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Major Rescue Operation In Progress Off Alaska  
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

Hey guys,

The US Coast Guard and the Alaska Air National Guard are currently involved in a major rescue operation some 230 miles from the nearest land fall.

A Singapore Car Carrier the "Cougar Ace" some 645 feet long and carrying some 5000 cars from Japan to Canada began taking on water and listing. Currently it is resting at about a 90 degree list with the side of the ship some 150 feet out of the water.

There is reported to be 1 broken leg amoung the 22 man crew.

The USCG has dispatched the cutter Rush from it's normal Hawaiian patrol 700 miles to the north to assist. As well as deploying Alaskan based aircraft to Adak to assist. However the Alaska Air National Guard has been called in and actually airlift the crew off the vessel. Their helicopters are cabable of air refueling and making the 1000 mile journy out to the accident site.As many as 6 Air Force Para-Rescue teams may be involved in the rescue.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/8000744p-7893827c.html

http://www.uscgalaska.com/clients/c780/60606.jpg




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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13249 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2409 times:
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Best of luck to the USCG and the crew of the Cougar Ace. Hopefully the biggest tragedy here will be a late delivery of Camrys to Vancouver.

Edit - holy crap! I didn't realize it was THIS bad. MSNBC is reporting the whole crew has been safely evacuated though.



[Edited 2006-07-25 09:26:55]


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20322 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

Wow, I'd heard there were problems when I watched the news earlier, but hadn't heard they were abandoning ship. Hope all the crew gets off safely, it looks like this ship is a goner.


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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5520 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2393 times:

I hope these guys get off the ship safely.

User currently offlineFlyMatt2Bermud From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 563 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

I couldn't believe the statement pertaining to 90% listing. The photo confirms it.
To the rescue crews out there, 'may the force be with you!'



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User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

Being in the car shipping business myself, this news really struck our office. Hope the rescue mission will work alright and the crew will be safe. Material damage can be replaced (even though this will be a tough one, for sure).

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2372 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 1):
MSNBC is reporting the whole crew has been safely evacuated though.

Kudos to the magnificent 210th Air Rescue Squadron, Alaska Air National Guard . . . . a stellar operation. None finer in the Air Force IMO.

I've flown with the 210th boys . . . got some great photos in one of the PaveHawks doing an air refuel. I'll have to scan them and post them some time.

Way to go 210th!


User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 1):
Hopefully the biggest tragedy here will be a late delivery of Camrys to Vancouver.

Judging from the photos we've seen, I doubt many - if any - of the cars on that ship will ever see the light of a showroom floor.

According to Coast Guard sources, the list was created during a transfer of ballast water. Obviously someone turned the wrong valve.....

[Edited 2006-07-25 14:30:24]

User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

I can imagine theres one (or several) pissed off insurance company out there about this.

Good to know the crew are alright.


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6):
Kudos to the magnificent 210th Air Rescue Squadron, Alaska Air National Guard

I 2nd that!!! Great Job Guys...

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6):
I've flown with the 210th boys . . . got some great photos in one of the PaveHawks doing an air refuel. I'll have to scan them and post them some time.

I'm looking forward to seeing em ANC.

-Zaki


User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2310 times:

Okay, so the crew was saved, but the ship is lost. Certainly better than the opposite way.

About the damage - 5,000 cars for an average (guessed) $15,000 per unit, makes $75m. Plus the ship loss, plus the rescue mission costs.

Best part is if shippers did not cover a transport insurance. Many try to "save" some money, unaware of the fact that in case of a "general average" they do not only lose their cargo, but even have to pay a proportional share for the rescue mission and accident costs.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 11, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2272 times:

Well as EA CO AS noted the crew is off the boat and actually is now in Anchorge.

Just some statistics.

6 USCG and AKANG aircraft involved.
Hoist operations lasted over hour-3 PJ's where lowered to the deck of the ship to help the guys off
100 Hours of flight time where accumulated by the rescue aircraft.
44 Coast and Air Guardsmen where involved directly with the rescue.

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 10):
Okay, so the crew was saved, but the ship is lost.

Actually the owners of the ship are talking to salvers right now and want to make an attempt to right the boat. The Rush will arrive on sight to monitor the ships condition until plans are finalized. Since the cars where strapped to the deck the ones on the uphill side may be fine.



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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

Did the ship finally sink...?


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2247 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 12):
Did the ship finally sink...?

Not as of the 6pm news here it hadn't.

As L-188 says, the company wants to try to right the ship. It's not holed, rather reports are that the crew was moving ballast water around and some valve went haywire . . .


User currently offlineLooneyToon From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 444 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 7):
Judging from the photos we've seen, I doubt many - if any - of the cars on that ship will ever see the light of a showroom floor.

Maybe not...Its common to see resold damaged cars here in Paraguay. I wouldn't be surprised if a salvage crew from who-knows-where, rescues the cars from the ocean bottom, places them on a boat, and sells them to crooked people.

Cars that were damaged during Hurricane Katrina and other crashed cars from the US have been shipped down here, fixed, then resold locally at dealerships. Sometimes, the cars are sold as "brand new" in the dealers.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2230 times:

I think the USCG is expecting this ship to keep floating for a while, that is why they went ahead and are bringing the Rush 700 miles north from Hawaii to look after it.

This ships design is probably saving it. That and they are more correctly calling it a 60 not a 90 degree list....See this photo

http://www.uscgalaska.com/clients/c780/60655.jpg

No portholes in the upper deck to break and let water in.

Oh I have a couple of video links.

1st was taken off the tailgate on one of the Herks. You can see some oil trailing and a flare off the bow of the ship.

http://www.piersystem.com/clients/c780/60607.MPG


This one is supposed to be of the hoisting operation, but I haven't been able to open it-wrong plug in I guess.

http://www.piersystem.com/clients/c780/60652.avi



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

Just watched the news tonight.

A salvage crew from Titan Marine is leaving Seattle tongiht to go to the ship-It will be about a week long trip to the ship's location.

Also if they do salvage the ship I would avoid buying Mazda cars, specificly the Mazda 3 and CR-7. It is reported that 80% of the ships cargo was made up of those types.

The value of the cars is estimated at 125 Million.



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2182 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):
I think the USCG is expecting this ship to keep floating for a while, that is why they went ahead and are bringing the Rush 700 miles north from Hawaii to look after it.

Which is basically a waste of time. If they want to save the ship, they need salvage tugs. The Rush isn't a salvage tug. And if it is being diverted from another patrol area, it likely will be low on fuel by the time it gets there.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2176 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 17):
If they want to save the ship, they need salvage tugs

Already coming from Seattle . . . but that's a long haul . . . won't be on station until next Tue/Wed according to KTUU.

Also, the ship was 700 miles south of the Aleutians, and well within the Rush' patrol area. Rush is already there, apparently, it wasn't too far away. It was on station during most of the rescue operation.

Edit:

I'd post the KTUU link but the clowns don't put current news on the web in the middle of a broadcast . . . have to do it after 1900 Alaska time.  irked 

[Edited 2006-07-27 03:50:55]

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):
Already coming from Seattle . . . but that's a long haul . . . won't be on station until next Tue/Wed according to KTUU.

Also, the ship was 700 miles south of the Aleutians, and well within the Rush' patrol area. Rush is already there, apparently, it wasn't too far away. It was on station during most of the rescue operation.

Understand that it will take time for the salvage tugs to arrive, but there isn't much the Rush can do until they arrive, since it has no heavy duty salvage gear, and no specialized training to deal with the particular casualty they are faced with.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2164 times:

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 19):
but there isn't much the Rush can do until they arrive, since it has no heavy duty salvage gear, and no specialized training to deal with the particular casualty they are faced with.

Agreed, it certainly isn't prepared to deal with a major fuel spill if it occurs, but at least it will be there to alert the appropriate folks that can . . . of course, prudence would have the "appropriate folks" already on their way. After the goat rope with the Seledang Ayu last year, you'd think some lessons might have been learned.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 9):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6):
I've flown with the 210th boys . . . got some great photos in one of the PaveHawks doing an air refuel. I'll have to scan them and post them some time.

I'm looking forward to seeing em ANC.

My bad, I had these alredy scanned and sitting in a different file in Photobucket.

Here's a refuel in the air aboard the 210th Air Rescue HH-60s.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/csmpep/HeloAerialRefuel.jpg


Note: Update on this ship.

It is apparently starting to drift toward land. Winds and ocean changes have started moving this thing about 2 knots speed toward one of the Aleutian Islands.

Channel 2 Link:
http://www.ktuu.com/cms/anmviewer.asp?a=5812&z=1

Anchorage Daily News Link:
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/8012649p-7905540c.html


User currently offlineLhrmaccoll From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

I saw about 3 of these massive car carriers when I was sailing in the solent last week.
They are so large its scary - god knows what its like to be involved in a situation like this with one!
Remember a couple of years ago when a ship like this carrying BMWs and Volvos sank?
The pictures of the motors after were scary!


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2047 times:

Unfortunate update. The ship has claimed it's first life

A Marine Archetect fell to his death trying to disembark the ship after dong a preliminary survey. He was working for the salvage company retained by the owners to right the ship.

Apparently while trying to disembark the freighter he slipped and fell 80 feet to the water.

Never regained conciousness



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User currently offlineLhrmaccoll From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

That is terrible, may he rest in peace  tombstone 

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