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Death Squads Now Targeting Iraqi Gays  
User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1972 posts, RR: 31
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

Just brilliant, more evidence of just how much we have "liberated" Iraq with this horrible war...good thing we went in and killed 100,000 people and sent ourselves billions of dollars into debt for this!

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1838222,00.html

PS: Oh and remember, when Saddam killed people, they were victims according to George Bush, and mandated the war. But when the US kills many of the SAME people in Iraq, they are "terrorists," so it's all good...even if it leads to civil war and religious extremists taking over the country. Whoopie!


It's people like you what cause unrest!
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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

:: cue the hoardes who've tried to say it's okay to be gay in the mideast "if you keep to yourself" because half the men are humping each other anyway ::


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User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

Quoting N229NW (Thread starter):
when Saddam killed people, they were victims



Quoting N229NW (Thread starter):
But when the US kills many of the SAME people

Here we have it folks!!! American soldiers are not only blood thirsty killers, who kill without provocation! Now we're digging up the dead and killing them twice!

N229NW, I know you didn't mean it sound like it, but you're saying Americans are killing the SAME people Saddam killed a few years back? If they're dead already, how can we kill them again?


Oh and PS:

You totally destroyed this worth while topic with your flame-bait, nonconstructive, total  redflag , anti-war/anti-american rant. Spare us from this argument, it's been made on A.Net HUNDREDS of times and it's very old. Stick to your subject.

-UH60


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

This is very sad.... i am speechless!

-Zaki


User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
Here we have it folks!!! American soldiers are not only blood thirsty killers, who kill without provocation! Now we're digging up the dead and killing them twice!

N229NW, I know you didn't mean it sound like it, but you're saying Americans are killing the SAME people Saddam killed a few years back? If they're dead already, how can we kill them again?

Oh please, if you can't figure out what I meant, then you are being deliberately dense. I mean the same KIND of people. In other words, while Saddam was a horrid butcher, most of his victims were Islamist groups, many of the same groups that the US is now fighting. It makes the whole retroactive justification for the war as "liberation" ridiculous.

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
Oh and PS:

You totally destroyed this worth while topic with your flame-bait, nonconstructive, total redflag , anti-war/anti-american rant. Spare us from this argument, it's been made on A.Net HUNDREDS of times and it's very old. Stick to your subject.

Maybe...to me the subjects are related. This article is one symptom of the failure of this war as a whole, on practical and moral grounds.

PS: I hope there is a way out of this mess and you and other soldiers can come home safe and soon!

[Edited 2006-08-06 17:34:17]


It's people like you what cause unrest!
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1747 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
anti-war/anti-american rant.

Just because one is anti-war, does not make one a traitor to America!


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
Now we're digging up the dead and killing them twice!

Well, not exactly...
...some of the same people... can in fact mean different individuals each time.

The point, however, can not be about what the US soldiers on the ground are doing with the orders they've received from above, but about what predictable effect those orders had to have.

The religious extremists have been coddled by the US viceroy and the US administration for years after going overboard on eradicating many of the structures of the secular society inherited from Saddam, so it's no wonder they're now trying to convert Iraq into a religion-based country styled after their respective role models (Iran or Saudi Arabia, for instance).

It doesn't just affect gays, but also women or religious minorities.

The question is what we in the west can actually do under the circumstances, with the US troops being the primary force in place but being in a tight spot anyway. It looks grim. Sad


User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

Quoting N229NW (Reply 4):
I mean the same KIND of people.

I knew what you were saying... I was just giving you a hard time.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 5):
Just because one is anti-war, does not make one a traitor to America!

Well... show me where I said that. ...You're going to be hard pressed. Good luck.

The truth is, I don't care whether if you're anti-war. It's your right to believe this war was unjust/based on lies/only done for the sake of oil/a huge conspiracy involving aliens and Barry Manilow/blah blah blah. I mean... you're dead wrong... and have no idea what it is REALLY like over here... but it's still your right to believe it. And being against the war doesn't mean you're against America.

HOWEVER, when you spout off the same old dried up arguments of:

Quoting N229NW (Thread starter):
But when the US kills many of the SAME people in Iraq

It's grows old. Americans are killers! Americans are brutalizing the Iraqi people! Ugh, it's enough to give me a headache. THAT is the anti-American  redflag  that I am speaking about. I'm so sick of listening to the America=bad arguments, and I am so sick of people using EVERY opportunity to use BAD news as GOOD news for their political agendas.

Gay Iraqis are being hunted down like animals = America's fault!  banghead 

As though, under Saddam, Iraq was some gay winter resort.  Yeah sure

-UH60


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 7):
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 5):
Just because one is anti-war, does not make one a traitor to America!

Well... show me where I said that. ...You're going to be hard pressed. Good luck

Oh, right here, or did I mis-understand you?

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 2):
with your flame-bait, nonconstructive, total , anti-war/anti-american rant.


User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 5):
Just because one is anti-war, does not make one a traitor to America!

AMEN!!!.... In FACT, being against THIS "war" is about being PRO-American and about what our values are SUPPOSED to be.



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1659 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 8):

Negative.

You obviously didn't read the rest of the post... and it wasn't even that long of a post! Here, I will try and break it down to even a lower common denominator for you:

I never equated anti-war as being anti-American. I equated the way some, just as N229NW, use bad news in Iraq as yet another opportunity to link it to how it's some how America's fault. Those types of "United States can do no right" arguments are total BS. And it happens frequently on A.net... people will take a story (such as one about how gay Iraqis are being hunted down) and find ANY way to use it to bash America.

The thing is Dtw, you can be against the war and argue your case intelligently - such as Klaus - or you can keep throwing the same old tantrum routine about how bad America is, and how wrong the war is. Either way, it has nothing to do with whether you're pro or con - it's how you present your case.

Did I make myself clear?

-UH60


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1642 times:

-UH60,

I read your post, thank you very much.

Sure it is the "same old tantrum routine", but not about "how bad America" is, but rather the mistake that we've made (the emphasis on "we've).

Jeremy


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

Quoting N229NW (Thread starter):
"liberated"

Liberated is the correct word . However like in most of the States over thier the political system is once again hijacked OR threatened by the "Army of god".

IMHO , this just proves once again that the Jihadist are so far to the extreme that their eventual complete discredit is well underway. Although this was not a goal stated by the administration for going to war, the establishment of a free Iraq was. A PR side effect that the "insurgency" has caused is the appearance of a alignment with Al-Quada/Islamic Jihad etc. Although the insurgency may not have exactly the same goal, the tactics being used are equated to the likes of OBL.

The insurgency in Iraq may be fighting against "occupation" but are clearly more aligned with the enemies of all free people.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

Now that we've established it's not un-American to be against the war (or I think that's what's been established), may we get back to the famous gay winter resort of Iraq?


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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):
may we get back to the famous gay winter resort of Iraq?

In all honesty Westy, what's to get back to? It doesn't matter whether you are for or against the war, the fact remains that the current situation has allowed extremists groups to flourish, and they are now targeting and killing various groups that don't meet their 'approval'. The fact that gays are caught up in it may make it more personal for you and I, but its just a symptom of the larger tragedy.



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1616 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 14):
The fact that gays are caught up in it may make it more personal for you and I, but its just a symptom of the larger tragedy.

It is, and totally unfortunate. I'd like to hear from the likes of ME AVN FAN, etc., who droned on for months in other threads about how easy life is for gays in the middle east mainly due there being, yes, you're reading this right, a higher percentage of gay male sexual activity in the mideast than other regions of the world.

I questioned it then, and I question it now. I'd like to see some explanations for the behavior of the Iraqi death squads targeting gays in this light.



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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4344 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 15):
I questioned it then, and I question it now. I'd like to see some explanations for the behavior of the Iraqi death squads targeting gays in this light.

I'm quite sure it'll be explained to us poor infidels that its their own fault because they weren't "behaving normal" (as defined by our various Muslim posters) or worse, they were being - "loud" (GASP!).



"The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity"
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1601 times:

Quoting Searpqx (Reply 16):
"behaving normal"

Does this rule out getting any sex tales? I want the sex tales!  silly 



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User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1596 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):
may we get back to the famous gay winter resort of Iraq?

And it's only a winter resort, because the summer months are brutal. Melt that drag make-up right off their faces. ... Well I dunno... do Iraqi drag queens wear make-up? Even the most stylish of burkas, doesn't show enough face to make it worth it!

But hey, we already established there wasn't any gays in Iraq during the rule of Saddam. Remember this photo?:


-UH60


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 18):
But hey, we already established there wasn't any gays in Iraq during the rule of Saddam. Remember this photo?:

A marble toilet and bidet is gay now? I never got the memo, dammit.



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User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1972 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1572 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 10):
I never equated anti-war as being anti-American. I equated the way some, just as N229NW, use bad news in Iraq as yet another opportunity to link it to how it's some how America's fault. Those types of "United States can do no right" arguments are total BS. And it happens frequently on A.net... people will take a story (such as one about how gay Iraqis are being hunted down) and find ANY way to use it to bash America.

Sure there are some things people try to blame on America that aren't America's fault. But sorry, this one is our fault. Any analyst or person who really understood the region could have told you before the war that invading Iraq would have had these results. But Bush and his neo-con cold-war-era-dinosaur cronies thought they knew better than all the historians and all the diplomats and politicians in the rest of the world, and they started this war. So I'm ever so sorry if it "gives you a headache"--God forbid--but sometimes a county has to acknowlegde that it has f**ked up.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 12):
Liberated is the correct word . However like in most of the States over thier the political system is once again hijacked OR threatened by the "Army of god".

Then they were never friggin liberated were they??? Again, people who understood Iraq saw this coming a mile away. So if you topple one government when it is obvious in advance that that will allow feuding and extremist religious groups to take power, and you have no game plan for how to prevent that, seems to me you haven't "liberated" anyone, you've only put a lot of blood on your hands to achieve a change from a brutal dictatorship to a brutal and unstable theocracy...



It's people like you what cause unrest!
User currently offlineUAXDXer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

Hardline Islamic insurgent groups in Iraq are targeting a new type of victim with the full protection of Iraqi law, The Observer can reveal. The country is seeing a sudden escalation of brutal attacks on what are being called the 'immorals' - homosexual men and children as young as 11 who have been forced into same-sex prostitution.
There is growing evidence that Shia militias have been killing men suspected of being gay and children who have been sold to criminal gangs to be sexually abused. The threat has led to a rapid increase in the numbers of Iraqi homosexuals now seeking asylum in the UK because it has become impossible for them to live safely in their own country.

Ali Hili runs the Iraqi LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender) group out of London. He used to have 40 volunteers in Iraq but says after recent raids by militia in Najaf, Karbala and Basra he has lost contact with half of them. They move to different safe houses to protect their identities, but their work is incredibly dangerous.

Eleven-year-old Ameer Hasoon al-Hasani was kidnapped by policemen from the front of his house last month. He was known in his district to have been forced into prostitution. His father Hassan told me he searched for his son for three days after his abduction, then found him, shot in the head. A copy of the death certificate confirms the cause of death.

Homosexuality is seen as so immoral that it qualifies as an 'honour killing' to murder someone who is gay - and the perpetrator can escape punishment. Section 111 of Iraq's penal code lays out protections for murder when people are acting against Islam.

'The government will do nothing to tackle this issue. It's really desperate when people get to the stage they're trading their children for money. They have no alternatives because there are no jobs,' Hili says.

Graphic photos obtained from Baghdad sources too frightened to identify themselves as having known a gay man, and seen by the Observer, show other gay Iraqis who have been executed. One shows two men, suspected of having a relationship, blindfolded with their hands tied behind their backs - guns at the ready behind their heads - awaiting execution. Another picture captured on a mobile phone shows a gay man being beaten to death. Yet another shows a corpse being dragged through the streets after his execution.

One photograph is of the mutilated, burnt body of 38-year-old Karar Oda from Sadr City. He was kidnapped by the Badr Brigade in mid-June. They work with the Ministry of Interior and are the informal armed wing of the Supreme Council of Islamic Revolution in Iraq, who make up the largest Shia bloc in the Iraq parliament. Oda's family were given an arrest warrant signed by the Ministry of Interior which said their son deserved to be arrested and killed for immorality as a homosexual. His body was found ten days later.

Dr Haider Jaber is currently seeking asylum in the UK after fleeing Iraq in 2004. He says the abuse started to escalate in his neighbourhood after the invasion. One night, walking home from work, he was surrounded by five men, who told him he had to become a heterosexual Muslim. He says they abused him for wearing jeans and a T-shirt with English writing, and told him he should adopt traditional robes. As a crowd gathered to watch, he was then beaten and kicked to the ground.

The threats continued. Armed militiamen broke into his family home and then his workplace looking for him. Jaber finally left the country in April. His partner, Ali. was not so lucky. Jaber learned of his Ali's murder a few days after leaving Iraq. 'They didn't send the body to the family to have a grave or a flower garden. They said he didn't deserve it because he was an animal,' he said.

Ibaa Alawi has also fled Iraq. A former employee at the British embassy in Baghdad, Alawi met Tony Blair on one of his surprise visits to Iraq. He said Blair was concerned about the safety of the Iraqis working there and praised their bravery. 'Tony Blair said the British government was thankful for our efforts and knew we were putting our lives at risk working for the British embassy in Baghdad.'

Alawi is upset the same government is not willing to help him out. He believes the Home Office will refuse him asylum because it would have to face up to the level of chaos in Iraq, and how much influence is being waged by radical Islamists - and face the fact that, for some, there is still no freedom in Iraq.



Please tell me how this is Bush's fault? Did you actually think their would be gay pride parades thru the streets of Bagdad once Sadam was out of power?



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

Quoting N229NW (Reply 20):
seems to me you haven't "liberated" anyone, you've only put a lot of blood on your hands to achieve a change from a brutal dictatorship to a brutal and unstable theocracy...

The war on terror is about ideas , The US has given a chance to the Iraqi people to form any government they choose. The struggle their now is about how that government will look and how it will serve the people of Iraq. The insurgency is showing that their only goal is to establish something that deprives the people of any freedom. In addition to that , their only "policy" is to kill people until they get it.

The million dollar question is will the freehold recognize the actions of the insurgency for what it is. Or will the jealousy and hatred of the US give excuse to any extreme measure used by them.

If in fact a "Brutal Theocracy" is what the insuregency wishes to establish , then why not support what the US is trying to do ?



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User currently offlineDoona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3772 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1549 times:

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 18):
Remember this photo?

I'm sorry, sweety, but no self-respecting gay man would ever have such a bathroom. Too loud and colourful. Unless he's an American, of course...  duck 



Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21520 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1542 times:

Quoting UAXDXer (Reply 21):
Please tell me how this is Bush's fault?

Despite warnings from abroad and from american experts, the Bush administration and their occupation administration in Iraq insisted on dismantling the secular defense mechanisms of iraqi society because they were perceived as associated with Saddam (which was only partially true) and elevated the importance of the religious leaders instead. It was a clear error in judgment in a very long string of related ones.

What we're watching today are the consequences of those decisions, the last remnants of secular society collapsing. Great job - the evangelicals are probably thrilled!  gnasher 


25 Post contains images UAXDXer : Ok... so you are telling me that the gays had much more rights on the Sadam regime!?!?!
26 N229NW : Yes, once again the old "they 'deserved' to be liberated by having their infrascructure and security destroyed and having countless civilian deaths,
27 UAXDXer : You would have to be a complete fool to say things are perfect over in Iraq right now. That being said, I also think you would be nuts to say that th
28 N229NW : I honestly hope you are right and I am wrong.
29 Klaus : Formal rights? Most probably not, same as everybody else. Were they actively hunted down by killer squads? Not that I'm aware of.
30 UAXDXer : But you don't know for sure .. nor do I, but I would be willing to bet that Sadam didn't have much room in his heart for the gay lifestyle and it wou
31 Klaus : Saddam was highly interested in politically dangerous activities. I'm not aware that he had any major interest in conventional morality, except for t
32 TERRA : These murder squads go around after all types in society. This is just media spin. Today it's homesexuals, tomorrow it's sunnis, yesterday it was shii
33 Gilligan : Maybe you should read a history book on the United States, say from 1781 to 1800. Even better and more current, what happened in East Germany say 194
34 Klaus : No. But the reports from Iraq I've seen so far (both while under Saddam and thereafter) seemed to be quite consistent in what the regime cared about
35 AGM100 : After 9/11 everything changed . As a matter of survival the US must act to change the status quo in the Muslim world. I do not see it as some kind of
36 Gilligan : Would this be the reporting that many acknowledged was biased due to the fact that if they went too far overboard Saddam's ministry of public affairs
37 Itsjustme : Media spin? The quoted article sounds pretty specific about what is taking place with regard to gays having to flee, literally for their lives. Not a
38 Jalto27R : What? I believe you are implying that Americans are the ones doing the killing of the Gays, when in fact it is the radicals who support Saddam and wa
39 Itsjustme : Sickening is an understatement. What's even more sickening is the U.S. has known about these death squads since at least last year but has apparently
40 N229NW : What are you talking about? Please, enlighten me mister holier-than-thou. I think I have a good grasp on US history, but I still have absolutely no i
41 Gilligan : History is replete with "payback" or an evening of the score so to speak in countries just liberated or in conflict. In France they drug the collabor
42 Searpqx : C'mon bud - you're really reaching here. How on earth do you equate Iraqi Gays with Nazi Sympathizers in France or the German Women? In both of your
43 Jaysit : That looks like a loo in the home of a tacky straight person. No gay man would even brush his teeth in something like that. As for Iraq being a gay p
44 TERRA : Yes, catch up!!!! The police is full of militia (mainly Shia) which has been recorded in dispatches for a long time now. You don't read the news much
45 Jaysit : Well, its part and parcel of what's really going on, which is the rampant rise of Islamic fundamentalism in Iraq along with the virtual destruction o
46 AGM100 : Dont know why ? It is possibly the largest event in our recent history and for sure in my life time. Their has never been an attack like it , a true
47 TERRA : Remove the word "gay" from the above paragraph and the statement is still valid. Normal folk aren't just killed on the streets but in their homes too
48 Gilligan : I'm not doing either. Perhaps a better representation would be Yugoslavia and the events that took place there. What I'm getting at is that once the
49 Searpqx : No denying this, but what everyone else is getting at is that the US has totally failed to anticipate and manage this, and in fact has taken actions
50 Post contains images Gilligan : The Iraqi police force evaporated on its own in advance of U.S. troops. That is a documented fact. The U.S. did not come in and kick the police out.
51 Scamp : Well, course they due! efter all, all em folks hafta due in the midl eest is stop all the nonsince and bein' homerseckshul and all them problums will
52 Searpqx : You mean besides the fact that our own military analysts warned that there would be a power vacuum after we deposed Saddam? And instead of moving to
53 Gilligan : Which means that neither of us really knows for sure. I'll let it go at that. According to whom? Our revolutionary war went on for 8 years with the w
54 Post contains images Searpqx : I can live with that TV time? No, TV isn't a yardstick I'd use to measure anything. But you're right, I do have different expectations. The big diffe
55 Rolfen : I dont know if I should feel concerned, but I said it's okay tobe gay in Beirut.
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