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The Most Irritatiing Features Of Windows . . .  
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 32
Posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2464 times:

Having been through all the versions of Windows since, oh '98 (there WAS a Windows 98, wasn't there?) I'm amazed by some of the irritating little bugs that haven't been ironed out.

Two come to mind: I often transfer pics from my desktop or one folder to another. When selecting them I hold down "Control" while clicking on the pics to copy. If there are a lot, I get careless and sometimes slide the mouse from one pic to another, with the result that all the pics I've selected suddenly being duplicated. These, of course, then have to be selected, again using the Control key. Then the same happens again, with the result that I get "Copy of copy of XXXX". I've even been known to get "Copy of copy of copy of . . ". Drives me mad!

Also, when transferring pics from one folder to another, they never appear in the order that they appeared in the first folder. I know I can right click and simply select "Arrange icons by picutre taken on", but this can upset the pics already in the folder.

Maybe there are simple solutions to these irritating features, and if anyone out there knows them, do tell. Mr Gates doesn't seem to have thought of them. And DON'T anyone out there tell me to get a Mac. I'd love to, but I know nothing about computers and my best mate works with PCs and fixes all my hardware problems and upgrades. He says if I get a Mac I'm on my own . ..

Anyone else got bugs in Windows that bug them?

[Edited 2006-06-26 14:30:23]

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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8458 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

Windows itself is the bug. Mac's are the windowless and don't allow bugs in.

Signed
Klaus


User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

The price. (i.e. Does Windows and Office deserve to make Bill and his buddies the richest people on the planet?)

User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8725 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Since Windows 98?

You have some catching up to do! The first Windows I suffered from was "Windows 3.11 for Workgroups". It came in 3.5" floppy form! Big grin

The one bug they have never sorted out is Window's rebootitis. In most cases, you have to reboot when something doesn't work (or spontaneously stops working) and then it's back to normal... hello? I'd like a description of the error so I can at least try and fix it! Oh, yes... it's easier to reboot, I see.  banghead 



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
The Most Irritatiing Features Of Windows . . .

Latches that stick and faded curtains.


User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5165 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
Having been through all the versions of Windows since, oh '98 (there WAS a Windows 98, wasn't there?) I'm amazed by some of the irritating little bugs that haven't been ironed out.

You n00b! I still remember Windows 3.11......

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
Two come to mind: I often transfer pics from my desktop or one folder to another. When selecting them I hold down "Control" while clicking on the pics to copy. If there are a lot, I get careless and sometimes slide the mouse from one pic to another, with the result that all the pics I've selected suddenly being duplicated. These, of course, then have to be selected, again using the Control key. Then the same happens again, with the result that I get "Copy of copy of XXXX". I've even been known to get "Copy of copy of copy of . . ". Drives me mad!

Ease up on the masturbation. After a few weeks of rest the shakes should go away...

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
Also, when transferring pics from one folder to another, they never appear in the order that they appeared in the first folder. I know I can right click and simply select "Arrange icons by picutre taken on", but this can upset the pics already in the folder.

The image you click on when you drag them across will go to the top of the list, with all other images assuming their original order. Click the first image in the list when dragging across to avoid muddling them up.

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
Maybe there are simple solutions to these irritating features, and if anyone out there knows them, do tell. Mr Gates doesn't seem to have thought of them. And DON'T anyone out there tell me to get a Mac. I'd love to, but I know nothing about computers and my best mate works with PCs and fixes all my hardware problems and upgrades. He says if I get a Mac I'm on my own . ..

Install Linux instead and embrace the power of the penguin!



That'll teach you
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2429 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
And DON'T anyone out there tell me to get a Mac. I'd love to, but I know nothing about computers and my best mate works with PCs and fixes all my hardware problems and upgrades. He says if I get a Mac I'm on my own . ..

That should not hold you back at all. Any PC technician can do the same things on a Mac as well (or you can even do it yourself in many cases). It's pretty much the same technology, just usually with better construction. And as you may have noticed, Mac users stick together and help each other out...!


User currently offlineRolfen From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

The multitasking in mac is soo much better, when you're on osx, the window that has focus automatically has superior CPU priority over applications, so that the window you're working on always stays smooth and responsive.
Nothing complicated, really very simple idea.

Yet MS Windows didnt implement that yet... any program running on your computer can bring the whole system to its knees, no matter whether it has the focus or if it even exists as a window. Of course, you can set the priority manually through the task manager, but that's not very useful, aint it? and by the time you bring up the task manager in such a situation, you could have a made yourself a cup of tea.

That's another thing I dont understand. Why doesnt the task manager launch with superior priority? That improvement would probably involve changing no more that one line of code... !



rolf
User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 3):
Since Windows 98?

You have some catching up to do!

Read the post again Aloges. This time with your glasses on!

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 4):
Latches that stick and faded curtains.

LOL! I asked for that.

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 5):
Ease up on the masturbation. After a few weeks of rest the shakes should go away...

Oh I couldn't possibly do that. Deleting duplicate pics is a small price to pay for the five-knuckle shuffle.

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 5):
The image you click on when you drag them across will go to the top of the list, with all other images assuming their original order. Click the first image in the list when dragging across to avoid muddling them up.

Interesting. I'll try that.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 1):
Install Linux instead and embrace the power of the penguin!

Ditto.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 6):
That should not hold you back at all. Any PC technician can do the same things on a Mac as well

Sorry, not an option. My mates insists I'm on my own if I do. I annoy him enough as it is and he's not a person I want to get on the bad side of!


User currently offlineMetalInyoni From South Africa, joined Oct 2005, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
And DON'T anyone out there tell me to get a Mac.

I have recently converted ( 18 months ago) and am impressed so far. No rebooting yet.

The only problem is sharing files with windows based people - its a ballache.

If you use Excell a lot then you'd better stay with windows as the Mac spreadsheet program aint great although you can get Microsoft office for Mac its expensive and you may have to sell your body on the weekend to pay for it.



Money doesn't make you happy but I would rather cry in a BMW than on public transport.
User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Many of the most irritating bugs have been there since DOS....but in the last 26 years I have grown to accept them as the nature of the beast. At least the "blue-screen of death" has, for the most part, gone away....leaving you with the option of terminating just one process only (hopefully).

Some of the rebooting problems stem from having 10000 competing companies writing software for the same OS....not all are friendly to each other and rarely cooperate fully on coding standards. When people are running 2 dozen applications at once there will invariably be resourse sharing/memory overwriting issues involved leading to chaos. Still windows could do a little better in this area no doubt (as Linux does).

I understand your pain. I get frustrated just trying to get a damn directory listing from a Mac. Is there a thing like a "command prompt" window on a Mac?Sometimes I don't want a huge multi-page frame of icons to look at, when a simple sorted list of names would do.


User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
Two come to mind: I often transfer pics from my desktop or one folder to another. When selecting them I hold down "Control" while clicking on the pics to copy. If there are a lot, I get careless and sometimes slide the mouse from one pic to another, with the result that all the pics I've selected suddenly being duplicated. These, of course, then have to be selected, again using the Control key. Then the same happens again, with the result that I get "Copy of copy of XXXX". I've even been known to get "Copy of copy of copy of . . ". Drives me mad

Couldn't agree more. An incredibly annoying "feature".

I have a question for the Mac fans. While my SO was shopping yesterday, I spent time in the Apple store at Tysons. I was playing around on an IMac, which I really liked, except for one thing. When I started MS Word, the screen was tiny - it filled only half the screen. Is there any way to make the screen larger, or is that a casualty of using a MS product on an Apple?


User currently offlineLO231 From Belgium, joined Sep 2004, 2392 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
"Copy of copy of XXXX".

You have a lot of porn then.  Wink

Regards,
LO231



Got both LO 788 frames already, next LO E95 and 734 BRU-WAW-BRU
User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
I'd love to, but I know nothing about computers and my best mate works with PCs and fixes all my hardware problems and upgrades. He says if I get a Mac I'm on my own . ..

If you had a Mac, you wouldn't have nearly as many hardware issues. Upgrades are dead easy, and software updates are a relatively brainless task....
Plus.....so far, not a major virus target.



'Somebody tell me why I'm on my own if there's a soulmate for everyone' :Natasha Bedingfield
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 8):
Sorry, not an option. My mates insists I'm on my own if I do. I annoy him enough as it is and he's not a person I want to get on the bad side of!

Get a Mac, leave him alone with the problems you no longer have and buy him a beer at the pub while talking about things other than Windows worries!  bigthumbsup 

Even little old ladies can deal with their Macs, even without having their grandchildren spending most of their visits swearing and toiling at getting the PC up and running again.

Quoting MetalInyoni (Reply 9):
If you use Excell a lot then you'd better stay with windows as the Mac spreadsheet program aint great although you can get Microsoft office for Mac its expensive and you may have to sell your body on the weekend to pay for it.

You mean as opposed to just stealing the Windows version...?  mischievous 

Office for Mac works pretty much the same as under Windows, according to people who've used both a lot it's actually better under MacOS X...

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 10):
Some of the rebooting problems stem from having 10000 competing companies writing software for the same OS....

No. It's a question of system design to 90%. Windows is a conceptual nightmare, and it shows at every turn.

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 10):
I get frustrated just trying to get a damn directory listing from a Mac. Is there a thing like a "command prompt" window on a Mac?Sometimes I don't want a huge multi-page frame of icons to look at, when a simple sorted list of names would do.

I don't think I understand your problem.

If you want the list view in a Finder window, simply press <CMD>-2 or select As List in the Finder's View menu.

The column view is also very practical, primarily for navigation.

There is a standard Unix command line interface (usually a bash shell by default) with full scripting capability as well (run the Terminal application to access), but most people will never need it.


User currently offlineRolfen From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2359 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 14):
There is a standard Unix command line interface (usually a bash shell by default) with full scripting capability as well (run the Terminal application to access), but most people will never need it.

@ MD80fanatic
If you want a directory using the osx "terminal", change to the directory using the cd command:
example
cd /Users/myuser/Desktop

then you can have a listing by using the ls command
example:
ls -l
the -l switch is for the "long" list format. to see other available switches, formats, etc... type "man ls" to read the manual of the ls command (type q to exit the manual when done  Smile )

another command you might need is "pwd" : type pwd it will tell you which directory you're at

and if you want to look for a particular command, can use "apropos"
for example
apropos list
will give you a list commands (and system calls and manual pages) that have something to do with listing. of course the list is pretty long, so if you're looking for directory listing, you mignt want to filter that list, so try:
apropos list |grep directory

voila. That will filter the output of apropos and only display the lines containind the the directory word, which should give you a list of commands pertaining to directory listing
For more info about any of these commands type "man" followed by the command name.

Note that the grep thing works on any command, it can filter the ouput of any command, for example you can use it on the ls command like this:

ls |grep .html

[Edited 2006-06-26 16:01:44]


rolf
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7960 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2357 times:

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
When selecting them I hold down "Control" while clicking on the pics to copy. If there are a lot, I get careless and sometimes slide the mouse from one pic to another, with the result that all the pics I've selected suddenly being duplicated. These, of course, then have to be selected, again using the Control key.



Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
Maybe there are simple solutions to these irritating features, and if anyone out there knows them, do tell.

First, you don't necessarily need the Ctrl-key to select images. Just list the items in your folder, maybe sort them (file type) and select those you want to copy with your mouse by holding the left mouse button pressed.

Try moving your pictures with the right mouse button pressed. After you release the button, a context menue will open with all the options to choose from.

Even if you create unwanted duplicates, the duplicates should still be selected. Hence a hit on Del will remove them.

Quoting Braybuddy (Thread starter):
And DON'T anyone out there tell me to get a Mac. I'd love to, but I know nothing about computers and my best mate works with PCs and fixes all my hardware problems and upgrades.

That shouldn't be an issue. Copying or moving files from one folder or drive to another on a Mac, is, however, certainly no less irritating than on a PC.

[Edited 2006-06-26 16:15:45]


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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 11):
When I started MS Word, the screen was tiny - it filled only half the screen. Is there any way to make the screen larger, or is that a casualty of using a MS product on an Apple?

You probably meant the window was too small?

Mac applications behave a bit differently from Windows ones; Window sizes and positions are usually just remembered from the last time you've run that application.

You could just resize it manually (drag the lower right corner) or select Windows - arrange all from the menu.

The next time you start it up that will be the default window size and position.


User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

yes, thanks fellas for the hints. I knew MacOS was very Unix like but never could figure out how to make it command line. I thought Finder was a file search tool but apparently it is more than that. According to Klaus is must have a similar interface to Window explorer (no offense).

User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 18):
According to Klaus is must have a similar interface to Window explorer (no offense).

None taken.

The Windows Explorer has indeed been modeled after the MacOS Finder and fills basically the same role.


User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5758 posts, RR: 32
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Quoting LO231 (Reply 12):
You have a lot of porn then.

No, certainly not. Definitely not. Absolutely not. (Not enough actually!).

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 16):
First, you don't necessarily need the Ctrl-key to select images. Just list the items in your folder, maybe sort them (file type) and select those you want to copy with your mouse by holding the left mouse button pressed.

Try moving your pictures with the right mouse button pressed. After you release the button, a context menue will open with all the options to choose from.

Even if you create unwanted duplicates, the duplicates should still be selected. Hence a hit on Del will remove them.

Thanks NoUFO. I'll try that.


User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 14):
Even little old ladies can deal with their Macs, even without having their grandchildren spending most of their visits swearing and toiling at getting the PC up and running again.

Try telling that to my mother. She insists on sticking with Windows because that's "What she knows." It really isn't an issue for me though. I built her a computer two years ago for $300, and it's never gone wrong once.  crossfingers 

Quoting Klaus (Reply 14):
ou mean as opposed to just stealing the Windows version...?

Hey man, you can steal the Mac version too. Not that I'm speaking from personal experience or anything.  Wink

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 16):
Copying or moving files from one folder or drive to another on a Mac, is, however, certainly no less irritating than on a PC.

 checkmark 

-AC773



Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

Don't get a MAC. There are only two possibilities if you do.

1. Mac will become as popular as PCs so cyberterrorists will start writing virii for them too. or

2. They will not become popular and PCs will eventually drive them from the market like VHS did to the superior Beta.

Your mouse-twitching might be fixed by adjusting the mouse settings a little coarser.

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 5):
You n00b! I still remember Windows 3.11......

Don't even remember my first Windows version.
My first operating system was DOS 1.2



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2292 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 17):
You probably meant the window was too small?

Mac applications behave a bit differently from Windows ones; Window sizes and positions are usually just remembered from the last time you've run that application.

You could just resize it manually (drag the lower right corner) or select Windows - arrange all from the menu.

The next time you start it up that will be the default window size and position

Yes, I meant the window.

Thanks for the tip.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21486 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2272 times:

Quoting AC773 (Reply 21):
Try telling that to my mother.

No, that's still your job!

Quoting AC773 (Reply 21):
Hey man, you can steal the Mac version too.

Tell us more - and speak clearly into the flower vase, please...!  mischievous 

Quoting AC773 (Reply 21):
Not that I'm speaking from personal experience or anything.

Of course not...

Quoting NoUFO (Reply 16):
That shouldn't be an issue. Copying or moving files from one folder or drive to another on a Mac, is, however, certainly no less irritating than on a PC.

I can't really see where the problem would be...

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 22):
Don't get a MAC. There are only two possibilities if you do.

Actually you missed

3. Apple will die any minute now anyway!


25 Post contains links and images Nighthawk : Amiga Workbench baby! Damn that looks so bad by todays standards!
26 KaiGywer : My first computer had MS-DOS 6.0 on it. Remember when I upgraded to 6.22, had a whole 3 floppy discs. I also had Windows 3.1. As one of my experiment
27 NoUFO : Not really a problem, but basics such as copying or moving files from one drive or folder to another isn't a problem on a Windows PC either. As you s
28 777236ER : All 8 of them?
29 Post contains images Klaus : I doubt that "the other 7" own all the millions of Macs that have been sold which I don't own...!
30 777236ER : Are you admitting that Apple is corrupt?
31 Klaus : Huh? What are you talking about?
32 IFEMaster : I certainly wouldn't want my active window to be the one commanding CPU resources, but even if I did, with dual core and hyperthreading options these
33 Post contains images 777236ER : Well, I'm not going to libel myself on a public forum, but you strongly hinted to accounting irregularities at Apple. If they're going to lie about t
34 ANother : Our Graphic people were pushing to get Macs for some years, and our IT director refused - no way, he said - We can't afford to support two platforms.
35 NoUFO : OS-X has indeed the better multitasking, however this .... ... was, I believe, introduced to Windows 3.1, but in any case before it was introduced to
36 Garnetpalmetto : Aww, makes me miss Workbench. I still have my Amiga 500 up in the attic. Great systems when they were built and pretty stable to boot. For what it's
37 StarAC17 : Well as long as they continue to make I-pods they will be fine and from what I have heard about them they have huge issues with that as well.
38 SlamClick : I LOVE that screen capture. With your permission I'm going to run it as wallpaper on my computer to discourage others from messing with it. At the of
39 Wardialer : I manage about 900 Win2000/2003 servers and most irritating thing is, is that when you do updates...You constantly have to reboot Windows. I also mana
40 Post contains images Klaus : Rubbish. Apple has the billions at the bank to prove their sales. Yes, Apple is actually debt-free with billions in cash on hand. Rather difficult to
41 777236ER : How much of that do you seriously believe is down to their operating system, and how much of that is down to iPod sales? Serious examples, please? Ma
42 IFEMaster : That's a bit of an exaggeration. As an Apple shareholder, the financial that I received for Q1 and Q2 2006 showed a healthy balance sheet, but certai
43 AndesSMF : Anything out there is better than Micros**t. I have been more than surprised and annoyed at MS inability to provide good networking capability in eve
44 IFEMaster : Eh? How are you attempting to do this? I've had no problem with it. My test network at the office has 3 XP boxes and 5 Win2k3 boxes backing up to net
45 StarAC17 : I stand corrected. I know my cousin and one of my friends had to send their's back because of the screen messing up, but that was the Ipod mini and f
46 AndesSMF : Is there something I am missing? Excel, for example, doesnt show the full network path to an opened file, it only shows the file name. So if I try to
47 IFEMaster : How do you open your files - browse to them and double click? Or do you use the File - Open - Browse method? And what version of Excel?
48 AndesSMF : I browse to them and double click. I use Office 2003. Thanks
49 IFEMaster : Have you tried the File - Open method? And what is the exact error message you get (word for word)?
50 AndesSMF : The message is: 'A document with the name 'xxxx' is already open. You cannot open two documents with the same name, even if the documents are in diffe
51 IFEMaster : Bizarre. I can open multiple documents with the same name. Here's some stuff to try: Tools - Options - Check 'Ignore Other Applications' Uninstall & R
52 Rolfen : The part of the UI that should be the most responsive is where you're clicking, dont you agree? And if your active window uses no CPU resources then
53 IFEMaster : For what I mostly use Windows for, no. If I'm running a compiler behind a verifying application, I want the minimized compiler to take absolute prior
54 Post contains images Klaus : I don't have the numbers right now, but contrary to popular belief the iPod success hasn't really overwhelmed the very healthy development of Apple's
55 Klaus : How complicated! Under MacOS X I routinely run multiple processes which fully load both CPUs while the TV process is still happily running without sk
56 IFEMaster : Well that's great, and I experience exactly the same power as you do on my mac. But when you're developing applications for a Windows environment, an
57 Post contains images Klaus : Nope. Even if you need to use a Windows-only IDE for that, you can simply run Windows virtualized in a MacOS window or fullscreen or cross-boot into
58 IFEMaster : It's nothing to do with a Windows only IDE or dual boot systems, it's to do with real world testing of a Win API in a customer specified environment.
59 Klaus : Unless the customer demands you to use an exact specific PC model to develop on, the Mac will behave just like any other Core Duo PC with standard In
60 Post contains images AC773 : So clearly the only reason they're not using a Mac is because they just don't know about it...
61 Post contains images Aloges : Ohhhh.... the memories I have no idea what version DOS that 386 machine my brother and I got in the nineties ran. It was probably 6.something, but I
62 Braybuddy : I thing you guys lost me around reply 15 . . .
63 Post contains links and images Aloges : Oh... Hi, Jack! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pykFzWCtZeY
64 Klaus : Not the only one - but at this point most Windows users do indeed not know that a new option has just opened up which they've never really considered
65 KaiGywer : Good old Civilization?
66 Post contains images AC773 : I was being sarcastic.
67 IFEMaster : I already stated that the customer has specified the development environment. It's a contractual matter. I can and have and I'm sure will in the futu
68 Post contains images BHMBAGLOCK : Windows 2.0 runtime edition - what a steaming pile of sh*t! See above noob! Apple DOS in 1978 for me - DOS 1.0 was 1980. The scary thing is that I ev
69 Klaus : If that actually includes make and model of the computer to be used for development of the software instead of operating system, drivers and applicat
70 Aloges : You bet!
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