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What Is St Louis, MO Like?  
User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

I'll be going to St Louis in a few weeks for a job interview and was told I would have a day and a half to myself to explore the city and maybe even take a look at some places where I could live initially.

So what's the city like? Is there lot's to do (concerts, parks, etc)?

What about living? There seem to me lots of old buildings being renovated into lofts, which sounds enticing.

Any input from the locals would be appreciated. Thanks!

Stefano  wave 

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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1657 times:

Saint Louis has experienced the typical Midwestern rust-belt city life cycle... mass exodus out of the core city to the suburbs in the 50s-70s, loss of manufacturing jobs and headquarters, inter-city decline. However, like other cities in a similar situation, the city is enjoying a renaissance of sorts. Downtown is becoming attractive again... residential development is exploding and retail is slowly following. The must-see sights for a short visit are the Mississippi Riverfront and Gateway Arch, the Central West End w/its gaslights and cobblestone streets (very European), Forest Park... site of 1904 World's Fair and Olympics. If you had longer, you could explore the University City and Soulard neighborhoods, take a tour of Anheuser-Busch, and catch a baseball game at the new Busch Stadium. The Metrolink light rail system is very convenient to get from the aiport, through the Central West End, and into downtown. The Zoo and Science Center are also very well-regarded.


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User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4287 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

I thoroughly enjoyed St. Louis while living there. Forest Park is beautiful, plenty to do in the Central West End, Soulard, and the Delmar Loop. Dogtown has some nice restaurants. The museums are fun and free. Lots of sports teams which have very rabid fans. Casinos (Ameristar...damn them! Silly ), a very mediocre ski area, nice hills, beautiful scenery out in West County and toward Defiance on Highway 94. Union Station is nice for hanging out with your buddies, as is Laclede's Landing on the river. Arcelia's on Park is the only decent Mexican food restaurant, though  Wink If you are looking at hip areas to live, Central West End and Soulard were it two years ago.

Texan



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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

Ok, thanks for the info. I'll try and see as much as possible during my stay. Thanks also for the residential info, much appreciated.

What's the cost of living like, ie. avg 1b/1b apt or loft rent?

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4432 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1650 times:
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Be careful not to get lost down in E. St. Louis or Washington Park if you venture across the river.  Wink

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Quoting TWFirst (Reply 1):
The Metrolink light rail system is very convenient to get from the aiport

Very, very easy to use. Can't get lost at all.

Quoting TWFirst (Reply 1):
Science Center are also very well-regarded.

SEA has a better one than STL.

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 4):
Be careful not to get lost down in E. St. Louis or Washington Park if you venture across the river.

 checkmark  GHETTOVILLE!!!!!!!

It gets very, very humid around this time of year....expecially during the July-Aug months.



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User currently offlineBep0181 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

I lived there for 6 years....besides the horrific weather (hot, humid, muggy) it is a great place to visit and possibly live. Texan is right on the mark with all of his suggestions too. Check out the Zoo. It is free and they have done a lot of work to expand it.

http://www.stlzoo.org



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User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1622 times:

I believe there is a Six Flags also...


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User currently offlineCsavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1620 times:

If you are into plants the best Botanical Garden in North America is in St. Louis, forgot the name but it is a part of Washington University.

Also it is worth a drive to E. St. Louis to see Cahokia mounds, (Ancient AMerican Indian ruins) but don't get lost as others have already said.



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User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4287 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

As far as places not to live, North City is a very poor, high crime area. East of Skinker, north of Delmar, north of the Central West End, down toward Lindell Avenue all the way toward downtown. East St. Louis and Cahokia also are not good areas to live.

University City is nice, as is Clayton, but both are on the more expensive end. Some nice new lofts are being built down by Union Station as well.

Oh, and try Fitz's on Delmar for food, as well as Blueberry Hill, Chuck Berry's restaurant Wink

Texan



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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1577 times:

And don't forget.... TED DREWES!!! (Frozen Custard)


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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1572 times:

After you check out the Zoo, the Brewery, and possibly a game at the new Busch Stadium...jump on I-70 West and go see Kansas City. You'll like it better.  duck 

User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1569 times:

Saint Louis, the Scranton-Wilkes-Barre of the midwest.


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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 11):
After you check out the Zoo, the Brewery, and possibly a game at the new Busch Stadium...jump on I-70 West and go see Kansas City. You'll like it better

Of course... what's not to like? There's nothing there.

 duck 



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 12):
Saint Louis, the Scranton-Wilkes-Barre of the midwest.



User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17822 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (8 years 6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

It's a bit like Houston minus the fun/nice parts and ocean breeze. BTW I made the mistake of "checking out" downtown Saint Louis once and let me save you the time....there's nothing there.


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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

Thanks for all the comments. Well, I guess comparing to where I've lived before it doesn't sound so bad. I lived 2.5 yrs in South Florida and the weather is terrible and then I lived 3.5 yrs in Tallahassee so any place with over a quarter million people living in it is much, much better.

Stefano  wave 


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6371 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 11):
After you check out the Zoo, the Brewery, and possibly a game at the new Busch Stadium...jump on I-70 West and go see Kansas City. You'll like it better.

Agreed! I live just west of Kansas City...it's a great place. However, St. Louis...not so much. The Arch is nice...and few other things are neat...but mostly, it is a crappy, crappy city in an even crappier state!


User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

Quoting SW733 (Reply 17):
but mostly, it is a crappy, crappy city in an even crappier state!

Thanks for the very informative travel tidbit, Mr. Frommer..  sarcastic 


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6371 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 18):
Thanks for the very informative travel tidbit, Mr. Frommer..

You're welcome...shame we can state our own personal opinions, isn't it?


User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3539 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1434 times:

A friend of mine goes to SLU (Saint Louis University) and absolutely loves the city...could never figure out why!

If you're Catholic, check out the university (Jesuit Institution) and go to mass there or something.



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User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4287 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

Quoting Planespotting (Reply 20):
A friend of mine goes to SLU (Saint Louis University) and absolutely loves the city...could never figure out why!

If you're Catholic, check out the university (Jesuit Institution) and go to mass there or something.

Graduated from SLU. First year was horrible because I didn't have a car nor did I know where anything was. But there is so much culture there and there is truly a lot to do. You just have to explore a little  Smile

Texan



"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
User currently offlinePlanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3539 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

Quoting Texan (Reply 21):
Graduated from SLU. First year was horrible because I didn't have a car nor did I know where anything was. But there is so much culture there and there is truly a lot to do. You just have to explore a little

when did you graduate? A friend of mine (who graduated in '05) also had a shitty freshman year, but then ended up really enjoying his time there. He was a WN intern with me in the fall of '04...



Do you like movies about gladiators?
User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1399 times:

Quoting Csavel (Reply 8):
Also it is worth a drive to E. St. Louis to see Cahokia mounds

Please....tell me you are KIDDING!!! E. St. Louis is a national disaster area!!! And should be declared as such!

Quoting Texan (Reply 9):
East St. Louis and Cahokia also are not good areas to live.

I second that!  checkmark  Anywhere in Madison County isnt a good place at all! High HIGH crime area...lack of law enforcement too!

Quoting Csavel (Reply 8):
but don't get lost as others have already said.

Some people have no idea how EASY it is to get lost once you cross the bi-state bridges that connect to Madison County. Its a nightmare! Not to mention: the lack of street signs.



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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1389 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 23):
I second that! Anywhere in Madison County isnt a good place at all! High HIGH crime area...lack of law enforcement too!

E. St. Louis and Cahokia are in St. Clair county, not Madison. Madison County has some VERY nice suburbs (including Edwardsville, Glen Carbon, Collinsville, etc.).



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25 Stlgph : and coming from someone living in the middle of a cornfield and has the Nambia flag displayed, we'll take that into high consideration let me tell yo
26 TWFirst : More than the other cities you list, yes..... more than the Twin Cities... definitely not. Minneapolis/St. Paul has more theaters per capita than NYC
27 Stlgph : A majority of the Minneapolis theaters have gone the wayside and haven't played a legit Broadway series in years...i.e. the State. Plus if you general
28 AirframeAS : My mistake, apologies... I thought it was in the same county. See above. But E. STL is a DUMP, no question.
29 SW733 : First, I live in the middle of a cornfield? Interesting, I didn't know suburban Kansas City was a cornfield, good to know. Second, what does my being
30 SW733 : Not Chicago?
31 Post contains images TWFirst : What crack are you on? AS IF you track what broadway shows play STL before MSP. You need to stick to what you know... weed and toated ravioli. Compar
32 TWFirst : OH... one more thing... you win on the amusement park.. Six Flags is better than Valleyfair... of course Valleyfair has a waterpark, and the country's
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