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Wal-Mart Loosens Shoplifting Policy  
User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9664 posts, RR: 68
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2799 times:
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Hell yeah.

No. 1 retailer will only press charges if shoplifters take at least $25, in change to zero-tolerance policy.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/13/news...mart_shoplifters/index.htm?cfm=goo

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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter):
No. 1 retailer will only press charges if shoplifters take at least $25, in change to zero-tolerance policy.

I will be sure to make multiple visits to Walmart when i go the US next time.lol


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2781 times:

$25, is that with or without taxes, I gotta know next time on vacation in the US  Silly .

User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Dammit! And I was enjoying getting arrested at the WalMart!

Signed,



User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

I'm copying a comment I made on the Freakonomics blog concerning this change in policy:

Wal-Mart’s policy makes sense in some respects. But then, I’m thinking of the way fare-beaters are treated on the New York subway. Some time ago the police were pretty lax about enforcement, but during the early years of the Giuliani administration began a crackdown on fare-beaters and greatly increased the number of arrests and citations.

Not only did this policy change reduce the rate of fare-beating, but there’s strong evidence that it also reduced the rate of serious crime. When the police stopped fare-beating suspects they searched them for weapons and checked for any outstanding arrest warrants. It turned out that a very high percenage – if I recall correctly, something north of 50% – of the people detained for fare-beating had outstanding warrants, sometimes for very serious violent crimes, and a smaller but non-insignificant percentage were carrying weapons. Strict enforcement of a minor crime therefore ended up taking quite a few dangerous people off the streets.

The relevance to Wal-Mart’s new policy should be clear. Calling the police on everyone caught shoplifting allows the suspects to be checked for weapons and warrants. I’ve no doubt that it’s not at all uncommon for this to lead to further arrests and hopefully the prevention of some serious crimes. By electing not to call the police, however, Wal-Mart is in effect ensuring that the shoplifting suspects won’t be checked for outstanding warrants, as unless I’m quite mistaken only law enforcement agencies have the authority to run warrant checks. I don’t know if the Wal-Mart security staffers will check the suspects for weapons, but most likely the answer is again no.



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User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

This means that I can split my shoplifting runs in in units of 25? The only downside is that I can never shoplift any single item over $25.

Which means that Billy Bob can loot the place for Hickory Flavored Beef Jerky, but he'll never get that 24-can plug-in cooler for his truck.

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User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Thread starter):
No. 1 retailer will only press charges if shoplifters take at least $25, in change to zero-tolerance policy

Thats basically inviting people to shoplift, for the smaller items.

What a joke  sarcastic 

The Zero Tolerance policy should remain, it is the only way to stop offenders.


Lee



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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

I was reading this today in the WSJ on my way to work today. I think it's funny that "certain police departments required extra offers to deal with Wal-Mart-Sepcific issues daily" and that it is a requirement to call the police for all items over $3.00.

Lame.

Matt



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User currently offlineA332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Woohooo... free CDs and DVDs for all... thanks Wal-Mart...

(Well, I suppose it'll be coming from the $9.99 bin... new titles are apparently still too risky)...  Wink



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User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 7):
I think it's funny that "certain police departments required extra offers to deal with Wal-Mart-Sepcific issues daily"

Given the extra tax revenue the WalMarts here provide, I'd say that more than covers it. (I'm assuming offers=officers)



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13198 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2546 times:

A number of Wal-Marts and K-Marts in my local area (Northern New Jersey) have a store employee security check the contents of your bag(s) or the package/box of large items against your receipt, then mark it, to double check that it has been paid for.
I would still suspect they will have some security people in plainclothes in the store, secure or use securty tags on high value/high theft rate items, and watch for suspisious activity. Probably if caught with unpaid items below the threshold they will just have you turn them back in, which makes reasonable sense. Don't forget to that if a shoplifter is caught, the cops are called in, the manager or other store supervisor or employee has to spend time calling the copy, making out a report, perhaps go to court as a witness. That means less time with other store duties or time away from non-working hours (like for a court appearance).


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 9):
Given the extra tax revenue the WalMarts here provide,

It's questionable if the stores provide extra tax revenue. Studies have pointed out in alot of cases the sales tax from the WalMart is coming at the expense of another store sale tax proceeds.
Yes, the police do spent alot of time at WalMarts dealing with shoplifiting and other assorted events that happen when low life type of shoppers appear at WalMart. (I'm not saying everyone that shops at WalMart is a low life, but there stores do attract a certain element.)


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12339 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2503 times:
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Wal-Mart is basically asking for people to steal cheap things with this policy. The anti shoplifting screens at the entrance to each store is now going to be operating in over drive mode.

User currently offlineBowflexBrennan From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

They're pretty much saying its alright if you steal cheap things, so basically you can steal anything in the store! The founders of Wal-Mart are so rich its not even funny, so they probably won't even notice if products are stolen. I think they should right a book; "How to get rich selling junk to poor people."

User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2808 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Not a real bright move. Now, all the shitheads have to do is work in tandem (which a lot do already anyway). Shithead #1 grabs a $20 DVD, bolts from the store which will result in the loss prevention folks giving chase while shithead #2 makes off with what they came to steal in the first place.

User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 11):
It's questionable if the stores provide extra tax revenue. Studies have pointed out in alot of cases the sales tax from the WalMart is coming at the expense of another store sale tax proceeds.

Around here we have a business license tax. It's based on a percentage of yearly gross income. The business licenses are to be placed in a certain area, and they do show what tax a business has paid. The last time I saw one for Walmart, it was almost $1M. This tax is paid to the local jurisdiction. However I don't know if the police who patrol the store are on or off duty. If they are off duty, Walmart is the one paying them, not the county.



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User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

Shit, they've got all that merch to move each week, it saves their geriatric, illegal, and desperate housewife employees the *time* and *enormous* effort needed to clear out those shelves and $4.99 DVD bins to make way for more of the same. Now they can all spend it on more worthwhile causes, like scraping smilie face stickers off of the floors and shelves. Genius, WalMart! Genius!  cheeky 


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User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

But note that, according to this brief quote from article:

"Wal-Mart told the paper it would closely track shoplifters it did not have arrested, and would ask that they be prosecuted after a second incident. It will also seek the prosecution of all suspected shoplifters who threaten violence or fail to produce identification, no matter how much they are trying to steal, according to the report,"

Thus...They are only deferring police prosecution of the under $25 items, but still tracking them internally...so you get one chance...assuming you are nice and have ID...



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User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 17):
Wal-Mart told the paper it would closely track shoplifters it did not have arrested, and would ask that they be prosecuted after a second incident.

What about twins or more? How does that work? What if they 're a tag-teaming crime family a la the Beagle Boys?  Wink




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User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2808 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 17):
Thus...They are only deferring police prosecution of the under $25 items, but still tracking them internally...so you get one chance...assuming you are nice and have ID...

Yep, and we all know that everyone who shops at Walmart has a valid ID and is who they say they are.


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