Bashir had some stupid things to say after he was released from prison like the Australian and American press had altered stories about him and his beliefs.
Quote: FIREBRAND cleric Abu Bakar Bashir has been greeted by a sea of supporters punching fists in the air and screaming "Allah hu Akbar", or God is Great, as he arrived home to his Java boarding school.
After a brief stop to bathe his feet and pray, Bashir immediately launched into a brief sermon, telling thousands of students and onlookers seated in a dusty courtyard before him that Australian Prime Minister John Howard should "convert to Islam".
I haven't heard any media reports about what John Howard has to say to this but it will be intresting if does say anything to it.
Zkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4749 posts, RR: 10 Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3330 times:
Quoting Zen100 (Reply 12): Indonesia is not a bankrupt country; it doesn't depend on your benevolence.
Kuwait gave the American's $500mn for Katrina. It doesn't tell it who it should free or lock up.
yes well it wasn't prepared to assist its own citizens because they had previously wanted independance. It has a bad track record of human rights abuse and extreme corruption..hence why Australia said where the money was to go. Indonesia requested aid... the only group in Indonesia that didn't want aid to go to Indonesia was the local supporters of Al Qaeda. Perhaps you really are an Al Qaeda supporter...or at the very least an Al Qaeda sympathiser..
wow!!! a whole $500mil from kuwait? thats what... 1-2 days worth of oil exports?? a drop in the bucket really... not to mention that the US spends billions in kuwait thru its military etc or that the US liberated Kuwait from Iraq in the 1st gulf war.
QANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5798 posts, RR: 42 Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3246 times:
not to fussed about those comments from Bashir, i'm more annoyed that he got out of jail early for his crimes and our govt is now pandering to Indonesia by changing our immigration laws. it's the first time i've smelt cracks in the govt for a while, hope the opposition can capitilise on the disunity instead of having it turned around on them.
a true friend is someone who sees the pain in your eyes, while everyone else believes the smile on your face.
Zkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4749 posts, RR: 10 Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3242 times:
Quoting Zen100 (Reply 18): Yes a bit like your treatment of the Aboringines. Like the pot calling the kettle black.
Well if you had bothered to notice insted of being ignorant the flag on my profile is that of New Zealand...not Australia. The indigenous people in New Zealand (The Maori's) have in all likelyhood the best treatment that an indigenous race of people have (in fact they get paid out billions of dollars worth some as compensation for some past wrongs but mostly to improve their quality of life which they didn't have previously and were heading for extinction).
Quoting Zen100 (Reply 18): A canny and effective avenue to silence dissenting opinion. It won't work with me sorry.
Well we have yet to hear you say that you don't support them or at least sympathise with them....
Quoting Zen100 (Reply 18): Australia, was in every way behind the East Timor violent movement against Indonesia. Now that East Timor is a basket case, you will have to deal with it yourselves.
East Timor was it's on country until Indonesia invaded it in the 1970's and all they have ever wanted was independance. The violence against Indonesia occured as a result of Indonesia renegging on its promise to leave East Timor alone if they voted for independance, after which the UN mandated that Australia and other countries secure East Timor.
What I was referring to in regards to the Tsunami was Aceh Province in Indonesia where about 100,000 people died (half of which most likely due to the slow response of the Indonesian Government!).
Quoting Zen100 (Reply 18): A realist would say, there is oil in Kuwait.
Yes there is oil in Kuwait... and you point is? Kuwaiti's would not get to do anything with their oil if the US hadn't liberated them from Iraq... Iraq would have stolen all the oil for itself and left Iraqis with nothing.
any further rebuttles?
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25 Zen100: I'm pretty disgusted at the level of western arrogrance and hypocrisry that is consistent in these threads. Link. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA05
26 QFA380: So we are not allowed to tell the Indonesians to lock up a known terrorist, but they are allowed to tell us that we should not have set free 40 West
27 Dtwclipper: Zen, is Xanax available in Qatar? Please look into it, Lithium Carbonate may also be an option as well. No one is being anti-Arab or anti-Muslim in y