DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 48 Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2505 times:
Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 8): Walmart is just the company we love to hate. "Everybody" hates Walmart, yet the parking is ALWAYS a zoo, and there are ALWAYS people shopping there, even at 3-4 am.
It's the same with McDonalds. Supposedly, around 110% of this planet's population absolutely hates McD's from the bottom of their hearts, yet McD's continues to grow, make more money, and sell more burgers. Most people who hate something like McD or Wal-Mart just say that because it's the "in" thing to do.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12675 posts, RR: 13 Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2500 times:
They made a serious mistake going into Germany in the first place. They could never force their 'American' style of treating employees and shop hours there. Germany has very rigid labor laws and retail shop hours, along with strong business and consumer support for them that they never could challange or change. They have been far more successful in the UK when they took over Asda as the UK is far more flexible as to labor utilization and retail shop hours. For those that bash WalMart, are they really that much worse than Target, K-Mart and other 'big box' retail stores as to treatment of their employees and how they affect the communities they have stores in?
PSA727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 974 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2426 times:
I must admit that I've gone to Berlin's Neukoelln location a few times, as
well as the one in Essen's Porsche Platz. They were always busy, but
I do think that being restricted from setting their own operating hours
prevented them from maximizing their potential revenue.
However, I will always be faithful to Real Supermarkt. They are my first
choice for grocery shopping (except for fruits and vegetables).
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7623 posts, RR: 38 Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2371 times:
I find that the Wal Marts in Germany are in comparison to it's North American counterparts (from a shoppers point of view). Most of the Wal Marts in NA are more of a department store with a smaller grocery section. Lots of good prices on a large selection of clothes, household items, electronics, etc. Most of the Wal Marts I shopped at in Germany, were the complete opposite. Large grocery section with the other departments being much, much smaller.
The prices in Germany were quite reasonable to other stores such as REAL, but if there is one thing that Germany has alot of, its discount grocery stores. I'm sure it was quite hard for Wal Mart to compete with the likes of Aldi, Lidl, Penny Markt and the bunch. Could this also have been a factor?
MD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13602 posts, RR: 63 Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2366 times:
Compared to Walmarts in the US I've seen the German counterparts seem to be cleaner as well. Maybe especially German housewives have a lower tolerance for dirt than their American counterparts and would refuse to go shopping in a dirty store.
Clipperhawaii From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2033 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2362 times:
The German consumer loses and Wal*Mart makes a good decision as it had...
1. Language barriers.
2. Difficulty with German labor and their unions (Wal*Mart is not unionized)
3. Stagnant German consumer spending (No growth)
4. Wal*Mart's business strategies did not work in Germany
A very good business decision on Wal*Mart's part. The shareholders are happy to dump Germany believe me.
This is not really relevant, since other US companies are successful in Germany, last was Starbucks, and I admit that it did surprise me to see the quick expansion of Starbucks in Germany against the background of a very strong competition. In the case of Starbucks, being American supposedly helped.
Oldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 1995 posts, RR: 4 Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2280 times:
The main reason for their billion Dollar loss was their arrogant entrance on the market. They didn`t make analyses of the conditions in Germany. They came and expected to conquer a market without any clue about it and underestimated the competition. Analysts criticised their appearance from the beginning.
Walmart stores are incredibly ugly on the outside, and unkempt on the inside. Only K mart is worse. On the other hand, Target stores in the US are just the opposite - and they manage to make a profit while maintaining low prices.
Quoting Oldeuropean (Reply 19): But loosing on the third greatest market in the world in such a mournful way should be a shame for this spoiled company (actually for every company) and some heads should roll now at Wal Mart.
Maybe heads should roll, but I find it refreshing that not every country is going to look alike. When we went to Ireland two years ago, the only McDonalds we saw was at Shannon, and we saw no (yea!) Starbucks. Don't get me wrong, I like Starbucks, but I don't want to see one on every street corner of the globe.
Oldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 1995 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2242 times:
Quoting Halls120 (Reply 20): Walmart stores are incredibly ugly on the outside, and unkempt on the inside. Only K mart is worse. On the other hand, Target stores in the US are just the opposite - and they manage to make a profit while maintaining low prices.
Sorry, I used the wrong word. I meant more: Analyst criticised their acting from the beginning.
But you are right. Their stores are really ugly and unkempt. Even more than Aldi stores.
Oldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 1995 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2235 times:
Quoting Greasespot (Reply 21): For the Germans on here...Do you see this as a good thing or bad thing?
Here is a strong competition by different companys, which are even cheaper than Wal Mart, and many others on Wal Marts price level (and indeed others more expensive). It`s a strong and tough market. Nobody misses Wal Mart or will miss the next looser. We can shop everywhere for every price we want. (Cheap or luxurious goods)
Wer wenig weiss muss vieles glauben
25 NoUFO: Couldn't care less. I often avoid supermarkets in general and buy groceries on a market, a farmer's market that is. Some things Wal Mart - in my opin
26 Texasaggie: What led you to believe I thought it was American? I was wanting to know about the popular opinion of Aldi in Germany.
27 DAL767400ER: That really depends. The Wal-Mart I usually go to is usually very clean and in good condition, whereas my 2 local Aldis are, well, 2 POS's: Dirty flo
28 Oldeuropean: Well, Aldi is cheap, but the range in the repertoire isn`t large. But 2 times a week they have special offers. Sometimes PCs, digital cameras, printe
29 DAL767400ER: Actually, they were more recognized as the shops of the Turkish population in Germany .
30 Clipperhawaii: I forgot to add that Germany's very difficult regulatory environment makes it hard to open large Wal*Mart type stores and thus Wal*Mart's low prices d
31 ACDC8: As far as store cleanliness goes, I can't say anything for the US stores, but the stores up here in Canada are very clean, very bright and open. A ver
32 Klaus: Rubbish. They weren't up to the fierce competition in a tough market and got a bloody nose for their arrogant approach. I've always avoided WalMart l
33 Oldeuropean: They have scanners for years and you also can pay with a card. Once, they haven`t had scanners, the cashiers were famous for knowing the price of eve
34 Solnabo: Germany must be infested with LIDL, so they don´t need more übercheap supermarkets on german soil..... Micke/SWE
35 LTU932: Loved and hated, much like Walmart, only more popular and by far more successful. But then again, Walmart has a different business model than Aldi, s
36 Klaus: Goes to show how long it's been since I've shopped there...
37 Halls120: That is an extremely lame excuse. It was up to Walmart to become aware of the regulatory environment of Germany before they invested. Even if Germany
38 Clipperhawaii: What? Intrusive? Care to explain that? More like hog wash like the rest of the anti-Wal Mart "they should be unionized" press and goons say. That's j
39 Klaus: I hope your prejudices keep you warm at night... The section of their employee regulations which caused quite a stir in Germany was the snooping into
40 Halls120: Well, if Wal Mart's business model has to be unchanged when it is exported, and they aren't going to take into account the fact that it might not wor