Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7508 posts, RR: 49 Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2705 times:
This is something that struck me. I was reading this early this morning about the "war" in Lebanon. And this gives pretty compelling argument, that some of the local Lebanese maybe putting themselves in harms way purposely to inflict casualties to advance the cause. It seems interesting to see people, or "emergency respondants", posing for the camera amongst the bodies and the rubble, almost as if they were making themselves ready and waiting for the photo to be snapped. Did someone yell out, "say cheese"? And others, taking pictures of this guy in almost every frame holding up the dead bodies of children like it was a Stanley Cup trophy or cradling them like a stork baby. These were pictures taken by a few different news outlets, but how can this guy be in every picture if these are random attacks or devestation? Now, this is only a theory posed by this blogger(who is European, BTW), but what if, just what if, this was true? In each frame, the same "civil defense worker" appears each picture except for maybe one, he's everywhere, no dirt or flies on him. Can these victims really be confirmed as dead, or could they actors brought to the scene of devestation, throw abit of powder on them to make them look dead? They're pictured at several conflicting times with this guy wearing different things. Mildly interesting. I posted this link in another site, but I figured this could use some attention of it's own considering the inaccuracies pointed out by the author of the blog. Here are some of the disturbing photos, right? Well, read the blog the below and read what unfolds and unravels the story. http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/07/milking-it.html
I know many of our fellow A.netters in the Mid East, and around (the terrorist-sympathising) world will Poo-poo this as a zionist attempt to swing public opinion in the direction of Israel. But in the end, who really is wrong here, who broke the current, decade+ long cease-fire with the Israelis? Hezbollah is, for abducting the 2 Israeli soldiers from their post. The Lebanese gov't is, for not getting rid of these Hezbollah yobbs to operate out of Southern and NW Lebanon the first case. The number of Lebanese civilians who pledge their allegiance to Hezbollah, or better yet, the Iranians, the Syrians who're orchestrating this "jihad" and the destruction of Israel. Let's not kid ourselves. Maybe we should blame ourselves for allowing terrorism to flourish, and not holding to account the gov'ts around the world who want to negotiate and lend merit/creedence with terrorist's like Yassir Arafat, Bashar Assad, Mahmoud Amhadinejad, Saddam Hussien, Osama Bin Laden and a host of others.
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2665 times:
It's actually the Palestinians who are notorious for pretty elaborate PR stunts. After the fighting in Jenin in 2002 subsided (and after the western journalists and documentarians finished filming), it turned out that the actual death toll was three times smaller than Palestinian officials claimed (the 3x rule strikes again).
Then there was the time the dead body jumped up and ran away spooked by nearby fighting.
Burying empty coffins is also in the repertoire.
HOWEVER, I have yet to see anything that would suggest that something of this sort has or is taking place in Lebanon. I also have no reason to believe that the Qana tragedy did not take place as it was reported. I WOULD like to know what happened in the 7 hours or so, that supposedely elapsed between the time the IDF bombed the building, and the time it actually collapsed. And just in case somebody entirely misses the point, I am NOT accusing anyone of anything, or suggesting that this or that took place, I just want to know.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2647 times:
Quoting Jetjack74 (Thread starter): And this gives pretty compelling argument, that some of the local Lebanese maybe putting themselves in harms way purposely to inflict casualties to advance the cause.
Wagging the dog in an arena such as this would take planning and cooperation on an enormous scale, as no one knows what will be hit next. One would have to assume that Hezbollah or the Lebanese to be making these hits on their own people for this anything else along these lines to be plausible.
Quoting Jetjack74 (Thread starter): These were pictures taken by a few different news outlets, but how can this guy be in every picture if these are random attacks or devestation?
Agencies such as Getty Images purposely follow the same person around for a few hours or a day at a time to create a montage of what is going on for archival and news purposes. Others act as pool reporters in dangerous areas. It's not uncommon at all to have the work of one agency purchased that would include repetitive shots of the same person, if they were the subject of a photo essay.
It's not so much the pictures of the Hezbollah operating from civilian areas, we already knew that, but rather the fact that the person had to "smuggle out" the pictures. I guess the Hezbollah PR people run a tight ship.
VirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4652 posts, RR: 37
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2541 times:
In order to prevent a lot of duplication, and in order to prevent the arguments spiralling out of control, we have decided to create four official threads to deal with the current conflict involving Israel and Lebanon in the Middle East. Please find these discussions here: