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Should Oz Host The Soccer World Cup?  
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

I think Oz could be a very good host for soccer World Cup, anyone else agree?

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User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2670 times:

Totally agree, soccer is on the up in Australia with the fairly new 'A League' that they have now, some top stadiums in Australia too, after the success of putting on the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, i can see them putting on a very good world cup also!

Glenn



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Quoting Alessandro (Thread starter):
anyone else agree?

No, I hated it when the Football World Cup was hosted in Korea/Japan, the ganes were way to early - because of the time difference - and I didn't follow them at all because I had to work.

Ok, that was maybe a little bit too selfish but I have to say that I always love it when the World Cup is hosted in the same (or nearly the same) time zone than Germany is in, so I am glad that South Africa is the next host.  Wink

I hope for a South or Central American host in 2010, people there are also football crazy and the games would start at late evening here in Germany.

I would have no problem with a World Cup in Australia when someone would sponsor me an airline ticket and a few tickets for the stadiums.  Wink

Patrick


User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

I don't see why not. The U.S. hosted a WC when the sport was in a dormant state there and it looks like the sport is in a better shape in Australia than it was in the U.S. when they hosted it so I'd say Oz is ripe for the picking. Although the kick-off times would seriously suck.  yuck 

User currently offlineCoTXDFW777AA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

I think they will be choosing all the host sites with a symbolic weight from now on. South or Central america is next, a half assed bid from this region would beat out basically anything.


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User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5855 posts, RR: 39
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2640 times:

we've got the facilities, we've got the peoples interest and the game is the 2nd most participated sport after swimming. You'd be attracting 105000+ to games at the MCG, 100000+ at Olympic Stadium and 45-60000 at other grounds around Australia.

If FIFA want's the games to succeed in this part of the world then it's only natural that we host it at some stage.



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User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3375 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 2):

I hope for a South or Central American host in 2010, people there are also football crazy and the games would start at late evening here in Germany.

South Africa is hosting it in 2010 and I believe that FIFA would like it in South America in 2014. Its most likely going to be in Brazil or Argentina then but the loaction hasn't yet been determined.



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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 6):
South Africa is hosting it in 2010 and I believe that FIFA would like it in South America in 2014.

Thanks for the correction! My bad!

Patrick


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13113 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2607 times:

I am quite sure FIFA would like the 2014 WC in South American too, and Brazil would the best choice as they are a large country, with plenty of venues, sufficient tourist infrastructure and a better economy long term than Argentina. It has been far too long since Central/South American has held the WC and it is there turn.

User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

Quoting Alessandro (Thread starter):
very good host for soccer World Cup,

Australia would be a terrible and poor choice for a soccer world cup.

.

A football World Cup, Australia would be a nice choice.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 8):
I am quite sure FIFA would like the 2014 WC in South American too, and Brazil would the best choice as they are a large country, with plenty of venues, sufficient tourist infrastructure and a better economy long term than Argentina

I agree on all except the economic part. Both countries have somewhat similar economic performance in the last 10 years but in the last 20 Argetina has grown about 1/5 more than Brazil.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2595 times:

Australia would be an ideal host. We have the facilities, we have the experience, would easily get public support and all we need is government and corporate support. Soccer is on the up here and hosting the World Cup would only help things.

Quoting Derico (Reply 9):
A football World Cup, Australia would be a nice choice.

We did. It was in 2003 and England were the unfortunate winners. In Australia "Football" has about four different meanings.


User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3375 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

Quoting Derico (Reply 9):
Australia would be a terrible and poor choice for a soccer world cup.

Give it up, I know its logical to call it football but North America and even in Australia its called soccer and thats just a habit thats isn't going anywhere but we have a different sport called football and even though the feet is rarely used its not going to ever change.



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User currently offlineTBCITDG From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 921 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2580 times:

Time to bring the cup down under. After all it would be the first time ever for the cup to be hosted in Oceania!!

User currently offlineBartiniMan From Australia, joined Jul 2001, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 2):
No, I hated it when the Football World Cup was hosted in Korea/Japan, the ganes were way to early - because of the time difference - and I didn't follow them at all because I had to work.

Now you know how we feel every 4 years. So far in this WC the only decent match times were the 15:00 kick-offs, which was 23:00 local our time. Now that its elimination rounds all matches start at 1am or 5am.

'98-France = same problem as now
'06-Germany= same problem
'10 South Africa = same problem

Korea/Japan was great for our viewing times.

Hopefully if Australia hosts it in 2018, football will be the number 1 game followed in Australia, and maybe for once there will be something other than AFL covered in Newspapers, News, Sports Show, and general public crapping on about AFL.

Just FYI, pre-World Cup, the Newspapers here only ever had 1 or half a page dedicated to local/international football. And the news only ever showed 8 second clips of EPL highlights, which was only showed after 20mins of AFL coverage about how this guy scrathched his balls or about how that guy picked his nose. Disgraceful.
There is only one channel here (SBS free-to-air) that covers football. SO for football fans like me, football coverage in Australia in the past has been pitiful.

For Aussies:
I read that Eddie McEverywhere tried sealing the rights to all the World Cup matches for his crappy Channel 9. Reading that pissed me off so much, never before has he, or his Network, given a beattle's dick about Football, and then he tries getting the rights to cover the WC. Thank god Channel 9 didn't get the contract, otherwise we would have been left with pathetic uneducated commentory by Channel 9's sports team, who have'nt a farken clue what they're talking bout. Stick to AFL and Collingwood Eddie

I feel better now.


User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3375 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 2):
No, I hated it when the Football World Cup was hosted in Korea/Japan, the ganes were way to early - because of the time difference - and I didn't follow them at all because I had to work.

Yes this sucked even more for me as the games were on even earler in the morning. South America would be great because the time zones are roughly the same as Canada. I rememver the final being on at 7am in 2002 and dozing while hearing the commentary.



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

Quoting TBCITDG (Reply 12):
Time to bring the cup down under. After all it would be the first time ever for the cup to be hosted in Oceania!!

Except that in football terms Australia is now part of Asia, not Oceania, and thus must win as an Asian bid.

Quoting BartiniMan (Reply 13):
Now you know how we feel every 4 years

Indeed, but in reality Australia isn't important to FIFA in this regard. The big TV audiences are in Europe and South America. These two markets are the ones that matter in terms of TV revenue, advertising and so on and so forth. Holding a World Cup in Australia would be death for television in these markets.

No-one would doubt for a moment that Australia would hold an excellent World Cup, but would FIFA want to risk all that lovely money? That's why South Africa works as a venue - matches are at reasonable times in both Europe and South America, plus the growing market of Africa.

Football fans would undoubtedly get up at all hours to watch the games involving their teams, but that's not the point. What they wouldn't do is get up at all hours to watch all the games.



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User currently offlineMelpax From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 1619 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 5):
we've got the facilities, we've got the peoples interest and the game is the 2nd most participated sport after swimming. You'd be attracting 105000+ to games at the MCG, 100000+ at Olympic Stadium and 45-60000 at other grounds around Australia.

A World Cup final at the MCG would be fantastic!

Us Aussies know how to put on large events - Sydney Olympics in 2000, Rugby world cup in 03 & the Commonwealth games in Melbourne back in March. Melbourne also stages regular large events - the AFL grand final & the Formula 1 grand prix are 2 that come to mind.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 2):
No, I hated it when the Football World Cup was hosted in Korea/Japan, the ganes were way to early - because of the time difference - and I didn't follow them at all because I had to work.

We've had to put up with this for years - about time you guys suffered! Most of my office have been half-asleep for the past couple of weeks!



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User currently offlineZen100 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

They should never be given it. Germany was a good candidate, because, they obviously have rehabilitated themselves from the evil they done in the past. Firstly they had the Olympics in 2000, so they have hosted a event in recent times. Secondly, they are much more countries where football has a history, that deserve it more. Brazil, Argentina, Mexico. Though Mexico last hosted it in 1986, it's over 20 years now. What about countries that have never hosted a big event. Many countries have the ability to get it right, if they are given the chance.

Lastly and more importantly, a country that treats black minorities, stuffing them with alcohol, so they can corrupt them and steal their land, should be blacklisted. They have nothing to be proud of.

ProudQatari.

[Edited 2006-06-27 11:13:17]

User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

Quoting Melpax (Reply 16):
A World Cup final at the MCG would be fantastic!

I disagree   

Quoting Zen100 (Reply 17):
I don't think they should host it. Firstly they had the Olympics in 2000, so they have hosted a event in recent times.

So what if we have it just shows that we are good at hosting big events.

Quoting Zen100 (Reply 17):
Secondly, they are much more countries where football has a history, that deserve it more. Brazil, Argentina, Mexico. Though Mexico last hosted it in 1986, it's over 20 years now.

Korea and Japan hosted it in 2002 countries which have i don't think have had a real history in soccer up until the 2002 world cup.

Quoting Zen100 (Reply 17):
Lastly and more importantly, a country that treats black minorities, stuffing them with alcohol, so they can corrupt them and steal their land, should be blacklisted. They have nothing to be proud of.

Here you go again. How dare you speak about Australia like a country which you have never visited and with your attitude will never be welcomed. Have you heard of Mabo and Wick??

PROUD AUSTRALIAN

[Edited 2006-06-27 11:21:50]

User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

Actually now, after 2 thirds of the tournament over, the best solution would be to have Germany host the next 10 WCs or so...I guess nobody in his right mind would object, except the Engerlaender Holigans but since they are NEVER in their right mind, it would't matter anyway!


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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 19):
Actually now, after 2 thirds of the tournament over, the best solution would be to have Germany host the next 10 WCs or so...I guess nobody in his right mind would object, except the Engerlaender Holigans but since they are NEVER in their right mind, it would't matter anyway!

If this was the case the majority of the english supporters would move to Germany wouldn't they LOL.


User currently offlineZen100 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 18):
you attitude will never be welcomed

I said it before on here and I will say it again, there is nothing in 'Australia' for me to ever get excited about. It's not a place iI'm interested in. Compare it to place like Brazil, South Africa or even India, it's wet fish really.

ProudQatari


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5855 posts, RR: 39
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Quoting Zen100 (Reply 21):

I said it before on here and I will say it again, there is nothing in 'Australia' for me to ever get excited about. It's not a place iI'm interested in. Compare it to place like Brazil, South Africa or even India, it's wet fish really

good...we don't need you or your money..stay at home and watch on tv. considering nearly half the worlds population live in this region i'd say it's only fitting that Asia/Pacific hosts the world cup.



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 20):
If this was the case the majority of the english supporters would move to Germany wouldn't they LOL.

I strongly suspect the majority of the British policeforce, and nearly all of the nice people in Engerlaend (there ARE a few thousand, indeed!) would welcome this move....and there's no other country as well equipped AND historically experienced in dealing with such a bunch...and most of the East German Wall builders and guards are still alive AND available!!  Wink Big grin



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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 23):
I strongly suspect the majority of the British policeforce, and nearly all of the nice people in Engerlaend (there ARE a few thousand, indeed!) would welcome this move....and there's no other country as well equipped AND historically experienced in dealing with such a bunch...and most of the East German Wall builders and guards are still alive AND available!!

 rotfl   rotfl 


25 Zen100 : Amazing leap on these forums. Most of the time, you don't know where you stand with these people. It's nice to have clarity. The issue still remains,
26 Banco : That's an extraordinarily kind offer, Andreas. You wouldn't consider going the extra mile and taking all the Scots as well, would you?
27 Bill142 : We should and we will. USA hosted it and Soccer isn't huge there. By the time we get our chance, it will be 2018 or 2022 at the earliest. Will be 20
28 Andreas : Well actually, I've just been to the toilet and during that session had some time to think it through, and it occurred to me as well, that we could so
29 Soyuzavia : HAHA. Zen100, let me tell you straight up. I am part Aboriginal, so I am probably more qualified to talk on this issue. It is true that the Aborigina
30 Zen100 : If that is not indenturation, i don't know what is. So which is it then. The Indians or other Asians, in Qatar don't in my opinion fill the definitio
31 Post contains images Skyman : Super but I also don`t know what it is in English. Thueringen = Thuringia
32 Skyman : How about Mecklenburgvorpommern Mecklencastleinfrontofpommeria lol
33 Post contains images Andreas : I know, but I thought it is about time for the English hooligans (at least those on THIS Forum) to start learning about their new homes
34 BartiniMan : [ Thats right, give the World Cup to one of the "modern" Middle East countries, where women will be prohibited from attending matches and suicide atta
35 Scbriml : First up they need to bid and have a realistic chance of being able to deliver. The WC in Argentina in '78 (OMG was it really that long ago?) was fan
36 VH-KCT* : Haha, still the same old Zen: the one that we know and err... Talking rubbish, starting fights, and finishing his sentences with prepositions. But pl
37 Ryangooner : Australia undoubtably would put on a great show and it would be a pleasure to visit aussie land to watch the games at a decent time. Im not sure on th
38 Bill142 : BAHAHAHAHAHA... The games would be limited to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth. Maybe Canberra as we hosted some games of olympic socc
39 Post contains images 9V-SPF : I think it would be a great choice and maybe it would finally convince me to spend the money for a flight down to down under Another point, I´m prett
40 Post contains images Scbriml : Maybe because playing football in 45-50C would be a tad daft even by FIFA standards?
41 Oli80 : No And this is the reason. And that's why they gave it to them, to boost the sport's popularity over there. Did it work? No Lesson learned? Yes! I do
42 Swissgabe : No doubt they would. But I'm very happy that the first World Cup on the African continent will take place in 2010. It is time that this event finally
43 IFEMaster : I think Luxemburg should host 2014.
44 Swissgabe : How about the Faeroer Islands or Liechtenstein? Would be fun if such a team would qualify for the World Cup!
45 IFEMaster : Well in that case, how about Vatican City? I'm sure they could squeeze a stadium in and field 11 of their very own holinesses to take on the football
46 Bill142 : Then you can't call yourself the world game if your not prepared to take it to every part of the world.
47 Srbmod : And the hottest women in South America!!!!! PKB, glad he's gone......... Why not a joint Australia/New Zealand bid for the 2018 World Cup? 2002 showe
48 Alessandro : Well, soccer is big in Asia as shown in 2002, so I think it could be good for biz as well to host it in Oz/Nz in 2018.
49 Andreas : No, the only thing that 2002 clearly showed: Don't do it in 2 countries at the same time, and - remembering 1994 - do not let very large countries ho
50 VH-KCT* : This was a concern of mine. There are no towns in Australia like there are in Europe, just sprawling capital cities of 1 million plus inhabitants, an
51 VHVXB : You also have Aussie Stadium and the SCG here in Sydney which has a seating capacity of 40000 plus. Going pass Brisbane is going a bit too far, you h
52 Melpax : Geelong is only an hours drive from MEL - easy road & rail access also. No reason why people couldn't come down from Melbourne for the day & back aga
53 Post contains images Andreas : So do I, and it would probably be the final straw that'd bring me to travel to Australia and spend 5 weeks there (planning to do so since years, but
54 Banco : Not least because it's showing the real Germany to those who have stereotyped views. But I'm not surprised, Andreas. The one thing about holding a Wo
55 Andreas : Which is exactly my point: Sure, the Africans want it (and get it 2010), the Americans got it (1994), Korea/Japan did a good job, too, but in the end
56 Post contains images Banco : Not according to my Dutch friend who was still raging at the inability of the Dutch team to cheat with the same level of skill as the Portuguese. He'
57 Andreas : Actually the fact that some Dutch are actively contemplating to support our team is more than enough reason to NEVER EVER visit that horrible pisspot
58 Cornish : Just checked with my Dutch friend and he has said "Never in a million years" His one relief is that Germany and France aren't playing each other and
59 TSV : What on Earth is in Townsville that would shock the English? Townsville hosted a couple of RWC03 games as well. With a little bit of development (ove
60 Derico : -There are over 1000 new hotels being built in Argentina. -The entire passenger railroad system is coming back with improved trains, and Argentina's i
61 TSV : etc and you left out : - Argentina thinks it is part of Europe and not part of South America.
62 EZYAirbus : You knew it was in South Africa!
63 Bill142 : Sun.
64 Post contains images Banco : Pah. That's just a myth. Like the cassowary, no-one's ever really seen it.
65 QANTAS077 : that's nice...but we already have all of that and more
66 TSV : Wot didn't you get to see one on your Holiday/Honeymoon? If you didn't get to see one in the wild you should have gone up the road if you were in Cai
67 Post contains images Oli80 : I'm sorry to say this, but if we are discussing whether Argentina or Australia would be a better host, you would have to go with Argentina. I wouldn'
68 Post contains images Banco : Nope. Tramping through the Daintree all day, and not a sight nor sound. I don't believe they exist. I think you con tourists into wandering around in
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