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Fifa World Cup 1st Round - Review  
User currently offlineVH-KCT* From Australia, joined May 2001, 479 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1330 times:

Now that everybody's played a match, what are your thoughts and notable moments?

Most exciting match not involving my team
TRI/SWE: Everybody seemed to be predicting a Swedish whitewash before the match. Yet despite losing their keeper before the match and playing almost half the match with 10 men, they held on thanks in no small part to some great keeping by Hislop. Seeing Larsson so angry near the end made it all the more sweeter.

Most boring match
ENG/PAR was awfully boring AND there was that strange spider-like shadow all over the pitch, but for me POR/ANG was utterly mind numbing. If ever I needed a good reason to get off the couch and do something else, there it was.

Worst ref's decision
Red card and penalty for Spain: Err, he tugged his strip ONCE outside of the box, and didn't really touch him at all when they were inside the box.

Worst player
Ronaldo: Plodded around at the front not doing much. The one time he made a strike (which wasn't bad) it seemed like the Croatian defence had just decided that he obviously wasn't playing and they could ignore him. He appeared to be carrying 10kg too much, and had other things on his mind (doughnuts, probably).

Best goal
The last goal by the Spaniards. Great build-up and no selfish play. Which leads me to...

Emerging trend
Strikers in African teams make absurdly over-cooked shots from too far away that risk knocking those seated in the very back row of the stands out onto the concourse!


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User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

Most exciting match not involving my team
Australia-Japan. The Aussie comeback was terrific. Interesting to see all the England fans in London supporting Australia - probably the only sport that would happen in.

Most boring match
Gemany-Poland. Poland utterly bereft of attacking options and Germany very predictable with the exception of the excellent Ballack

Worst ref's decision
Sending off and penalty for Spain

Worst player
Michael Owen. Did he actually turn up for the Paraguay England match?

Best goal
Torsten Frings' screamer for Germany against Costa Rica was an awesome strike.

Emerging trend
Woeful refereeing by Latin American referees.



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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2550 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1306 times:
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I've noticed many African team players tend to hit the ball way too hard over the top post as well lol

User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3312 posts, RR: 40
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1300 times:

Quoting Sovietjet (Reply 2):

I enjoyed the Austrailian comeback to win 3-1 in the last 10 minutes. Also enjoyed Togo scoring for the first time ever. The African teams should shoot at every chance they get. Its always worth a try, especially with the new lighter balls (football, you dirty minded A.netters Smile) this year. Im glad to see the African teams in the World cup this year!



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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1291 times:

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Most exciting match not involving my team

The first game of the tournment between Germany and Costa Rica. The amount of goals scored made it entertaining.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Most boring match
ENG/PAR was awfully boring

I agree.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Worst ref's decision
Red card and penalty for Spain: Err, he tugged his strip ONCE outside of the box, and didn't really touch him at all when they were inside the box.

I agree with this to and the AUS-JAP game where the Australian GK was taken out.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Worst player

I don't know

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Best goal

Torsten Frings goal in the opening game and Tim Cahill's second goal in the game against Japan to win the game for Australia

Quoting Ryanb741 (Reply 1):
Emerging trend
Woeful refereeing by Latin American referees.

I agree


User currently offlineVH-KCT* From Australia, joined May 2001, 479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1276 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 3):
The African teams should shoot at every chance they get.

But if they stopped and had a look around, often they would have seen a passing option that would have created a better chance of a goal. Drogba made three attempts at a scissor-kick in about 10 minutes; if that's not showing off then I don't know what is!

Something else that I've noted - giant forwards!

Peter Crouch ENG 198cm - pre-cup performance was quite good
Josh Kennedy AUS 192cm - instrumental in Australia's comeback
Jan Koller CZE 202cm - scored a nice header before hamstring injury, bringing on
Vratislav Lokvenc CZE 196cm
Paulo Wanchope CRC 182 - Okay so he's not a giant, but he's incredibly gangly   

[Edited 2006-06-15 11:18:55]


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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1271 times:

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Most exciting match not involving my team

Definitely Australia-Japan. I thought it wasn't going to happen for them, but a fabulous comeback at the end had me jumping the air.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Most boring match

I only saw the highlights of England-Paraguay, so I can't honestly say that was the one - though people who saw it say it was. France - Switzerland was pretty dull.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Worst ref's decision

Spain penalty and red card. Insane decision.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Worst player

I suppose this is question of most disappointing player, really. That would have to be Brazil's (as opposed to Portugal's) Ronaldo. Reports today are that he ended up in a clinic complaining of dizziness last night. France '98 all over again?

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Best goal

With you on the 4th goal by Spain.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Emerging trend

Everyone taking shots from 30 yards with this new ball.



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1263 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 6):
Definitely Australia-Japan. I thought it wasn't going to happen for them, but a fabulous comeback at the end had me jumping the air.

And cursing that the Aussies won I hope  Wink

Quoting Banco (Reply 6):
Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Emerging trend

Everyone taking shots from 30 yards with this new ball.

So lets hope Gerrard gets a few more cracks at that sort of thing in games to come. He's one of the best around at that sort of thing with any sort of ball, so god knows what he could come up with this latest one given the opportunity.



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1259 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 7):
And cursing that the Aussies won I hope

Not at all. I wanted them to win. As Ryan says above, probably the only sport where this happens.



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 8):
As Ryan says above, probably the only sport where this happens.

Unless they ever get any good at it  Wink

Actually I didn't see the match as I was at work, but I heard the comeback was really rather good.


How about another category - Best Goal Celebration

Was it Togo that did that fantastic tribal dance? - far better than a Peter Crouch effort Big grin



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User currently offlineVH-KCT* From Australia, joined May 2001, 479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 9):
Was it Togo that did that fantastic tribal dance?

It looked a bit like they were nibbling at something with their beaks!  Smile We had only just scored our first-ever World Cup goal, so I was very happy for them.

What about the Ecuadorians and their shining the fingernails on the jacket?



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User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1202 times:

How many venues/stadia are being used in Germany for the World Cup? Where are they located?

David

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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3473 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

Quoting Tiger119 (Reply 11):
How many venues/stadia are being used in Germany for the World Cup? Where are they located?

Berlin (East)
Munich (South)
Cologne (West)
Leipzig (East)
Kaiserslautern (Ramstein military base is close)
Hamburg (North)
Stuttgart
Hannover (100km south of Hamburg)
Frankfurt
Gelsenkirchen (Ruhr area)
Dortmund (Ruhr area)

All stadiums are good. The biggest are Dortmund, Munich, Berlin.


User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3473 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1195 times:

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Most exciting match not involving my team

Argentina vs Cote d'Ivoire
Great match, great football...

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Most boring match

There were some, but I think Portugal - Angola

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Worst ref's decision

I didn't see the red card in the game Spain played. The worst decision I saw was the 1:0 for Japan. This was clearly against the rules.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Worst player

(Insert player from Poland here). Everybody bashes Ronaldo (me too), but I was especially disappointed from Poland, and this includes many players.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Best goal

This world cup has seen many great goals. The 4:2 of Germany was great. Another favourite is the 1:0 of Brazil.

Quoting VH-KCT* (Thread starter):
Emerging trend

Defense tends to become less important, or better said, playing in a more offensive way seems to be the way to go. Traditional defensive playing teams like Germany and Italy played attractive, beautiful football, while Brazil ironically seems to be more defensive.

I think this is a nice trend. As much as I admire Greece for their success in 2004, I do not want to see such football anymore...


User currently offlineBartiniMan From Australia, joined Jul 2001, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

Quoting Ryanb741 (Reply 1):
Gemany-Poland. Poland utterly bereft of attacking options and Germany very predictable with the exception of the excellent Ballack

Excellent Ballack?? Did you watch the game? Many German players outplayed Ballack on that night. Overrated superstar Ballack did nothing special. Chelsea must be thinking about their wasted money.

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 13):
(Insert player from Poland here). Everybody bashes Ronaldo (me too), but I was especially disappointed from Poland, and this includes many players.

No surprise a German saying it. Whats your grounds for thinking it? Is it because Polish players denied germany a goal for a whole 90 minutes even with 10 men?
Polish players the worst, pfft, Germany barely scraped through, BARELY. If you wanna know about worst players look at your own team. MegaSuperstars Germany had trouble finding the net for the whole game against 'crappy worst' polish players, even with overrated Ballack playing.

There thats my opinion.


User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3473 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1160 times:

Quoting BartiniMan (Reply 14):

Poland didn't even try to get a goal, not against us, not against Ecuador. The defense did ok against us, but this is not enough at a world cup.


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1159 times:

Quoting BartiniMan (Reply 14):
Excellent Ballack?? Did you watch the game? Many German players outplayed Ballack on that night. Overrated superstar Ballack did nothing special. Chelsea must be thinking about their wasted money.

Ballack effectively controlled the midfield for Germany, preventing Poland building attacks. For me he was Germany's best player even though he did nothing spectacular. He is a very intelligent footballer and controlled the pace of the midfield. If Germany had effective strikers they would have won the game by three clear goals



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User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

Quoting BartiniMan (Reply 14):
Polish players the worst, pfft, Germany barely scraped through, BARELY. If you wanna know about worst players look at your own team. MegaSuperstars Germany had trouble finding the net for the whole game against 'crappy worst' polish players, even with overrated Ballack playing

 Yeah sure

Did someone pee into your coffee this morning? Nobody claimed that Germany´s performance was brilliant but you just can´t deny that Poland´s offense has been horrific in this World Cup so far.


User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

Most exciting match not involving my team
The Germany - Costa Rica match was pretty exciting, given that Costa Rica exposed Germany's woeful defense. But I think the Australia - Japan match has to rank as most exciting for me so far.

Most boring match
England - Paraguay and France - Switzerland were completely lacking in any entertainment value.

Worst ref's decision
Ukrainian red card in the match against Spain. Terrible piece of officiating.

Worst player
Ronaldo looked piss poor and fat. He needs to cut down on his pork life and get some exercise.

Best goal
England's first goal against Trinidad & Tobago. It had everything - vision, idea, pin-point passing, unselfish lay-off, killer final lofted ball in, and Crouchaldinho towering up to nod it in. Awesome goal. And Gerrard's was quite sublime too.

Emerging trend
Bad refereeing. See the other thread that discusses that. Some of the decisions - obvious, unmissable decisions - have been atrocious.

[Edited 2006-06-16 18:31:04]

User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4291 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1127 times:

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 18):
England's first goal against Trinidad & Tobago. It had everything - vision, idea, pin-point passing, unselfish lay-off, killer final lofted ball in, and Crouchaldinho towering up to nod it in. Awesome goal. And Gerrard's was quite sublime too.

Spain's last goal was the best, until Argentina's 2nd today.



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User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 19):
Spain's last goal was the best, until Argentina's 2nd today.

It certainly was good, but I don't think it was the best. The reason being that the entire move started with the ball luckily falling to the feet of a Spanish player when he tried to go through a couple of defenders. He lost control and he got lucky. If he'd actually attempted the maneuvre and succeeded, then it would get best goal. But because of that luck/loss of control factor, Crouchaldinho's goal gets it for me.


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4291 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1113 times:

Well when you see the highlights today of the 2nd goal or ARG, you know I was right on that account.


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User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4291 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

But CDI just scored a great goal....


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User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1105 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 21):
when you see the highlights today of the 2nd goal or ARG, you know I was right on that account.



Quoting Derico (Reply 22):
But CDI just scored a great goal....

Thank God for TiVo, eh?...


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1086 times:

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 12):
Berlin (East)
Munich (South)
Cologne (West)
Leipzig (East)
Kaiserslautern (Ramstein military base is close)
Hamburg (North)
Stuttgart
Hannover (100km south of Hamburg)
Frankfurt
Gelsenkirchen (Ruhr area)
Dortmund (Ruhr area)

You forgot one: Nürnberg (in Bavaria in the south)


25 Post contains images Sabena332 : Here is a map for a better overview: Patrick
26 Post contains images David L : ... and hair-pulling.
27 MartinairYYZ : Most exciting match not involving my team CIV/ARG and CIV/HOL ... Ivory Coast really deserves to go through, and both the matches were lucky wins that
28 LTBEWR : Stangest thing: The best player in a match gets a modest trophy from the makers of Bud beer (a USA company and official beer sponsor on the field of t
29 Post contains links ZRH : For an airliners.net member an interesting question: which airport for which stadium? Hamburg: HAM Berlin: TXL, SXF, THF Hannover: HAJ Leipzig: LEJ Do
30 Banco : To be fair, I think three minutes into a match is just a shade early to talk about a goal being "badly needed"....
31 Post contains images David L : Good point.
32 Ezeiza : I'll vote for Brazil-Croatia. Portugal - Angola .... it started great but man that was boring! No booking to the Ghanian player that fouled Italy's I
33 Post contains images Tiger119 : - Do teams in the pools play in the same stadium throughout pool play? Do the teams stay fairly close to those statiums? - Excellent map, I just wish
34 TheSonntag : No, in fact the contrary is the case. For example, the Netherlands play in Leipzig, Stuttgart and Frankfurt. Of course, travelling in Germany is very
35 Tiger119 : - Never having been in Germany, are the travel times fairly short? What kind of distances do they have to travel (in miles)? David
36 TheSonntag : Germany is 1100km long (I think that are around 700miles) and 700km broad (450miles). Our Autobahn system is one of the best in the world, with 12000
37 Tiger119 : - I would love to go there sometime to study the transportation system there. Seems really good. David
38 Post contains images Aleksandar : It's a bit too early to review the first round, but I can say that my team did exactly what everybody here expected of them. . Kind of, because nobody
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