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Bush Forgets How Microphones Work (again).  
User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 47
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1909 times:

It's been a while since the last time this happened, but once again President Bush has said things which were supposed to be private... in front of an open microphone.

During the G-8 meeting in Russia, Bush turned to Tony Blair and said "What they have to do is make Syria force Hizbollah to stop this shit, and it'll all be over."

"This shit" most likely refers to the kidnappings, but it is still uncertain who "they" are.

Note: Don't turn this thread into a Hizbollah vs Israel flame thread...

Thom@s


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User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1878 times:

Quoting Thom@s (Thread starter):
but it is still uncertain who "they" are

Probably in reference to Iran..

[Edited 2006-07-17 15:02:23]


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User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1871 times:

Quoting Thom@s (Thread starter):
"What they have to do is make Syria force Hizbollah to stop this shit, and it'll all be over."

Sounds sensible to me.

Quoting Thom@s (Thread starter):
"This shit" most likely refers to the kidnappings, but it is still uncertain who "they" are.

Iran most likely but in the likely event they won't do so, the Israelis will have to do it.



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1864 times:

Quoting MattRB (Reply 1):

Probably in reference to Iran..

 checkmark  Agreed, Iran behind alot of this unrest.

News Flash for Mr. Bush; The much of the world is ignoring the US and its policies and there not much you will be able to do about it.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1858 times:

Quoting Thom@s (Thread starter):
It's been a while since the last time this happened, but once again President Bush has said things which were supposed to be private... in front of an open microphone.

What he said sounded pretty much right on the nail. I just wish he would come out and say it, just the way he said it.


User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 47
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1854 times:

Indeed it was on a more serious matter this time. Not like the time he thought the microphone was off and called a member of the press "the biggest asshole in the business."

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineDrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 4):
What he said sounded pretty much right on the nail. I just wish he would come out and say it, just the way he said it.

As much as I hate to agree with Bush(  Smile ), I do agree with him on this one. It may be a bit of a simplistic way to put it, but I think it's the truth. These days, I don't think Israel is in the business of taking over territory without provocation and if Hamas and Hezbollah would cut out the attacks, I don't think Israel would be attacking them.

-DrDeke



If you don't want it known, don't say it on a phone.
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13040 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Ah, isn't it amazing how microphones you think are off capture something you wish you either didn't say at all or you could retract. Bush's comments do express the frustration of how to deal with the situation as to Israel, Hezbolla, Lebanon, Syria and Iran that is going on right now.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

A wonderful video here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news_web/video/9012da68004b3f8/bb/09012da68004b517_16x9_bb.asx



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1706 times:

Why is this important?

He got it right there (for once). This stuff is "shit."


User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

Quoting DrDeke (Reply 6):
These days, I don't think Israel is in the business of taking over territory without provocation and if Hamas and Hezbollah would cut out the attacks, I don't think Israel would be attacking them.

When did the policy change? Are they going to announce it on Fox?

You dont suppose that either Hamas or Hezbollah might have had some little gripe or other about earlier actions of Israel - such as the bombing of Sheik Yassin and a few prisoners kidnapped to Israeli jails? No, thought not.


User currently offlineDrDeke From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1663 times:

Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
Are they going to announce it on Fox?

Nice try at a cheap shot. I wouldn't know since I don't watch television to get my news. And even if I did, I certainly wouldn't be watching Fox. All television "news" is largely fact-free, but from what little I have seen, Fox is even more fact-free than most of the others.


Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
When did the policy change?

I dunno, maybe when Israel withdrew from Lebanon in 2000 or in 2005 when they unilaterally withdrew from Gaza?


-DrDeke



If you don't want it known, don't say it on a phone.
User currently offlineFrequentflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 736 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 2):
Quoting Thom@s (Thread starter):
"What they have to do is make Syria force Hizbollah to stop this shit, and it'll all be over."


Sounds sensible to me.

To me too. Very good summary.

The rest of the conversation was, among other topics, on the intent to get the UN/Annan to move their behind and do something, but that's wishful thinking..



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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1625 times:

Better video is here:

http://www.break.com/index/president_bush_swears.html



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3765 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1588 times:

This is one of the most coherent statements ever by GWB. He acutally gives off the appearance of being a person. He apparently isn't very good at press conferences, so his staff should just keep microphones close-by at all times to get his statements...  bigthumbsup 

Good to hear that Bush is aware that it is Iran, Syria and Hezbollah that are the problems here, not Lebanon.

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1581 times:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 8):
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news_web/video/9012da68004b3f8/bb/09012da68004b517_16x9_bb.asx

Well whne he's not being shepparded to say one thing or another by his handlers Bush is actually quite succint on this issue. I am by no means the president of his fan club but he does have a point. You can see Tony was caught a little off guard by GWB saying "shit" but then again you expect that.

YOWza



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User currently offlineMrmeangenes From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1572 times:

Isn't it amazing -in view of the very real problems the world faces- that critics will seize upon something like this !

" Oooooooh ! He said a BAD WORD !!"

"Oooh-oooh-oooh ! I'm gonna tell my Mommie !!"

 Sad  Wow!  Wow!  Sad



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3765 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 16):
Isn't it amazing -in view of the very real problems the world faces- that critics will seize upon something like this !

Is anyone actually criticizing this? I'd love to know... Big grin

Cheers
Mats



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 16):
Isn't it amazing -in view of the very real problems the world faces- that critics will seize upon something like this !

" Oooooooh ! He said a BAD WORD !!"

"Oooh-oooh-oooh ! I'm gonna tell my Mommie !!"

crit�i�cism n. - The act of criticizing, especially adversely.

We get it you voted republican and you have no regrets about it. Nobody is criticising anybody. Stop being a baby boohoo.

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1524 times:

If Bubba could shove cigars up Monica's bad place I think GW can say "shit" a few times. Give me a break.

User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1497 times:

If we had a president that was so perfect then I would be afraid! IMO, President Bush is just your average joe trying to do what is best, and slips along the way!

I hope the media doesn't try to flame him for that or use that against him! He said nothing that was out of order IMO.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1494 times:

Quoting Thom@s (Thread starter):
"What they have to do is make Syria force Hizbollah to stop this shit, and it'll all be over."

Makes sense.

Quoting Thom@s (Thread starter):
Bush Forgets How Microphones Work (again).

So what.  yawn  zzz  yawn  zzz 

Quoting Mrmeangenes (Reply 16):
" Oooooooh ! He said a BAD WORD !!"

"Oooh-oooh-oooh ! I'm gonna tell my Mommie !!"

 checkmark 

Much ado about nothing . . . although I'm sure some Southern Baptist hypocrite Bible-THumper likely threw up their breakfast.


User currently offlineMonorail From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 625 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

Let's see...
The cover story on CNN.com for most of this afternoon:
"Open mic catches Bush expletive on Mideast"

While the growing civilian death toll is mentioned in "other developments"

Thank you CNN for keeping your priorities straight. Isn't it comforting that the most pressing piece of news today [in their heads] was President Bush saying "shit"?



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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 8):

Interesting that the female commentator was so distressed by Bush/Blair 'light heartedness' about it but expressed no regret whatever that explosive-tipped missiles were fired from HER country into another nation - an act of war.

And members here disagree with this cartoon or pretend not to get it:
The Most Accurate Editorial Cartoon Ever (by EA CO AS Jul 17 2006 in Non Aviation)
She illustrates the point of the cartoon by offering no blame whatever to Hezbollah for the consequences.



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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

Quote sounds fine. It works for me.....what's the problem???

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
25 Halls120 : I've long suspected Bush has the same "deer in the headlights" problem that other politicians have, such as Gore. While all the "wooden" and "stiff"
26 JAGflyer : Bush doesn't even know how to work anything except his mouth and his hand to grip the bottle.
27 NIKV69 : You forgetting that it is CNN?
28 TNNH : by "they" GWB was referring to Kofi Anan and the UN. In conext he was complaining to Blair that if Anan had half a brain he'd be all over Bashar Assad
29 Post contains images AirRyan : He was able to figure out how to fly an F-106... And piloting that thing must have been akin to flying IFR all the time every time with that wonderfu
30 VH-KCT* : Does anybody else consider the possibility that he knew full well that the microphone was recording? I must say it resembles the football coach rippin
31 TNNH : nope, if he had known he wouldn't have made that idiotic comment about what continent China is located and how long it'll take President Hu to fly hom
32 VH-KCT* : It's given him respect at home, made him look like a well-informed no-nonsense character with a clear plan of action in troubled times. I'm surprised
33 L-188 : Yup and Bush is absolutely correct. Annan is sitting on his butt in NYC sipping Lattes and not trying to do anything other then make a 20 second pres
34 DrDeke : Yes, I think this could very well have been the case. I don't see anything particularly negative about the situation, and I would be one of the first
35 L-188 : I can't discount that possibility either.
36 Bobster2 : This is way Bush talks when he knows the microphone is recording: So, no, he didn't know. He was much too articulate.
37 Post contains links Baroque : I am upset at that comment, I don't take cheap shots, although in all modesty, I think my charges are quite reasonable. And just in case you have for
38 Post contains images Thom@s : A full transcript of the conversation, as captured by Sky News: Bush: Yo Blair How are you doing? Blair: I'm just... Bush: You're leaving? Blair: No,
39 Post contains images Mir : A bible-thumper who, ironically, in all probability voted for Bush based on his "family values." Not that I´m criticising Bush for saying it - he´s
40 DrDeke : Well, I'm sorry then, but it seemed like one to me. Perhaps I mistook your meaning, but the meaning I read from it would in fact have been pretty acc
41 DL021 : No...they don't. As a matter of fact the world listens particularly closely when we say things now...since they know that we mean what we say when we
42 ANCFlyer : But why? Afraid to be Politically Incorrect or say a "naughty" over the air? Doesn't matter . . I'll bet you 99.5% of the US public could give a shit
43 MDorBust : Do we need to review the South Park "shit" episode to put this in it's proper context?
44 USAFHummer : They covered this on the Daily Show last night, showing the clip uncensored...also, one other bit which they uncovered which appeared to be from the s
45 DL021 : I know...I was quoting your quote.
46 FlyVirgin744 : Ah spoken like a true redneck. I didn't disagree though!
47 Post contains links Baroque : I certainly would not want to be an apologist as that would be usurping what is clearly your job. Small introduction to vocabulary: Hezbollah (with w
48 Post contains links Baroque : Well we are as one on that, I see very little of Fox, but I did watch a splendid US program called IIRC Outfoxed. As an aside, I am rather surprised
49 Boeing7E7 : Personally, I wouldn't mind our leaders dropping an occasional F or S bomb when it comes to situations like this.
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