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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2304 times:

Hey All,

I just got back from an advanced screening of "World Trade Center". I must say it was pretty good, it wasn't hammed up at all like your typical Hollywood flick and it wasn't another "America! Fuck Yeah!!" type movie either. It really just focused on the actual events and what the first responders and their families had to endure.

I recommend seeing it.

Kris


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User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2300 times:

The trailers look good. I plan to see it.

User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Is this the film with Nicholas Cage? Any links to some trailers?


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User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2265 times:

Yes, Cage is one of the leads..saw a brief piece on local BOS news about it...the screenwriter is from near BOS as I recall..

It's only the second movie I plan to see in a long while...I missed UA-93 due to work, but lately, the only movies that interest me are those that are reality based...which leaves out 99% of all movies...



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User currently offlineTuRbUleNc3 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

If it was anything like United 93 , ill be watching it!

User currently offlineTootallsd From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 559 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2214 times:
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So, I'm curious -- not attacking -- why do we need this movie? Some of you have an interest in seeing it, certainly the thread-starter was interested enough to turn up at an advance screening.

Last night, after the trailer finished running, I looked up and said out loud, "What do we need that for?" Clearly that reflects my opinion and so I'm curious about why people feel differently.

Please note: in saying we don't need a movie like this, I am not even thinking that the government or some other body should censor the movie in any way.


User currently offlineMD80fanatic From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2660 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2207 times:

We don't need a movie like this, or any other. Why must a movie fill a need, anyway? I think it's a great idea, as long as the story is accurate to the best of our knowledge. The last thing American's should do is to relegate 9-11 into the mists of time...the images should be kept fresh as long as there are American boys dying as a result of it.

User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12241 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2204 times:
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I have seen previews, and it looks like a movie I'd want to see. We'll see if I drag my ass to a theatre though, or wait until it comes out on DVD.


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User currently offlineStormbringer From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2195 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 2):
Any links to some trailers?

http://imdb.com/title/tt0469641/

Anyone remember the name of the documentry that a French filmmaker did when he just happened to be with the firefighters that day?



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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

You can bet your left testicle that 1) on September 12, 2001, every producer or wannabe movie maker out there was foaming at the mouth at this so-called "opportunity" and, 2) these movies have nothing to do whatsoever with "remembering history" "commemorating the victims/heroes", etc. 9/11, like so many other events has turned into a cottage industry and this movie represents nothing more than crass commercialization a tragic event. Nothing more. Nothing less. Don't get me wrong. I support capitalism as much as anyone. But is there ANY decency left? Forget about whether or not a movie like this COULD be done. Did anyone ask if we should?

I ask that last question tongue-in-cheek. I know that when "United 93" came out, lots of people were asking the same question. If the traditional Establishment says we shouldn't do something, you know it's going to be done. People still haven't figured out that the best path to success and popularity is controversy. More to the point: if the Christians hadn't made such a huge fuss over "Brokeback Mountain", it probably wouldv'e been a bomb. But they screamed and moaned about how "immoral" and "indecent it is, thus ensuring it would be a box office smash.

Every person old enough to understand what was going on that day (say 10 yrs of age and older) will remember that day and the aftermath with crystal clear sharpness for the rest of their lives. For those who were too young to remember as well as future generations, that event was probably documented more than any other in human history. One could literally spend a lifetime browing the endless archives of news stories, op-eds, pictures, video, etc.

9/11 WILL NEVER be forgotten.

So tell me again why we need this movie?

Oh yeah....Americans DO have short memories. Maybe I stand corrected. Maybe everyone already has forgotten. Besides, CNN is boring. We'd rather have the Jerry Briuckenheimer "truth". It's more entertaining (truth content or lack thereof notwithstanding).


User currently offlineStormbringer From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

So we should never make any movies based on history then?


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User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

Much like UA93, why would I want to see a movie that I already know how it ends?

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2155 times:

So we should never make any movies based on history then?

Has anyone else noticed the following trend?

Back in the day when historical movies/documentaries were made, at the opening of the film would be the caption "Based on a true story". And the producers usually tried to stick as close to the known truth as possible.

Today there has been a subtle shift. Now they say INSPIRED by a true story.

You know what that tells me?

That probably no more than 10% of the movie is based on fact. The producers took a single true situation and then carved it up, omitted certain parts and added fictitious ones to create a "better" story that has better "entertainment value" to it thus turning a real story into basically a work of fiction.


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

Quoting Senorcarnival (Reply 11):
Much like UA93, why would I want to see a movie that I already know how it ends?

So you don't watch any of the great historical movies? That's too bad, you're missing out.

Harry



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User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2142 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 12):

Back in the day when historical movies/documentaries were made, at the opening of the film would be the caption "Based on a true story". And the producers usually tried to stick as close to the known truth as possible.

The trailer says, "A true story." However, that doesn't mean it's true. Everything, and I mean everything on the screen is entertainment first, be it documentaries, news, or Spongebob.

I'm going to see this film for it's entertainment value, not because of it's historical perspective.

BAB



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 14):

The trailer says, "A true story." However, that doesn't mean it's true. Everything, and I mean everything on the screen is entertainment first, be it documentaries, news, or Spongebob.

I've noticed that the historical movies haven't been as cheesily dramatized since the disaster that was Pearl Harbor, but it's still nothing like it used to be.

Harry



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12241 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2138 times:
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Quoting Newark777 (Reply 15):
I've noticed that the historical movies haven't been as cheesily dramatized since the disaster that was Pearl Harbor, but it's still nothing like it used to

I started watching that one in hopes of a good movie along the lines of Saving Private Ryan, Windtalkers etc. Turned it off after about 15 minutes.



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User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 15):

I've noticed that the historical movies haven't been as cheesily dramatized since the disaster that was Pearl Harbor, but it's still nothing like it used to be.

Lol, that's my point. People think that since a movie is set in WWII Pearl Harbor, that it's purpose must be to accurately reproduce the environment as it was on that day for the benefit of future generations, then are upset because there was drama.

For Christ's sake, it's a fucking movie! If you want to learn about Pearl Harbor, go spend some time in your library's non-fiction area.

BAB



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User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17428 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Quoting VonRichtofen (Thread starter):
It really just focused on the actual events and what the first responders and their families had to endure.

Sounds fantastic...almost like the real thing  Yeah sure

Quoting Stormbringer (Reply 10):
So we should never make any movies based on history then?

Why do we need a flippin' movie when you can read/watch/experience the real thing ad nauseum? It irritates me so much that people need a movie when they could just f*($#ng PAY ATTENTION instead, for free.



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User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 50
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 16):
Windtalkers

Did you just call "Windtalkers" a good movie?!?

BAB  spit 



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User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2121 times:

Sounds fantastic...almost like the real thing

Sort of like NASCAR....that's also pretty neat. It's almost just like the REAL racing we do on our PS2's.


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12241 posts, RR: 35
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2121 times:
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Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 19):
Did you just call "Windtalkers" a good movie?!?

I was trying to think of war movies I have seen and didn't despise. Give me a break Big grin



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 19):

Did you just call "Windtalkers" a good movie?!?

The only good part of that movie was watching Christian Slater's head get lopped off.  Wink

Quoting BaylorAirBear (Reply 17):
then are upset because there was drama.

It wasn't just that it was drama. It was bad drama.

Harry



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User currently offline808TWA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 701 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

The way that things are going in this world of late, sadly it's only a short matter of time before we see some horrific disaster of the same, if not greater magnitude than that experienced on 9/11.

With the number of documentaries which were produced after 9/11 using real live footage, interviews with survivors and victims families, personally I feel there is no need to rub anymore salt in the wounds with a movie, which will likely not capture the sheer scale of horrific disaster or the human suffering of 9/11.

Let it live on in our hearts, not in the pockets of some Hollywood big-wigs ($$$$).

-Alan



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13074 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

This movie focuses on the real life miracle of 2 men, the only buried survivors of the WTC attacks and collapse. Of course, not all of the movie will be absolutely perfect as to what happened, there will be some artistic license and that is the nature of all movies, but it appears to be a great salute to these survivors and all those 'first responders whom didn't. I don't suspect this movie is going to do a great profit and would rather it didn't. Still the story was one of the few good ones with the horrors of what happened there.
100's of movies and TV programs are about individuals and groups whom have survived war, criminal acts and natural disasters and we don't make a big of a deal as to those situations being 'exploited'. I am concerned with the director of this movie and his history in "JFK" and it's conspiracies storyline, but the vibe so far suggests that isn't the case here.


25 Okelleynyc : I'm sure it's going to be a great movie, but I won't be watching it for now; maybe later. It all seems just like yesterday to me. It's still too soon
26 BaylorAirBear : It's a movie, for entertainment purposes!!!!! It's not supposed to "capture the sheer scale of horrific disaster or the human suffering of 9/11!!!!!"
27 PSA53 : Yes and no.Yes on"Tora!Tora!Tora!" was an excellent film providing insight of how Washington and the diplomatic and intelligent departments worked at
28 Matt D : It's a movie, for entertainment purposes!!!!! It's not supposed to "capture the sheer scale of horrific disaster or the human suffering of 9/11!!!!!"
29 Post contains images BaylorAirBear : Indeed! BAB
30 EA CO AS : Did you go see Titanic, or avoid it for the same "I know how it ends" rationale? No matter - it was only the single biggest grossing film in history,
31 808TWA : Then, with that being said...Would you not agree that the subject matter may be just a little inappropriate? Personally, watching a movie on a subjec
32 Newark777 : That's what movies are supposed to do, produce an emotional response and have an impact on you. And since when did the movie industry care about subj
33 Vikkyvik : Dude, relax, let people enjoy what they enjoy. You don't have to enjoy it. By that logic, I shouldn't be watching sports, cause I could be playing sp
34 PSA53 : Interesting of new facts about the "ship broke in two" and "big gash" theories coincided with the release of "Titanic" came into play probably had a
35 808TWA : 9/11 did not affect soldiers in their line of duty, which most war movies reflect, but the average civilian who was going about their normal day-to-d
36 Legoguy : I am looking forward to this film as I have the trailers and it looks great. I believe films like this should be made as it tells the story from the p
37 Post contains images Newark777 : How long are you supposed to wait, 22.3 years? Seriously, though, 9/11 is talked about so much as it is with Middle East terrorism, War on Terror, et
38 MaverickM11 : No it would be like watching a movie about the game you can watch live on TV, or a movie about a band loosely based on your favorite band that you ca
39 GDC2006 : I'll be watching this film mainly because I am a Nicholas Cage devotee. 9/11 touched me in a personal and private way, nowhere near the way it touched
40 Post contains images BaylorAirBear : The movie isn't about 9/11 or the world trade center. It's about two dudes that got trapped when the buildings collapsed. 9/11 just sets the scene. B
41 MaverickM11 : That makes it even less interesting.
42 Matt D : No it would be like watching a movie about the game you can watch live on TV, or a movie about a band loosely based on your favorite band that you can
43 Post contains links Mt99 : Anyone see it yet? Im going w friends tonite. Good reviews so far. I particlulary like Richards Roper's opening paragraphs: "It would be my great plea
44 Redngold : So how many of you actually saw the movie, before you started criticizing it? *SPOILERS FOLLOW* I just saw it. It was very contemplative. The writing
45 AGC525 : Here's a article from one of the local newspapers in PIT. Small world since I know some of the 911 folks listed below, and I live in Munhall. Sister i
46 JFKspotter : Not trying to run off topic, but twenty people were actually dug out from the rubble after the collapses. I saw the movie, and as a first responder m
47 IFEMaster : The negativity on this thread is mindblowing. Some of you nay-sayers and pessimists need to lighten up. Seriously. I know two people directly affected
48 FlyUSCG : I personally will not be seeing the movie. No grand reason or anything, just dont feel the need. As other people have said, most of us remember the ev
49 Scamp : And then, could someone shoot her in the head? I would be more than happy to foot the bill for that person's defense. Hell, half the people in Americ
50 Scamp : I'm voting "none." It's so much cheaper to criticize something some people know little or nothing about.
51 FRAspotter : I saw the movie last night. One of the best true story movies I have ever seen. I can't even imagine what was going through those family member's head
52 Post contains links and images Scbriml : It shouldn't be, but it seems a lot of people can't remember when it happened! http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1980410,00.html I
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