Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 28 Posted (6 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 1324 times:
I do say that I like it.
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Architects in New York unveil new Freedom Tower
By Mark Egan and Joan Gralla 38 minutes ago
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The redesigned Freedom Tower at Ground Zero in Lower Manhattan, planned to become America's tallest building, will be a monolithic glass structure reflecting the sky and topped by a sculpted antenna, the architects said on Wednesday.
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Symbolic of the Declaration of Independence, the reworked 1,776-foot (541-meter) centerpiece of the World Trade Center site unveiled by architect David Childs will have a 186-foot tall (57 meter) base sheathed with rolled, heat-treated glass over concrete...
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 28 Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 1308 times:
Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 1): I wonder what strengthening measures they will put in place to help it withstand an aircraft strike.
I don't think any building will be able to withstand an aircraft strike like we saw on 9/11. However, the article describes numerous measures taken to protect it form a truck bomb or other similar attacks.
TWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 53 Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 1308 times:
I think it's a great design... I work across the street from the site and watch the construction/process daily (I'll post some pics here eventually). I think it'll be a really beautiful tower, and I'm glad they finally got their act together. #7 WTC, which opened last month, is also great.
My only wish: They build a second identical "Freedom Tower" next door....
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8357 posts, RR: 47 Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 1308 times:
I like it as well. The grandiose thing about the Twin Towers was their almost boring regularity, I've always hoped someone would try and continue that in some kind of way - seems like they did!
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Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 51 Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 1290 times:
Ohhhh big deal, 1,776 ft. Most people aren't going to look at the tower and say, "it's 1776 ft. so it reminds me of the Declaration of Independence." That is fluff reporting.
Who wants to bet the fire standards will be a lot higher?
Sorry to be such a skeptical sourpuss today, but flag-waving in the form of hyped-up architecture is still flag-waving.
TedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 1278 times:
I'm sorry, but I'm one of those bastards that thinks they should have rebuilt the towers as close to the same as they were. This "freedom tower" crap makes me want to
RJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 10 hours ago) and read 1256 times:
Quoting TedTAce (Reply 12): I'm sorry, but I'm one of those bastards that thinks they should have rebuilt the towers as close to the same as they were. This "freedom tower" crap makes me want to
Ctbarnes From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3491 posts, RR: 52 Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 9 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
I think the operative word here is monolithic. At least Childs did away with the previous design's "concrete bunker" look in favor of something that appears more inviting and less paranoid and defensive.
Nonetheless, IMHO, it's still a very bland structure dressed up in a lot of overhyped patriotism. OTOH, it could work as a metaphor for the war on terror.
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Bill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8320 posts, RR: 9 Reply 21, posted (6 years 11 months 9 hours ago) and read 1181 times:
Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 3): I don't think any building will be able to withstand an aircraft strike like we saw on 9/11. However, the article describes numerous measures taken to protect it form a truck bomb or other similar attacks.
You're right. But Steel Reinforced concrete will take much longer to fail then plain steel will. Combine this with wider fire escapes and the chances of evacuating a building are much higher. So while design plays an important role, the role of materials and techniques used to construct the building are equally important
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12335 posts, RR: 12 Reply 23, posted (6 years 11 months 7 hours ago) and read 1139 times:
One of the most important reasons for the '1,776' feet isn't so much the connections as to the founding of the USA, but rather the need for a TV and radio tower as high or higher than were on the former WTC due for proper reception for all areas of the NYC TV/Radio market.
I am concerned at with the need for ground level security set backs, which is why the plans had to be modified, that it won't look as nice at the ground level as at higher levels. The large glass area is nicer than the WTC and will still be a strong symbol for NY City.
BO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2759 posts, RR: 20 Reply 24, posted (6 years 11 months 5 hours ago) and read 1089 times:
I think it is a great design fit for a city like New York. If I was a resident I would visit the construction site each week to keep tabs on their progress.
From the renderings this building looks to be perhaps the most secure and protective office tower in the world once complete.
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25 NoUFO: Am I the only one who dislikes the "pin"?
26 Legoguy: Sorry for the stupid question, but which is taller? The old WTC buildings or the new Freedom Tower? What is the height difference?
27 Braybuddy: Looks very smart and distinctive. If New York wants to reclaim its very distinctive skyline it will need something like this to do so. When you see th
28 ANCFlyer: I like it . . . I'd prefer TWO of them . . . for nostalgia's sake, but I like it.
29 CPDC10-30: That is a bit of a misconception. The Petronas towers for example would have most likely have at least partially survived. They are almost pure concr
30 NoUFO: Why not as long as it's structure is made of concrete? This really is one ugly antenna ...
31 Cedarjet: Oh dear. In what way do you mean, "withdstand"? I think the WTC did as well as you could expect from any building. I mean, if you flew a 767 into the
32 ANCFlyer: Boo Frackin' Hoo. Pot Kettle Black perhaps? The good thing is, Cedarjet, you don't ever have to visit the place or look at it or anything . . . isn't
33 Leezyjet: Seems to me that this is all going ahead as a "look at the size of my d!ck" project. They have not even got anyone remotely interested in occupying th
34 Jaysit: Less iconic than the twin towers, but I suspect we will all grow to like it. In any case, lower Manhattan needs something to replace the WTC towers -
35 TWFirst: The new tower is taller due to the antenna. Hilarious, considering where you're from. Not saying you don't have a point, but guess what the genesis w
36 NoUFO: With "pin" I meant the antenna, not the building itself, although the building is a bit too tall and thus, in my opinion, does not really blend well
37 TWFirst: But that's the whole purpose... it's NOT supposed to blend in. The former Towers didn't blend in either. It's supposed to be a focal point...a landma
38 YooYoo: I thought the building did withstand the aircraft strike. Anyways.... I rather like the new building design.
39 ANITIX87: I agree, rebuilding the towers as before would have been the ultimate "f**k you" to those who doubt our country. They should not, however, have built
40 TWFirst: No, just in North America.... Towers in Dubai and Asia (Taipai 101 or the new Shanghai one) will still be taller.
41 Mir: I know they're not going to build two of them, but they should. Any city can have a tall building. New York had the Twin Towers. They can put all the
42 NoUFO: Well, you may be right, and after all, and in contrast to New Yorkers, I don't need to like the design.
44 Nancy: It's an ok looking building to me, but it also kind of looks like the world's biggest corn-on-the-cob holder too. The tacky gift shops will probably s
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