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User currently offlineKLMA330 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 697 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2096 times:

Hey guys,
Just wondering if any Toronto guys here enjoy Pride, or make a trek downtown for the parade.. straight or not, makes no difference.. after all, it's a festival of love! lol

Anyway, it's become huge, almost 2 million people last year. Huge money maker for the city of Toronto. It can be a little invasive for me, as I live on the strip of "the village", but fun non the less. Going to make my annual pilgrimate to the Sunday night for Peter Rohaufer.

At any rate, if you do attend pride in Toronto, or anywhere else this summer, play safe, and have a Blast!

Billy  Smile

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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

It is a problem with "Pride". We have a "Pride" week here also. And that do not make homosexuals more accepted at all. It makes them just as different as most of us see them. Or not normal as i call it.

http://www.stockholmpride.org/


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 1):
not make homosexuals more accepted at all. It makes them just as different as most of us see them. Or not normal as i call it.

I shouldn't laugh at that! Big grin



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User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3023 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2038 times:
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Quoting KLMA330 (Thread starter):
It can be a little invasive for me, as I live on the strip of "the village"

You too, at least i know im not alone! 1 week getting to work though that morrass of people is going to be fun to say the least. I also live in "the village", right at the Statue, and only for reasons of commuting (to the "ugliest office building in Toronto" some people just don't like green trim i guess!).



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User currently offlineJAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3526 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

Definetly not going to a gay pride parade if I'm straight. I don't see any point whatsoever in that. It's like going to an AA meeting when you haven't drank in 20 years.

Personally I don't like the idea. Even though I don't care if you are gay/lesbian its bad for them because it propetuates the stereotype the gays are feminine and wear revealing clothes.

[Edited 2006-06-17 21:53:47]


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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2016 times:

I will definatly not be attending any of the festivities. I do however hate this week for the traffic that it causes, getting a big 'ol work dump truck from Richmond Hill down to the Lakeshore during pride week is always a treat. Oh well, I'll avoid the busy areas as best I can.

User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 1):
It is a problem with "Pride". We have a "Pride" week here also. And that do not make homosexuals more accepted at all. It makes them just as different as most of us see them. Or not normal as i call it.

"Not normal"? Thanks, mate.

Cheers
Apparently not so normal Mats.



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User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 4):
Definetly not going to a gay pride parade if I'm straight. I don't see any point whatsoever in that. It's like going to an AA meeting when you haven't drank in 20 years.

Do you even know how many straight people go to Pride?

Even though I've never been, I know *tons* of people, who are straight, who go to pride. From what people tell me, it's one of the best parties Toronto has yearly.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 4):
Personally I don't like the idea. Even though I don't care if you are gay/lesbian its bad for them because it propetuates the stereotype the gays are feminine and wear revealing clothes.

Ohhh my young friend, you have a lot to learn.

The media FOCUSES on that portion of the Pride Week fesitivites simply because it's the most news-worthy part of the week.

Quoting Doona (Reply 6):
"Not normal"? Thanks, mate.

Cheers
Apparently not so normal Mats.

Ignore their ignorance. LOL

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 5):
I do however hate this week for the traffic that it causes, getting a big 'ol work dump truck from Richmond Hill down to the Lakeshore during pride week is always a treat.

Every parade has it's drawbacks, for sure.... the traffic mess is just a nightmare..

What *I* find ludicrous, is the 'seasonally' shut-down of the Don Valley Parkway for all those charity runs..

can't they do all the runs in one day? Versus shutting it down multiple days?

The thing is, every group has it's parade.. The St. Patricks Day parade really sticks out...

If people are 'against' the parade simply because it causes traffic woes, etc.. then we need to ban ALL parade's, and all major public gatherings in Toronto, such as the big mass that the Pope gave a few years ago..

Gotta be fair to all.

1011yyz



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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 7):

Every parade has it's drawbacks, for sure.... the traffic mess is just a nightmare..

What *I* find ludicrous, is the 'seasonally' shut-down of the Don Valley Parkway for all those charity runs..

can't they do all the runs in one day? Versus shutting it down multiple days?

The thing is, every group has it's parade.. The St. Patricks Day parade really sticks out...

If people are 'against' the parade simply because it causes traffic woes, etc.. then we need to ban ALL parade's, and all major public gatherings in Toronto, such as the big mass that the Pope gave a few years ago..

Gotta be fair to all.

I agree, I'm not a fan of the DVP shutdowns either, that's the main route from Richmond Hill down to the lake, Yonge takes forever, same with Bathurst, Bayview, Leslie, Dufferin and the rest. I would ban any parade that shuts down a major artery into and out of the city, it's not just the Gay Pride parade/week, it's all of those runs, although I do support the Cancer and Heart and Stroke runs, but they could maybe find a better place for them.

I don't care if they shut down Gay Pride, Cancer runs, Heart & Stroke runs, just shut them all down, people give money to the cause, no one gives money to people because they're going to walk for a few hours. Although I do admit that I was on hand when the Pope came.

But still, navagating this city is bad enough, and nothing against the Gay Pride week, but could we maybe just make it a day so that traffic is a little easier, same with Carabana.


User currently offlineTootallsd From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 559 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1978 times:
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Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 4):
Personally I don't like the idea. Even though I don't care if you are gay/lesbian its bad for them because it propetuates the stereotype the gays are feminine and wear revealing clothes.

You should think about going to one -- your stereotype is horribly out of date. You need some educating. And BTW, lots of straight people go.


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1975 times:

Is this just like the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras?

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26487 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days ago) and read 1971 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 1):

Man, what is with you. You normally seem like such an open minded, accepting person, yet you are a complete and total homophobe

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 10):
Is this just like the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras?

Probably, just not at Mardi Gras time

Quoting Tootallsd (Reply 9):
And BTW, lots of straight people go.

Including my girlfriend and me who will be out there this weekend.



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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
Man, what is with you. You normally seem like such an open minded, accepting person, yet you are a complete and total homophobe

It is strange. You think it is something wrong with me because i do not think homosexuality is normal. This is one of the questions that only have one PC answer. ACCEPT! But no no no, i will never accept it.  Angry


User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3770 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1947 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 12):
It is strange. You think it is something wrong with me because i do not think homosexuality is normal. This is one of the questions that only have one PC answer. ACCEPT! But no no no, i will never accept it.

I think there is something wrong with you, and a whole lot of other people too. It is wrong not to "accept" human beings, just because they happen to be gay.

Queers
Mats



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User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 8):
I agree, I'm not a fan of the DVP shutdowns either, that's the main route from Richmond Hill down to the lake, Yonge takes forever, same with Bathurst, Bayview, Leslie, Dufferin and the rest. I would ban any parade that shuts down a major artery into and out of the city, it's not just the Gay Pride parade/week, it's all of those runs, although I do support the Cancer and Heart and Stroke runs, but they could maybe find a better place for them.

You live in Richmond Hill for part of the year, and Windsor for another part, how often are you so badly affected by these woes? Pride Week does NOT shut down traffic for a week. It's just a day, possibly two....same with Caribana (or whatever they're calling it this year).

What about the Santa Claus parade? Should we cancel that?

Toronto has TONS of alternate routes in and out of the city, and any time roads are going to be closed for an event like the Molson Indy, Pride Week, etc., the City gives folks LOTS of notice.

I'm no tree hugger by any stretch of the imagination, but there are also several very effective ways of getting anywhere in Toronto without using your car....subway, GO Bus/Train, bike paths etc.

That being said, Neil, as a proud 416er who once spent some time in Richmond Hill himself (where driving in traffic is FAR more annoying than in 416), I'll let you in a little secret:

Bayview south to Lawrence.
West on Lawrence to Mount Pleasant (2 lights).
South on Mount Pleasant which becomes Jarvis and goes to the lake.

If you ever get stuck on MP, there are plenty of side streets to get you where you want to go toute-suite. MP has never failed me in either direction.

G


User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 3023 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1914 times:
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Quoting Canuckpaxguy (Reply 14):

Toronto has TONS of alternate routes in and out of the city, and any time roads are going to be closed for an event like the Molson Indy, Pride Week, etc., the City gives folks LOTS of notice.

I'm no tree hugger by any stretch of the imagination, but there are also several very effective ways of getting anywhere in Toronto without using your car....subway, GO Bus/Train, bike paths etc.

While it is true Toronto has lots of alternate routes, there are some events that should use these alternate routes! the DVP and Gardiner are not athletics facilities. Have the "run for (insert name here)" on other routes like Bayview or Lakeshore. Routes where they don't cut the only (yes ONLY) major high capacity links into the city core!

Pride week, on the other hand, besides the people living in the area of Chruch, has almost no effect on traffic for most of it. Yonge, like it or not, is NOT a commuter route that anyone with a brain uses. Lights every 30' and on street parking, tons of entrances and exits, more pedestrians... Bayview, Jarvis/Mt Pleasant, University/Avenue and Bathurst are all much better routes, at least up to the 401.



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User currently offlineKLMA330 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 697 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting NorthStarDC4M (Reply 15):
Pride week, on the other hand, besides the people living in the area of Chruch, has almost no effect on traffic for most of it. Yonge, like it or not, is NOT a commuter route that anyone with a brain uses. Lights every 30' and on street parking, tons of entrances and exits, more pedestrians... Bayview, Jarvis/Mt Pleasant, University/Avenue and Bathurst are all much better routes, at least up to the 401.

Very true, and as the major money maker of the year for the city, basically suck it up and deal with it. Already a walk up Church earlier on, and the foreign liscence plates are here... let the games begin!  Wink


User currently offlineYUL2010 From Canada, joined Jun 2003, 320 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Yup I'll be there, flying to YYZ for the weekend to meet up with some friends. Hit me up if anyone wants to hang out!
Happy Pride!
YUL2010



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26487 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 12):
You think it is something wrong with me because i do not think homosexuality is normal. This is one of the questions that only have one PC answer. ACCEPT! But no no no, i will never accept it.

Why? What do gay people do to you? Further, homosexuality is not only normal for humans, it is normal in the entire animal kingdom



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User currently offlineFlyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 20 hours ago) and read 1877 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
it is normal in the entire animal kingdom

Tell me about it... When I was living in Israel (Kibbutz Palmahim) I had to go on Lesbian Cow Watch everyday @ 16:00h... to see which cows were humping each other so they would get inseminated next morning...

I went to the YYZ pride in 1993 whilst studying in Montreal.. That was a great party. I would recommend to anyone, whichever gender or species  Smile

Alex


User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 1 hour ago) and read 1844 times:

Quoting Flyingbabydoc (Reply 19):
Further, homosexuality is not only normal for humans, it is normal in the entire animal kingdom

It is around 1-2 % of the population who is REAL GAY. And animals would not be more than that. So if 98-99 % is NOT REAL GAY, so is it easy to find out that it is more normal to be hetrosexual. It is Ok for you or others to be gay but do not force me to accept it, pls! biting 


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 20):
It is around 1-2 % of the population who is REAL GAY. And animals would not be more than that. So if 98-99 % is NOT REAL GAY, so is it easy to find out that it is more normal to be hetrosexual. It is Ok for you or others to be gay but do not force me to accept it, pls!

Hey Bo. Nobody is "forcing it" on you. Maybe you are just taking such an angry stand because you are trying to cover up some feelings? Maybe you want to be the main guy on the lead float of the parade?  scratchchin 


User currently offlineFlyingbabydoc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1829 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 20):
It is Ok for you or others to be gay but do not force me to accept it, pls!

Please don't quote me wrong here. I am not gay, as you can clearly see in my profile... however, many friends of ours are, and I see absolutely no problem in them being gay - they are always fun to be around and you can always trust their good taste!

Alex


User currently offlineLnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1608 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 20):
It is around 1-2 % of the population who is REAL GAY. And animals would not be more than that. So if 98-99 % is NOT REAL GAY, so is it easy to find out that it is more normal to be hetrosexual. It is Ok for you or others to be gay but do not force me to accept it, pls!

First off, where do you get your statistics?? That's the first time I've *ever* heard about that..

The old statistics is around 10-12% of the population classify themselves as homosexual, and I'd be willing to bet that that # is higher today -- those statistics were taken back in the days when homosexuality was classified as a sin by 'most' of the population, and admitting it in public would be paramount to public suicide...

There is nothing wrong with you believing that being gay is wrong. What is wrong, is treating people differently because of it..

I've got 2 gay cousins, and I've never thought any differently of them. You would never know that 1 of them is gay, apart from the fact that he admits it openly..

You seem to have a lot of anger towards homosexuals, and that is what I tihnk most people here are arguing with you about.... Again, there's nothing wrong with having an opinion, but it's how you deal with your beliefs..

As for your comments about animals being even 'less' gay than humans, I'd bet if you went to your local veterinarian, and asked them, they'll tell you that MOST animals play around with both sexes when it comes to sexual activity.

Your statements are truly wrong and I will at some point, attempt to prove it with numbers before this thread is done.

1011yyz

[Edited 2006-06-20 15:03:38]


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User currently offlineBofredrik From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

Quoting Flyingbabydoc (Reply 22):
many friends of ours are, and I see absolutely no problem in them being gay - they are always fun to be around and you can always trust their good taste!

My good! It is like saying that black people is so and so, jews are so and so etc. A gay person can be good or bad, like the rest of us. Even gays can have bad taste. And some of them even do not like Judy Garland...!!!

[Edited 2006-06-20 16:47:00]

25 Bofredrik : I am talking about people who is ONLY homosexual and NOT bisexual in any way. Statistics, yes... If you go to a gay & lesbian pro organisation will y
26 KROC : Hey Bo. What was the guys name that turned you down and caused you to be so bitter against gays?
27 Bofredrik : I was raped by a old homosexual man when i was a young boy. Do you think that is funny?
28 KROC : No, I don't think thats funny. However, I think its completely wacked that you are basing your view of gay people off of one who did you wrong? Do yo
29 Lnglive1011yyz : No one would think that's funny. So you base your opinions upon the fact that one HUMAN BEING was screwed in the head? Your analogy is almost like sa
30 Post contains images Deltaflyertoo : Those statistics are wrong. The correct number is around 10% and there are new studies on the way to suggest it goes as high as 12%. If you don't beli
31 Bofredrik : Ofcourse not. I just gave a answer to a question.
32 Bofredrik : You can not find ANY serious study that tell us that 10 % of the population is 100 % gay, and will never in their life have sex with other than the s
33 Deltaflyertoo : Ten Percent is the standard # issued by the Kinsey study and since replicated by universities around the world. Yes this number can be a theoretical o
34 Bofredrik : USA Today, in its April 15, 1993 issue published the following statistics from a Planned Parenthood/Alan Guttmacher Institute study: - Only 2.3% of ma
35 Lnglive1011yyz : Oh my.. You live in a sheltered world. The Western World has absolutely ZERO bearing on numbers of gay people!!!! Your thinking is completely flawed,
36 Deltaflyertoo : Who's to say Planned Parenthood or Bruce Voeller are experts? They have no more credibility if more than Kinsey. But for the sake of your argument. Fi
37 N1120A : I think Kinsey's study was pretty serious
38 Bofredrik : Approximately 25% of the 5300 individuals Kinsey used were prison inmates, who by the nature of their confinement, couldn't have heterosexual interco
39 Post contains images Bofredrik : OK, it is up to you. Ps. Kinsey also admitted using "several hundred male prostitutes" in his sample. If all were included, this alone could throw of
40 JER757 : Geez, you like statistics don't you? Who cares if its 10% or 0.1%? I don't particularly care whether someone has sex with males or females. Its up to
41 Post contains images Bofredrik : Pride etc is a typical example that gay people keep it for themself...
42 Post contains images JER757 : Ahh I see, well I'll let all them World Cup supporters marching and singing through the streets at night to keep it to themselves. Ooh, good luck aga
43 Post contains images KLMA330 : If the whole World Cup thing isn't a way for the machismos of the world to show their Pride, I don't know what is... To each their own, just don't sp
44 Post contains images Bofredrik : Do not be to sure. We have 11 real men...
45 N1120A : Oh do they? Having attended Toronto Pride this past weekend I will tell you that it wasn't just gay people in the parade. The Mayor of Toronto along
46 Post contains images HUYguy : I thought about going to EuroPride in London, I think that's July 1st, then I realised I had no-one to go with . Personally, I've always believed the
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