LHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2676 times:
He wasn't yet in prision. He was awaiting sentencing. And he was no fallen hero, rather a symbol of corporate greed and arrogance. I don't think people wanted him dead (ex Enron workers, maybe) but few will shed any tears.
"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2651 times:
Quoting GDC2006 (Reply 4): What is the mood over in the US like about Ken Lay?
A fallen hero or simply a criminal?
He's a criminal who defined the worst stereotypes of excess and fraud. He served himself to the highest level of luxury and comfort at the expense of people to whom he returned no value in the end while lying to them.
Quoting LHMARK (Reply 6): I don't think people wanted him dead (ex Enron workers, maybe)
There's some former stockholders and pensioners who may be irritated that he went 'too easy'. See Sliders comments.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13115 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2563 times:
It's too bad he didn't die in a jail or some flea infested cheap hotel on the bad side of Houston. Many hope he had a deeply painful heart attack, but most probably he died in his sleep.
The house in Aspen as well as all but a tiny amount of his assets (for his wife's retirement funds) should go to the retired employees of Enron who lost their pensions.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2555 times:
Quoting DL021 (Reply 2): There will be some schadenfreude going on here, but I feel bad for his family.
I don't, I hate to say. They lived in lavish comfort because of his crimes. While others had their whole life savings wiped out, this guy and his family STILL had millions to live on. I don't feel sorry for them at all. They knew what he was-a thief-and they enjoyed life because of it.
Quoting ZakHH (Reply 3): I don't intend to sound tasteless, but if he was convicted, how could he die in Aspen? Do they have a prison there?
He was awaiting sentencing, so he remained free, which is not unusual.
Well, looks like the Good Lord exacted his own sentence on him, and he's having to explain himself today, before taking the elevator to the bottom floor.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2512 times:
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 20): Quoting Pope (Reply 19):
Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
CNN reports in breaking news that it has confirmed that former Enron Chairman Kenneth Lay has died.
I'm surprised that nobody has blamed Bush or Cheney for this!
Give it time, someone undoubtedly will.
Their fault? Hardly. But Bush should be at the funeral. I mean, Bush did to shareholders at company that he was at what Lay did at Enron. On a smaller scale, but he still made off with about 600 thou with his rip-offs.
Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 23): Their fault? Hardly. But Bush should be at the funeral. I mean, Bush did to shareholders at company that he was at what Lay did at Enron. On a smaller scale, but he still made off with about 600 thou with his rip-offs.
Pope - See, I told you!
: Hellooooooooooo! Halls? Did you not read the first 3 words? Let me put them in bold and in caps. "THEIR FAULT? HARDLY." It's NOT Bush's fault, Sherlo
: Who says he really died? He could be in some sort of witness/rebuilding program from the US Government. Probably he had some 'too-hot-to-handle' issue
: It's like fishing in a stocked pond. You throw the bait and they bite every time.
: I would get paid for that funeral upfront!
: And no need to cremate as he is already going to HELL!
: If that is in fact the case (which I'd bet my life savings it isn't), I'm amazed it took that long. What baffles me is that his wife apparantly owns
: I wish he would have got sentenced and taken away in irons first. A few years in prison, and then a heart attack so we don't have to feed him. It woul
: I thought his wife had a consignment shop in the Houston area that she was selling off stuff?
: The name was Jus' Stuff not sure if it still operates or not?
: Not as suspicious as THIS Enron death http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/04/10/eveningnews/main505845.shtml
: Unfortunately, all you got back was algie, Pope, because you're not bright enough, apparently, to READ WHAT I WROTE!
: I read it right. You tried to qualify what was an an indirect slam at Bush, and now you are trying to wiggle your way out of it.
: No, you didn't read it right. Bush had nothing to do with it. Nothing. You seem to miss that part. But as for slamming Bush, it wasn't indirect-it wa
: And the liberal hypocrisy rears its ugly head once again. If I remember correctly there's a certain junior Senator from NY that made 300k on inside c
: Why should Bush be at his funeral? Was he an Enron employee or board member? Defendant in the Enron trial? For that matter, while I am glad Lay was c
: The Bush family had personal ties with the Lays that went back to GB senior. I can't imagine they'd risk the political fallout, though I've been wron
: ROTFL. I think you have it bass ackwards, Pope. And, pray tell, why did YOU bring up Bush's name in the first place? Well, we all know the Bush's and
: I have personal ties with people who die, and I don't always attend their funerals. Falcon's suggestion still makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe to see
: What do you mean for most of them? Nobody deserves what they got. You have no clue about ENRON'S compensation program. And not everyone knows much ab
: As an aside to all the money issues that people go thru, I have been a little surprise over the bad money thrown into the current real estate (ka)boo