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F1: German Grand Prix  
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8466 posts, RR: 8
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

So the German Grand Prix to be held at Hockenheim for possibly the last time unless the organisers can persuade bernie to be part of a rotation system with the Nurgburgring.

Will Alonso return to his winning ways or will MS make it three in a row? Or will McLaren storm to the front with a dominating win on home soil (for Mercedes)

Also will we hear from Raikkonen next week as the apparent Ferrari pre-argeement is due to expire on Monday.

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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

It's high time(s) for a Renault comeback and the new RS26 evolutions shall (...) see to that.

UTA  checkeredflag 



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User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3379 times:

I don't like the new Hockenheim too much, the old one was far superior. They should have never altered it.

Anyway... Mclaren have apparently made fantastic progress over the last few weeks, so its possible they could be in contention. I believe in France they were some of the fastest cars on track, they just didn't get the results.

Quoting UTA_flyinghigh (Reply 1):
It's high time(s) for a Renault comeback and the new RS26 evolutions shall (...) see to that.

Anything to stop that smug pratt wining at his home GP!  Wink

Really, you would be stupid to discount Alonso as a contender for victory.

Adam

P.S. My first ITV race of the year - good coverage at last.


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Yes I smell a Renault come back!!! (and a Honda comeback :-P...yes I know, Im dreaming)

I hope Alonso wipes the smile of Shumachers face  Smile THat would be fun to watch.

Yes the ITV coverage is quite good. Especially Martin Brundles Grid Walk 15 minutes from the start. Always interupting other reporters! What a great guy Big grin



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User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 3):
Yes the ITV coverage is quite good. Especially Martin Brundles Grid Walk 15 minutes from the start. Always interupting other reporters! What a great guy

It is good, its not that biased unlike Rai is towards Ferrari - although they do like their Flav!

Adam


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3372 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 4):
It is good, its not that biased unlike Rai is towards Ferrari - although they do like their Flav!

Yes thats true. I have a choice of either ITV or RTE 2 coverage (which is Irish) however I prefer the ITV coverage as the commentating is definately much better...It used to be a million times better when Murray Walker was still commentating! Ahh the good old days!



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User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 5):
It used to be a million times better when Murray Walker was still commentating! Ahh the good old days!

Indeed - the mistakes he used to make where what made his commentary good.

Adma


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3367 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 6):
Indeed - the mistakes he used to make where what made his commentary good

Hahahahaha yea thats true. The current commonators also make quite afew mistakes but not as much as Murray. I think now Murray is working with Honda!

Quoting BA757 (Reply 2):
I don't like the new Hockenheim too much, the old one was far superior.

The good old days of Formula one 95 on the playstation!!!! Just driving over the grass at each chicane Big grin



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User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 7):
The good old days of Formula one 95 on the playstation!!!! Just driving over the grass at each chicane

 Smile
I was never a PlayStation kid much (despite having one), but I used to do the same on F1 '99 on the PC.

F1 Championship Challenge 99-2002 (PC) is pretty good despite it been old as you can have the old track variants as well as the new ones.

Adam


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3362 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 8):

I was never a PlayStation kid much (despite having one), but I used to do the same on F1 '99 on the PC.

F1 Championship Challenge 99-2002 (PC) is pretty good despite it been old as you can have the old track variants as well as the new ones.

I only ever really played F1 on my playstation.LOL. I played F1 95, then got F1 2000 then enjoyed it so much I got 2003 then 2005...and now waiting the 2006 version. Will be interesting to see how they manage to do the qualifying sessions. ONe thing that ennoys me about playstation F1 is the lack of computer crashes!

Anyhow, the German Grandprix is set to be a great race and hopefully, fi most cars are on form....the winner could be anyone



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13193 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

I would guess Montoya won't be there due to his premature announcement to jump to the USA's NASCAR. Maybe he likes to be with the 'good ol' boys' vs the pretentious F-1 people.
I believe M. Schumi will win at home again...sigh....Just hope it is a good, clean race (including the first turn) with some passing (yea, sure).


User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3340 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 9):
I only ever really played F1 on my playstation.LOL. I played F1 95, then got F1 2000 then enjoyed it so much I got 2003 then 2005...and now waiting the 2006 version. Will be interesting to see how they manage to do the qualifying sessions. ONe thing that ennoys me about playstation F1 is the lack of computer crashes!

I had the F1 games for N64, not teh best.

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 9):
Anyhow, the German Grandprix is set to be a great race and hopefully, fi most cars are on form....the winner could be anyone

So long as your name is Kimi, Fernando, Michael, or Scott*  Wink

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
Maybe he likes to be with the 'good ol' boys' vs the pretentious F-1 people.

You know, as a JPM fan I'm not sure if I want him to take teh championship or if I want him to be smashed into teh wall at Daytona for his act of treason...

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 3):
Yes the ITV coverage is quite good. Especially Martin Brundles Grid Walk 15 minutes from the start. Always interupting other reporters! What a great guy 

I'm happy SpeedTV finally made this part of their pre-race ceremonies, more fun that way.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
Just hope it is a good, clean race (including the first turn) with some passing (yea, sure).

Get Massa and Fisi to take one another out and let FA and MS go for it, that's be nice...

WEATHER: A wet track on Sunday!?

*nationalism may be biased


User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
I would guess Montoya won't be there due to his premature announcement to jump to the USA's NASCAR

He won't drive a Mclaren car again.

Pedro will do the driving for now, and maybe Hamilton or Paffet the last few races.

Adam

[Edited 2006-07-26 19:18:50]

User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 11):
Scott*

LOL actually he didn't do that badly in the last race. Nice to see Toro Rosso coming through and likewise with its founder team, Red Bull Racing



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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3328 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 13):
LOL actually he didn't do that badly in the last race. Nice to see Toro Rosso coming through and likewise with its founder team, Red Bull Racing

So long as STR beats RedBull.


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3322 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 14):
So long as STR beats RedBull.

LOL no way....other way around. Red Bull before hand. If STR start beating Red Bull... People will start looking at their Rev limited v10's!  Silly



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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3317 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 15):
LOL no way....other way around. Red Bull before hand. If STR start beating Red Bull... People will start looking at their Rev limited v10's!  

That's really why I want STR to win, to show teams didn't need to speand €1,000,000,000 to "cut costs" on engines. Not my problem if STR can do more with less  Wink


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 16):
That's really why I want STR to win, to show teams didn't need to speand €1,000,000,000 to "cut costs" on engines. Not my problem if STR can do more with less

LOL but the rev limited V10s were only ment for teams that were strapped for cash, such as minardi. Now that minardi is now STR, the contract really shouldn't be useabel. Also the v10's are an advantage as since they are running at lower revolutions than the v8, they should be slightly more reliable  Silly



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

BTW the BMW vertical wings are banned.


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User currently offlineBA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3314 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):
BTW the BMW vertical wings are banned.

I can't understand why they were allowed in the first place... didn't some team try this a few years ago at the Monaco GP which resulted in them been immediately banned for the reasons they are banned now?

Adam

[Edited 2006-07-26 22:51:57]

User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3308 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):

Ouch for BMW. Remember they had the big Walrus nose wing afew years back. Ugly!



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User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3302 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 18):
BTW the BMW vertical wings are banned.

ahh thanks for the heads up!

Here's the story:
http://www.formula1.com/news/4683.html

I wondered if it had any impact on the driver's vison.

Is everyone running Bridgestone? I thought I heard that...

Cheers,
Dave



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User currently offlineNosedive From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3302 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 17):
LOL but the rev limited V10s were only ment for teams that were strapped for cash, such as minardi. Now that minardi is now STR, the contract really shouldn't be useabel. Also the v10's are an advantage as since they are running at lower revolutions than the v8, they should be slightly more reliable  

Max's principle was to slow speeds and cut costs. Both of which could have been achieved for the 2006 yr w/ rev limiters.

Symonds has an interesting quote

Quote:
Tyres seem to be the talking point of the 2006 season. Why have they seemingly taken on such importance during this championship in particular?
PS: Tyres always were a dominant performance factor, and always will be. But in 2006, we have two teams, Renault and Ferrari, with their cars at a very similar level - and each of them is on a different tyre. Added to this is the fact that tyres play a bigger role in total performance than any other factor. For example, in France, a 5 percent increase in downforce would bring around 0.3s per lap; a 5 percent increase in tyre performance would bring more than a second a lap. When this characteristic is coupled with the apparently equality between the leading teams, then tyre performance becomes the keynote of the championship.

Jesus christ, if that's the case Bridgestone is well on teh ball!

The weather forecast now says a high around 28-29C on Sunday and partly cloudy skies. Might be wet for qualy. A bit cooler than it was in the past 2 races and may play into Michelin's hands... provided they don't fuck up the compounds... again.


User currently offlineDuff44 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3295 times:

Quoting BA757 (Reply 2):
I don't like the new Hockenheim too much, the old one was far superior. They should have never altered it.

Hermann Tilke (who neutered Hockenheim, and designed the no-character tracks in Malaysia, Turkey, and China)* needs to just go away.

* - This knock is against these particular circuits, NOT the countries they are in.

Bring back the old Hockenheim!!

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 7):

The good old days of Formula one 95 on the playstation!!!! Just driving over the grass at each chicane

Is that the version that has the tire-wall chicane on the long straight at Montreal? I can't tell you how many times I've generically wadded my car up on those motherhuffers....



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User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3314 posts, RR: 39
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3294 times:

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 23):
Is that the version that has the tire-wall chicane on the long straight at Montreal? I can't tell you how many times I've generically wadded my car up on those motherhuffers....

Ahhh I had forgotten about that. Yes thats right I destroyed my car there alot of times. I wonder if I could get past it any easier now!



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25 Post contains images Bill142 : Grand Prix 4 is the best F1 game. It's sad that the gaming licence is now exculsive to Sony. I think I can smell a PS3 later in the year. Yes, this i
26 Post contains images Duff44 : Plus, if they were to fall/break off they would pose a spear-type danger to the driver. If you've ever played "GTR", Enna-Pergusa has a chicane that'
27 Bill142 : This is also true. I do believe that after Sennas death the regs regarding helmets and components were improved to make them more resistant to this k
28 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Too late, has already been "renaturated" . Better start using the "Nordschleife" on the Nurburgring again .
29 Cornish : The big news according to this morning's new issue of Autosport magazine is that Williams is due to announce a three year deal to use Toyota engines t
30 Post contains links Cornish : And here is the Williams - Toyota confirmation: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5219520.stm
31 Post contains images TheSunseeker : The Boss is back! Michael Schumacher 's time has come...he will do it, AGAIN [Edited 2006-07-27 10:48:29]
32 Nosedive : " target=_blank>http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...0.stm 3 Years. So that's 2007, 2008, and 2009. So what happens in 2010 if/when that bullshit ru
33 Bill142 : Engine development freeze shouldn't have any impact on the relationship. Williams will be stuck with it regardless of who is supplying their engines.
34 Post contains images Cornish : and they will be Toyota badged engines and not Lexus ones as had been speculated before.
35 Nosedive : So, from what I understand is, that if the Toyota engine blows ass in 2008, Williams cannot dump the engine at the end of 2009 for say a better (2008
36 Cornish : If at the end of the three year contract they decide to buy Honda enigne sfor example then it means they will get the same spec as the Honda engines
37 Bill142 : I'm not in favour of this engine freeze rule either. I also don't really understand what is being frozen. Is the basic design being frozen without an
38 SlamClick : I just looked at Hockenheim on GoogleEarth and the image there looks quite different from the circuit pictures and diagrams elsewhere. The stadium end
39 Post contains images Jamesbuk : Yup thats the old track they changed it in 2001 (?) they cut away alot of the circle bit too look like this I prefer the newer version simply because
40 SlamClick : Thanks. I've tried all season long to G/E each track, turn on terrain and 'fly' myself around it. Poor substitute for driving it, even in a Miata but
41 Post contains links and images Jamesbuk : f1 site The lil red dots are on ride photos, gives you an idea for what you'll see, also the grey dots give you stats. At the top there are other rac
42 Post contains images Nosedive : Can't beat the blast through teh forrest!
43 Jamesbuk : But seriously were is the challenge in that!! anyone could drive that succesfully! all it is is acelllllllllllllllllllllleeeeeeeerrrrrrattttttttttttt
44 Legoguy : I think the new track is quite good. When racing on it on the playstation, the long curved straight provides great over taking and alot of the corners
45 Cornish : No I believe its the engine paramaters that are frozen - in other words the design limits are much stricter. Not a case that an engine is buit and if
46 Cornish : I also hear Michael Schumacher is busy denying that BMW have made an absolutely enormous offer for his services and that secret talks between his mang
47 Nosedive : Gotta have some balls to be right next to someone and see who gives up at teh chicane!
48 Post contains links Cornish : Jarno Trulli has signed a new Toyota contract - keeps him with the team up to 2009. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5114258.stm
49 Jamesbuk : So true he wont go out silently, he'll go out with a bang, so he'll either win another championship then go or wait till hes getting dominant then go
50 BA757 : It was a classic, they should stop bastardising circuits! Slipstreaming down the LONG straights, with overtaking into the chicanes. A bit like Indy's
51 Jamesbuk : I love the track layout at monza. looks really good and challenging, but the race track is not very wide!! youd barely be able to fit two cars side b
52 BA757 : Indeed it was - however I lost my CD for that a long time ago. I wish they would make a new game for the PC. I don't want an XBOX, PS3 or whatever as
53 Legoguy : Why did they change the old track. From memory, alot of the track was in dense forests with not many spectator stands around the middle of the track.
54 Bill142 : True. Geoff Crammond and Microprose have apparently shown little interest in developing a new PC game should they be able to. The EA versions weren't
55 BA757 : Courtesy of ITV-F1 It's not hard to see why BMW is so excited about its hot Polish prospect Robert Kubica as the 20-year-old once again set the fastes
56 Post contains images Emrecan : GO SCHUMI GO !!!!!! I believe we will watch a great GP and I am hoping Ferrari in 1st and 2nd place. McLaren Mercedes for 3rd and 4th.. For Balonso, n
57 Post contains images BA757 : You hope ! Adam
58 Bill142 : You know, even if MS wins every race for the rest of the year, as long as Alonso finnishes second in each of those races, he'll still win the champio
59 Duff44 : Edit: I'm a moron, X2 1 Raikkonen 1:14.070 Q3 2 Schumacher, M 1:14.205 Q3 3 Massa 1:14.569 Q3 4 Button 1:14.862 Q3 5 Fisichella 1:14.894 Q3 6 Barriche
60 Jamesbuk : Yeh but thats because they can run on next to nothing in fuel in the last session they have to run with the race amount so it an understandable diffe
61 Sudden : Schumi will have big troubles passing him to try to build up a good advantage over Alonso. GO KIMI! Aim for the sky! Sudden
62 BA757 : Great quali! If Mclaren get their strategy right, and baring any technical failures, I fail to see how anyone will stop Raikkonen tomorrow and its abo
63 Post contains images Legoguy : Way to go Kimi. It came out of nowhere. It took the ITV commentators a little while to realise just how good the time was when Kimi posted it! Also ni
64 Duff44 : Partly cloudy, 31ºC/88ºF (that's for Heidelberg, about 8km/5mi away)
65 BA757 : I suspect he has a low fuel load onboard, I mean, I would love that to be raw Mclaren/Mercedes speed, but I doubt it is. He has a nice clear road in
66 Jamesbuk : Yeh but theres Button and Barrichello in between them, and i think we all know how crap he is at race day, especially the start! Rgds --James--
67 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Add "Roadblock" Massa and "If Alonso only drives for himself, so will I" Fisichella . Should get quite interesting.
68 Emrecan : Great qual. for Ferrari.. As usual Kimi will have troubles and he will not finish the race as usual. McLaren is really dissappointing everyone this ye
69 Post contains links BA757 : Quoting Emrecan (Reply 68): Regarding Balonso, again he behaved very spoiled today. He was complaining about Schumacher`s move during pitstops You kno
70 Jamesbuk : What happened i only saw the last 5 mins? (between schumi and balonso0 Rgds --James--
71 BA757 : Michael almost drove into him in the pitlane, so he could get out first. Micheal should have just waited until it was clear. Adam
72 Post contains images Legoguy : Lol whys everyone call him Balonso? Am I missing something? And I don't think Alonso was that spoilt today... what shumacher did (or his lolly pop guy
73 BA757 : Emrecan started it! Alonso is a 'lucky balloon' is he not, Emrecan?
74 Sudden : Hm, Strange to see him on the official endresult after almost every race without having DNF after his name then!? Aim for the sky! Sudden
75 Waterpolodan : Maybe not, but play some of the mods made for F1 Challenge like the RH 2005 season, it is very detailed and as realistic an F1 sim as I've come acros
76 BA757 : They said on the TV today a Mclaren hasn't won here since 1998! I didn't realise it was so long. Hopefully tomorrow that will change. Adam
77 Legoguy : Surely they won a good few races last year did they not!?!?!
78 BA757 : Yes... I was talking about Hockenheim. Of course they have won a good few races since 1998, they won the championship since then! Adam
79 Legoguy : LOL, my bad. I didn't read the 'here' part. Sorry. Would be nice to see them win this year (and keep shumacher from winning) So is there any chance t
80 Post contains links BA757 : Quoting Legoguy (Reply 79): LOL, my bad. I didn't read the 'here' part. Sorry. Would be nice to see them win this year (and keep shumacher from winnin
81 Bill142 : woot go Kimi!! Can I smell a McLaren win?!?!?! They submitted the T-car for scrutineering with them fitted and it passed. However Renault have taken t
82 Post contains images Waterpolodan : Bill's right, but it was in the late 70s/early 80s when those were run and subsequently banned... when Lotus created the 78 for the 1977 season, they
83 Post contains images Duff44 : The biggest thing with skirt was if that they broke, you lost a LOT of downforce very quickly. Kind of like the wing falling off...
84 BA757 : Thanks. I understood already what the 'skirts' did, I was just unsure whether the proper name for them was in fact skirts, which it appears it is. Wh
85 Bill142 : They still are crazy times. Teams will always find innovative ways of gaining an advantage and the FIA will always ban it. Renault have had a few inn
86 BA757 : Great race. A good recovery drive from Raikkonen with some fantastic battling and overtaking with Webber and Button. Result: 1) MS 2) FM 3) KR Adam
87 Duff44 : Result 1) M Schumacher 2) F Massa 3) K Raikkonen 4) J Button 5) F Alonso 6) G Fisichella 7) J Trulli 8) C Klien - Webber was running fourth late in th
88 Emrecan : Great weekend for Ferrari. At the moment the championship is more excited. It was also a good result for Raikkonen. I am really sad for Webber.
89 Duff44 : He should either jump to Red Bull (which will have Adrian Newey designing) or demand from Williams that every time the car breaks his salary gets dou
90 Jamesbuk : You sure it was hydraulics because when it is that normally makes the back wheels lock. GReat result today!! Rgds --James--
91 Legoguy : Yay for Button! Finally right up there again. Great result for Kimi and unlucky for Webber. He could go to Renault as he is managed by Flav... That wo
92 MD11Engineer : I used to work with a guy in CGN who went to the same car mechanic's school as the Schuhmacher brothers (their hometown Kerpen is just about 20 km wes
93 Duff44 : They use hydraulics in a lot of engine systems, IIRC. They mentioned something about it on SpeedChannel... Maybe it just "done blowed up"???
94 Waterpolodan : Well, his get out of my way attitude wasn't much of an issue today, he had clear sailing from the moment Kimi pitted on lap 9! A couple thoughts... I
95 Post contains images Duff44 : So? I remember him accidentally hitting a guy coming in... Just like Senna did with Prost and vice-versa? Just like Rene Arnoux did with everybody? I
96 Post contains images Legoguy : Ive never seen the incident from that angle before. Schumacher doesn't even acknowledge that he hits him he just sits there! I think his attitude suc
97 SlamClick : Just precisely what do you think he should have done. I'm not asking what you think he should have felt or any other such abstraction. I mean DONE. A
98 Duff44 : You'll know by Monza On the flip side he may want to go out on top, or maybe try his hands at something else. (Sports cars, GT, etc) Slipping? What t
99 Waterpolodan : As much as I'd love to see him at Le Mans or in the ALMS, he has stated before that the only racing series in which the safety standards are suitable
100 Post contains images Legoguy : Im not saying he should have stopped but he could have at least waved or something to say sorry... Still no doubt he said sorry afterwards But surely
101 Bill142 : Yes but it's not in the spirit of sport, which apparently it's supposed to be a friendly thing. But we all know the days of beating the crap out of e
102 Duff44 : Well they sure got that one wrong.... Is that like the 'spirit' of the regulations? The only team other than Ferrari showing interest (supposedly) is
103 Bill142 : We all know that at the end of the day F1 is a pretty dirty sport. But I was making more of a reference to professional sport in general. I don't kno
104 Post contains images Cornish : Well I for one am fed up with this season. I've followed the sport avidly since the early 80s (I can remember the skirts myself) and now I'm finding b
105 Bill142 : Hey Cornish. Do you want to help me push Max Mosley down a set of stairs?
106 Post contains images Cornish : My pleasure Bill
107 Andreas : Couldn't have said it better....I've reached this point in my personal Sunday planning years ago...and I stopped going to GPs tracks even more years
108 Legoguy : I must admit the racing can be abit dull as when i look back over this year, I have been finding the saturdays more exciting than the race! You have
109 Post contains images Cornish : and thank god the weather has been so good this summer. Meant I haven't given F1 in the afternoon a second glance - why should I when i can tape the
110 Bill142 : It's becoming increasingly clear that the powers that be have no idea what they are doing. More concerned about their back pocket then those who actua
111 BA757 : You are absolutely right. Last season was far more entertaining than this season, whether that was to do with tyre changes been disallowed I don't kn
112 Cornish : Actually a far better candidate for the job is Flavio Briatore. In numerous interviews I've seen or heard he's been outspoken about the fact that F1
113 Bill142 : Flavio comes from more of a commercial management background unlike the rest of the team owners who have pretty much known only how to run racing tea
114 Cornish : Exactly - and he has made that very point before. And he is very forthright on the need to keep the spectators happy. If they switch off, then the ma
115 Bill142 : Thats right. They understand their market. With all the politics in F1 that seems to have slipped away.
116 SlamClick : I highly recommend it. Clearly you are not enjoying it, so move on. What are you on about? There has never been an F1 race in the history of the spor
117 Andreas : Amen! And THAT is something F1 management doesn't seem to comprehend!!
118 SlamClick : A team willing to pay the money for Schumi would get a proven stud, so to speak. If the car is not hopeless he can take it in serious pursuit of a ch
119 BA757 : I can't remember the exact details, but a few months ago when there was questions over Renault pulling out of F1, there was rumours that Schumacher w
120 SlamClick : Hey! Great idea! We could have: Red Bull Racing - Ferrari engines Scuderia Toro Rosso - Cosworth engines Rote Stiermannschaft - Mercedes engines They
121 Waterpolodan : By which I hope you mean, "there has never been an F1 race in the history of the sport from the 1980s on", because from the 1950s until the early 198
122 Bill142 : If he's going for money the clearly he's not interested. Your right that he has plenty of experience but you also have to consider the culture of eac
123 Post contains images BA757 : Yes I know - that's why I said before when there was uncertainty's Adam
124 Bill142 : clearly the education system has failed me.
125 Cornish : Yes i meant tyre changes - blame Monday morning posting for that one. to be fair - the new shortened Hockenheim is much better for overtaking than mo
126 Post contains images Jamesbuk : Erm i believe the strategic error was the fact he spent 12 seconds in one pitstop because the rear right wheel nut wouldnt go on as it was "sticky" s
127 Bill142 : Alonso's move on Schumi at 130R was simply spectacular as was Kimi's move on Fisi at first curve. Kimis move Alonsos move
128 Post contains images Legoguy : The commentators from the first video suck! It mkaes me appreciate having the ITV commentators!
129 Waterpolodan : Cornish, it actually is quite feasible to have an F1 race without any pitstops of any kind... as I said earlier in the thread, all F1 races from 1950
130 Post contains images BA757 : I have and its awful, Speed's are much better, but then ITV's are even better Adam
131 Cornish : Absolutely right Waterpolodan. It was Brabham with their early BMW Turbo cars that introduced the refuelling pitstops in mid-1982. Their championship
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