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A.C.L.U. Investigates Hairstyle Requirement  
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 944 times:

I'm not sure I agree that private companies can't require their employees to keep their hair looking a certain way.

I do think that it's a bit odd that the American Civil Liberties Union is interested in such a requirement. Aren't there better uses for its resources?

See:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060617/...zwcF;_ylu=X3oDMTA0cDJlYmhvBHNlYwM-

[Edited 2006-06-18 03:27:51]

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User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 936 times:

If something seems trivial or insignificant, you can rest assured the American Criminal Liberties Union will stand up against The Man. The ACLU is where you go if you have a law degree and can't get a real job.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 929 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 1):
If something seems trivial or insignificant, you can rest assured the American Criminal Liberties Union will stand up against The Man.

I personally believe that too much attention devoted to this kind of thing by the courts emphasizes the trivial over the important. And I think that it tends to make employee grievances less significant, on the theory that employees may simply be crying wolf or looking for a quick buck.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 929 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 1):
If something seems trivial or insignificant, you can rest assured the American Criminal Liberties Union will stand up against The Man.

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The snivelers dream, the cry babies savior, the ACLU . . . what a crock of shit.

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
I'm not sure I agree that private companies can't require their employees to keep their hair looking a certain way.

They can certainly set standards for safety particularly . . .

And if done appropriate, can be a condition for employment. Take the military, there are certainly standards for hair styles there. Don't see the ACLU shitting on themselves to get at the DoD do you . . . it's a condition of employment. Fat lot of chance the ACLU would have with the military anyway . . .


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 897 times:

What next?....will they go after the NY Yankees and the Cincinatti Reds for having no facial hair policies?

At the end of the day Six Flags is a private company and they can implement whatever the hell hair policy they want.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 863 times:

All the complaining about the ACLU, yet isn't 'liberty and justice for all' part of the Pledge of Allegience?

The ACLU supported US citizens persecuted by their own government because they were communist or socialist. It's helped stop attacks on the rights of trade unions to meet.

It supports the separation of Church and State, as outlined in the Constitution. It supports freedom of speech, as outlined in the Constitution. It supports abortion and contraception, both of which are supported by the majority of Americans, both of which are fully legal. It supports the rights of homosexuals, again supported by the majority of Americans and the law.

The ACLU played a part in Brown vs. Board of Education of Topeka, which essentially led to the end of segregation in schools. It was involved with Roe vs. Wade and Doe vs. Bolton.

It's fought the teaching of creationism as a scientific alternative to evolution. It's fought to bar the NSA from eavesdropping and data mining - it helps stop your government from spying on you, illegally, for whatever reason.

So I don't quite understand all this bitching about the ACLU. Everything it does is supported by the Constitution, a Constituion the right wing brings up time and time again regarding guns, but seldom brings up at other points.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
At the end of the day Six Flags is a private company and they can implement whatever the hell hair policy they want.

Being a private company doesn't exempt it from the law.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 839 times:

777236ER, you make some good points but we unfortunately see the ACLU over here as a bunch of bed wetting booger eating liberals who are constantly tilting windmills. Silly cases like this one do nothing to change that opinion.

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 5):
Being a private company doesn't exempt it from the law.

I say they can implement any hair policy they want as long as they apply it fairly. If they cross the line and get into discrimination and pick on just one racial group then perhaps something should be done if the policy is not applied fairy. Show me a federal or state law that says a company can't dictate hair length. You can't, it doesn't exist so there is law they are trying to exempt themselves from.

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 1):
The ACLU is where you go if you have a law degree and can't get a real job.

Same goes for college teaching when you have an Economics degree.  Wink



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 820 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
They can certainly set standards for safety particularly . . .

Any employer can set the standard.The ACLU,as usual,are full of it.Those Communists, for what they are,which the media never tells you about.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
What next?....will they go after the NY Yankees and the Cincinatti Reds for having no facial hair policies?

 laughing 

Give it time.I'm surprised they(ACLU) didn't move on the NBA officials for off court dress policies.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 817 times:



Quoting IAH777 (Reply 1):
American Criminal Liberties Union

Without watchdog groups like the ACLU, the Bill of Rights would long ago have been a memory. Do they go to far a lot of times? Yes. In this case, I don't think there's an issue. But I'll take putting up with them sometimes embarrassing themselves, for the times that real issues arise that can threaten rights.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 6 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 768 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 8):
they go to far a lot of times? Yes. In this case, I don't think there's an issue.

That's my point. The ACLU is making itself look foolish by investigating this kind of case, in my view.


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