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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3630 times:

I realize there are several threads on this already but I wanted to post a few important updates and hope the discussion will continue here. This post is meant to be a general update on what is happening.

Israel Air Force planes struck a bridge in the southern suburb of Beirut, a Hezbollah stronghold, and the fuel stores of the Jiyyeh power plant south of the city early on Friday, witnesses and security sources said.

Israeli officials have said that south Beirut, a densely populated neighborhood of Shi'ite Muslims where Hezbollah has its political headquarters, could be targeted. Leaflets dropped in the evening warned people to stay away from Hezbollah offices.

The Israeli Navy continues to blockade the Lebanese coast; as we all know BEY is out of operation for the immediate future. There has been talk of a Marine airlift to rescue the estimated 25,000 Americans stranded in Lebanon.

In other news, the United States blocked a resolution Thursday that would have demanded Israel halt its military offensive in the Gaza Strip, the first United Nations Security Council veto in nearly two years. The U.S. was alone in voting against the resolution. "It placed demands on one side in the Middle East conflict but not the other," Bolton said. "This draft resolution would have exacerbated tensions in the region." President Bush also proclaimed that "Israel has the right to defend herself.”

And finally, some statements by Israeli leaders. Israeli Defense Forces Chief-of-staff Dan Halutz has warned that if the soldiers are not returned, the IDF would target infrastructure and "turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years."

The former head of Shin Bet (the Israeli FBI) and current Interor Security minister warned that if Hezbollah fires more rockets at Israel and makes life miserable there, that Israel will make life in Lebanon "hell".

**I forgot to add that many American commentators and analysts are deeply concerned that this is really a Syrian-Iranian plot to stir up tensions and get the attention away from the Iranian nuclear issue. It is being framed in the media as Iran-Syria using its Lebanese proxies to strike Israel, an American proxy**

And some photos:

Caption: Fuel tanks burning at the Beirut international airport after it was attacked by IAF aircraft on Thursday


I think it's worth noting that an Israeli Arab soldier was one of those killed in battle in Lebanon. This is a photo of his funeral at a Druze village in Israel.



Lebanese army officers inspect the damage on a bridge that was destroyed after IAF warplanes targeted it overnight south of Beirut, Lebanon.


An IDF artillery unit fires into southern Lebanon from northern Israel.


IAF pilots in the cockpit, as they are about to take off for a mission in Lebanon.


Commander of IAF:IAF F-15Is, F-16s, Apache helicopters, and other surveillance aircraft are participating in Operation Just Reward against Lebanon.

[Edited 2006-07-14 07:12:31]

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User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3986 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3614 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
And finally, some statements by Israeli leaders. Israeli Defense Forces Chief-of-staff Dan Halutz has warned that if the soldiers are not returned, the IDF would target infrastructure and "turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years."

The former head of Shin Bet (the Israeli FBI) and current Interor Security minister warned that if Hezbollah fires more rockets at Israel and makes life miserable there, that Israel will make life in Lebanon "hell".

For me those two statements shows that Israel doesn't really care about the average citizens of Lebanon.



Don't give up don't ever give up - Jim Valvano
User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3595 times:

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 1):
For me those two statements shows that Israel doesn't really care about the average citizens of Lebanon.

You think Lebanon cares about the average citizens of Israel? You think they are concerned about Israeli citizens when they watch rockets being shot into Haifa?

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
Leaflets dropped in the evening warned people to stay away from Hezbollah offices.

Seems they might care about keeping as much as the civilians alive as possible - but whenever acts of war escalate such as this, civilians on both sides are going to suffer greatly. That is an unfortunate fact.




-NWA742

[Edited 2006-07-14 07:30:22]

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3547 times:

More updates:

According to CNN, Israel permitted several MEA aircraft to depart before attacking the patched-up runways again. Meanwhile Hezbollah rockets continue to be launched across the border at Israel.

Also, the IDF is planning to bomb Hezbollah headquarters in a densely populated area of south Beirut on Friday, according to a senior General Staff official in Haaretz.

The IDF said it has dropped leaflets warning civilians of the impending attack and that many of them have left the Shi'ite Dahiya quarter of south Beirut, where thousands of people live in multi-story residential buildings.

Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 1):
For me those two statements shows that Israel doesn't really care about the average citizens of Lebanon

See NWA742's post and above.


User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3534 times:

updates to the hour

The EU says it is concerned Israel's offensive in Lebanon may spread, drawing Syria into the fighting.
. Israel bombs Beirut airport for 3rd time in 24 hours.
. Israeli ships impose a sea blockade on the port of the northern city of Tripoli.
. Israeli Foreign Minister threatened to attack Syria, reports said.
. Power cut off throughout Beirut after a main power line stopped functioning.
. An Israeli cabinet minister threatened to eliminate Hezbollah leader Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah.
. Israeli warplanes struck the base of the Palestinian Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC) in Qussaya, less than two kilometers from the border with Syria.
. Israeli air raids on Beirut’s southern suburbs, where Hezbollah has its strongholds, killed three people and wounded 55 overnight.
. Overnight air strikes blew up a fuel storage tank at Beirut airport and another fuel tank at the Jiyeh power plant south of the capital.
. Israel war planes bombed the Damascus Beirut highway near the town of Dahr-el-Baidar, east of Beirut, cutting land traffic between the two Arab capitals.
. Israeli war planes also struck in the morning the mountain top at Dahr el-Baidar just off the Beirut-Damascus highway


Israel will now receive more free arms from the United States, thanks to the ongoing deal that has been in effect ever since Israel was created...and the American taxpayers will again have to foot this bill.
. Hezbollah will receive more funding from Iran and the "state within a state" affair will continue. Iran is flush with cash thanks to the high oil prices.
. Syria will come out smelling like a rose. Their economy will again prosper as tourists will be diverted from Beirut to Damascus.

yalibnan.com



Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
I forgot to add that many American commentators and analysts are deeply concerned that this is really a Syrian-Iranian plot to stir up tensions and get the attention away from the Iranian nuclear issue

Other commentators have a slightly different take on Iran's involvement. They believe that Iran is orchestrating Hezbollah's offensive not so much to divert attention from the nuclear issue, but rather as a way of establishing itself as a regional power to be taken seriously:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/arc...ives/individual/2006_07/009172.php

I'm not sure I would go quite so far as to say that Iran ordered the attacks, for whatever motivation, but clearly Iran will have to become involved in any sort of settlement.

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
The former head of Shin Bet (the Israeli FBI) and current Interor Security minister warned that if Hezbollah fires more rockets at Israel and makes life miserable there, that Israel will make life in Lebanon "hell".

Now that's going way too far. The Lebanese government has at best very limited control over Hezbollah's forces.



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

Quoting PROSA (Reply 5):
They believe that Iran is orchestrating Hezbollah's offensive not so much to divert attention from the nuclear issue, but rather as a way of establishing itself as a regional power to be taken seriously:

CNN just reported that the missiles that hit Haifa yesterday were made in and supplied by Iran.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3480 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
And finally, some statements by Israeli leaders. Israeli Defense Forces Chief-of-staff Dan Halutz has warned that if the soldiers are not returned, the IDF would target infrastructure and "turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years."

Way out of proportion and despicable. Absolutely despicable.

I support Israel's right to exist, but not this.



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User currently offlineCasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4625 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 6):
CNN just reported that the missiles that hit Haifa yesterday were made in and supplied by Iran.

Wow, there go the oil prices and regional stability.



Older than I just was ,and younger than I will soo be.
User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3447 times:

i think Iran got the capacity to send missiles direct from Iran to Israel. so if Israel blocked all means to get arms into lebanon, they better think twice


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineChrista From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3429 times:

Quoting Soups (Reply 9):
i think Iran got the capacity to send missiles direct from Iran to Israel. so if Israel blocked all means to get arms into lebanon, they better think twice

If Iran did this, I would expect a huge escalation of the current situation. I don't think anybody really wants that, do they?

Regards,
Chris


User currently offlineThereAndBack From Turkey, joined Aug 2005, 699 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3429 times:

I had the intention to stay out of all Israel/Lebanon/Middle East topics on here.

That all changed when I read this:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
And finally, some statements by Israeli leaders. Israeli Defense Forces Chief-of-staff Dan Halutz has warned that if the soldiers are not returned, the IDF would target infrastructure and "turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years."

Innocent Lebanese people shouldn't have to pay the price for Hezbollah's actions. Lebanon has worked very hard to restore everything and saying they are going to "turn back the clock" is a terrible thing to say.

For those of you who don't know what Beirut looked like here are pictures:
Before:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1256/page130131a0ga.jpg

After:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/7929/page130131d3ff.jpg

Before:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5887/page114115a3tj.jpg

After:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4003/page114115d7io.jpg

Before:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8320/page184185a3td.jpg

After:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/8496/page184185d3sh.jpg

Before:
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4734/rua03a1zy.jpg

After:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9443/rua01d5da.jpg

They must expect to do a lot of damage... Sad

Quoting Soups (Reply 4):
Israel will now receive more free arms from the United States, thanks to the ongoing deal that has been in effect ever since Israel was created...and the American taxpayers will again have to foot this bill.

That is so ridiculous. They should pay for it themselves that deal should have ended a long time ago.


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3392 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 6):
CNN just reported that the missiles that hit Haifa yesterday were made in and supplied by Iran

Not exactly. The two rounds were just crudly upgraded Soviet made 122mm artillery rockets. Reminiscent of what the Iraqis did to their Scuds before 1991. Although the rockets could have been reworked in Iran, this could have been done in Lebanon itself too. Iran actually does manufacture rather large and powerful artillery rockets that would suit the Hezbollah quite well, but there hasn't been sign of them being used on Israel yet.


LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3348 times:

More updates:

Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah vowed Friday to strike Israeli targets south of Haifa, after an Israel Air Force attack left the group's headquarters in Beirut in ruins.

Also, the White House said Friday that United States President George W. Bush would not press Israel to halt its military operation in Lebanon.

Asked whether Bush had agreed to a request from Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora that he rein in the Israelis, White House spokesman Tony Snow said: "No. The president is not going to make military decisions for Israel."


User currently offlineRaffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3341 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 6):
CNN just reported that the missiles that hit Haifa yesterday were made in and supplied by Iran

It has just been reported that the missiles that have hit Beirut over the last 24 hours, that have caused 70 civillian Lebanese deaths SO FAR, were made in and supplied by America (at the cost of the American tax payer)



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3341 times:

Quoting Raffik (Reply 14):
It has just been reported that the missiles that have hit Beirut over the last 24 hours, that have caused 70 civillian Lebanese deaths SO FAR, were made in and supplied by America (at the cost of the American tax payer)

I'm very happy to see my taxpayers being spent towards defeating the forces of Islamic terrorism in the Middle East.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 13):
More updates:

Let's make this balanced. Bush also said:

"The concern is that any activities by Israel to protect herself will weaken that government ... or topple that government. And we've made it clear in our discussions."

There's obvious concern within the White House that this action could go too far.



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 16):
Let's make this balanced. Bush also said:

"The concern is that any activities by Israel to protect herself will weaken that government ... or topple that government. And we've made it clear in our discussions."

Sure, but there was a lot of hope in some quarters that Bush would intervene to reign in Israel. That apparantly was ruled out today.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
srael Air Force planes struck a bridge in the southern suburb of Beirut, a Hezbollah stronghold

but they also struck a bridge of the highway to Beirut-downtown. And the highway is NOT "a Hizbullah stronghold". Any such statement is complete and utter nonsense

Quoting RJpieces (Thread starter):
the United States blocked a resolution Thursday that would have demanded Israel halt its military offensive in the Gaza Strip, the first United Nations Security Council veto in nearly two years.

the USA have become accomplice to aggression and warcrime

Quoting Soups (Reply 4):
. Israeli Foreign Minister threatened to attack Syria, reports said.

the warmongers are driving towards further wars. And gradually are breaking the smallprint in the peace-accords with Egypt and Jordan.

Quoting ThereAndBack (Reply 11):
Israeli Defense Forces Chief-of-staff Dan Halutz has warned that if the soldiers are not returned, the IDF would target infrastructure and "turn back the clock in Lebanon by 20 years."

the man should be hanged and quartered. or is it the other way round ?

Quoting LY744 (Reply 12):
just crudly upgraded Soviet made 122mm artillery rockets. Reminiscent of what the Iraqis did to their Scuds before 1991.

the whole thing does NOT look so "crude" by an artilleristic viewpoint. And another thing. I thought that Israeli army units had crossed into Lebanon. How then is it possibly that the thugs of Hizbullah still can do such things ?


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3313 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 17):
Sure, but there was a lot of hope in some quarters that Bush would intervene to reign in Israel.

It certainly wasn't me. I fully support the right of Israel to take out targets, and defend herself, but not to destroy Lebanon.

It's unfair to say that Bush has issued a hands-off policy in regards to this conflict, when he actually said something closer to "tread, but tread lightly and carefully".



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User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 18):
the whole thing does NOT look so "crude" by an artilleristic viewpoint. And another thing. I thought that Israeli army units had crossed into Lebanon. How then is it possibly that the thugs of Hizbullah still can do such things ?

I'm under the impression that ground forces are basically still mostly on Israeli territory, I'm not seeing any indication of significant ground incursions into southern Lebanon since the original incident.


LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

Quoting LY744 (Reply 20):
I'm not seeing any indication of significant ground incursions into southern Lebanon since the original incident.

which is astonishing, as Southern Lebanon south of the Litani River is the area where Hizbullah is. And to say that the Hizbullah folks use the "official" Beirut-Damascus road is perfectly ridiculous. I have my differences with you and your folks, but I have no doubt about the point that those in charge in Jerusalem are intelligent, so quite honestly, do your folks and the Bushites play dirty games with all of us ?


User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 21):
I have my differences with you and your folks, but I have no doubt about the point that those in charge in Jerusalem are intelligent, so quite honestly, do your folks and the Bushites play dirty games with all of us ?

My folks? I have differences with my parents too!  Silly But seriously, "my folk"? I think you're jumping to conclusions here. Consider me a humble correspondent, I bring information, and sometimes a point of view, which often comes accross as one different than my own. Oh well. At any rate, I'm no decision maker, and I certainly have no reason to jock any particular political group.

As for what goes through the minds of the people in Jerusalem: you have to keep in mind that every war is always about politics. And politics is always dirty. So it's safe to say that whenever a shell goes off in anger, there is, at least partially, some kind of dirty game behind it.


LY744.



Pacifism only works if EVERYBODY practices it
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3199 times:

Quoting LY744 (Reply 22):
politics is always dirty.

exactly! the Israelis maybe are just paving the way for the USA-government to launch a war against Iran. Suppose I start filling "emptied" bottle with petrol. Just have a problem with some decent storage for the stuff. Or ask the garage to change my car to run on CocaCola !!!!


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

Quoting Soups (Reply 9):
i think Iran got the capacity to send missiles direct from Iran to Israel. so if Israel blocked all means to get arms into lebanon, they better think twice

It's Iran that better think twice. If they bomb Israel directly, don't be surprised if the Israeli Air Force-or the U.S. Navy and Air Force, pays a visit to some sites in Iran.

Quoting Raffik (Reply 14):
It has just been reported that the missiles that have hit Beirut over the last 24 hours, that have caused 70 civillian Lebanese deaths SO FAR, were made in and supplied by America (at the cost of the American tax payer)

One difference: Iran is sending it's weapons to a known terrorist group. The U.S. is sending weapons to a 60-year old ally and soverign nation.

But again, you don't even acknowledge the terrorism against Israel, so what do you care.


25 Alessandro : People tend to forget Operation Summerrain that are runing for the 3rd week now, +30 Palestinians killed tonight, several buildings flattened. Few roc
26 Raffik : I have heard on the news that an Israeli ship was hit, sinking and on fire returning to Israel after being dive bombed by an unmanned aircraft? Can an
27 RJpieces : CNN just reported that Hezbollah militants fired a rocket at an Israeli ship but accidentally hit an Egyptian ship. No word on casualties or the statu
28 Falcon84 : Yes, it was reported Hezbollah used an unmaned drone-supplied by Iran.
29 Post contains links RJpieces : Agreed. I've requested deletion on some that don't belong here including my own. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/S...&subContrassID=0&sbSubContras
30 LY744 : Happened about 7-8 hours ago. It was said to have been hit with an unmanned aircraft laden with several dozens kilograms of explosives. The ship was
31 Raffik : News reports have come in that Hizbullah Katyusha rockets have penetrated 35km into Israel- to a town/village called Tiberias. Hizbullah claim to have
32 Soups : Any update on your dad?
33 Post contains links Raffik : The Foreign Office have released an Emergency Help line in London Tel 00 44 207 008 1500 for the Lebanese Crisis. I have called and my dad has made c
34 EK156 : It is sad that you see Islam as a religion of terrorism. But this is not your fault. We are subjected to this everyday accusations by your media as y
35 Post contains links Rolfen : Thank you, and thank you for posting pictures of what risks of being destroyed. I am trying to make a move showing beirut, a thing I wanted to do for
36 Falcon84 : There's an outright lie for you. Hezbollah has said it will launch all-out war. Don't make them sound like some caring souls, when they're a bunch of
37 Post contains images Windshear : Very powerful reading there! Boaz.
38 CaptainZed : Why isn't Al Manar, the official Hizbullah TV station, bombed yet?
39 Rolfen : They were bombed. I dont know how they still manage to broadcast.
40 Raffik : This is what the BBC and Sky News have reported- their words, not mine. Whether it is a lie or not, we will have to wait and see.
41 Soups : Foreign Governments Make Plans to Evacuate Nationals from Lebanon Foreign governments were drawing up contingency plans Saturday to evacuate their nat
42 Pilotaydin : You know what freaks me out... what is to stop Syria, Iran, Saudi Egypt and other nations that have strong ties with Palestine from attacking Israel..
43 CasInterest : Say it with me..... Nuclear Fricken Weapons!!!!!!
44 CaptainZed : Why should they attack Israel? Hizbullah is doing it for them.. This situation suits everybody in the "so-called" arab world.
45 Post contains links Beaucaire : http://www.washington-report.org/html/newsitem_s.htm
46 CasInterest : Wow, there is another nice BS piece. America has 300 million citizens. You think we are dominated by a country of 6 million?.
47 Falcon84 : Surprising to hear that from someone inside the Arab world. The threat of intervention from the United States, pure and simple.
48 Avi : Because we had enough with it.
49 TNNH : Israel's startegy here is deterrence. If Hezzbullah's that started this results in significant destruction to Lebanon, maybe next time they won't act,
50 Beaucaire : The population, of Israel has nothing to do with this. Many -or most- Jews find all their guidlines in the Thora -they are "the chosen people" and fe
51 Raffik : Israel has attacked Syria- expect huge retaliations from Syria. All border crossings between Lebanon and Syria that the Israelis haven't already bombe
52 CaptainZed : They're hitting Baalbeck now.. Hope they stay away from the temples.
53 Avi : Syria (and Israel) denies that.
54 CaptainZed : Hizb. HQ in Haret Hreik west beirut bombed for the second time today as Israelis believe Nasrallah is hiding in a tunnel under his HQ.
55 LY744 : An update on the Hezbollah's ship attack... reports are now surfacing that they actually used a Chinese made anti-ship missile. The kind of Chinese an
56 11Bravo : Basically there are five answers to that question; the IDF, insufficient military capability, geography, intent, and the United States. IDF.) In my v
57 BestWestern : What a lovely name.. Makes it sound OK to kill fleeing civilians, doesnt it? Since when do two wrongs dont make a right? Israel should take the high
58 RJpieces : Please try to keep this thread clean of commentary...There are a million others going on; this one should be for news reports to come in.
59 Post contains links and images Windshear : Some articles: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3276133,00.html 3 Patriot batteries stationed in Haifa IDF deploys anti-ballistic missiles in
60 AeroWesty : AP is reporting a Canadian family of 5 vacationing in southern Lebanon are victims of this violence.
61 LY7E7 : Press conference was given by the IAF commander, showing the videos of treated targets in Lebanon. IAF lessened the hits on Lebanese infrastructure no
62 Dtwclipper : This is most likely one of the vilest posts I have read on a-net. It is pure anti-Semitic (not anti-Zionist) propaganda.
63 ME AVN FAN : What exactly of his post is vile ? What exactly of his post is "anti-Semitic" ? You might specify which points exactly you are opposed to .
64 Dtwclipper : This one.
65 ME AVN FAN : ok, overdone and generalizing, true. But neither vile nor antisemitic.
66 Dtwclipper : If it's not anti-Semitic what is? It's lifted right out of "The Protocols of Zion"!
67 AeroWesty : MSNBC seems to be the only news network carrying Al-Jazeera live showing a new attack on Beirut airport. The caption on the screen says "Israeli Gener
68 RJpieces : They also just said that the Lebanese PM will spark a civil war if he deploys his army to the South...
69 Soups : hope they won't hit the terminal according to Nahar newspaper they bombed the fuel tanks again Irsael destroyed Lebanon army radar stations[Edited 20
70 Falcon84 : If Lebanon sends its forces south to take on Hezbollah, wonder if Syria will rush in to save their puppets? And does that mean a two-front war for Hez
71 AeroWesty : Well now that's productive! Destroy Lebanon's army while they destroy Lebanon, instead of going after Hezbollah. ::shaking head::
72 Halls120 : I agree. Their target selection is a bit odd.
73 Soups : They just hit today the mina part of Tripoli (port)
74 Rolfen : Earlyer today. Israel bombs the building of the civil defense department in Tyre, Killing and injuring dozens of people Civil Defense = Fire Brigade a
75 Post contains links and images FOMEA : To me it sounds like Israel have hit every Target but Hezbollah Fighters or their Rocket Launchers. I haven't heard of One Dead among their fighters.
76 ME AVN FAN : That the Jews respect the Tora is fact and perfectly alright and their freedom. That the Bible describes the Jews as "the chosen people" is obvious,
77 ME AVN FAN : it is their STANDARD PROCEDURE !! They in the past attacked whomever among the Palestinians was ready for peace and spared Hamas. To attack Hamas is
78 Legoguy : Does Israel really think that firing random shells into Lebanon will help get rid of Hezbollah!?!?!?! Before joining airliners.net and surfing the non
79 LY7E7 : Are you sure they are that random? Wanna go there and see? Amount of Hezbollah rockets launched on Israel has decreased from over 100 daily to 20-30
80 Legoguy : Surely killing many innocent civilians in Lebanon will make the non supporters of Hezbollah starting supporting Hebollah as they are fighting back ag
81 Soups : UPDATE Israel renews its pounding of Beirut’s southern suburbs Hizbullah rejects ceasefire on terms dictated by Israel Iranian Foreign Minister Mano
82 Rolfen : Ya guys, it's amazing that I'm sitting here in the coolness of the A.C. and browsing the net, after 2 power plants have been attacked. I have a feeli
83 TNNH : US won't support a ceasefire (effectively stopping Israel) until the Lebaese tell them what they can get in return...
84 ME AVN FAN : The idea of Mr Blair covers THIS aspect quite well. He apparently wants to place a STRONG force into South Lebanon, able to hinder whomever from doin
85 Rolfen : Day 7: Explosions now sound much more mufled, quieter but deeper... the sort that will make everything rattle. I am pretty sure that these are undergr
86 TNNH : ME AVN- Neither the US nor Israel support either international troops or a ceasefire, and currently these two countries are playing the role of decisi
87 ME AVN FAN : THIS exactly is what Tony Blair said. The Israelis only can be brought to senses if they get credible guarantees that the Hizbullah shit gets termina
88 Post contains links AeroWesty : Another big whoops, as reported on and link given by "pro-Israeli" yadda yadda CNN. Drilling trucks mistaken for rocket launchers in Achrafieh, Lebano
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