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Breaking News - Foreign Aid Workers Rescued!  
User currently offlineTsully From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 651 posts, RR: 4
Posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

CNN reports the 8 foreign aid workers being held captive by the Taliban since August were turned over to international Red Cross members and were rescued by 3 U.S. helicopters and have arrived safely in Pakistan within the last 30 minutes.

More to come.



I love America. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle, but I'd rather be a dog in New York City than a prince in Riyadh.
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User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

I hope this is true... Are these the same ones that were spreading Christainity and got arrested for that?



User currently offlineTsully From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1027 times:

Yeah, they were arrested for "proselytizing", which carried the death penalty.


I love America. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle, but I'd rather be a dog in New York City than a prince in Riyadh.
User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1012 times:

They were rescued from the Red Cross?



User currently offlineGekkogecko From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1005 times:

They were not rescued by the Red Cross and not by U.S. Helicopters. The Taliban left them back in prison and the Northern Alianz came and let them free.
Than U.S. Helicopter brought them to Islamabad in Pakistan.


User currently offlineBoeing in pdx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 995 times:

I'm glad that they are safe. Stupid thing they did, Go to the most violent country and go agianst the Taliban. Why do they care what religion the Afgahns are.

User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 992 times:

Glad you guys are safe.

Now pass the word to the missionaries...don't let this become a friggin' habit.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 988 times:

No more stupid than what Christ did. Had Jesus heeded such calls to not preach his word, Christianity itself would never have been born.

User currently offlineTsully From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 991 times:

What they were doing was not stupid. They were spreading the Gospel as Christ calls Christians to do. They had so much faith in God that they were able to bring themselves to go to such a godforsaken land and teach Christianity.

By the way, I can't think of any religion that doesn't call for the spreading of its doctrine.



I love America. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle, but I'd rather be a dog in New York City than a prince in Riyadh.
User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 977 times:

Ummm.....From what I can deduce it was the over zealous faith in God that made this land so 'Godforsaken'!



I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 975 times:

Tsully,

What they were doing was not stupid. They were spreading the Gospel as Christ calls Christians to do. They had so much faith in God that they were able to bring themselves to go to such a godforsaken land and teach Christianity.

Lets speak freely here. What they were actually doing was breaking the laws of a country they were in. Before entering the country they gave an undertaking not to break the laws, and they chose to do so. They broke their own word as well as the law.

If you do not like the laws in your own country, you strive to change them. If you do not like the laws in another country, you don't enter it and deliberately break them.

As a christian you might think that christianity rates higher than the laws of any land. As an athiest I most certainly do not agree.

If you are so adamant that christianity should be allowed in any country/place (and I don't disagree with you as I do believe in the right to choose), then you should strive to CHANGE the laws rather than break them.

Attitudes such as yours do nothing to help your cause in the non christian communities of the world. Those 2 Australians had little Australian support because many of us felt that they had taken a risk of their own choice and the consequences they suffered were brought on by themselves.




VH-ADG


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 966 times:

Those 2 Australians had little Australian support because many of us felt that they had taken a risk of their own choice and the consequences they suffered were brought on by themselves.

But a sentence of death, ADG? I mean, these people-the Taliban, that is, are a bit hypocritical, aren't they? They have no problem with their word spreading to our lands-by that, I mean they're far-out brand of Islam, but if you spread anything other but their word to their land, you die? Sounds like modern fascism to me.

Yeah, maybe those folks knew the risks, but a nation that would sentence someone to death over such a thing smacks at uncivilized behavior in it's worst form, in my view.


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 965 times:

But a sentence of death, ADG?

It certainly was concerned. But when people choose to put themselves at risk there is little we can do. We try and ban base jumpers too but they're still determined to kill themselves.

I mean, these people-the Taliban, that is, are a bit hypocritical, aren't they?

Certainly.

They have no problem with their word spreading to our lands-by that, I mean they're far-out brand of Islam, but if you spread anything other but their word to their land, you die? Sounds like modern fascism to me.

I don't disagree, but should we break a law just because we don't agree with it? Particularly in a foreign country.

Yeah, maybe those folks knew the risks, but a nation that would sentence someone to death over such a thing smacks at uncivilized behavior in it's worst form, in my view.

And I agree. But the fact that they're an uncivilised bunch of zealot loons doesn't mean we should go in their country and flaunt their laws. It means we shouldn't. Afghanis who want to be christian did have the choice of leaving their country (boat leaves to Australia twice a week from Indonesia!!!).

Also the Christians could have appealed to the UN to take action against Afghanistan as well. Don't know what it would have achieved but I would never condone entering another country.

What about if someone from a country that condoned murder came into your country and murdered someone? Should they go unpunished? After all, where they come from murder is OK.... Very far fetched but hopefully you get the point.

However, that being said, i'm glad they are safe.



VH-ADG


User currently offlineWarriorII From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 956 times:

"What about if someone from a country that condoned murder came into your country and murdered someone? Should they go unpunished?"

And if we were to punish this person, we would hear much defense from a select number of users here. Is it just me or do some people here seem to complain more about U.S. policy's than they do, let's say Afghani policy's, or even sometimes, like in this case, defend them?

-Tom


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 955 times:

I don't disagree, but should we break a law just because we don't agree with it? Particularly in a foreign country.

The best way to change an unjust law is to defy it.

What about if someone from a country that condoned murder came into your country and murdered someone? Should they go unpunished? After all, where they come from murder is OK.... Very far fetched but hopefully you get the point.

I see where you're going, but that example is far-fetched, simply because I don't know of a society that condones murder. Remember, the Nazi's killed people simply because of their religion, and the world was rightly outraged. Same thing should apply here, in my opinion.




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