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Texas School District Bans Cleavage...the Horror!  
User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

http://cbs2chicago.com/national/topstories_story_216101303.html

Fromt the article...The new dress code reads, in part, “The display of cleavage is unacceptable. Low cut blouses, tops, sweaters, etc. with plunging necklines are not allowed."

If this rule goes through it is a horrible day in the history of teenage cleavage. High school boys around Arlington, TX will forever be scarred emotionally by not being allowed to see some boobies. Everybody knows everything is bigger in Texas so why try to hide them? It just doesn't make sense.  

[Edited 2006-08-06 00:14:31]


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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2361 times:

New dress code for "Christian" Red State school districts...



Extremists is stewpid !!


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

What's next, no exposed skin.

Quoting DeltaGator (Thread starter):
High school boys around Arlington, TX will forever be scarred emotionally by not being allowed to see some boobies. Everybody knows everything is bigger in Texas so why try to hide them? It just doesn't make sense.

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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8702 posts, RR: 43
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2348 times:

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User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2689 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

I see the bible thumpers have nothing better to do.

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

I am a supporter of the idea of school uniforms in school. School should not be a fashion show, and parents should not be forced to pay a fortune for the latest fashions because their kid can't bear not to dress as cool as the other guys/girls.

That said, I have nothing against the girls' uniforms emphisizing cleavage Big grin


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Thread starter):
Everybody knows everything is bigger in Texas



User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2266 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
I am a supporter of the idea of school uniforms in school. School should not be a fashion show, and parents should not be forced to pay a fortune for the latest fashions because their kid can't bear not to dress as cool as the other guys/girls.

Allright there calm down you euro socialist...

Nothing wrong with catholic chicks in uniform but not me.


User currently offlineAirwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

This is most unfortunate. I know Catholic (high) school uniforms to be more revealing and telling than this...

What about an exemption for ladies prominently wearing a Christian cross necklace? Then everyone can get a little religion...  Wink Big grin


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User currently offlineAislepathLight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

Quoting Airwave (Reply 8):
This is most unfortunate. I know Catholic (high) school uniforms to be more revealing and telling than this...

What about an exemption for ladies prominently wearing a Christian cross necklace? Then everyone can get a little religion...

Right you are, Airwave.

But CFalk, I am a highschooler, and I don't wear the latest fassions. I wear my old IN-N-OUT shirts. Matter of fact, my newest clothes was 1 pair of shorts and 2 microfiber T shirts for DC, cause it is 100 and humid, and Japan for the next two weeks, where it will be just as hot. I don't want to be a fasion statement at school, I want to be a kid there to learn. I wear the stuff I have. I don't really care what I wear, if ut can fit a 6 foot 170 pound guy, I don't really care what it is, aslong as I am dress, and dressed so I can learn.



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User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

Hey AislepathLight, whatever. I still have to wear my good old shirt and tie to school everyday and I kill to wear street clothes in school again.


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User currently offlineAislepathLight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2207 times:

Quoting Piercey (Reply 10):
Hey AislepathLight, whatever. I still have to wear my good old shirt and tie to school everyday and I kill to wear street clothes in school again.

Yeah, I go to Hawken. But we got a new head master, so stuff might get a little stricter. But you can't wear jeans, but you can wear a hat.



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User currently offlineScintx From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 270 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2179 times:

I grew up in Texas and if it wasn't for boobs I wouldn't have gone to school! I needed a reason to attend and boobs are good enough reason for me.


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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2176 times:
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OK..so put yourself in the position that the parents of these 14 and 15 year old girls are in. Your daughter is trying to compete with the other girls in attracting attention (prior to the development of judgement to accompany the development of boobs) by wearing the latest in stripper chic to school.

It ain't religion....it's parenting. Sort of refreshing to see parents and teachers removing some distractions from that vault of hormonal hyperactivity they call school.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
New dress code for "Christian" Red State school districts...

Stop it.......

Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
What's next, no exposed skin.

Don't be overly dramatic. Are you eager for the 15 year olds to be baring their cleavage? Do you feel that providing them with guidelines is wrong? Seriously?

Quoting Bohica (Reply 4):
I see the bible thumpers have nothing better to do.

Stop it....it's the parents who want their kids perhaps a little less forward in their sexuality. Parents are responsible for the emotional and judgemental development of their kids until the kid has the experience to accompany the physical growth.

I get the feeling that there are plenty of guys here who simply want to ogle the 15 year old boobs....and that's natural. Unless you're the father of a 15 year old girl.

Are there any parents of 15 year old girls here who want to weigh in? Are you daughters emotionally and intellectually as mature as their looks and physical appearance may be? Should you as parents be the parent and set limits for them? Do you like it when they dress in stripper chic?

I like stripper chic. I don't particularly like it when my 17 year old niece decides to wear it and her boyfriend ogles here and has less material between his hands and her body.



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User currently offlineJetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2779 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2149 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
I am a supporter of the idea of school uniforms in school. School should not be a fashion show, and parents should not be forced to pay a fortune for the latest fashions because their kid can't bear not to dress as cool as the other guys/girls.



Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
OK..so put yourself in the position that the parents of these 14 and 15 year old girls are in. Your daughter is trying to compete with the other girls in attracting attention (prior to the development of judgement to accompany the development of boobs) by wearing the latest in stripper chic to school.

It ain't religion....it's parenting. Sort of refreshing to see parents and teachers removing some distractions from that vault of hormonal hyperactivity they call school.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
New dress code for "Christian" Red State school districts...

Stop it.......

Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
What's next, no exposed skin.

Don't be overly dramatic. Are you eager for the 15 year olds to be baring their cleavage? Do you feel that providing them with guidelines is wrong? Seriously?

Quoting Bohica (Reply 4):
I see the bible thumpers have nothing better to do.

Stop it....it's the parents who want their kids perhaps a little less forward in their sexuality. Parents are responsible for the emotional and judgemental development of their kids until the kid has the experience to accompany the physical growth.

I get the feeling that there are plenty of guys here who simply want to ogle the 15 year old boobs....and that's natural. Unless you're the father of a 15 year old girl.

Are there any parents of 15 year old girls here who want to weigh in? Are you daughters emotionally and intellectually as mature as their looks and physical appearance may be? Should you as parents be the parent and set limits for them? Do you like it when they dress in stripper chic?

I like stripper chic. I don't particularly like it when my 17 year old niece decides to wear it and her boyfriend ogles here and has less material between his hands and her body.

I agree 100%  checkmark 

It's about time we have some sort of rules in the public schools. It's a Start!



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User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1847 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2139 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 5):
I am a supporter of the idea of school uniforms in school. School should not be a fashion show, and parents should not be forced to pay a fortune for the latest fashions because their kid can't bear not to dress as cool as the other guys/girls.

Oh, so in order to accomodate the less well-off parents, you want to force them to buy twice the clothing? These kids aren't going to wear their uniforms around outside of school! Flawed logic...

[Edited 2006-08-06 08:52:13]

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 15):
Oh, so in order to accomodate the less well-off parents, you want to force them to buy twice the clothing? These kids aren't going to wear their uniforms around outside of school! Flawed logic...

The idea of uniforms, or at least strict, non-casual dress codes, is that it signals that while he is in school, it is not play-time. It is not socializing-time. You are in school and you are there to do what they tell you to do. Once you leave school and go home, then you can dress in baggy rapper pants or thongs that go up to your armpits, we don't care.

As for buying 2 sets of clothes, I don't think that's a significant problem. you put in half the wear per day in each set of clothes, so they each last twice as long.


User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2242 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
It ain't religion....it's parenting.



Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
Stop it.......

Don't bother, there's no point in dealing with some of these people's ignorance whenever they tie anything negative in Texas or any other southern state to the fact that it's the "Christians" or a "red state", etc.

It's easy to generalize, makes the jokes funnier...  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineRoger136913 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2086 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
OK..so put yourself in the position that the parents of these 14 and 15 year old girls are in. Your daughter is trying to compete with the other girls in attracting attention (prior to the development of judgement to accompany the development of boobs) by wearing the latest in stripper chic to school.

It ain't religion....it's parenting. Sort of refreshing to see parents and teachers removing some distractions from that vault of hormonal hyperactivity they call school.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
New dress code for "Christian" Red State school districts...

Stop it.......

Quoting AirCop (Reply 2):
What's next, no exposed skin.

Don't be overly dramatic. Are you eager for the 15 year olds to be baring their cleavage? Do you feel that providing them with guidelines is wrong? Seriously?

Quoting Bohica (Reply 4):
I see the bible thumpers have nothing better to do.

Stop it....it's the parents who want their kids perhaps a little less forward in their sexuality. Parents are responsible for the emotional and judgemental development of their kids until the kid has the experience to accompany the physical growth.

I get the feeling that there are plenty of guys here who simply want to ogle the 15 year old boobs....and that's natural. Unless you're the father of a 15 year old girl.

Are there any parents of 15 year old girls here who want to weigh in? Are you daughters emotionally and intellectually as mature as their looks and physical appearance may be? Should you as parents be the parent and set limits for them? Do you like it when they dress in stripper chic?

I like stripper chic. I don't particularly like it when my 17 year old niece decides to wear it and her boyfriend ogles here and has less material between his hands and her body.

Well said DL021


User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4275 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2083 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Thread starter):
If this rule goes through it is a horrible day in the history of teenage cleavage. High school boys around Arlington, TX will forever be scarred emotionally by not being allowed to see some boobies. Everybody knows everything is bigger in Texas so why try to hide them? It just doesn't make sense.

It's Arlington. It doesn't count for anything  Silly Just a glorified suburb. To see women worth the while, go to Dallas or Fort Worth, especially down around TCU in Fort Worth. Holy mother of all things good!

Quoting Airwave (Reply 8):
This is most unfortunate. I know Catholic (high) school uniforms to be more revealing and telling than this...

In high school in Texas I dated a couple Catholic high school girls whose uniforms were much more revealing than this  Wink Our sister school had some damn smart and damn fine looking women. But they were mostly from North Dallas so they tended to be very bitchy as well.

Texan



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2073 times:
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Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 15):
Oh, so in order to accomodate the less well-off parents, you want to force them to buy twice the clothing? These kids aren't going to wear their uniforms around outside of school! Flawed logic...

Flawed logic is thinking that the parents are obligated to buy the kids slutty clothes in the first place......or even allowing your kids to dress slutty to school. Too many parents allow their kids to drive past their level of competence in cars and in life, because it's easier and they're busy. Parenting is partly about teaching kids the consequences of their actions, but also preventing kids from making too many mistakes by setting limits so as to minimize the damages.

Don't misunderstand me, I like looking at hooters all day long, but it becomes problematic when you realize that the girls in front of you, when they turn around, are braceface pimply 14 year olds trying desperately to look sexy by wearing tight fitting revealing clothing. The kids in school are distracted enough by sex, why throw it in their faces?

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Quoting Homer71 (Reply 17):
Don't bother, there's no point in dealing with some of these people's ignorance whenever they tie anything negative in Texas or any other southern state to the fact that it's the "Christians" or a "red state", etc.

Yeah, but it's difficult to let some things slide by. People who want to satisfy prurient interests at the expense of children sort of piss me off. There's a word for people who think it's ok to exploit young children sexually, and I think it's "fashion designer" (ok...two words).



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User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4275 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 20):
Flawed logic is thinking that the parents are obligated to buy the kids slutty clothes in the first place......or even allowing your kids to dress slutty to school. Too many parents allow their kids to drive past their level of competence in cars and in life, because it's easier and they're busy. Parenting is partly about teaching kids the consequences of their actions, but also preventing kids from making too many mistakes by setting limits so as to minimize the damages.

Don't misunderstand me, I like looking at hooters all day long, but it becomes problematic when you realize that the girls in front of you, when they turn around, are braceface pimply 14 year olds trying desperately to look sexy by wearing tight fitting revealing clothing. The kids in school are distracted enough by sex, why throw it in their faces?

Going to mostly agree here. Wore a uniform to school through high school, no problems. But the bigger question is should a government entity be telling people how they will be required to dress. I don't like the way children, especially young women are being marketed to ("You are only attractive if you weigh nothing, push your boobs up, and wear tight, revealing clothing with lots of makeup") any more than you do. It is disgusting and it preys on the insecurity of young girls. But is it truly a governmental body's responsibility to regulate what people can wear? If it is a private school it is expected. That's what you signed up for.

On the other hand, the uniforms in Seattle have also supposedly drastically cut down on crime rates and violence in high schools around town, and this has to be considered as well. I realize this is not a full uniform, just part of the more strict revised dress code, but if it helps stem some of the trouble at school then it might be worth it.

It's a tricky issue to tackle.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 20):
Yeah, but it's difficult to let some things slide by. People who want to satisfy prurient interests at the expense of children sort of piss me off. There's a word for people who think it's ok to exploit young children sexually, and I think it's "fashion designer" (ok...two words).

Or "marketer," "salesman," "Board of Directors," etc. The whole business stinks, but business is business...

Texan



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User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

Quoting AislepathLight (Reply 9):
I don't really care what I wear, if ut can fit a 6 foot 170 pound guy, I don't really care what it is, aslong as I am dress, and dressed so I can learn.

And that's OK because no one wants to see your boobs.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
Are there any parents of 15 year old girls here who want to weigh in?

How about a 12 year old that's pretty much fully developed?

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
Do you like it when they dress in stripper chic?

We don't allow her to buy those clothes and our school district here in a suburb of Houston does not allow them to wear that kind of clothing either. According to my older daughter who is in high school the fashion police are on patrol everyday and more than a few students have had letters sent home to their parents and a couple have even been given the choice of going home and changing, or wearing a plain t-shirt provided by the school for the day. That's both boys and girls. The boys were wearing shirts with inflamatory statements on them. The girls were either wearing the same or wearing a top that was too revealing.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
I like stripper chic.

I thought the term was skank clothing.

Quoting Texan (Reply 21):
But the bigger question is should a government entity be telling people how they will be required to dress.

The school board, more than any other government entity should have that right. It is supposed to be a collaboration of the parents and school officials. I don't see any rights being violated here since you are talking, for the most part, about minors. If you expect the school to take responsibility for them for 8 hours or more a day, you should be willing to let them dictate a few rules of behavior.


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2033 times:
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Quoting Texan (Reply 21):
But the bigger question is should a government entity be telling people how they will be required to dress

Only if it has the support of the parents who elect the school board. This is not the general population and the Supreme Court has ruled on more than one occasion that students, who are also unemancipated minors and subject to the rules of their parents, may be told how to behave in schools and in the homes of their parents.

But, just for the sake of discussion, the government does regulate our manner of dress merely by enacting laws that prevent people from walking nude, or allowing men with no shirts, but not women. Our society makes the laws, and our mores dictate what society is willing to tolerate both in behaviour and laws.

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 22):
Quoting DL021 (Reply 13):
Are there any parents of 15 year old girls here who want to weigh in?

How about a 12 year old that's pretty much fully developed?

My deepest empathy and condolences. My brother dealt with that same issue.

Quoting Gilligan (Reply 22):
I thought the term was skank clothing.

Only if she doesn't look good wearing it.

You see? It's easy to joke about it until you're talking to the father of a 12 year old girl.....

Gilligan...you need to go to the BHAM meet thread.



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User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 23):
or allowing men with no shirts, but not women.

The funny part about that is, and it's not generally known, but there is no state law in Texas to stop a woman from going topless. There may be local laws, and I'm sure there are, but at the state beaches, if she wants to doff it, she legally can.


25 RAPCON : ....boys, it says "no cleavege" etc, but it does not prohibit the girls from leaving the bra at home. C'mon Texas babes, let those puppies breath and
26 Post contains images Cadet57 : Sexist....
27 USAIRWAYS321 : Try to convince a 14 year old to wear the same outfit for two years instead of one.
28 DL021 : Let the ones that don't grow go buy new outfits. Parents spoil their kids far too much these days. Make 'em get a job and earn their "Iwannas". Hell,
29 LOT767-300ER : School uniforms are my worst nightmare. I wannas like what? a freaking pair of jeans and a shirt? I agree with you that alot of kids are spoiled in Am
30 Falcon84 : We don't worry about that, because our kids love shopping at Goodwill and Salvation Army. You can get near-brand new clothes for pennies. My daugther
31 DrDeke : Or, parents could take responsibility for raising their kids, and teach them some common sense and a reasonable set of values. I've been buying most
32 Post contains images Lazarus31 : these new rules will create nuthing but more tension!!!! i say 'ALL HOT CHICKS!!! GET YOU BAPS OUT FOR PEACE!!!!' (and also for the hormone crazed tee
33 AerospaceFan : It's nice to know that the school district is abreast of these issues. Usually, the boobs in government couldn't care less.
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