Ok so basically, what would you do in this situation? What is legal? Since he is beating the shit out of the car, could you run him over? Could you shoot him? Wow...
JetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2362 posts, RR: 6 Reply 2, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1013 times:
Seriously though, what would your options be? Mostly looking for ANCFlyer's insight on this... Because your life isn't really in danger, or is it? That would be just such a shit situation i cant imagine...
Boeing4ever From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4924 posts, RR: 49 Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 998 times:
Run the asshole down...it's self defense...either run him down, or he starts reaching into one of those broken windows and starts injuring the occupants... One less idiot crackhead to worry about.
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NWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 998 times:
If I was armed, I would have shot him dead on the spot. If not, I would have made every attempt to run over him.
Right to protect your own property here in TX.
Besides, a crazy asshole swinging a weapon like that around me - I would consider that to be a threat to my life/safety, and that is also grounds for defensive action.
NWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 998 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 5): I'd leave him to it. If you stop him, it's clear it's your car - think of the shame of people realising you owned a PT Cruiser.
Daleaholic From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 2932 posts, RR: 19 Reply 9, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 998 times:
I'd probably attempt to run the asshole over! Failing that I'd just drive off quickly. People like that are not needed in society, they give nothing. A lot like Chavs. Shoot them.
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Boeing4ever From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 4924 posts, RR: 49 Reply 10, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 986 times:
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 5): I'd leave him to it. If you stop him, it's clear it's your car - think of the shame of people realising you owned a PT Cruiser.
hmmmm, on the other hand...
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AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 980 times:
He's got a deadly weapon. He's threatening people with it by destroying their property with them it in it. And there's no easy means of escape. Hmmm...running him down would be a coin toss whether it's justifiable self defense. A car (which itself is a deadly weapon) may not be considered on par with his weapon. It would make an interesting jury trial.
Birdwatching From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2615 posts, RR: 58 Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 961 times:
I guess if the car's driver is white and he runs over the black guy, his lawyers will make it look like an act of racism. Sad but true.
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777236ER From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 12779 posts, RR: 57 Reply 13, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 961 times:
Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 12): I guess if the car's driver is white and he runs over the black guy, his lawyers will make it look like an act of racism.
Without any hesitation.
I've always wanted to know what it feels like to run over someone.
That homeless is probably stupid enough to turn his back when he's done and that's when I'll pick up some speed and wham him. Oh yeah.
AirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4376 posts, RR: 59 Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 923 times:
In all seriousness, I would literally just call the cops. In the US I wouldn't dare get out of the car but if I was somewhere more civilised I might just get out and try to mitigate the situation, as I am sure other observers would do.
By the way, that video was taken in Las Vegas. Look at the casino thing underneath the general store and if you look carefully you can make out the Stratosphere in the background. But that clip really reminded me of LA.
Incidentally - how would the owner of the car claim insurance damage for that? Surely he'd need eyewitnesses?
Itsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2598 posts, RR: 13 Reply 19, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 910 times:
As a civilian, I can guarantee he would have been struck by my vehicle as I was trying to get away from him. As a police officer, he would have found himself bringing a metal pipe to a gun fight.
The driver of the vehicle did exactly the right thing. Stay in your vehicle and drive away. Bashed in cars can be repaired. Bashed in heads....maybe not.
QR332 From Qatar, joined Apr 2004, 2687 posts, RR: 59 Reply 21, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 902 times:
Quoting JetsGo (Thread starter): Ok so basically, what would you do in this situation? What is legal? Since he is beating the shit out of the car, could you run him over? Could you shoot him? Wow...
I'd run the bastard over without thinking twice. He's breaking windows, smashing the car up, etc, and I see that as a threat to me - what if he tries to reach in through a window?
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AirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4376 posts, RR: 59 Reply 22, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 888 times:
Quoting Rolfen (Reply 20): Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 18):
I might just get out and try to mitigate the situation, as I am sure other observers would do.
You want to "mitigate" the situation with an obviously crazy mf with a bat? Good luck.
Well you're right, I wouldn't actually. Perhaps what I meant to say is that if something was going on and it didn't look like I would sustain an injury and it was the sort of thing that other people were around for I would then try to mitigate.
Rolfen From Lebanon, joined Jan 2006, 1512 posts, RR: 2 Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 871 times:
Okay, most of you seem to be willing to run him down, but is it legal?
It can be considered self defense, I guess, but the thing is that when this guy is destroying you car you wont be able to run him over as he's too close to you to pick up enough speed to hurt him.
So what if he walks away and you follow him and run him over? I'd like to know what will happen in court after that.
BTW I have heard that homeless people in the US somehow have less "rights" then regular people, I have even heard that you can get away with killing one of them.
MDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 871 times:
Quoting NWA742 (Reply 7): Right to protect your own property here in TX.
To protect your property from theft/arson/burglary
The use of lethal force in the face of vandalism is only permitted for criminal mischief at night... and then is very thin defense as the use of lethal force in the protection of property is only valid for unrecoverable losses.
It's the law in TX that your vehicle be ensured. The loss is recoverable.
Now, instead of saying it's a property loss issue, say that you were afraid for your life.
The law is mostly about learning how to properly articulate. Saying the right phrases at the right time can be the difference between not being charged and a life sentence.
reference Tx Penal Code Section 9.42 Deadly force to protect property.
Anywho, just drive off. And unlike the driver in this video, remember that the curb is an excellent escape option when traffic blocks the way. And no, don't worry about running over your assailant.
25 MDorBust: If you can express yourself that you believed your life was in danger, you couldn't find an escape route (only in some states is an attempt to retrea
27 Itsjustme: Once the threat no longer exists, any additional actions on your part would be treated as separate from the original incident. Following this asshole
28 SlamClick: Gotta love cell phones. Gotta love 9-1-1 Yes you have a right to protect yourself and your property. These rights are pretty specific and somewhat lim
29 Fbgdavidson: Out of interest how do you know it was scripted? I don't speak ebonic or jive so couldn't understand a word he was uttering and why he chose to smash
30 Birdwatching: Also, what was the camera man doing there in the first place? Soren
31 Canuckpaxguy: My instinct would be to get the hell away from the crazy S.O.B. I would even have driven into the back of that other car that was blocking in the p/t
32 Itsjustme: I have to believe the person operating the camera was in on what was about to happen. Sort of like these brain dead kids who videotape themselves des
33 Leezyjet: A guy in the UK has been arrested for attempted murder for running down 3 teenagers who vandalised his car whilst it was parked on his drive. They sma
34 Rolfen: I wouldnt do that unless I felt my life threatened. If I was sitting in the car at that time my adrenaline would be flowing pretty high and I might d
35 Daleaholic: It sounds as if there is children in the car on the video. Hope that asshole gets a taste of his own medicine!
36 WellHung: In the least surprising news to hit A.net this side of English soccer fan rioting, NWA742 decides that someone else deserves to die.
37 YYZflyer: First I'd attempt to run him over without a second thought. And if that failed, I'd open the trunk and run to get a shovel
38 BA787: I'd get outta tha car and twat him depending on his size and failing that I'd run his ass over and over And PT Cruisers are ace Best car to come out o
39 JetsGo: Was that a lady driving the PT Cruiser? And he was calling her a nigga and trying to fight her? What a worthless piece of shit that guy is. Too bad no
40 Fumanchewd: That is why it is imperitive to get the trunk monkey option on your car when you buy it. Let the monkey do the work.
41 Cadet57: Are you sick? A womans life could have been in danger.... I bet your of person that finds plane crashes funny too... How do you know?
42 RichardPrice: Simple, take the weapon off the punk and beat him with it, see if he can beat on something more than an inanimate object. Teach the little git a lesso
43 BaylorAirBear: Only liability is required in Texas, and that wouldn't help in this instance. I know when my stereo was stolen, I was able to claim it on my home own
44 MDorBust: .... wow... it's a sad day for me when I can't even properly remember the laws of my own state. You are correct. Texas is a liability only state. Les
45 NWA742: Careful, you'll get the bleeding heart criminal guardians all over you for that one. Yeah, hilarious. -NWA742
46 Trav110: As soon as that worthless piece of shit started hitting my car, I'd get the hell out of there. I don't own anything that can do blunt force damage lik
47 BristolFlyer: Ironically the only words I picked up on (other than m%ther f*cker and n#gga) were 'do you understand?'! It looks fake to me. Anyway if it wasn't and
48 Roger136913: Parking lot of the worlds largest gift shop right? I assume people did not help as they thought it was stagged also? If not it is sad no one helped t
49 Birdwatching: This is America! They'd need to get out of their air conditioned cars to do that. Soren
50 VHVXB: I agree This guy seems to have very limited vocabulary every 2nd word is F*ck
51 UALPHLCS: I'd take out the gun that Im licenced to carry and shoot the SOB. My life and property are in danger and there is video and witnesses to prove it.
52 Jetjack74: "WTF was this n*gga sayin, muthaf*cka?" Signed, Da baddist muthaf*cka on earth
53 Jetjack74: Crystal-meth addict, high as a kite.
54 Bill142: probably drop a couple of those bungers in my glove box out the window then get out and take to him with the maglite
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