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User currently offlineBA747YYZ From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

I was just watching something on TV about the heat wave in southern England, and that got me thinking, about why every time they have a heatwave in Europe they have deaths. How widespread is Air Conditioning in British and European Homes, Offices, and cars?

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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

A heatwave in England usually means temperatures above 25C for more than two days, and no rain, and means that pallid English people lie around in public parks without shirts on and get sunburnt, which while painful, is rarely fatal.

User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1237 times:

Quoting BA747YYZ (Thread starter):
heat wave in southern England

The north too!

Quoting BA747YYZ (Thread starter):
How widespread is Air Conditioning in British and European Homes, Offices, and cars?

We don't have it in our homes which drives me crazy. All we have generally is central heating and super insulated houses that traps the heat in!

However, we have a/c in shops, offices and in our cars as an option like everywhere else.



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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

Quoting BA747YYZ (Thread starter):
How widespread is Air Conditioning in British and European Homes, Offices, and cars?

In Homes it is uncommon, even in new ones - in the UK we generally don't need it for more than a few days and nights a year, which doesn't really justify the expense of fitting and running aircon.

In offices it is more common - I think all modern offices have it now for employee comfort (and perhaps some health and safety rules as well), particularly as most offices depend on computers, which put out considerable heat themselves!

In cars it is generally an optional extra, except in marques considered top of the range (and even then base models often lack it!). Again, like with homes, it isn't huggely neccesary most of the time. While cars do warm up if left in the sun, opening a window is generally effective. Though it is becoming a lot more common to have air-con now, but mainly in larger cars and sporty models.



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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
25C for more than two days

At cranfield airport were ive been for the last few days its been 29'c but thunderstorms are expected tomorow with highs of 21'c but then gets warmer again for the rest of the week. We had Prob30 +TSRN (heavy thunderstorms and heavy rain) which eventually happened at about 1625

Rgds --James--

[Edited 2006-07-05 00:05:06]


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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

There's lots of places in Canada and the US that generally don't have AC. In Thunder Bay, nobody had AC...we didn't often need it. And here in Seattle few people have it either. In Toronto, you definitely need it!


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User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

It's been around 32C here recently, well above average for this time of year  Smile

Not many homes here have air con...

From the BBC:

A heatwave in north-west Europe three years ago caused 27,000 extra deaths.

In London, there was a 60% rise in the number of those aged over 75 who died.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/5144490.stm


User currently offlineKazzie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1225 times:

today it was 32, and then around mid afternoon a pretty harsh storm... same expected 2moz... oh joy more stickiness!

User currently offlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2003 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1192 times:

Quoting Kazzie (Reply 7):
oh joy more stickiness!

Wow! I though we were going to keep that quiet!  duck 

[Edited 2006-07-05 00:29:34]


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User currently offlineBA747YYZ From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1173 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Reply 2):
We don't have it in our homes which drives me crazy.

Why not get a window unit?

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 5):
In Toronto, you definitely need it!

For at least 2 months of the year.

Thanks all for the info!


User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1155 times:

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 5):
In Toronto, you definitely need it!

April, your right we need it in Toronto as the air quality and humidity get really bad. It's been hot here and we are now starting to get some pretty heavy duty thunder storms....but for the smart ones they head North like we did this past weekend....and April I though of you and Mr. Harlot while we stood at the top of the forestry tower in Parry Sound.....it was amazing!!!

Phyllis  bouncy 


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1150 times:

Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 9):
Why not get a window unit?

Every year I think about getting one. Every year the heatwave is over before I get round to it.

In truth, it's just not necessary except on half a dozen nights a year.



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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1139 times:
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The heatwaves we get only last for a week or so, the 2003 heatwave lasted a week, not justifying installing expensive air conditioning systems in houses. I have a tower fan next to my bed blasting away through the night, and air conditioning in my car, so this is enough in helping to cope with the heat.
The heatwave should be over for the time being, we had a massive thunderstorm with cherry-sized hailstones yesterday afternoon.



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1134 times:

Don't cars in the UK have 90/4 air-conditioning?


Whereby you go 90kph and roll down all 4 windows?

 Wink



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11572 posts, RR: 61
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1134 times:

Also instead of just installing the quick fix air conditioning there is much more investment being put into sustainable heating & cooling. The design of new homes and offices to helps them heat up quickly during the winter using just human body heat given off and to cool down just as quick during the summer using ventilation and controlled cool air flows.

Today though it has been very hot, I played cricket for most of it out in the baking sun and then wrapped it all up with a nice BBQ. When one of my friends left at 10:30 his in car temp was still reading 20C, and I'm sat here with a fan blasting at me to keep cool.

Still though, I hope it lasts bigthumbsup 

Dan Smile



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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 60
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1134 times:

Too hot today, and still tonight as well.

Windows open at home and i'm still sweating like a prisoner on death row  Sad



Lee



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 13):
Don't cars in the UK have 90/4 air-conditioning?

Funnily enough, air conditioning is standard in virtually every car in Britain, yet many cars in the much warmer southern European nations don't have it. Explain that one.



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8617 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

Quoting BA747YYZ (Thread starter):
How widespread is Air Conditioning in British and European Homes, Offices, and cars?

In homes it is virtually unheard of, stores and offices in my area - which gets extremely hot, humid and calm summers by European standards - are beginning to offer it with notable frequency and cars usually carry it, except if you buy true bread-and-butter models or really small cars. As for the latter, I think most people have realised it's actually safer to have air condition in your car since you can concentrate a lot better at 22°C than at 32°C.

"Extremely hot, humid and calm" means 35°C, a river cutting right across the city and no wind at all to very slow winds for most of the day.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
English people lie around in public parks without shirts on and get sunburnt, which while painful, is rarely fatal.

Such a shame really...  duck   Wink



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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1115 times:

Quoting Vaporlock (Reply 10):
we stood at the top of the forestry tower in Parry Sound.....it was amazing!!!

Oh Phyllis...my Northern Ontario girl! That must have been absolutely beautiful.  Smile



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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1077 times:

Well that Brit heat wave hasn't spread over to Eire as we still have 15 degrees in the morning rhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !

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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1057 times:

Lol I ran into some London chicks when I was in Koh Samui a few weeks back. They were complaining about the heat in Australia. I was kind of consfused as may/june aren't known to be hot months in Australia and Thailand is hotter in June then Australia... hmm.. odd...

User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5520 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1051 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 20):
Lol I ran into some London chicks when I was in Koh Samui a few weeks back. They were complaining about the heat in Australia. I was kind of consfused as may/june aren't known to be hot months in Australia and Thailand is hotter in June then Australia... hmm.. odd...

haha lol.
Well i wonder how many of the Barmy Army supporters are gonna come down to Australia to watch the cricket in the Summer where it is 30C+ nearly everyday


User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1026 times:

Quoting ScarletHarlot (Reply 18):
Oh Phyllis...my Northern Ontario girl! That must have been absolutely beautiful.

April....it was amazing.....here is a picture we took high above the trees...and believe me it was so nice and cool up in the old forestry tower....the wind was blowing and the float planes were landing below....a great way to spend part of the day cooling off!!

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Phyllis  bouncy 


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1021 times:

I had Air con installed in my house in London last month in one bedroom and the lounge. Makes a huge difference. In cars it is standard unless you buy a cheap car.


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User currently offlineGDC2006 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1014 times:

Yesterday and today are my days off this week and its been baking for both of them, in fact its just too hot for the time being outside whch is why I am inside.

Unfortunately for me I am a typical pallid sickly looking Brit that burns if exposed to temperatures slightly above freezing for more than a few minutes!!

However I love the sun, the heat and the atmosphere it creates but we just don't have enough of it to learn how to effectively manage it.

So I'll be back in the office tomorrow moaning about my sunburn, despite the factor 35 suncream! Camping this weekend as well, I'll look like a boiled lobster by Monday thats for sure!

GC  Cool



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25 Post contains images Vaporlock : Camping is great....and yes, usually everyone gets sunburn especially if the weather is good!!!! LOL As far as sunblock...all you can do is keep putt
26 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Well, Currently 26C here in Hull Lee
27 Post contains images Gkirk : 33C here on the Costa del Solway
28 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Jammy Sod Lee
29 Post contains images Gkirk : Hawd yer wheesht bawbag! Yer claimed!
30 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Mind you I guess the good weather is all that IS good about the Solway Forth eh? Lee
31 Post contains images Cornish : Until JGP stands in the way and everyone gets excited thinking its an eclipse
32 Post contains images Gkirk :
33 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Well, I guess it hasn't lasted, just over 20C here, overcast and raining. Still, it'll keep the garden fresh, my grass needs it! Dan
34 Post contains images Pilotdude09 : HAHAHAHAHA no offence but that is funny!! Thats what it is here in winter, and in summer its the overnight temp!! geez and comming from one of the co
35 Kazzie : A - We are not used to the heat like you B - British heat is different, its extremely Humid C - Overcasts are not as often as made out though today i
36 Post contains images Jaspike : Ermmm ok. Didn't say it was amazingly hot, or fairly cool.. Just stating what it has been
37 JGPH1A : Don't you mean when I sit down. After all, the sun shines out of my arse - at least I think it does. :-P Peeg from 'ell !!
38 Banco : It could certainly fit....
39 Post contains images Gkirk :
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