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Good Luck Space Shuttle Discovery / STS-121  
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Posted (8 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2055 times:

Well, the shuttle should launch in just over 1 hour.  Smile

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5146866.stm

I hope you will all join with me in wishing the crew good luck, a good mission, and a safe trip home Big grin



Lee


Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2055 times:

Columbia was the perfect opportunity to retire the out of date, too heavy, expensive, pointless and unsafe shuttle. Let's just hope NASA can have a new vehicle launched before the shuttle claims even more lives.

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2055 times:

Here's NASA's live television feed.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html


User currently offlineYYZflyer From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 3643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2030 times:

I wish the crew of STS-121 good luck in their mission and a safe trip home.

What a fun day for americans, a shuttle launch and fireworks at night.  Smile



Avoid hangovers, stay drunk.
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2030 times:

Quoting YYZflyer (Reply 3):
What a fun day for americans, a shuttle launch and fireworks at night

Yes, I wish I was there Big grin



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20394 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2017 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 1):
the out of date, too heavy, expensive, pointless and unsafe shuttle.

"I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth. No single space project in this period will be more impressive to mankind, or more important for the long-range exploration of space; and none will be so difficult or expensive to accomplish. We propose to accelerate the development of the appropriate lunar space craft.

... But in a very real sense, it will not be one man going to the moon-if we make this judgment affirmatively, it will be an entire nation. For all of us must work to put him there."


- John F. Kennedy, May 25, 1961

Space travel continues to be an impressive yet daring adventure, that will always carry an element of risk, but the benefits are far reaching.

Good flying to Discovery.



International Homo of Mystery
User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2008 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 1):
Let's just hope NASA can have a new vehicle launched before the shuttle claims even more lives.

Great slam against the people who are working so hard to make this a safe flight, I being one of them. Shame on you.



"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 weeks ago) and read 2008 times:

NASA926 was cruising around Cape Canaveral at 60000 feet. I assume he's checking the weather. It's a WB57.

http://mek.kosmo.cz/pil_lety/usa/sts/sts-114/wb57.jpg


User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 weeks ago) and read 1987 times:

Good luck to all the crew onboard STS-121!

DC-10


User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21415 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

Good luck!  bigthumbsup 

User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Hey thanks for the link Lee.

I'm watching the launch now but just a quick question. Did I just hear the pilot was R. Kelly? Is this a remix to ignition ?

All the best to Discovery.



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1956 times:

Godspeed, STS-121!

Quoting dumb a.net 'Post is too short' message:
Your post should be relevant to the topic discussed.



Aviation is proof that given, the will, we have the capacity to achieve the impossible.
User currently offlineSean377 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1225 posts, RR: 41
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

Good luck from me too. I'll be watching it live on TV.


Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man... Landing is the first!
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Well, 30 mins to go  Smile



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 13):
Well, 30 mins to go

You lie, it's 27 mins to go.



One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 14):
You lie, it's 27 mins to go.

Well, you are the smartass after all  Wink



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 14):
You lie, it's 27 mins to go

Wrong. It's 26 minutes.  Smile


User currently offlineKevinL1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 48
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
Here's NASA's live television feed.

CSPAN has it as well.



474218, Carl, You will be missed.
User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1902 times:

My prayers go with them!!!

Good Luck!!

Phyllis  bouncy 


User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

Counting Down Big grin

T minus 8  bigthumbsup 



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

8 minutes in and everything is fine. Good luck and God Speed to the shuttle/crew for the rest of the mission.

Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 6):
Great slam against the people who are working so hard to make this a safe flight, I being one of them. Shame on you.

Just ignore him, Aerobalance. He's trying to get attention by pissing people off. Ignore the jackass like most others are.




-NWA742


User currently onlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21415 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

Tank is away... have a good flight and a successful mission!

User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

Well, off she goes Big grin

Was a fantastic takeoff Big grin

External tank seperation confirmed  Smile

Come back home safe guys  Smile



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

Impressive, very impressive. Just watched the takeoff on Fox News, good stuff.


One Life, Live it.
User currently offlineCVG777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1251 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

This makes me wish I was in Florida right now.

Godspeed Discovery! See you in two weeks!  bigthumbsup 

Mike


25 Post contains images YYZflyer : wrong, lift off has happened and they're now in space
26 AeroWesty : Picture perfect! WTG Discovery, NASA, and all those who made this possible.
27 Post contains links AsstChiefMark : You can track the shuttle and space station here: http://spaceflight1.nasa.gov/realdata/tracking/ You can also find out when you can see them passing
28 Mke717spotter : Great launch! The coolest part ndoubtly must have been when those main engines fired up! Man that was cool!
29 Post contains images Vaporlock : dido Phyllis
30 Traindriver : I'm down in the southern end of Brevard County and it was somewhat cloudy down here. However, we did get to see the launch fly over the house for abou
31 Sprout5199 : Was great here in Palm Beach County. Saw the "Rockets' Red Glare" real good. Nice way to celebrate the Fourth. Good Luck and Godspeed Dan in Jupiter
32 777236ER : It's not a slam against the engineers, or a slam against the space programme. I support the US space programme more than most. I wish more money were
33 AeroWesty : When the shuttle is described as "pointless", as you did in your original post, I'm sure how you can see how that could be taken by others. It does s
34 Christa : Godspeed on a safe journey to the ISS and on a safe return to Earth. Regards, Chris
35 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Yes, 13 successful payloads. No flaws eh? Well, let's see, Apollo 1...granted, not on a Saturn V, and not lost due to launch vehicle? So what? That c
36 777236ER : If you're going to be arsey about it, fine. Apollo killed three astronauts. The shuttle programme has killed fourteen. That's four and a half times a
37 ThereAndBack : I couldn't agree with you more.
38 Post contains links and images FXramper : Hey everyone, a lady I work with at the FX AUS rampsent me these pics. Her brother and sister fly F16s and F15s in the Air Force. Vicki sent me these
39 Myt332 : That aside, they knew the risks and they go willingly.
40 777236ER : Nonetheless, the space programme should be as safe as possible. It is less safe now than in the late 60s.
41 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Again...orbiters seat more astronauts than Apollo...it's like saying a 747 is a death trap in comparison to an ERJ-145 because of how many would be k
42 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Great Shots Drew Don't you ever quit? Lee
43 777236ER : No. Using that analogy, it's like airliners in the 1910s having better reliability, seat belts, fire extinguishers and less crew than airliners today
44 777236ER : I'll give you another example of modern day NASA blundering. They're planning on using SRBs for a stage (the first one?) of the proposed Ares V launch
45 Post contains images Boeing4ever : That's the point, they don't...but they also carried less, and flew much, much less. But again, if an A380 should crash, it's 555 people dead in stan
46 Post contains links 777236ER : And yet no Saturn Vs were lost in flight. This isn't about the number of people the vehicles hold. This is about inherent safety. After too much time
47 Post contains images Boeing4ever : After a mere 13 flights, no Shuttles were lost either... Making sure a vehicle that's about to leave the earth is ready is too much time and money? I
48 777236ER : According to NASA, yes. Read the Columbia report. But the shuttle missions are 30 years after the Apollo missions! You have to resort to dubious stat
49 Pbottenb : Hey thanks - youve ruined a great thread.! Something pretty cool and newsworthy is done by an international group of adventurers and a thread is star
50 777236ER : I'm sure they don't care whether some people on a Swedish airliners praise them or not. I never bitch about the crew. I merely pointed out what has b
51 DfwRevolution : And we've flown ten times as many Shuttle flights as we've had Apollo. Had we stopped the Shuttle program after mission #13, we never would have lost
52 Post contains images Pbottenb : blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....Perhaps instead of being negative you could use your considerable spaceflight experince to provide al
53 Post contains images Boeing4ever : And a similar report about cost led to Apollo's end. Guess what, we're gearing up for Ares...gee, interesting. STS's days ARE numbered either way...s
54 777236ER : Sorry, wrong. The idea of using the LEM as a lifeboat had been worked out in the simulator, before the mission. The problem is the shuttle never matc
55 Post contains images Syncmaster : Yup - very unsafe. With a 115 flights under the shuttles belt I wouldn't exactly call it unsafe. Space travel in general is unsafe, but it will never
56 777236ER : While we're on the subject of Ares, I'll be you a fair amount of money that the CEV will have 1. an escape tower of some sort and 2. an enclosed heats
57 777236ER : Next time, before you start to insult me, learn to spell mammogram.
58 CO7e7 : How many hours is the flight from earth to outer space ?
59 DfwRevolution : And the vehicle NASA lobbied for could have accomplished that with 70s technology. NASA only wanted a winged capsul that could ferry 4-5 astronauts a
60 AsstChiefMark : About 10 minutes
61 Post contains images Boeing4ever : The Shuttle's days are numbered as the next generation of space vehicles is in the works...have you forgotten this. Yet I don't see fit to trash the
62 777236ER : No, we don't. But the two facts are firstly that two shuttle flights have had unrelated fatal problems, and secondly there are design flaws with the
63 777236ER : And had the pogoing ever caused significant problems, the engines could be throttled, shut down, or the crew could do a reasonably safe abort. Compar
64 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Again, a "reasonably safe abort" while traveling many freaking times the speed of sound... hmmm, heatshield damage...like almost occured on Apollo 13
65 JBirdAV8r : Sad to see yet another good thread hijacked by 777236ER. Back on topic of "good luck Discovery"! I think the Canberras are more of an imagery platform
66 777236ER : After max Q, the dynamic pressure would be dropping off. Orbiting the earth, the shuttle is travelling at many times the speed of sound, in releation
67 777236ER : It's a discussion forum, for crying out loud.
68 Post contains images AndrewUber : Earth orbit is not exactly "outer space", and as mentioned earlier it's a very brief trip. NASA says space "technically" begins at an altitude of aro
69 Syncmaster : Yup because you have never made one spelling error in your life. I forget you are perfect.
70 IFEMaster : Unfortunately, a comment like that exemplifies that lack of pioneering and conquesting spirit that exists the space program these days. Here's a bett
71 IFEMaster : Sorry for the double post, but... Sorry, wrong. The idea of using the LEM as a lifeboat had been floated around before, but never simulated, never wor
72 Post contains images NoUFO : Most likely, yes. The shuttle has more than two design flaws: - SRBs - Heat shield exposed to falling debris - Escape and RTLS abort procedure. Yes,
73 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Challenger broke AROUND max Q. Stuff can go wrong before or at it, so either way, an abort is still risky... You're not in this to cause trouble on t
74 777236ER : I never said anything about the complete Apollo 13 scenario being simulated. Nonsense. A comment like mine is sensible. Just because spaceflight is d
75 IFEMaster : You mean just like that comment by Gus Grissom was nonsense too? If you say so. Clearly NASA need to hire you as you're obviously the one with the mo
76 Post contains images Boeing4ever : You're debating safety culture at NASA now. Your original point was that the shuttle was a poorly designed death trap from the get go. Yes, the O-rin
77 Post contains links and images BMIFlyer : Well, looks like the mission is going good Discovery Finally docked with the ISS last night.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5154396.stm
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