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BMW Wont Replace My Airbag.!.!  
User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7366 posts, RR: 85
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1908 times:
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The light for the airbag has been on. I took in the M car to get oil changed. They look at light. The battery in the airbag is dead. My BMW replacement plan doesn't cover the cost of the battery. $700 to replace! I contaced BMW North America direct with a certified letter asking them to replace the battery free of cost on grounds of product liability. I didn't threaten them, just asked them for what I think I'm entitled as a BMW owner.  bouncy 

Thoughts?

ye ole M car.


me.



Disclaimer: I love my car more than anything in the world (earthly possessions!)

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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8768 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

Quoting FXramper (Thread starter):
Thoughts?

No one is entitled to free airbag replacements.



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User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1893 times:

I predict they repond like the guys in the BMW commercial:

"You've presented some very challenging ideas."

which really means your idea will die a slow death.  Sad  Smile  Smile


User currently offlineIAH777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 0 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

I asked GMC to replace my airbag, but they said my mother-in-law was not covered.  Sad

User currently offlineCOrocks From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

You failed to mention the age of the car and if it is covered under your warranty or not.

User currently offlineJoness0154 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 667 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

Quoting FXramper (Thread starter):
My BMW replacement plan doesn't cover the cost of the battery. $700 to replace!

Maybe you should've read the fine print? If its out of warranty, its out of warranty.



I don't have an attitude problem. You have a perception problem
User currently offlineDc10s4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

Is the car still under the factory warrenty? Do you have an extended warrenty? No to both. Dust off your checkbook. BMW owes you nothing.

User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1835 times:

I have to agree with the responses above. If it's not covered, it's not covered. It sucks, and we all try to find reasons for manufacturers to pay for defects outside of warranty coverage, but at the end of the day, they're simply not liable.

And $700 isn't much for an M3 owner  Wink



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User currently offlineEWS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1809 times:

Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 8):
You've got an OLD beemer M3 which has finally shit in it's nappy, just as all 3-series cars eventually do!

And every other car on the market! My rover sport gave up the ghost earlier this year before i bought the new focus.. maybe i should of wrote to rover asking them to replace the engine!  rotf 

Lew Big grin


User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3413 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1788 times:

Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 8):
You've got an OLD beemer M3

Old? They are still selling those, it's not possible to differentiate it with brand new M3's other then the discontinued Laguna Seca blue color.


User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1773 times:

Another M3 owner here    but mine is an old E36 (95...which I'm proud of...I worked hard for it). Hey anyone want to trade me their euro motor for my S50B30US (241 hp)?? Huuuh???   

If your M3 (beautiful btw) is under warranty (like others have said) it should be covered. If not I think $700 might be overpriced. I'd reccomend searching around first. Are you a member of E46fanatics.com, or bimmerforums.com, or any other BMW forum? There are lots of helpful guys who know a lot about BMW's. They have subforums for M3s too. Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Dave

[Edited 2006-07-22 02:14:59]


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User currently offlineJamie757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1745 times:

Quoting FXramper (Thread starter):
My BMW replacement plan doesn't cover the cost of the battery

That's a shame!

Quoting FXramper (Thread starter):
$700 to replace

Sounds about right to me, from a BMW dealer anyway! As said previously, time to dust off your chequebook, if the moths haven't eaten it that is!

Quoting FXramper (Thread starter):
just asked them for what I think I'm entitled as a BMW owner

You're entitled to nothing more than any other car owner would be, unless you've paid for an extended warranty.

Quoting FXramper (Thread starter):
Disclaimer: I love my car more than anything in the world (earthly possessions!)

If that really is the case, then why are the front wheels covered in brake dust? Or is that just the light?

 Wink

Rgds.


User currently offlineAlfa75 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 1743 times:

Frankly, there is probably nothing wrong with your airbag to begin with.

Besides, what makes you so special because you own a BMW? I would say that if you can't afford $700 you can't afford the car.

That is unless, of course, Daddy bought it for you!  Big grin

(I like the color though!)



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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

Quoting FXramper (Thread starter):

Thoughts?

Based on your car and the garage it's sitting in, $700 seems like nothing for you... Makes me regret not aspiring to be a FedEx ramper  Wink


User currently offlineJamie757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

Quoting Alfa75 (Reply 13):
Frankly, there is probably nothing wrong with your airbag to begin with

Unlikely, but try crashing into a wall at 30mph to test it!

 

Rgds.

[Edited 2006-07-22 04:06:17]

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 3):
I asked GMC to replace my airbag, but they said my mother-in-law was not covered

 rotfl 

Neither are wives, girlfriends and the like . . .


User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2661 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

There is a chance that your dealer is trying to scam you. There are many reasons that your Airbag light can come on. Here is a tool that will allow you to determine whether or not there is something seriously wrong with your system. If there is nothing wrong it will reset that pesky light for you.  Smile

http://www.bimmerzone.com/BMW_SRS_Airbag_reset_tool.htm

BTW, I am no expert....but I thought that airbags do not need a battery to operate.


User currently offlinePulkovokiwi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

Quoting IAH777 (Reply 3):

Brilliant ! My colleague calls his wife the handbrake because she stopping hims buying almost everything.


User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 17):
I thought that airbags do not need a battery to operate.

Airbags need a backup power source in case the primary power system fails as a result of the crash. The backup only needs to last for a couple seconds, so a capacitor storage device is used on many cars. Apparently BMW has a fancy battery backup. Contrary to what the OP said, the battery is not in the airbag, it's in the trunk.


User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 49
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

Some of y'all are being real shit hooks.

He's not presented himself as anything above everyone else because he drives a BMW. As a BMW owner, he should feel entitled to proper treatment by his car's manufacturer. As stated, he didn't threaten the company, and it sounds like he is willing to take his losses if he receives unfavorable feedback.

I am a Dodge driver and think that I am entitled to good treatment from Dodge/Daimler Chrysler (or whatever they're called now, lol). That being said, I don't think it makes me better than ANC just because he drives a POSFDT.

Now then, Sisters, please replace your rulers into their scabbards and let us return to our schoolwork.

BAB



I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7366 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1632 times:
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The car is a 2004, under full factory warranty. I've also purchased a BMW certified extended warranty.

They showed me the battery light at BMW of Austin and told me it needs a new airbag. The majority of replacements plans for cars (I'm told) don't cover airbags. Insurance doesn't even cover it. My ex-girlfriend has the same problem with her VW Jetta. Sounds like a scam to me...

The car was a early college graduation present. I don't have tons of money to blow on spare parts. I'm almost finished with two college degrees and hold down a job at FedEx. I don't take anything for granted.  Smile

Was just looking for anyone out there that has has similar problems with airbags.

Thanks for all feedback guys/gals.  Smile


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1620 times:

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 20):
That being said, I don't think it makes me better than ANC just because he drives a POSFDT.

At least you know your place in life . . .  wink 

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 20):
He's not presented himself as anything above everyone else because he drives a BMW

Agreed . . . seriously . . . the thought never entered my mind . . .


User currently offlineUAL747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

The airbags aren't covered on the warrantee. I had a problem with it about 2 years ago. I had a 330Ci Convertible and I hit a hard edge on the road (constructiong) and it wasn't covered under my insurance. Had to pay about $3000 for the airbag replacement on the passenger side. It sucked.

UAL


User currently offlineAlfa75 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1496 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 20):
The car was a early college graduation present.

I knew it!  bouncy 

Kudos for admitting it.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting FXramper (Reply 20):
I'm almost finished with two college degrees and hold down a job at FedEx.

Congrats for when you finish.  trophy 



The best things in life aren't things!
User currently offlineNAV20 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 9909 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 22):
Had to pay about $3000 for the airbag replacement on the passenger side. It sucked.

Last car I bought the salesman offered me a 'free' driver's side airbag. I said I didn't want one, and he broke down and told me that it was already fitted. I told him to disconnect it - for exactly that reason. I'm happy to trust my own driving and the seatbelt, I don't want the extra worry of driving around with what amounts to an 'unexploded bomb' eight inches from my face.

As far as I know airbags weren't designed as a safety measure, they were an administrative compromise because the US federal authorities were told at one time that laws requiring the wearing of seatbelts were 'unconstitutional.'

So, FXramper, one possible answer is to ask yourself if you've ever NEEDED an airbag, and if you drive badly enough to make it likely that ever you will? And if the answer is 'No' to both questions, consider just having the thing de-activated?



"Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards.." - Leonardo da Vinci
25 Post contains images UTA_flyinghigh : Just ask a certain A.net forum member from the UK where he thinks he would be today if his Tillie hadn't been airbagged. Airbags don't replace seatbe
26 Post contains images Klaus : Big mistake. Whatever the US politics may have been, airbags save a lot more lives than they're endangering (it happens, but very rarely). Of course
27 NAV20 : Airbags aren't a legal requirement in this country, Klaus, they're an option. Have you ridden in an American car recently? If you have, no doubt you'l
28 Klaus : That is the whole problem with your litigation-crazy society: You're drowning in warning labels, which leads some people to believe that the probabil
29 IFEMaster : As someone who's had their face and probably life saved by an airbag, I feel very sorry for any passengers who ride in your vehicle. You might think
30 Klaus : You might actually open yourself for litigation in case a passenger gets hurt by your car having the airbag deliberately disabled. You can be sure tha
31 Senorcarnival : Having worked for customer care centers that deal with letters, I can tell you that sending certified letters and correspondence to high-ranking exec
32 Post contains images Alfa75 : Ah yes, Darwin at his finest! Probably not enough chlorine in the gene pool!
33 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Oh this is no problem at all...take it to a KIA dealer instead. They specialize in these kinds of interiors... Signed, ILS B4e-Forever New Frontiers
34 N1120A : Who the hell told you that? A $700 battery? If you are currently visiting your parents in California Drew, IM me and we will take care of that issue
35 Aa757first : I don't understand why would you do this or why Australia doesn't require airbags in their cars. Here in the United States, you must have dual airbag
36 BHMBAGLOCK : Sadly, we have the same issue with seatbelts as well and many idiots who refuse to wear them because they could get trapped in a one in a million cra
37 Falstaff : Saved my ass, or I should say face, twice once in my car, once in a friend's. Most of the airbags I deal with have a backup power source that is a ca
38 LOT767-300ER : Different setup, different labor. Ever tried to change spark plugs on some of the recent years of Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep? Hoo---ahhh the whole engine ne
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