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Report: Hundreds Of WMDs Found In Iraq  
User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4124 times:
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Although, most of you will pu-pu this, but it appears that hundreds of WMD's have been uncovered in yet-to-be made oublic report. Let the flamewar begin.
WASHINGTON — The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.

"We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4114 times:

Hmmm.

This will be an interesting thread . . .

Not exactly what I call vendication . . . but I'm glad thy were found before some insurgent assmonkey could use them against us or the coalition forces.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4099 times:

It will certainly be interesting to see what the White House has to say. The DoD isn't speaking too highly of it:

Offering the official administration response to FOX News, a senior Defense Department official pointed out that the chemical weapons were not in useable conditions.

"This does not reflect a capacity that was built up after 1991," the official said, adding the munitions "are not the WMDs this country and the rest of the world believed Iraq had, and not the WMDs for which this country went to war."



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4099 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Thread starter):
Although, most of you will pu-pu this, but it appears that hundreds of WMD's have been uncovered in yet-to-be made oublic report. Let the flamewar begin.
WASHINGTON — The United States has found 500 chemical weapons in Iraq since 2003, and more weapons of mass destruction are likely to be uncovered, two Republican lawmakers said Wednesday.

"We have found weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, chemical weapons," Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said in a quickly called press conference late Wednesday afternoon.

I'm sorry, Jetjack, but I don't take ANYTHING Rick Santorum says seriously. Remember, he's trying desperately to get re-elected in a state that hates his guts. His opponent has a twenty-point lead on him in the latest poll.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13116 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4061 times:

There is a good chance that some residue of materials related to WMD's may have been found, from long destoryed or shut down facilities per direction of Saddam or the UN inspectors. One problem is that after the fall of Saddam, people all over Iraq took everything down to the soil or concrete floors to sell for scrap to make money on and in part as revenge upon Saddam. That probably took away some evidence that may have supported in a very limited way that WMD's existed up to 2003.

User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21637 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4051 times:

Apparently, these are all weapons dating back before 1991. There's no question that Saddam at one point had WMDs - we know he used them, and we also know that we gave them to him. The question is whether he was a serious threat to anyone in 2003. It's unclear from the report what kind of shape these weapons are in, though it does use the word "degraded" - this is hardly proof that Iraq was a threat.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
I'm glad thy were found before some insurgent assmonkey could use them against us or the coalition forces.

This is certainly true. I do have to wonder, however, why people keep bringing WMDs up - I thought they were no longer the real reason for the war.

-Mir



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User currently offlineYVRtoYYZ From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 660 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4051 times:

Source: FOX News

Need I say more?


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4031 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 5):
I thought they were no longer the real reason for the war.

Yeah, me too. I thought this week's excuse was we are in Iraq to fight the war on terror. Or did I miss the latest memo?

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 3):
I'm sorry, Jetjack, but I don't take ANYTHING Rick Santorum says seriously.

Rick Santorum, now there's a credible source.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4026 times:

Quoting YVRtoYYZ (Reply 6):
Source: FOX News

Need I say more?

Yeah, you really do. Since they include the actual document in the report.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/Iraq_WMD_Declassified.pdf

Unless you think FOX now writes House of Representatives reports...


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4026 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Not exactly what I call vendication

Agreed, but I thought it was still worth mentioning, and to see the reaction from those who claimed that Iraq had no WMD's. If Saddam was lying about these, then what else was he lying about?

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 3):
Remember, he's trying desperately to get re-elected in a state that hates his guts.

As is Rep Jon Murtha. He's just as desparate with his pathetic anti-war rhetoric, his attmept to rally the anti-war goons over the war that he voted for, and now is selling our troops down the river like Sen lurch Kerry. As for Santorum, he's always that far down in every election, and then he comes back and wins. That's PA politics for you. 20 points down this far out in an election is nothing new. Just plenty of time for his opponent to screw up.



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User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3863 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4026 times:

Actually WMDs were found but not in Iraq.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/05/28/national/main555881.shtml



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4000 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 10):
Actually WMDs were found but not in Iraq.

Are you sure?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/07/iraq.nuclear/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3872201.stm
http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2005/09/23/afx2241585.html

Then again, I might be providing too many right-wing news sites.  sarcastic 


User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3976 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 9):
Just plenty of time for his opponent to screw up.

I doubt Bob Casey will screw up this time. I know people in Pittsburgh have had it with Santorum. For example, do you remember when Specter and Santorum came to Carnegie to see the devastation from the flooding two years ago? Specter was stunned. Santorum could not have cared less what had happened. Oh, yeah, and you heard his kids go to charter school since they spend most of their time in DC, right? The only way Santorum would get re-elected is if hell froze over in PHL and PIT. It really doesn't matter what the middle of the state says anymore.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3971 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 9):
20 points down this far out in an election is nothing new. Just plenty of time for his opponent to screw up.

Wait, wait, I thought that's the GOP explanation for the only way Dems are gonna win.  scratchchin 



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21637 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3930 times:

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 7):
I thought this week's excuse was we are in Iraq to fight the war on terror. Or did I miss the latest memo?

I thought it was to help the Iraqis establish a democratic government. I can never keep up with that stuff anyway.

No wonder we're spinning our wheels over there - we have no idea what we're actually supposed to be doing!

-Mir



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 3891 times:

Quoting YVRtoYYZ (Reply 6):
Source: FOX News

Need I say more?

Yeah, how about something substantive instead of drivel. Fox news QUOTED a US Senator . . . perhaps you think he's as off the wall as Fox news??? CNN reported it as did NBC. What say you - does  footinmouth  taste okay tonight?

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 9):
Agreed, but I thought it was still worth mentioning,

Damn skippy worth mentioning. No intention to rain on your news parade here.


User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 38
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 3889 times:

That doesn't matter, the point of the matter is... it doesn't matter at all! Bush is a hate-mongerer, and Cheney is still lining his pockets with Halliburton cash!

The fact of the matter is:

Bush lied, troops died!

and

No war for oil!

and

End US imperialism

and

Stop supporting genocide in Palestine!

and

Florida's elections were rigged in 2000! Re-vote!

[Edited 2006-06-22 07:44:33]


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 3868 times:

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 18):
Cheney is still lining his pockets with Halliburton cash!

Proof, Source?

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 18):
Bush lied, troops died!

Proof, Source?

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 18):
war for oil!

Proof, Source?

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 18):
Stop supporting genocide in Palestine!

     rotfl 

Geezus, you must be drinking some heavy duty bullshit water tonight JCS.

[Edited 2006-06-22 07:46:25]

User currently offlineDarrenthe747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 3861 times:

we can't win that war until we know why exactly we are there. initially it was WMD. then when there weren't any, they changed it to Iraqi freedom, then to terrorism...hell i don't know. what's the reason now??

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 9):
and to see the reaction from those who claimed that Iraq had no WMD's.

America knows he had WMD from the beginning becasue we gave them to him. The question at the time of the invasion was whether or not they were DEVELOPING or capable of developing new WMD's. It was proven that he was not, and this pile probably have US serial numbers stamped on them somewhere.


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3863 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 3858 times:

"...Bush is a hate-mongerer, and Cheney is still lining his pockets with Halliburton cash!

The fact of the matter is: Bush lied, troops died! and No war for oil! and End US imperialism and Stop supporting genocide in Palestine!"


You said it brother! You've finally seen the light!! Allelujah!!!
 Big grin



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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3826 times:

Quoting Darrenthe747 (Reply 20):
America knows he had WMD from the beginning becasue we gave them to him. The question at the time of the invasion was whether or not they were DEVELOPING or capable of developing new WMD's. It was proven that he was not, and this pile probably have US serial numbers stamped on them somewhere

First, check your sources on who gave weapons to the Iraqis. After all, their reactor was a gift from the French.

Second, lets not move the goalposts. The mantra was 'no WMDs', therefore, anything that could be used for WMDs or is WMDs are another reason for the invasion. Using your logic, if Saddam was known to have nukes, and those nukes were unaccounted for, that would not be a reason for invasion since after all "The question at the time of the invasion was whether or not they were DEVELOPING or capable of developing new WMD's".



Please see the links provided above for a further read on URANIUM found in Iraq in 2004

[Edited 2006-06-22 08:51:30]

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

Interesting Find after a long time.If true  Smile
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 17):
CNN reported it as did NBC.

ANC, can you point me in the right direction? I have checked websites from CNN, MSNBC, and ABC and I cannot locate the story. Yet, it is displayed quite prominently on the main page of the Fox News website (with a bit of a misleading headline, no less) . Is it possible Fox News might be sensationalizing this just a wee bit?


User currently offlineDarrenthe747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 23):
The mantra was 'no WMDs', therefore, anything that could be used for WMDs or is WMDs are another reason for the invasion.

I stand corrected:

"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.”

State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003

“We have also discovered through intelligence
that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."

State of the Union Address – 1/28/2003

"Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at [past nuclear] sites."

Bush speech to the nation – 10/7/2002

"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in."

Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3791 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 23):
First, check your sources on who gave weapons to the Iraqis.

The last US weapons given the Iraqi's were ancient and - somewhere there is a thread with the correct data, model numbers, years, etc - was 30 years ago??? Maybe longer? He's wrong, dead wrong, way wrong, and is a moot point.

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 25):
I have checked websites from CNN, MSNBC, and ABC and I cannot locate the story.

Local Channel 2 NBC News had it. www.ktuu.com. Surprised you can't find it elsewhere.

Yup, whenever Fox aires something - it's always best to double check . . . fair and balanced means checking BBC and CNN and NBC also.

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 25):
Is it possible Fox News might be sensationalizing this just a wee bit?

Absolutely. Welcome to Fox. Doesn't lesseon the fact they were found - unless Santorum is a liar. (**Cue Santorum is a liar post from someone**).


http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/21/iraq.senate/index.html

Santorum and Hoekstra released a newly declassified military intelligence report that said coalition forces have found 500 munitions in Iraq that contained degraded sarin or mustard nerve agents, produced before the 1991 Gulf War

[Edited 2006-06-22 09:08:47]

25 Post contains images BaylorAirBear : You, my friend, are the last person that has room to talk about living off of someone else. I've had doo-doo-butter falvoured Kool-Aid before, and it
26 Scbriml : Please wake me up when there's some real news.
27 ME AVN FAN : such weapons reportedly WERE used in war-actions against people in Northern Iraq, under the command of "Chemical Ali". The worst is that a lot of the
28 Dragon-wings : From the same article "Democrats said a lengthy 2005 report from the top U.S. weapons inspector contemplated that such munitions would be found."
29 Jetjack74 : And when Dan Rather and 60 Minutes reported the Bill Burkett story about Bush's phoney ANG documents story, I had a hard time finding another news ou
30 Itsjustme : Thanks. I thought maybe you were referring to the cable channels and not the net. I'm at work but thanks to a severe case of the scoots, I've spent m
31 RichardPrice : Actually their first reactor was a gift from the US in 1967, a 5MW light water reactor at Tehran University. In 1974 France signed an agreement to bu
32 Post contains links AeroWesty : Correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't the nuclear material that was removed, from a previously known and declared facility? It wasn't anything tha
33 AndesSMF : I know, but I thought the idea was that he had nothing.
34 AeroWesty : He had low-grade uranium all the time. I think it was the whole yellowcake from Niger issue that was one of the reasons for the invasion.
35 AndesSMF : And low grade uranium can be easily used for dirty bombs.
36 RichardPrice : No the idea was that he had lots of stuff undeclared. The UN had huge amounts of materials and equipment under seal prior to the invasion.
37 AndesSMF : Right, and what was there to stop Iraq from breaking the seals to get whatever they wanted?
38 RichardPrice : The fact that it would have taken them months, even years to produce something usable from that material, during which time the UNSC would have met a
39 Braybuddy : Are you telling us there are still some people in the States who actually think the war in Iraq was a qood idea?
40 AndesSMF : Like the breaking of seals in North Korea and Iran?
41 ME AVN FAN : the IAEC (Iraqi Atomic Energy Commission) in Tuwaitha-Baghdad in the 1980ies acquired scientific material (instruments and chemicals) of US-American
42 RichardPrice : NK has nuclear weapons, and Irans removal of seals was done under IAEA supervision with monitoring equipment left in place and active, because it was
43 Post contains images TedTAce : " target=_blank>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,....html JetJoke posted an article that's UNDER 3 years old?!?!? Too bad it's as full of stuffing
44 Post contains links Texan : Defense Department disavows Santorum's claim Texan
45 MD80fanatic : Okay then, so Mr. Rumsfeld lied yet again last month when asked by ex-CIA analyst Ray McGovern about his earlier statements regarding Iraq's WMDs. Rum
46 ME AVN FAN : Suggest you ask Mr Rumsfeld, the expert in matters of the unknown unknowns. What of course WAS found in Iraq is ABC-weaponry out-of-date and no longe
47 Jaysit : The Pentagon has rebuked Santorum for making these idiotic comments. These pre-1991 degraded weapons were not the reason we went to war. Their presenc
48 DeltaDC9 : Yes, as in why you cannot separate editorial content from the news. See above Varies between 40 and 60% No, just confusion. Does anyone ever look at
49 Jaysit : LOL. Confusion? Yes, and Clinton was confused as to the meaning of sex too. Confusion has now become the euphemism for lies for desperate politicians
50 Post contains images Texan : Hmmm...Fox News no longer has the story on their website. Interesting Texan
51 Slider : The several hundred thousand murdered Iraqis might disagree had they not been slaughtered by Saddam. Yeah, we love that $3.00 a gallon gas! What a ma
52 Braybuddy : Do these people read newspapers or watch anything other than Fox News?
53 Texan : Thank President Reagan for that. The government knew Saddam's plans. They knew about the gassings, chem and bio testing on Kurds and political oppone
54 Jaysit : Right. Now lets give those hucksters who started this whole misadventure a get out of jail card. Nice try, but no cigar. You need to try going out in
55 NumberTwelve : Ok, IF there were WMD's, why didn't Iraq use them when the US invaded the country?
56 Mt99 : Wasnt that Hans Blix's job?
57 ME AVN FAN : I fail to understand the USA. There were some perfect reasons to remove Saddam Hussein from power : he was a terrible dictator he was a threat to neig
58 Post contains links and images Mrmeangenes : I see there's a few members of the "Bush lied-people died" crowd with us,so I'd like to call attention to the CIA's 2002 Estimate: http://www.globalse
59 Post contains images Slider : Indeed. It's one of the biggest reasons why I denounce realpolitik as a means to justify an ends. Usually those means (in the form of weapons, arms,
60 AeroWesty : I'm sure you'd have no problem detailing for us where/when Saddam supported terrorism with these known caches. Remember, that's the reason for the wa
61 MD80fanatic : If Mr. Rumsfeld had simply said "It's classified and I am not at liberty to discuss the issue" that would have been enough for me (and it would have b
62 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : again, this never should have been so much in the centre of argument. Most of the stuff, Iraq had acquired in the 70ies and 80ies was out-of-date and
63 Post contains images FXramper : The story is being run on MSNBC, CNBC, Bloomberg, Reuters, AP, CNN, and Drudge. The age old Fox News joke is getting old dude. As stated, I'm just gl
64 Slider : And she has been proven correct. More wars and misery have been inflicted on this planet because of stopping short of victory and not going far enoug
65 ME AVN FAN : why did Bush senior NOT "finish the job" ? > he feared that the Shi'ites might turn either towards Iran or against the USA or both > he feared that t
66 Slider : Good points and I think a couple are viable. I think it was simply a matter of not enraging the UN, to which Bush was always hot on. He's an old inte
67 ME AVN FAN : a less friendly thought, even if based on sheer speculation of course, might be to presume that some US planners realized that by blocking Iraq from
68 Maury : Say...if rusty old chem shells are WMDs, what does that make fresh new nuclear-weapon-bearing long-range missiles? Fox News, even, says North Korea ha
69 Post contains images WellHung : lmao... these were such deadly 'weapons of mass destruction' and provide such indesputable 'proof' for the reason we entered into this disaster that e
70 Jaysit : Fox News also reported that hundreds of pounds of cow dung were found in Iraq today. Sen. Santorum was quick to state "I'm familiar with cow poo, and
71 Post contains images JCS17 : Anyone who thought I was remotely serious in this post should've at least been tipped off by... the last line... or all my other posts. Jeez...
72 DeltaDC9 : In case you are not aware, the US is technically at war with North Korea and we have been since 1951. All we have is a cease fire. South Korea must b
73 Dragon-wings : Or maybe because they were old weapons and are/were not effective anymore.
74 Maury : Truer words have rarely been spewed. I know it's causing the administration no end of difficulty! Ah...well, I guess the South Koreans are comfortabl
75 Post contains links Mrmeangenes : What an "interesting" interpretation !! In any event, here's a little information on weapons of this sort.(The UNMOVIC link doesn't seem to work, but
76 AeroWesty : I understand where you're coming from, and I also know he used this material at one point against his own people. The greater question is, is that we
77 DeltaDC9 : Why is it when we talk about Vietnam era US chemical weapons, they are considered extremely lethal, immoral, dangerous, and in need of disposal by ce
78 DeltaDC9 : You can spin it any way you like, but we will not go to war with North Korea without consulting with South Korea, it just wont happen. Who said we wo
79 AeroWesty : Good question! I've based my question on what was contained in the news article linked. "Offering the official administration response to FOX News, a
80 Post contains images Airbus3801 : Funny how this information just comes out when the Republican party is worried about mid term elections. This is clearly timed
81 Mrmeangenes : You could be right: I remember Jack Kennedy doing the same thing when he first ran for president.( I believe he claimed the Republicans were weak on
82 AeroWesty : Kennedy promised stronger defense policies than his opponent, Nixon. It would have been foolhardy to claim the then current president, Eisenhower, wa
83 Santosdumont : I would argue that Bush played fast and loose with the American public so as to securely attach the war in Iraq to the coattails of the war in Afghani
84 Texan : You'll only be my friend if I give you weapons that I know you are going to use to kill thousands of other people? Please don't ask me to be your fri
85 DrDeke : Yeah, that'd be great, except that most of the world DIDN'T sign off on this war nor on the "evidence" that the US government used as an excuse to st
86 Jetjack74 : Hardly a reliable source. Most of the pentagon employees are the same as the NSA, CIA, and FBI staffers which a bunch of lefties held over from the C
87 Post contains links and images AeroWesty : Hmm, Carter's been out of office for 26 years. Hey ANC worked there, he'd be the definitive source. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05324/609044.stm "
88 Mrmeangenes : Hey: I remember it quite well ! In fact, it's one of the reasons I voted for him. It was the first time I voted in a presidential election,and, like
89 Post contains links Jetjack74 : True, and after the Nixon staffers of strategic geniuses were dealt with, the Carter Administration virtually replaced them all, with those who turne
90 AeroWesty : Dunno, I wasn't there. I've turned down things using that kind of language when I wanted to be polite. He extended the offer to invest in his distric
91 Gilligan : When I read this story in USA whatdahey while waiting for a flight in CVG I just had to chuckle thinking about how a.net servers were probably glowing
92 Texan : Which foreign power was it that invaded us because we had stockpiles of typhus we were going to spread across Europe? Texan
93 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : really ? you mean THE rare occasion when the USA paid attention to Arab wishes ? Yeah, sure (sarcastically) Confused Neither the USA as a country nor
94 SATX : Here we are patting ourselves on the back for apparently finding some old munitions in Iraq. Makes me wonder what these same folks think about the EPA
95 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Disagree . . . . the 5 sided funny farm will swing what ever damn direction the SecDef says it will swing. At the moment - decidedly right. Sometimes
96 Post contains images Gilligan : We didn't wait, we declared war on Germany not once but twice last century. The first time for the sinking of a ship, the second because it was the r
97 Texan : Gilligan, I'm not disagreeing with you on that. To be completely accurate, Germany declared war against us first in WWII. But I'm still confused on y
98 RichardPrice : Well, actually for the record you didnt declare war on Germany in 1941, Germany declared war on the US. US forces were directed to fire on German for
99 AeroWesty : Interesting in all the tangents no one's taken even a cursory shot at this.
100 Gilligan : The analogy to the civil war is that it was fought for different reasons at different times, just as our operation in Iraq went from toppling Saddam
101 DeltaDC9 : Actually, yes, this was when we still had excellent relations with the Saudis, and they were very persuasive in getting Bush to stick to the UN manda
102 AeroWesty : The latest news I saw on this cache was that it was buried near the Iraq-Iran border, leftover from the war between those two countries, and forgotte
103 ME AVN FAN : "smart" ? I in that time even supported the stop, and sided with Bush, but simply was WRONG. I however opposed the extreme sanctions imposed on Iraq
104 GDB : Er.....ever heard the idea that Chem/Bio agents degrade? This has been posted before, it's pathetic and usually happens when another 'milestone' in Ir
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