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Let's All Change Our Flags To Lebanon  
User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5282 times:

Like we did for Denmark during the cartoon saga, let's temporarily change our flags to Lebanon to show our support.

UTA  checkeredflag 


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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

Why? Because of their support for Hezbollah and the kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers which is the reason why Israel bombed the airport in the first place? Doesn't seem like a good idea to me but to each their own.


"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1811 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

I've changed my flag!

Go Israel. Down with Islamic Terrorism!

[Edited 2006-07-13 10:19:37]


Never argue with idiots. They will bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.
User currently offline707CMF From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

One of my coworkers is Lebanese. Although we (very) often tease him about Lebanon situation ("so, you are from Syria ?" and such...), this morning, we were not in a mood to joke about that.

I concur to your move.

Cheers/choukran

707


User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5242 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
Because of their support for Hezbollah and the kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers which is the reason why Israel bombed the airport in the first place?

So you're saying it's OK to bomb a civilian target in response to a military action ?

UTA  checkeredflag 



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5226 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 4):
So you're saying it's OK to bomb a civilian target in response to a military action ?

If the airport was being used to funnel arms to Hamas as Israel has suggested then yes it is ripe for a good bombing. If Israel is wrong then I would expect them to get their butts out there and patch those runways ASAP.



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User currently offlineSoyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5221 times:
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Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):
If Israel is wrong then I would expect them to get their butts out there and patch those runways ASAP.

But Israel is NEVER wrong. We all know that! Ask rjpieces, he'll tell you all about it.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26605 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5212 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):
If Israel is wrong then I would expect them to get their butts out there and patch those runways ASAP.

And he 30 or so lives lost? You going to patch those too? Or how about the 14 planes they blew up in an act of terrorism? Gonna replace those all these years later?



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5212 times:

The situation is too complex for some childish flag-changing action on some internet forum.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26605 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5198 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 8):
The situation is too complex for some childish flag-changing action on some internet forum.

I agree, but that didn't stop people with the Denmark thing



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User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5198 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):
If the airport was being used to funnel arms to Hamas as Israel has suggested then yes it is ripe for a good bombing.

The airport is under the direct control of teh government which is quite pro-US.

Just last week, it was revealed that Lebanese intelligence, with the help of FBI, arrested an al-Qaida operative who was planning to bomb the Hollan Tunnel in NYC.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):
If Israel is wrong then I would expect them to get their butts out there and patch those runways ASAP.

It's not the first time that they have caused damage and it won't be the last. We the tax payers have always been responsible.

Peace to all.


User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5728 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5187 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
let's temporarily change our flags to Lebanon to show our support.

of Hizbollah? No thank you.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5187 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
And he 30 or so lives lost? You going to patch those too?

People die in war. It happens unfortunately. Israel believes that Southern Lebanon is supporting Hezbollah and Hamas and they acted upon it. What about the shelling coming across the border from Lebanon?...is Israel just supposed to ignore that? Come on now, I expect a better argument out of you.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
Or how about the 14 planes they blew up in an act of terrorism?

Again, Israel feels they are being used to funnel weapons to Hamas and Hezbollah so they think it is justified.

Sadly, it is just another day in the life of the Middle East. Where's Rodney King when we need him...Can't we all just get along?



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User currently offlineSoyuzavia From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 594 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5157 times:
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Quoting N1120A (Reply 9):
I agree, but that didn't stop people with the Denmark thing

Of course. If it was Lebanon bombing TLV in retaliation for the attacks on BEY, you can be sure the same "Denmark flag" crowd would be changing to the Israeli flag in a flash. It has nothing to do with supporting right and wrong  Yeah sure


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5132 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
Like we did for Denmark during the cartoon saga, let's temporarily change our flags to Lebanon to show our support.

I'm with you, but rather write it in my signature then changing flags. Changing flags is a bit confusing to recognize members and their real location, often usefull in the civil aviation forum.



SUPPORT THE LEBANESE CIVILIANS
User currently offlineMacc From Austria, joined Nov 2004, 1058 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5110 times:

they not only bomb the airport, they now block the whole country.
for two soldiers?

hm...

will add lots of sympathies for Israel in the region...

"der krug geht so lange zum brunnen, bis er bricht..."

shalom... (how appropriate)

changing flags? not me. I am on the side of people, not governments. And there is no flag for them so far....

[Edited 2006-07-13 11:25:45]


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User currently offlineAirSpare From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 589 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5107 times:

Ok, what flag do I use? I have friends in Israel that will be aghast at this, I'm from the States, I live in Brasil, but for now I'm a resident of Egypt.

How about a PEACE FLAG!

American and proud, I won't pull down my flag-sorry.



Get someone else for your hero worship fetish
User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5861 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5087 times:

Quoting Macc (Reply 15):
they not only bomb the airport, they now block the whole country.
for two soldiers?

what do you expect from a people that are taught to believe they are better, stronger and superior to any other on earth...You just have to look at the lengths they went to when they kidnapped one of there own for exposing the truth about Dimona nuclear plant.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26605 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5038 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 12):
People die in war. It happens unfortunately. Israel believes that Southern Lebanon is supporting Hezbollah and Hamas and they acted upon it. What about the shelling coming across the border from Lebanon?...is Israel just supposed to ignore that?

Hezbollah is a political party in Lebanon, with democratically elected representatives to the Lebanese parliament. Further, while I don't condone recent actions by terrorist groups linked to Hezbollah, they have been against military, not civilian targets.

Oh, and quit with this "people die in war" crap. Israel has such advanced weaponry, they can pick and choose where they want to shoot.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 12):
Again, Israel feels they are being used to funnel weapons to Hamas and Hezbollah so they think it is justified.

You missed this one. This attack happened quite some time ago. Again, Hezbollah is a political party in Lebanon as well, so you should differentiate

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 17):
You just have to look at the lengths they went to when they kidnapped one of there own for exposing the truth about Dimona nuclear plant.

Not to mention how long they kept him in jail



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4978 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Thread starter):
Like we did for Denmark during the cartoon saga, let's temporarily change our flags to Lebanon to show our support.

Way to do something positive.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineAsbg From Israel, joined Feb 2000, 538 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4959 times:

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 4):
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
Because of their support for Hezbollah and the kidnapping of the Israeli soldiers which is the reason why Israel bombed the airport in the first place?

So you're saying it's OK to bomb a civilian target in response to a military action ?

UTA

So you're saying it's ok that Hezbollah shoots mortars on Israeli towns? This morning a woman was killed from the attack and others injured.


User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4959 times:

It's not fair to punish all Lebanese and foreigners in Lebanon because Hezbollah killed and kidnapped SOLDIERS!
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3771 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4953 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 5):
If Israel is wrong then I would expect them to get their butts out there and patch those runways ASAP.

As if, dude. What Israel is going to do is treat Lebanon like of the the Palestinian Territiories for a while, then leave to let the Lebanese pick up the pieces. Thing is, Israel will never get the two soldiers back, even if the Hezbollah hasn't killed them yet.

By attacking Lebanon, Israel has done more to promote Hezbollah's cause than anything Hezbollah could ever have done. All they have to do now is stand up and fight the Israelis and public support will only increase.

And now it's written in stone, all terrorists need to do is kidnap two people to accomplish more than a hundred bombs would...

And in the middle of every thing is poor Lebanon, in the midst of rebuilding itself from decades of civil war that tore the nation apart. And they were doing a pretty good job, until the Israeli attack. Sure, they're not taking care of the Hezbollah problem, but there's a reason. They don't have the means, or the ability, since Hezbollah's political wing is in the parliament. So, of course, a full-scale military attack is exactly what the doctor ordered.

Why do we "civilized" westerners wonder if our own McCivilization will ever reach some parts of the world, when we just sit idly by and let these things happen?

Cheers
Mats



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User currently offlineAsbg From Israel, joined Feb 2000, 538 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4947 times:

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 21):
It's not fair to punish all Lebanese and foreigners in Lebanon because Hezbollah killed and kidnapped SOLDIERS!
Alex!!!

It's not fair to punish the Israelis during their summer vacation and especially when there is a sudden boost in tourism. Why dont you shake you government so they dimantle Hezbollah. I really believe both Israel and Lebanon will gain from that.


User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2721 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4937 times:

Quoting Asbg (Reply 23):
It's not fair to punish the Israelis during their summer vacation

Nobody did ! Hezbollah targeted SOLDIERS not civilians
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion por la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
25 Doona : Indeed they will, but it's difficult to focus on dismantling a domestic military force, when your country is being attacked from the outside, isn't i
26 Asbg : Why are they bombarding towns??!! Civilians are sitting in shelter, a woman was killed and others injured!
27 Cedars747 : Israel want to destroy Lebanese economy.It was goeing to be a wonderful summer season,that why the airport was the main target.They are punishing the
28 Halls120 : Couldn't agree more. If the government of Lebanon isn't going to attempt to control Hezbollah, then the government of Lebanon has to expect attacks l
29 ME AVN FAN : thanks for the suggestion !
30 DL021 : No..let's not. There are real differences here. The Danish cartoonists were exercising their freedoms and expressing opinion that did not cause anyone
31 Avi : Lebanon (and don't tell me it was Hizbullah, enough with this wash words) declared WAR against Israel yesterday morning at 09:05 by opening fire alon
32 Frequentflyer : Have just changed my flag to the one currently really fighting the enemy: terrorism.
33 ME AVN FAN : It was NOT the Lebanese army, and it was not actions upon commands of the Lebanese government. So that your statement just is empty and hollow and se
34 Cedars747 : The main problem here is that civilians are being punished for military actions.Beirut international airport is not a Hezbollah base ! Alex!!!
35 KLMA330 : I have changed my flag to show support for Israel. The reason should be obvious here.... The Israelis may not be perfect, but they are far more tolera
36 Avi : Wash words, wash words, wash words. Do you see what is happening when a government doesn't take responsibility on what is going on in its territory?
37 Aloges : Changing the a.net flag again... yeah, that's going to make a difference!
38 Aloges : Uh-huh. So why did no one bomb Saudi Arabia after the 9/11 attacks? Most of the highjackers were from that country. I hope you won't have to eat your
39 Halls120 : So you say. In any event, when the government of Lebanon starts taking substantive action to rein in Hezbolah, they will have my support. Otherwise,
40 DL021 : Because Saudi Arabian government offered immediate support to round up terrorists and cooperate with us in the war on terror. The Lebanese government
41 AirPacific747 : Thankyou for supporting Denmark, those who did, it was really nice to see, but I don't think you can compare the cartoon crisis with the crisis betwe
42 Aloges : And they won't be starting that anytime soon, after Olmert's government gave them this token of esteem. To me, actions like these (no matter whose ac
43 Avi : Israel started this episode of war????????????????????????????????? Are you ok???????????????????????????????????
44 Cedars747 : Look,Israel knows well that the Lebanese government has no control on Hezbollah Alex!!!
45 TheSorcerer : What are the chances of them doing that? Dunno about you but i read "let's temporarily change our flags to Lebanon", now wheres the talk of Hizbollah
46 Post contains links Aloges : Yes, when they started bombing Beirut. Like I said time and again, I have no problem with the shelling of southern Lebanon by Israeli forces. That's
47 LY7E7 : No, Lebanon did, by opening fire, crossing the border killing Israeli soldiers and taking POWs. This was an open declaration of war against Israel -
48 Aloges : Hizbollah does not equal Lebanon. You'd better let the FAA know: directly from https://www.notams.faa.gov/ Oh how generous of them. So more people ca
49 Avi : You don't let facts to confuse you, don't you? The war started yesterday morning by Lebanon, not this morning by Israel.
50 ME AVN FAN : The war was NOT started by Lebanon, but by a Lebanese organisation. It was neither the government of Lebanon nor the Lebanese army. You simply are di
51 Post contains images Aloges : The crisis was started by Hizbollah (NOT Lebanon!), the war was started by Israel's overly massive reaction. If you think bombing an airport, blockin
52 L410Turbolet : You simply are splitting hairs, playing with words and trying to find some pathetic excuse. As always.
53 Post contains images Skidmarks : How humanitarian. Isn't it about time the Middle East stopped this perpetual state of conflict? Whatever faction it is, the only answer they have is
54 ME AVN FAN : - simply a heap of b.... ! A) it damages the Lebanese economy very badly and terrorises its population B) it prevents trade and traffic and tourism t
55 Aloges : It is war. Terrorism doesn't come in the form of marked air force jets, navy ships and ground units.
56 Wrighbrothers : How about we change our flags to India, to show our support after the bombings, how about we change our flags to an African nation, in support of the
57 LY7E7 : It is time for the Lebanese government to take responibility for war acts launched from their territory They know. NOTAM mentions BEY closure and is
58 YAK42 : Israel should be made to pay for this act of aggresion. France or some large ally of Lebanon should start with bombing TLV and any other airports in t
59 ME AVN FAN : THEN it is WAR-CRIME !! reminds of "seit heute morgen um 6 wird jetzt zurueckgeschossen" !!
60 Post contains images Aloges : Well, they're certainly not any more able to do that than they were three days ago! The only Lebanese this war is weakening are the moderates - Hizbo
61 LY7E7 : 1. It's their problem 2. If they can't control Hezbollah - Israel will. And I think that we all prefer an option which does not involve Israel attack
62 DL021 : Wrong. Number one...France is not getting involved here, nor would they even if they could. Lebanon is wrong for allowing Hizballah to continue to fu
63 ME AVN FAN : as long as it does NOT mean attacks against Beirut-Airport and Beirut Downtown and does NOT mean blockades against the whole Lebanon, the world in fa
64 BlueSky1976 : I'm American and I will raise the Lebanese flag in support of damaged Lebanese civil aviation and all Lebanese civillians killed in this TERRORIST act
65 Aloges : Which has been made worse by Hizbollah's incursion into Israel and then Israel's excessive reaction. I hope someone will be able to control Hizbollah
66 DL021 : What do you recommend as a reaction when the Lebanese government will not allow you to come get your soldiers who have been kidnapped by an organizat
67 Asbg : Israel was attacked and people are so surprised of the outcome? Why should my government sit quiet and do nothing? I as a soldier I experienced first
68 Post contains images Aloges : Israel, and most prominently their secret service, doesn't have the most shining history of caring what other nations in the area tell it. Can I make
69 LY7E7 : This is plainly false. (Missiles were fired before and after the raids)
70 Texan : So then what you are saying is that if one nation believes that another nation cannot control a specific militant group in that country (like the cur
71 Post contains images L410Turbolet : 100% agree with you. But what about the BEY airport bombing? Do you think it really achieved anything strategically and wasn't actually counterproduc
72 Wrighbrothers : Would you consider the USA military terrorists then, last time I looked quite a lot of people in Iraq have been killed by air strikes in civilian are
73 Thom@s : Spot on. Thom@s
74 DeltaGator : Nevermind the airport for a minute but the mosques cease to be a civilian target when folks start shooting at soldiers from inside them. First shot c
75 ME AVN FAN : the Israelis HAVE crossed the border in order to "get" their soldiers anyway, and did not "wait" for the allowance of the Lebanese government, so tha
76 Post contains images Falcon84 : I'd rather change mine to Israel. I don't support terrorists. But it's nice to see sso many of you are firmly in the THI camp. [Edited 2006-07-13 16:1
77 MaverickM11 : I do not approve at all of what Israel has done in the last 24 hours but I would still associate with them over any of their much-less savory neighbo
78 DIJKKIJK : Hezbollah is armed, financed and trained by the Iranians. They take orders only from Tehran, nowhere else. They only use Lebanon as a base, due to it
79 Post contains images AirPacific747 : [Edited 2006-07-13 16:28:03]
80 Post contains images Okelleynyc : While I am an American (sorry Canadians and Mexicans et al; you know what I mean) I feel that the current response by Israel is beyond prudence. Yes,
81 Luv2fly : All worth repeating and I could not agree more with the above.
82 Frequentflyer : That's the best summary of the situation. The issue here is Lebanon's inability to fight terrorism. So someone else has to do it.
83 JAGflyer : I do not support Lebanon's Hezbolla terrorist groups! Am Yisrael Chai[Edited 2006-07-13 16:37:55]
84 ME AVN FAN : all correct, EXCEPT that they ARE Lebanese. As mentioned before, these realities may to a wide extent justify the cross-border operations of the IDF
85 Post contains images Falcon84 : And yet you AGREE that Tehran pulls the strings "behind the curtain" for Hezbollah, and you don't demand they do anything? Why so hypocritical? And i
86 Post contains images CO7e7 : Hey buddy, this is the flag of Hezbolla: This flag is the Lebanese flag: As you can see, they're different!! P.S I DO NOT SUPPORT HIZBOLLA. SO PLEASE
87 Cedars747 : In all cases CIVILIAN TARGETS are not the right response to that ! Alex!!!
88 Post contains images DIJKKIJK : One wonders why they haven't done so till now. About time...
89 Pbottenb : Sounds like the MLTAB (moonbat liberal terrorist apologist brigade) is here to save the day and to charge racism and provide comforst for those poor
90 Post contains images Halls120 : When Lebanon does nothing to try and rein them in, they are at the very least complicit. When the government of country A does nothing to stop the ac
91 Aloges : Why does no one factor in that the Lebanese government might just not be able to drive Hezbollah out of the country? I'm sure the majority of them wo
92 Post contains images L410Turbolet : Thanks, how long did it take you to google it up? What I meant was that I see no reason to support Lebanon for its leniency (tacit support?) to get r
93 Flyingbabydoc : Most certainly. Same as the majority of Israelis would like to live in peace with their neighbours. However, which means do they not have? Do you thi
94 DIJKKIJK : What utter crap! Did any Jew tell you this? I wonder why the Arab world cannot let a race of people who have been persecuted for milllenia have a lit
95 CO7e7 : A few seconds buddy.... nothing to be concerned about. Thanks for the elaboration. I now understand what you meant. At first your statement seemed to
96 DL021 : If you wish to criticize the actions of the Israelis then perhaps you should offer an alternative course that would secure Israels borders and preven
97 ME AVN FAN : the Lebanese government, people and army did NOT start anything. But Israel DID. no, just retorting to distortions and false allegations and exaggera
98 RJpieces : I don't see a need to change my flag in this case. I think that that American flag stands for what is right, and we all know what is right when a terr
99 MichiganMAN : A lot of the USA contingent on this thread are obviously siding with Israel due to many reasons, terrorism is a dirty word right now.........but when
100 QR332 : Israel has to be the nation that has coined propoganda to its fullest. Tell us, Asbg, WHY did Hizbollah shell the Israeli towns? It was in response t
101 DeltaDC9 : Clearly different circumstances. France against Israel? That would be another entry in France's loss column. Dont forget, Israel has a few allies of
102 RJpieces : Haha, how sad for France that this is true...
103 BigOrange : No it's not OK, but neither is what Israel is doing! Has Israel never heard of diplomacy? You don't see other countries launching missiles to avenge
104 Post contains images L410Turbolet : You seem to be contradicting yourself, but don't worry I know that those generally accepted as terrorists are considered heroes by you. If it is inde
105 QR332 : What, i'm supposed to be worried about what the likes of you think? Trust me, I really don't care about what blind supporters of Israel who support th
106 Post contains images Halls120 : We wouldn't have liked it, because the proper target would have been Boston Logan, since that's the part of the country where most of the IRA financi
107 Falcon84 : Conversely, QR, I don't care what blind supporters of terrorism think, either. I'll support whom I want to support. You support the killing of Jewish
108 Post contains images DeltaGator : You're joking right? They are the political arm of an avowed terrorist group. They target civilians every day with their homicide bombings and mortar
109 MichiganMAN : so were you proud when Gerry Adams was welcomed into the White House? short memories.
110 QR332 : Guess we'll have to agree to disagree... the recent actions speak much louder than words, and the fact that you still support Israel despite what the
111 Post contains images Aloges : Surgical strikes.. employing Mossad... I should think they have options the general public doesn't know everything about, right? Second, why am I not
112 Post contains images Jacobin777 : right...Israel PURPOSELY targets civilian targets and infrastructure..and if Israel has a "target" on its sights, it doesn't care about collateral da
113 UAL4ever : This is one of the dumbest ideas I have ever heard in my entire life. Basically you are saying "lets support a terrorist organization who launches att
114 Post contains images L410Turbolet : I wouldn't be so sure in your wet dreams since France IMHO has some old bills from the early 1980s to settle with Hizballah as well. Oh, some little
115 MichiganMAN : It didn't seem to bother the USA when the IRA was bombing London / Warrington / Omagh / Manchetser......... the dollars still poured into Belfast. Te
116 Stratofish : You have fallen victim to false propaganda by you gov. Lebanon has NOT declared war on Israel! Israel illegally and immorally attacked a sovereign na
117 Aloges : Newsflash, Hezbollah represents but a fraction of Lebanon. Why can some people not differentiate between a country, its government, its people and or
118 Falcon84 : Read my new thread, QR. If this keeps up, the whole region will be at war, with the U.S.and the west possibly involved militarily. Then you won't be
119 Beaucaire : I don't agree on terror attacks on civilians from any sides,so I don't support attacks by IDF on civilian lebanese citizens. People should consider Le
120 MichiganMAN : he is trying to defend his nation with words and you call him a "Muslim fanatic" nice debating there
121 L410Turbolet : And (hypothetically) if the KKK kindnapped some Mexican cops straight from the streets of Tijuana, then I suppose the Mexican government would rightf
122 ME AVN FAN : few people do so. Just compare the discussions yesterday and today. There yesterday at least was some understanding for the Israelis, as they acted a
123 UAL4ever : By supporting Hezbolloh and allowing them to operate in Lebanon the entire Lebanese government becomes complicit in anything the Hezbolloh does. Stop
124 Halls120 : When the government of Lebanon does nothing to stop the actions of this so-called tiny fraction of Lebanon, they get to pay the bills for their inact
125 Aloges : And when Israel disables the Lebanese government by destroying the country's infrastructure, who will be left to "stop Hizbollah"? The young men whos
126 ZakHH : I will not change my flag or a single reason. There is no "good side - bad side" in this story. There is people on both sides that prefer war to peace
127 QR332 : ROFL! You know what the funniest part of that is? I'm not even religious.
128 Halls120 : Actually, if my kids trashed band camp, I'd have to write a check to cover the damage, so your analogy is pretty much on point.
129 Avi : And the BS goes on and on and on (I guess 3 soldiers committed suicide, few others injured themselves and 2 others went for vacation in Lebanon becau
130 Post contains images BMIFlyer : Whole different kettle of fish I think i'll stay as I am. I actually support Israel to be honest. Lee
131 Post contains images PSA53 : Whatever flag of protest, to send a message to the Israeli's and Palestinians, that will end decades and decades of bloodshed,I will change to. So man
132 Singapore_Air : Can't the both hurry up? This has already caused the price of oil to escalate again.
133 QR332 : I'd love to see how you are going to justify the hitting of civilian targets in response to the military actions of Israel. Lebanon is responsible fo
134 Post contains images Saxdiva : Since bombing the crap out of every country that's suspected (or known) to harbor terrorism wipes out infrastructure and destabilizes the government,
135 DeltaDC9 : What happens to Israel if they do not fight back? They are surrounded by enemies.
136 JGPH1A : Great - just great. I'm flying to TLV on Sunday, let's hope there isn't just a smoking crater there when I arrive ! Seriously, this is a bit of a wor
137 Soyuzavia : The fact is QR, that Hezbollah does not target civilians. Never has. Never will. Whilst I don't agree with their aim to create an Islamic state based
138 LY7E7 : 1. A general remark: too many threads on this issue. Mods - please delete a few. 2. Another general remark: maybe 2 threads should be on this: one emo
139 MD11Engineer : Then for fuck's sake the Lebanese government has the duty to control and disarm this private army. I think that most European countries would gladly
140 Aloges : Go to Kiryat Shmona, stand in the street and read that out loud. If the katyushas don't hit you first, that is.
141 QR332 : Aloges, these have all began in response to Israel hitting Lebanese cities. I am talking prior to this conflict. LY, The attack on Haifa is a response
142 Luv2fly : Saxdiva I think that is the Gay flag, so thanks from my family to yours.
143 RJpieces : Indeed, I wouldn't be surprised to hear reports of explosions in Beirut as night falls.
144 LY7E7 : QR, it's a war now. not one thing for another. Think military operations, not single acts.
145 Soyuzavia : And I feel sorry for those Israelis who will have to suffer because of the actions of their other countrymen. Vicious circle eh? Round and round and
146 ME AVN FAN : - A) I stated before, that I fully understand, whenever dis-like, the Israelis acting against Hizbullah. BUT I definitely oppose Israeli attacks agai
147 LY7E7 : You what's the difference though? Lebanon is pretty much shut down. Israel has a handful of dead people (only one civilian so far). I apologize in ad
148 Aloges : Me too.
149 Tom12 : Isn't kidnapping soilders against Laws of War (god what a silly thing, but hey!) I agree with the most of the people, there was no need to bomb a civ
150 Avi : We gave it a try on Oct 2000 when something similar happened. Only over 3 years later we got back 3 dead soldiers and 1 civilian. It is not going to
151 Post contains images Saxdiva : It's been used since the early 1960s for pacifist movements. In Italy (where I first noticed them), you see them hanging from balconies all over the
152 ME AVN FAN : it was NOT done by the Lebanese army. Hizbullah at best is a political party and at worst a criminal terrorist organisation, and as such is not inter
153 QR332 : Wow. Two events. For a person who's country has killed 52 civilians in two days and has either directly or indirectly killed tens of thousands of civ
154 Soyuzavia : If that's the way you feel LY7E7, the perhaps the Israelis and Palestinians deserve each other after all.
155 LY7E7 : Is Lebanon a sovereign country? If it is that stop that crap about hezbollah.Because (as I've said earlier) if Lebanon does not take care of this - I
156 Post contains images Joness0154 : Huh? You obviously have no idea what carpet bombing is. Maybe graduate HS first.... This is carpet bombing...
157 Pbottenb : Nice way to parse events into a moment in time that matches your world view...Look - we are talking about the fact that a MAJOR political party in Le
158 ScarletHarlot : So all that this flag waving has served to do is to divide us into camps. Instead of being people and being concened about the people affected, we've
159 RJpieces : CNN reporting more attacks at BEY including fuel tank explosions.
160 ME AVN FAN : Yes it is. Just as the USA is sovereign and does NOT control CosaNostra, and for a long time allowed wealthy people of Irish origin to support the IR
161 Tom12 : Never knew that. Thanks Tom
162 DeltaGator : No I wasn't and I have never supported the IRA which isn't the case here anyways. The one difference between Gerry Adams and Sein Fein at that time w
163 Avi : No, just 2 examples. Do you want more?
164 Post contains images DeltaDC9 : Not really Exactly Been one for 40 years or so....
165 Post contains images Aloges : correct Maybe people wouldn't get killed if ARAB hardliners didn't insist on "pushing Israel in the Mediterranean"! I absolutely hate war, and it tak
166 Fumanchewd : The idea is idiotic. Why polarize people even more in an already tense situation?
167 MichiganMAN : bollocks. The Irish sympathisers in the USA bankrolled the IRA for years. then the explosions start going off in your own backyard and all of a sudde
168 DeltaGator : I'm not denying that one bit so quit insinuating it.
169 Windshear : I am disgusted by so many of you, I have no words... As a Jewish nation Israel should bow down in the dust, to the Arab aggressors, I know this is wha
170 MichiganMAN : ok...........sorry it's quite the emotive subject.
171 N1120A : They why change your flag to Israel? Yeah, way to wish for peace As an Arab nation, I suppose Lebanon should bow in the dust to their Jewish aggresso
172 MichiganMAN : surprised? killing people brings out insults.........
173 Windshear : No... Have I ever said that? What they should have done, was to dismantle and kick out Hizbollah. Had Hizbollah not done this, there would be NO conf
174 Post contains images DeltaGator : No problem. As someone with Irish ancestors (albeit Protestant ones) I have never suppoorted the IRA. At some point though the IRA figured out that p
175 Stratofish : And it appears that Iran is VERY successful at the moment. Oh give us a break, will ya? Israel attacks a sovereign nation and kills about 50 civillia
176 Greyhound : I share your sentiments PSA. I can't tell. I think anymore I'm just aligned with those who worry about the innocent civilians on all sides who just w
177 N1120A : Like I said, Hezbollah is a political party which formed to provide a voice for an ethnic group that wasn't represented in proportion to their popula
178 Windshear : Excuse me?? They invaded Israel, attacked soldiers on Israeli soil, then killed 3 and captured two... Later they kill 8 soldiers by destroying a tank
179 MichiganMAN : My father was from Belfast he moved out as he was a protestant family there in the 60's....... Don't know a lot about the Vietnam conflict, but I don
180 Aloges : They shouldn't have been patrolling inside Israel? What's next, "Israelis shouldn't be walking the streets of Jerusalem"?
181 Stratofish : No, they didn't. At least not in any way that would excuse Israels disproportionate aggresions. You know, the Nazis also told the German public that
182 Post contains images Windshear : Oh really?? Did you see the UN barrier there?? They crossed that, into Israel, there are no troops inside Lebanon. Oh so what are you trying to preac
183 Post contains images Aloges : Great. ANOTHER nazi analogy! Way to go!
184 FlyPrivate : Granted Islam doesnt equal terrorism,,,but dont you think that Terrorism equals Islam. where else in the world are the bombing people and killing inno
185 Post contains images Jacobin777 : the tank was in Lebanon.... Mabye if Israel released many of the innocent women and children this would not have happened..
186 Stratofish : Already edited that.
187 Post contains images Windshear : Going after its troops... Innocent?? What?? How can you, tell me that they are innocent, what on earth makes you qualified to see through the Israeli
188 Luv2fly : Thanks ladies, you are both class acts in my opinion!
189 Salim : Just a question for all the people saying lebanon must dismantle Hezbollah's armed branch. I PERFECTLY AGREE. But please tell us HOW this should be ac
190 Aloges : That disclaimer doesn't really change much. Delete it altogether, then it'll be fine. Any nazi analogy used in relation to Israel suggests a lot, not
191 Post contains links and images Joness0154 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
192 Stratofish : It is a historical analogy prompted by a remark of Windshear. It's so typical to playing that card, when facts dont support somebody's claims. I will
193 RJpieces : The US just vetoed a Qatari resolution condeming Israel.
194 Post contains images Aloges : Whose remark was prompted by someone accusing Israel of terrorism. I'll let you look up who that someone is.
195 AirPacific747 : " target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin...s_law Haha! So true!
196 Post contains images Windshear : Beats me! But this has been watched unfolding before the eyes of the world for many years now, UN resolutions were not upheld, even Israel watched th
197 DeltaDC9 : The Korean War began when communist North Korea invaded South Korea in 1950 and captured the capital Seoul. The UN voted to aid South Korea, and the
198 Post contains images Aloges : Talking about today? I haven't watched TV for a minute today. On the other hand, it's way too hot to do anything worthwhile today. Just like most of
199 Jacobin777 : how about looking at the various human rights reports.... in Lebanon....
200 EDKA : one of the dumbest things i have seen here Just wanted to mention - Sky News are running a poll: Is Israeli actions in Lebanon justified? So far 66%
201 Aviationwiz : Show my support for what? I am an American and a South African. I am a resident of the United States, I will keep my flag as the American flag. I see
202 L410Turbolet : No, no it was the other way around. Evil imperialists invaded good, peace loving North Korean communists. Signed, Kim Jong Il IMHO, it was also thank
203 MichiganMAN : From what I've heard / read is that Kim Il Sung went to Moscow to plead with Stalin to invade the south, Stalin agreed apparently just to get Il-sung
204 QR332 : My BS meter is pretty much exploding right now... invaded Israel? It was an operation to capture 2 soldiers in order to force Israel into an exchange
205 MichiganMAN : is now the time to point out that no-one will give a toss abut Lebanon and Israel once the Bird Flu pandemic kicks off.
206 Windshear : So is mine, I mean habibi! You have a Lebanese flag, I do not expect you to believe a single thing coming from Israel. Um... Yeah?! Excuse me? Nothin
207 Avi : With courage Salim, with courage. The same courage that force the Syrian army out of Lebanon (and that army was, and still is, more powerful than Hiz
208 Rolfen : Very true, and it seems they've succeded. They pretend to be here to fight israel, but actually they're doing israel a favour by giving them excuses
209 RJpieces : Because Israel really prefers having a major militia on its Northern border with thousands of rockets aimed south....If Hezbollah is such a burden to
210 Post contains images AirRyan : Where's my Texas flag?
211 Post contains links Mjszanto : Samir Kuntar is the “hero” that Hezbollah is promising to free-a man who gleefully smashed the skull of a four year old girl. Let's also remember
212 Jalto27R : Both countries suck. I'll stick with America.
213 PIA777 : I changed mine for this week to show support. Its funny how people say Isreal is defending themselves and when a muslim country does something its ter
214 Dc863 : Changed mine to Israel, they're only defending themselves.
215 Post contains images LO231 : But I won't change my flag, I live in Belgium. See my post in let's change our flags to Israel. Silly. Regards, LO231
216 Post contains images Jacobin777 : While I'm not changing my flag for now, I am including this in my threads.......
217 Falcon84 : So, you're saying blowing up civilians in a bus isn't terrorism? That blowing up a pizza parlor full of teenagers isn't terrorism? It is. What Israel
218 Stratofish : Why dont you put "Honk if you support collective punishment and terrorism against non Israelis" next to your name? Good (and safe) night EVERYONE!
219 PIA777 : Did not say that. A course in English might do you some good. I hate those people who blow up buses and kill innocent civilians. Keep in mind they ar
220 Post contains images Emirates773ER : My heart goes out to the people of Lebanon, some of the best pupil I have known have come from this country.
221 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Right..more like "we have the right to commit gross human rights abuse, continuously, as well as illegally build and develop illegal settlements, vio
222 Post contains images Fumanchewd : Ohh, what the heck...you talked me into it. I am weary of where Israel is taking this, but it is inexcusable to illegally kidnap soldiers to try to b
223 Falcon84 : That doesn't sound like hate. It sounds like tacit apologizing for them. And those home made bombs kill just like any other weapon. Again, I stand on
224 CRGsFuture : Hey all, first off I give my hearts out to all the civilians not involved on either side. It is unfair to their families and livelihoods that this has
225 Jacobin777 : Then that either makes you a hypocrite or deluded..because Israel does much worse to the Palestinians.... Tell me Falcon84, are you even against all
226 Falcon84 : Actually, they do not. Actually, I always have been. But it's nice to see the Fourth Reich has risen in the Islamic world. I guess they felt Adolpf d
227 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Actually they do... I can't believe we actually agree on something....kind of scares me.. sure.. Collective punishment as well as purposefully destro
228 Falcon84 : Where's "Deutchland Uber Alles" when you need it. Seig Heill, baby. How does that translate in Arabic?
229 Post contains images Jacobin777 : 1)it's Deutschland 2)wouldn't want to give you the pleasure of it in Arabic...
230 Hammerb32 : Wow, this is what I call a thread! When all is said and done the use of violence is never an answer, it's a question, the whole situation is as a resu
231 JpetekYXMD80 : Falcon, your little Hitler/Nazi Germany fetish is getting real old. You throw this stuff out way too liberally. This is not an isolated example.[Edit
232 Planesarecool : We had some Lebanese people come over to our college during the last two weeks of term, and they were some of the nicest people i've met. I just hope
233 Post contains images QR332 : Of course I won't, why would I respect anything coming from a country which responds to military action by targeting civilians? What, you think it wa
234 BlueSky1976 : Got news for you, buddy: I can find more analogies to the Third Reich and Israel than to Muslim terror: - "superior race/chosen nation" mantra, - "ex
235 Post contains images BA : To those supporting Lebanon, thank you. The Lebanese are resilient people. They had their country completely destroyed in a 15-year civil war and were
236 SFOMEX : God knows that I'm very sorry for the innocent civilians suffering in the Palestinian Territories and now in Lebanon. The poor Lebanese people suffere
237 Post contains links Pbottenb : Since you are such a big fan of the UN, here is a UN resolution that I would like you to comment on. Specifically, why do you give a pass to the 50+
238 Post contains links Jacobin777 : I've always said they need to disarm eventually, but they are the ones who are being attacked and have had their rights consistently trampled on....
239 Post contains images EA CO AS : Huh? Did Israel bomb Hong Kong when we weren't looking?
240 Fumanchewd : Forget your Lebanese flags, you might as well just change you flags to the crescent moon. Islam is the only thing tying moslems to this situation. ...
241 Post contains images L410Turbolet : He was throwing rocks only because AK-47 was not available at the moment. Besides, we've seen these "children" in action before, haven't we? Which is
242 Danny : So because Syria and Iran are too strong you are going to take revenge on Lebanese civilians? Sick logic. What Israel does is terrorism as well, no d
243 Post contains images Nimish : So, going by this argument, India would be perfectly justified in bombing Pakistan left, right and center, due to Pakistan's support for terrorist or
244 Halls120 : OK, which is is? Did they not invade Israel, or did they invade Israel, but not in a manner which deserves the current response? Can't be both.
245 Windshear : Ok, then how do you expect progress? I rely on much information I get from Israel, because I know personally that it can be trusted, if you want to t
246 TheSorcerer : Grow up, all this will do is split Anet even more, it's not helping anyone. Dominic
247 EurostarVA : Done. Lebanon we are all behind you and praying for a quick return to normalcy.
248 Luv2fly : SFOMEX a voice of reason, well said.
249 VinnieWinnie : For the same reason as why I won't change my flag to the Israeli one, I won't change mine to the Lebanese one! Way too difficult too take sides!
250 Post contains images Mandala499 : If the government of Lebanon isn't going to attempt to control Hezbollah, then the government of Lebanon has to expect attacks like this. But if Leban
251 ME AVN FAN : A) it is difficult to "dismantle" a heavily armed and heavily (Iranian-) supplied and financed organisation B) not least as they basically are Lebane
252 Post contains images DeltaDC9 : The more things change, the more they stay the same. Agreed. How about supporting the civilians on both sides and condemning the people that started
253 53Sqdn : This thread should have been deleted as soon as it was started along with other threads along the same line. What a sad bunch of gits you are!
254 RJpieces : Israeli Ambassador to the UN this morning: With your permission, I would like to make a personal appeal to my esteemed Lebanese colleague. Your Excell
255 N766UA : Screw that!! I don't have a problem with Lebanon, but seriously. Palestinians kidnap 1 Israeli and Israel bombs the crap out of them. Now Lebanon goes
256 AussieItaliano : The Fourth Reich goes by the name Israel. That's what happens anytime you criticize a Jewish or Israeli action. You get branded as a Nazi. Screw that
257 QXatFAT : Sorry I will not put that flag up. I give my best wishes and my prayers to the people of northern Lebanon but, Isreal has my full support against Hezb
258 LO231 : You think those innocent civilians that got killed in Lebanon had any idea or a vote or a say to who's being elected and who Hezbollah is? You think
259 ME AVN FAN : Beside the point that I do NOT believe you, the Lebanese government has been in negotiations to have them to stop the violence and to join the regula
260 Luv2fly : Just what power does the Government of Lebanon really have then? The way I see it, my country my rules.
261 Post contains images Jacobin777 : thanks for your asinine comment...you obviously know what I meant.... ..unfortunately Nimish, it seems like some particular govt. doesn't believe in
262 VirginFlyer : This discussion is going well off track, and the flag issue has been dealt with elsewhere, so this thread is locked. V/F
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