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Fifa Launches Investigation Into Zidane Incident..  
User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Sorry folks, the other thread on Zidane was taking too long to load and I wanted to just narrow my World Cup comments to the Zidane/Materazzi incident. By now I am sure most of you all have heard that FIFA will launch a formal investigation into the Zidane incident, and according to the "Free" encyclopedia Wikipedia, Italy "could" lose their World Cup trophy!

Quite frankly, it's obvious that Italian soccer heading into the World Cup was in disarray for their confirmed illicit fixing of the top teams, and it would only be ironic poetic justice for FIFA to show they are serious against racism and take the trophy away from Italy. We all know that Materazzi slurred Zidane, he even admits it himself - but of course the debate will be was it racist or not and to what level of severity will FIFA actually levy?

Quote:

FIFA investigation
On July 11, 2006, FIFA declared its intent to officially investigate the incident with Zidane. An Amendment regarding discrimination to Art. 55, Par. 4 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code stipulates that "if any player, official or spectator publicly disparages, discriminates against or denigrates someone in a defamatory manner on account of race, colour, language, religion or ethnic origin, or perpetrates any other discriminatory and/or contemptuous act" and can be attributed to a certain team, the team in question faces deduction of points in the group stage resp. disqualification in the knockout stage.

The new provisions had been adopted on 28 March 2006 and may lead to the FIFA Executive Committee imposing harsh sanctions and even disallowing Italy's team the World Cup victory if Materazzi is convicted of having insulted Zidane with racial slurs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_Materazzi

Quote:

"I did insult him, it's true," Materazzi said in Tuesday's Gazzetta dello Sport. "But I categorically did not call him a terrorist. I'm not cultured and I don't even know what an Islamic terrorist is."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373723&cc=5901

So what does this say about Materazzi? A) he's guilty of insulting Zidane and it is evident that it must have been severe enough to Zidane that it resulted in him head butting him. Remember folks, racism isn't about what you think a word might mean to someone else, it's what it means to those who hear it. B) It also proves that either Materazzi is incredibly stupid (which I don't think is the case) or he is obviously dodging the truth (like a coward) by trying to assert that he has no idea as to what an Islamic terrorist is. Italy is one of the United States strongest European allies on the War on Terror - I'm going to go out on a limb here and call Materazzi on this - that's bullsh!t buddy.

Quote:
He added: 'For me the mother is sacred, you know that.'

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=373731&cc=5901

Even Materazzi acknowledges that there are of course boundaries when it comes to taunting and insulting on the pitch.

You have to ponder this - FIFA made significant attempts to curb racism in this latest World Cup yet when it came down to the final match, it seemed to be all to no avail. So what better way would FIFA have than to disqualify Italy and their style of play from the World Cup victory and blame it on racism? Do you think that might just be large enough to get people's attention on the issue?

Think about it - most people would probably generally still regard Italy as the champion anyways and the game is in the past - but FIFA has to be concerned about what it can do for the future of the game. While perhaps technically Italy would have the Cup title revoked for an ailment (racism) that we all know to be detriment to the vitality of the game and for that - what better way for FIFA to forever lay down the law for all to see and abide by for the future on out.

[Edited 2006-07-11 18:54:12]

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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3811 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

Quoting AirRyan (Thread starter):
I'm not cultured and I don't even know what an Islamic terrorist is.

Well, I knew that soccer players are not the brightest people, but this is hilarious.

It might even be true.

Soren  santahat 



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User currently offlineAirRyan From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2532 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

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Due to vandalism, editing of this article by anonymous or newly registered users is disabled (see semi-protection policy). Such users may discuss changes, request unprotection, or create an account.

Interesting that that part about FIFA investigation from above has in the last hour since been removed and the above disclaimer above now shown on the page; all it says now is that FIFA will investigate the incident. Who knows, but the premise of what Materazzi doing to Zidane remains the same - it was wrong and it should be intolerable when you play INTERNATIONALLY with people of varying religions, customers, and languages.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2038 times:

Quoting AirRyan (Thread starter):
Remember folks, racism isn't about what you think a word might mean to someone else, it's what it means to those who hear it.

1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.


People call out "racism" way too much these days, and need to stop crying about it. It creates a crying wolf effect for when there really is racism.

There was trash talking, and Zidane couldn't handle himself, and got what he deserved.

Harry



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13040 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

It is too bad that instead of the head butt, Zinane wasn't able to bring to the attention of a field offical of the beheavor of Materazzi so Materazzi could be red carded right then. Clearly Materazzi's slurs to Zinane were against the FIFA rules and he should have been penalized. Still, it was proper to red card Zinane for his stupid and irresponsible actions on the field. Maybe they should have red carded Materazz too. In American Football, if two players attack each other after the play is over and on or off the field, both could be suspended from the rest of that game or a future game.

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
Clearly Materazzi's slurs to Zinane were against the FIFA rules and he should have been penalized.

You can't get red carded for something the official didn't see or hear, can you?

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):

There was trash talking, and Zidane couldn't handle himself, and got what he deserved.

I'm completely with Monty (QANTAS077) If you start calling someone a terrorist or make racist remarks about them or their family. Expect to be eating through a straw for quite a number of days. I say strip Italy of their trophy. Show the world that NO ONE is exempt from FIFA rules on Racism.



Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12397 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2021 times:
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Even if Materazzi did use a racist taunt against Zidane, I can't see FIFA taking the World Cup away from Italy. The absolute maximum I can see them doing is handing Materazzi a 3-5 match ban and possibly taking away his winner's medal.


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

IF you were in Zidanes position.Would you complain to the Official when you can't prove Anything.I know the Reaction of Zid was Wrong.But I think I would have done the same this if I had heard some Verbal Raicist abuses against self or Family.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

BBC Radio Five Live asked for help from a deaf lip reader, Jessica Rees, who read the words phonetically to an Italian translator.

She deciphered the insult as being "you're the son of a terrorist whore" - a translation also carried by many national newspapers in Britain on Tuesday.

The BBC's Ten O'Clock News also called in experts to study the television footage of the incident and determined the following:

Materazzi's first word to Zidane was "no" before he then told him to "calm down".

He then accused him of being a "liar" and wished "an ugly death to you and your family" on the day the Frenchman's mother had been taken to hospital ill. This was followed by "Go f*** yourself".

Source: BBC Sport



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User currently offlineMatt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1971 times:

no one can ever prove what he said!

Zidane can tell everyone if he wants, but it'll make no difference!

how do we know that Zidane isn't just trying to make it sound like he had reason to do what he did!

i'm sorry but a few dodgy lip readers cant prove anything!


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 9):

I read that earlier and my first thought was 'So its true, you cant get two experts to agree on something'.

At the moment theres at least 5 or 6 different 'translations' of what was said floating around, all done by lipreading experts - if they cant agree on what was said, can any one of them be relied upon?

The words exchanged were between two people, the violence exchanged was for the whole world to see. Whatever Mazeratti said, violence is never the answer.


User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 11):
Whatever Mazeratti said, violence is never the answer.

Again, i reccomend a cold shower... wake up and get into the REAL world...



Whoever said "laughter is the best medicine" never had Gonorrhea
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

It seems that some people never left 3rd grade and can't handle name calling and trash talking. We will never know what he said to Zidane, but we all know what Zidane did.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1925 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 11):
Whatever Mazeratti said, violence is never the answer.

Correct.

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 12):
Again, i reccomend a cold shower... wake up and get into the REAL world...

Away he goes  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
People call out "racism" way too much these days, and need to stop crying about it. It creates a crying wolf effect for when there really is racism.

There was trash talking, and Zidane couldn't handle himself, and got what he deserved.

Finally somebody making some sense.

Quoting AirRyan (Thread starter):
and according to the "Free" encyclopedia Wikipedia, Italy "could" lose their World Cup trophy!

Oh yea, that may happen.  sarcastic 


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

lol, now they will take the cup from Italy?? this is getting out of hand.
If Maerazzi gets suspended, fine, but then I want to investigate every game in the last 10 years if there have been some insults between players.
And if they take the cup from us, I'm pretty sure France won't want to be undeserved winners.
Materazzi is an a$$, he has always been,. but this time Zizou failed more than Materazzi. Investigate all you want, keep on reading lips, do whatever you want, but nothing changes the fact that Zidane did not react as you would expect from a player of his category, and that Italy won the Cup.

regards  Smile



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 16):
but then I want to investigate every game in the last 10 years if there have been some insults between players.

Exactly. The only reason this is getting so much attention is because of the caliber of player Zidane was.

As a wrestler on a mostly white team in high school, you should have heard some of the messed up stuff I heard when we played some of the mostly black and hispanic teams in places like Rahway and Newark. Some fucked up stuff I heard on the mat, but you have to be the bigger man and shrug it off. I have felt like getting up and beating the shit out of the guy I was against sometimes, but I had restraint. I didn't want to get DQd and hurt the team.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Reply 14):
Away he goes



I can handle comments made against me or whoever i know once or twice, however if continually pushed i take physical action. I dont care who you are, keep pushing me and eventually i'll flip....



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User currently offlineMatt72033 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1617 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

Eto'o recieves racist taunts from fand and players week in week out in spain.....what does he do? headbutts people? no he walks off the pitch (or trys to anyway)

User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 18):
I dont care who you are, keep pushing me and eventually i'll flip....

Yes, I will too. But if you are the French soccer captain in the WC final, you must think, and say to yourself, "What are the consequences if I knock this guy out?" He obviously didn't, and payed the price.

Two guys insulting each others mommas' on some corner street and getting in a fight is not the same as a soccer pitch in front of billions.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26376 posts, RR: 76
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1882 times:

Quoting AirRyan (Thread starter):
and according to the "Free" encyclopedia Wikipedia

Awful source. When are people going to stop relying on it?

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
People call out "racism" way too much these days

Gee, I wonder why YOU would say that?

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 3):
There was trash talking, and Zidane couldn't handle himself, and got what he deserved

There is a point where trash talking crosses the line. Even FIFA recognizes that. If only people like you would.

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 5):
You can't get red carded for something the official didn't see

Actually, that is true and it means Zidane technically shouldn't have been red carded. FIFA does not use instant replay and the red card only came after one of the side officials saw the replay in the stadium, which Marcello Balboa correctly suggested should have never been shown in Olympiastadion.

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 13):
It seems that some people never left 3rd grade and can't handle name calling and trash talking.

Again, get over yourself. Hurling disgustingly racist remarks is not mere trash talking.

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 17):
As a wrestler on a mostly white team in high school, you should have heard some of the messed up stuff I heard when we played some of the mostly black and hispanic teams in places like Rahway and Newark.

And I am sure you said a bit of it too.



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1865 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
Gee, I wonder why YOU would say that?

Because YOU probably think I'm racist.  rotfl 

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
There is a point where trash talking crosses the line. Even FIFA recognizes that. If only people like you would.

Yes, but we don't what he said, and no matter what he said, Zidane overreacted.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
Actually, that is true and it means Zidane technically shouldn't have been red carded.

Technically, no, but the fact that he did, I don't have much sympathy for him.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
Again, get over yourself

Uh huh, right.  rotfl 

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
And I am sure you said a bit of it too.

Trashtalking? Yep, tons of it.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4964 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1859 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 21):
FIFA does not use instant replay and the red card only came after one of the side officials saw the replay in the stadium

AFAIK it was never shown in the stadium and that's why the crwod booed at the ref after the incident. In any case FIFA claimed that TV was no used in the decision to kick Zizou out, so there's not much that can said regarding this.

regards  Smile



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 23):
AFAIK it was never shown in the stadium and that's why the crwod booed at the ref after the incident.

The US commentators were saying that the replay was in fact shown on the screen before the red card was handed out. Then again, the US commentators are also dumbasses.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
25 N1120A : Actually, the team they had in Berlin was the best US team out there. They made sure not to have those idiots Harkes and Dellacamera calling the game
26 StarAC17 : I agree and I can say with a lot of certainty that in the event that a black player in any of the professional sports was called the N-word he would
27 Newark777 : Didn't watch enough to differentiate the different teams, but I was speaking of the whole WC contingent as a whole. Harry
28 MDorBust : I wonder how much you would defend a police officer who batons a suspect for giving him lip. Considering the lip they get, every arrest would be take
29 RichardPrice : Can I come over there and headbutt you for that? The only time violence is acceptable is in self defence - words are never enough provocation to just
30 Aerobalance : Not so sure - Zidane should have waited until their pathes crossed again - 'the parking lot'. One must take a stand.
31 Pyrex : Yeah, what a way for FIFA to give examples for future generations - award the best player award to someone who almost killed an opponent on field in
32 DL021 : the way a sportsman handles the situation is to let it ride, take it out on the playing field and if there's anything left afterward you didn't work
33 Newark777 : Fine, do that on your own time, but to put the whole team's chances in jeopardy is completely selfish. Harry
34 StarAC17 : I'm not defending Zidane, what he did was wrong and he was punished by the ref by doing something that isn't allowed in soccer and if he wasn't retir
35 MDorBust : Some do, and no one (rightfully so) ever says anything about how they can only take so much. If you can't take it, don't put yourself in a position t
36 Newark777 : That's BS. "Provoking" someone is not against the rules. If it was, you would see hundreds of suspensions left and right. As for the racism, we don't
37 StarAC17 : This is why its being investigated and hopefully good will come out of it and the contreversy with this paticular issue is taken care of for Euro 200
38 QANTAS077 : if he was nearly killed he'd still be in hospital... not spur of the moment? one minute Materazzi is yapping in his ear, less then 5 seconds later he
39 Newark777 : Who cares? He still attacked another player, simple as that. Harry
40 Kaddyuk : If i were to call you a ***** *** ***** *** ***** ******* ***** *** *** **** **** (Sensored becuse i'd be banned longer than mendis for it). Then fee
41 StarAC17 : I'm the same height as Zidane and I don't even think I would be knocked down considering that headbutt as he didn't even run at him. Had Materazzi be
42 N1120A : Harkes and Dellacamera really gave a good contingent a bad name.
43 Mir : Who would it go to? France didn´t win the game. And it´s not like it was clear that France would have won had Zidane been around in penalties - ass
44 EZEIZA : In Argentina the commentators repeated several times that it was not shown on the screens. they were very interested in all this since the ref is Arg
45 N1120A : On the US broadcast you could hear the crowd going "oooooh" when they showed the replay of the indicent, which came directly from the stadium feed. I
46 Mir : I don´t think so either, but it would be better than taking away their victory if FIFA really wanted to make a statement. -Mir
47 Post contains images PPVRA : If FIFA strip Italy of their (deserved) title they will be punishing the rest of the Italian team, who played fair and well, and, indirectly, the Ita
48 SJUboeingGirl : let's see what happens!
49 Post contains images PPVRA : simpler solution. . . Materazzi Vs. Zidane
50 AirRyan : I'd agree with that - maybe they could strip the little medal they gave to Materazzi or something. I was still appalled to here today the FIFA cheif
51 Rolfen : What language were they speaking? Does zidane speak english or italian? Does Materazzi speak english or french? Could he possibly speak 2 languages bu
52 AviationMaster : Communication must not have been a problem, Zidane played in Italy for a while.
53 Post contains links AirRyan : Two thumbs up for Zidane's mum! You know, if you spin this in the right way, there is a fundamental and signifcant moral lesson for the ages to be lea
54 Post contains images Newark777 : Selfishly losing control of his emotions and hurting the rest of his team's chances at the cup is anything but honorable. Harry
55 AirRyan : You missed my point again - there is more to life than just playing games and my point is that you don't always have to win that game in order to ult
56 Post contains images Rolfen : That's his mum talking? What a family! No wonder he's so short-tempered.
57 Post contains images PPVRA : An Italian quality. . . crazy place this world
58 Post contains links AirRyan : Zidane speaks... http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/news...RUKOC_0_UK-SOCCER-WORLD-ZIDANE.xml Face it people - there is more to life than just a game and
59 Newark777 : No, it's just you. Everyone else sees Zidane for what he did, and what a dumb thing it was to do at the end of a WC final. Words are one thing, but i
60 Post contains links AirRyan : Evidently it's not just me... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...hil_taylor/07/12/zidane/index.html
61 Matt72033 : could you tell us how you know materazzi croseed the line? did you hear what he said? no so you trust a few lipreaders that were probably hired by th
62 Newark777 : That same writer, in the same article, says of Zidane's behavior: It was an unforgivable loss of composure While you keep acting as though he handled
63 StarAC17 : I agree just imagine if it was Ron Artest, Todd Bertuzzi or Marty McSorely in Zidane's shoes. Materazzi would be lucky if he wasn't in the hospital r
64 Sebolino : Zidane explained himself a few hours ago. According to him, Materazi (this jerk) insulted several times Zidane's Mother and sister with "very hard wor
65 Post contains images Matt72033 : obviously a cpmpletely unbiased view here
66 LH477 : Firstly, Zidane did not loose the game for France. If Zidane was available for penalties, it is most likely that he wouldn't have taken Trezeguet's sp
67 EZEIZA : No, to be honest they'll remember him for scoring the equalizer or at worst he won't be remembered at all. I agree. In fact, maybe zZ would have shot
68 Scbriml : Football is palyed under the juristiction of FIFA. They can do what they like, including hitting Zidane with a hefty fine. Maybe on planet AirRyan (w
69 LH477 : Again, I think Italy deserved the win based on the game itself, despite the fact that they didn't show up in the second half and afterwords. But to m
70 Post contains images EZEIZA : Completely agree. And without Zidane, France would have probably not played the final. Correct. But in the final, a french player elbowed De Rossi in
71 LH477 : You got me there......Frankly, Cannavaro deserved the golden boot, as much Zidane showed his magical touches in some games, he was also absent in man
72 Legoguy : Actually I feel sorry for Zidane. I know many of us can say that we would just ignore comments like the comments Zidane recieved on the pitch from Mat
73 Newark777 : Yes. As I said in the other thread, I heard similar things, but you are told to ignore them, as lashing out will hurt your teammates and your team. H
74 Post contains images Legoguy : Yes but could you honestly say that in the spare of the moment, could you actually ignore them? Sitting here and daying you could seems easy, but und
75 EZEIZA : Zidane could have kicked Materazzi's ass after the game and not let his team (country) without thw most important player
76 AirRyan : France outplayed Italy the entire game save for the 12 minutes between Zidane's PK and Materazzi's goal in the 7th and 19th minutes of the first half
77 LH477 : Golden ball....I mean....
78 Newark777 : I have been in big game situations, and yes, withstood the trash talking. Who cares, they still lost. Again, they won, time to get over it. Stop cryi
79 Legoguy : Yes I guess he couldve, but even then the press would have been all over it. Again true, but then think of the extra pressure...world cup...as well a
80 Newark777 : I really don't see how pressure would make someone more likely to lash out at an opposing player. Harry
81 Kaddyuk : Thank You Mr National Speaker... However, the only thing i see Zidane for is being a great footballer who takes no sh!t on or off the pitch... The on
82 Legoguy : Pressure can people do things that they will later regret. Speaking of regret, Zidane doesn't regret what he did during the game...
83 Newark777 : So you didn't see him attack Materazzi? Harry
84 Legoguy : Materazzi learnt an important lesson. Don't give shit to one of the worlds greatest footballers and expect to walk away unscathed.
85 QANTAS077 : yes...it was a beautiful moment! i'd say to you that Materazzi is very lucky he said what he did on a football field and come out of it so lightly, a
86 Post contains images Jap : Zidane already has one
87 Post contains images QANTAS077 : he's got more then one over his distinguished career...
88 AirRyan : And that is why I like him so - he's got moxy and is full of conviction; a man who stands by his principles and can see the difference between a mere
89 Legoguy : It is true that I wanted France to win the World Cup, but once I was Zidane headbutt Materazzi, I wanted Italy to win because of what Zidane did. Howe
90 Post contains images EZEIZA : And yet Italy scored the same goals than France, and even hit the cross bar and had a goal dissalowed for literally 1 cm, yet France shot on goal 2 o
91 Ghost77 : It's been always the same story with this guy! Zidane had a red card shown in France of 98 and since then we can count several more @ Real Madrid. Al
92 EZEIZA : yet some people seem to believe that everyone is nice to eachother in football and that ZZ is a poor innocent victim of this.
93 N1120A : Without the French, we in the US would be having high tea.
94 Post contains images Scbriml : Which the vast majority voted for before Zidane's attack. Check the papers - France lost. Italy won. Your whining and bitching won't ever change that
95 Kaddyuk : Perhaps you should take off those "Holier Than You" glasses...
96 Sebolino : True. But you won't change that France was better on the field than Italy. Your feelings towards France are really too clear.
97 Post contains images Legoguy : So passing racist comments to a member of the opposing team is legal
98 EZEIZA : Sorry but no, because although France had more posession, they bumped into the Italian defence. So Italy's defence was better tan France's attack, an
99 Post contains images Scbriml : That's subjective. What's objective is that Italy scored the same number of goals as France in the match, then scored more penalties. However, as an
100 Mrocktor : 1. Both religion and being a terrorist are chosen. It is proper to judge people by their choices. Criticizing someone for being an Arab is racism. Cri
101 Post contains images EZEIZA : ... and now they will meet again! FIFA will have them talk face to face on July 20th. Round 2
102 Ghost77 : Near to an impossible! Last year I played soccer (15) and I almost even make it to the 3rd league in my country and even we were kids we always were
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