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ESPN: Ben Wallace Leaving Pistons For Bulls  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

No story yet, just a "breaking news" banner on the upper right of EPSN.com.

That'll make the Bulls instant contenders, and will probably put the Cavaliers as the favorites in the Central next year.

And it looks like the Pistons' run could be over.

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User currently offlineTpasxm787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

I heard today he was pissed with their offer and negotiations weren't going well.

Looks like he has found a new home quickly.



This is the Last Stop.
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

Rumor has it $52m for 4 years. Basketball players got to be the most overpaid in all of sports.

User currently offlineTpasxm787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1127 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
Rumor has it $52m for 4 years. Basketball players got to be the most overpaid in all of sports

baseball is up there too, but in the NBA, it seems like even players that have done nothing (see: Nene) are getting fat cash. $60M...didn't even average 10ppg.



This is the Last Stop.
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1121 times:

At least in baseball/hockey, one pays their dues in the minors, but in football/basketball giving big money to unproven players is just insane.

User currently offlineDeltaOwnsAll From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1120 times:

wow...weird yr for free agency so far. first peja bolting for $$ now Wallace, where's the loyalty? and yes, this just continues the trend of players being vastly overpaid in free agency lately. (especially bigs)

User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1109 times:

I'm not ready to hand the Cavs the division crown yet.....I'd like to think they'd win it by getter stronger, not by a division rival getting weaker.

That said, the Bulls are having an incredible week.....first scooping LSU's Tyrus Thomas via a draft day trade, now Big Ben. They won't be pushovers come next year.

And yes, NBA players are vastly overpaid.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineGQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1105 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 4):
hockey,

Hockey players make jack next to the NBA, MLB, and NFL...


User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1096 times:

Quoting DeltaOwnsAll (Reply 5):
first peja bolting for $$ now Wallace, where's the loyalty?

peja was traded, there is no loyalty with him.

As far as Wallace and the Bulls (which I'm a huge fan of), YEEESSS!!! Wallace @ Center, Thomas and Deng @ F, and Henrick and Gordon @ G,  biggrin 

Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 7):
Hockey players make jack next to the NBA, MLB, and NFL...

 checkmark  and it's a d@mn shame, too. They deserve more then any of the other three.



Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineDeltaOwnsAll From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1090 times:

Quoting Piercey (Reply 8):
peja was traded, there is no loyalty with him.

He was quoted as saying he'd "love" to stay in Indiana and that he was very impressed with the organization. New Orleans may have offered more money, but they also offered something else that Peja coveted: little chance at making the playoffs, so he doesn't have to worry about all that "pressure" again, lol.


User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7311 posts, RR: 85
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1086 times:
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Another reason the love da Bulls!...  yes 


I miss the old Anet.
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26605 posts, RR: 75
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1068 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
Rumor has it $52m for 4 years. Basketball players got to be the most overpaid in all of sports.

They actually make less now than they did in the mid to late 1990s because of the newer cap rules.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 4):
At least in baseball/hockey, one pays their dues in the minors, but in football/basketball giving big money to unproven players is just insane.

Um, in baseball and hockey, most of the players start playing in the minors out of high school and don't even go to college while all football players have to spend a minimum of 3 years in college and there is now a college requirement for NBA players under the new CBA (also, even with all the high schoolers who came in the post Garnett/Bryant/O'Neal era, the vast majority of new players came from at least some college experience). The reason those kids play in the minors isn't to "pay their dues" it is to develop into men like NBA and NFL players do in college. Further, the NBA has the NBDL for players to develop if they aren't good enough for the NBA

Quoting Piercey (Reply 8):
and it's a d@mn shame, too. They deserve more then any of the other three.

While each sport can argue their relative merits (Baseball: most games, Football: most danger, most revenue, Basketball: most physically demanding, Hockey: blend of football and basketball) ultimately pay is driven by a combination of factors, the greatest of which is revenue drawn by the player. In this respect; baseball, football and basketball all kick hockey in the teeth. Further, the reason baseball players are the highest paid of any of the 4 is because baseball lacks a salary cap and instead resorts to revenue sharing and luxury taxes to attempt to level the playing field. Additionally, there is no major national baseball contract in the way the others, particularly basketball and football, do it, so baseball teams are forced to actually run the teams more as businesses.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1061 times:

Latest rumor has Tyson Chandler coming to the Hornets in exchange for JR Smith and PJ Brown. This trade would work for both sides, what with PJ nearing the end of his career, and both Smith and Chandler have underachieved.

So far this off-season the Hornets have made the most improvements, and that, combined with the strides made last season and they should have no problems making the playoffs next season.

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1055 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 11):
Um, in baseball and hockey, most of the players start playing in the minors out of high school and don't even go to college

Not true anymore, just checked out the roster of the Arizona Diamondbacks. Of the american born players only one didn't go to college and that was Shawn Green. Three went to community college, and other colleges include two each to the University of Kentucky and San Diego State, then other schools include Florida State, Mississippi State, Houston, Norte Dame, Long Beach State, California, East Carolina, UCLA and South Alabama. According to the book "Moneyball" most teams today prefer drafting college kids, high school players are to much of an unknown. Checked out another random roster of the Colorado Rockies, four american born players didn't go to college, and there roster is mostly made up of North Americans (US and Canada).

[Edited 2006-07-04 17:08:15]

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1043 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 13):
Not true anymore, just checked out the roster of the Arizona Diamondbacks. Of the american born players only one didn't go to college and that was Shawn Green. Three went to community college, and other colleges include two each to the University of Kentucky and San Diego State, then other schools include Florida State, Mississippi State, Houston, Norte Dame, Long Beach State, California, East Carolina, UCLA and South Alabama. According to the book "Moneyball" most teams today prefer drafting college kids, high school players are to much of an unknown. Checked out another random roster of the Colorado Rockies, four american born players didn't go to college, and there roster is mostly made up of North Americans (US and Canada).

N1120A is wrong about something? I'm shocked!  Wink


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1027 times:

Quoting Piercey (Reply 8):
and it's a d@mn shame, too. They deserve more then any of the other three.

 Yeah sure

The worse part about this story is that a player who averages 6.6 points per game and shoots a pathetic 40% from the free throw line (a lot worse than Shaq) called a 49.6 million dollar offer from the Pistons "disappointing". Riiiiiiight. I know dude is a monster on the boards and a great defender but get real. I hope this move backfires for the Bulls in a big way.


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