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My 11 Year Old Cat Has Cancer In Both Kidneys  
User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3423 times:

My folks just called me as I am away at Uni and my cat, one I spent 11 years with, was apparently in an enormous amount of pain today and could not even get up or walk. They took him to the vet only to find out he's got cancer in both kidneys. The part that stinks is, if it was just one kidney, they could take it out and he'd be ok. But it's both.

I go home in a couple weeks to visit so my mom told me she'd try to nurse him along as long as she could until I come home so I can see him, but apparently it is bad.

I never realized how tough it is to lose a pet, as he's been my only one. But wow. It's pretty hard. If he's in too much pain, though, we might just put him to sleep.

I didn't even know animals could get cancer like that. Funny to think about it that way, we're so used to humans getting cancer.

Anyways, just thought I'd share. And a note to get your pets checked often for cancer (x/rays, or whatever means). It's probably not a bad idea.

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User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3423 times:

Quoting FSPilot747 (Thread starter):

We lost one of our cats to cancer a while back, its really really upsetting, suprisingly so.
My thoughts are with your cat  Smile
Thanks
PR


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

Very sorry to hear that. One gets very attached to one's cat.

Eleven is rather young for a kitty cat to get cancer.


User currently offlineThePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 2):
Eleven is rather young for a kitty cat to get cancer.

Our Cat was also 11 when she passed away  Sad
Again, sorry to hear of your cats illness

Thanks
PR


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3405 times:

Healthy cats usually live till they are about 18. We lost a cat at 4 due to a blood clot in his leg. It's always distressing when you get attached to them. Before that our previous cat lived till she was 16.

User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

My mistake, he's closer to 13 years old actually. I also thought that was kind of young for a cat to get cancer.

What can you do, you know?


User currently offlineDeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Quoting FSPilot747 (Thread starter):
I never realized how tough it is to lose a pet, as he's been my only one. But wow. It's pretty hard. If he's in too much pain, though, we might just put him to sleep.

It is very hard, I have had and lost several dogs over the years. Something gets us all, at least you know and can manage it until his quality of life is no longer there.

My dog right now has conjestive heart failure and he is on the same meds as humans, we will manage it until he cant have any more good days then we have to do what is right for him, not us.

They trust us to do the right thing by them because we are in control, and not letting them suffer and have zero quality of life is the right thing as hard as it may be for us. Once the shock wears off, it will become more clear what is right for him.



Dont take life too seriously because you will never get out of it alive - Bugs Bunny
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

Very sorry to hear about your cat. My cat is gettingon in years and I hope he lives to a ripe old age.

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 6):
My dog right now has conjestive heart failure and he is on the same meds as humans

Is that Dosha? I have his pic on my desktop. He is so adorable. I hope the best for him.


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

I'm sorry for what you're going through. I just lost my cat (bad year for pets for me) but was lucky enough to have her for 17 years.

I guess what helps the most is understanding that I gave that animal an empire over which to rule, and the opportunity to dis me at least twice per day when I was in town. I also gave her dogs to torment, and until we moved to the new neighborhood she had the world to explore and hunt.

I'll bet your cat has been similarly underworshipped in his opinion, but you probably have always made your best efforts and he recognized that while throwing the odd affectionate bone your way (or dead bird).



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User currently offlineFbgdavidson From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 3712 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

Sorry to hear that, my parents Brown Burmese died whilst I was away at Uni about three year back. My folks didn't tell me and when my mother came to pick me up she said 'there was something she needed to tell me'....I was quite upset but she was 21yrs old and lived a very active life. She was as active three weeks before she died as she was 15yrs before that, out running me in the garden, jumping up onto the occassional table etc! Then she deteriorated very quickly and my folks called the vet who put her to sleep about an hour after he arrived. Fortunately she didn't suffer much pain at all...

To be honest I was glad I wasn't at home like my parents and brother as it was very traumatic by all accounts. I did feel a bit guilty looking back as at the time she was being put to sleep I was getting drunk beyond recognition following the completion of a set of exams that semester  Sad

I look back fondly remembering her and all my memories of her are happy ones, and I am sure you'll be the same way.  Smile



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User currently offlineDeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 7):
Is that Dosha? I have his pic on my desktop. He is so adorable. I hope the best for him.

Yes it is, and he is responding to the meds very very well. He is 10 1/2 now and we have reduced his weight by 20 pounds to 115 or so to help him out. He is more of a character than you could possibly imagine and is still having fun every day.

Thanks for remembering him!

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User currently offlineYYZflyer From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 3643 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

Sorry to here about that.  Sad I know how easily you can get attached to cats over the years. Mines 11 and very healthy. I'm not looking forward for the day something happens to her. I hope your cat doesn't suffer.


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User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3311 times:

The Rainbow Bridge
There is a bridge connecting Heaven and Earth. It is called the Rainbow Bridge because of its many colors. Just this side of the Rainbow Bridge there is a land of meadows, hills, and valleys with lush green grass.

When a beloved pet dies, the pet goes to this place. There is always food and water and warm spring weather. The old and frail animals are young again. Those who are maimed are made whole again. They play all day with each other. There is only one thing missing. They are not with their special person who loved them on Earth. So, each day they run and play until the day comes when one suddenly stops playing and looks up. The nose twitches. The ears are up. The eyes are staring. And this one suddenly runs from the group!

You have been seen, and when you and your special friend meet, you take him or her in your arms and embrace. Your face is kissed again and again and again, and you look once more into the eyes of your trusting pet.

Then you cross the Rainbow Bridge together, never again to be separated.

That poem was posted by Shyflyer when I had to put my two cats to sleep. It hepled somehow.

Putting Ray and Freddie to sleep were two of the worst days last year. But your friend was there for you so try and be thre for him.

sorrowly,

Christine



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3303 times:

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 12):
The Rainbow Bridge

I love this poem. It's so wonderfully true.

I've never had a dog or a cat, but I've always loved animals.

FSPilot747, I'm sorry to hear about your cat. It must be awful to consider his circumstances, and I hope that he can be made as comfortable as possible, as medical intervention seems to have been ruled out.

Remember that as much as your cat gave you and your family love and affection, you and your family gave him just as much, and I know that your cat appreciated all your kindnesses and generosity. Pets are often very good at understanding human emotions.

Please accept my sympathies to you and yours, and give your cat a hug for all of us.

[Edited 2006-08-15 00:54:48]

User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3295 times:

I'm so sorry to hear about your cat. I have three, all over 10 years old and the oldest is a diabetic. She was on the verge of being put to sleep about 10 years ago when she was first diagnosed, because her liver and kidneys shut down. For whatever reason, though, the day after I was given the bad news I called the vet to give them the go-ahead to put her down, and they told me that she was actually responding to meds and had eaten (a lot!!) that morning. They said if I was willing to give her an insulin shot and a tablet that she just might make it. She's my little miracle...and the most playful (and occasionally mean) cat of all of them.
Talk to your vet; find out all your options. If you don't like what he/she says, get a second opinion. (you would if it was a human, right?) It may be expensive, but these guys are our fuzzy buddies and definitely worth it.



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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

I've had lots of cats and dogs, and it is always terrible to lose one.

My rule is this. If it's a dog, if he still wags his tail and seems happy a good amount of the time, don't put him to sleep. If your cat still wants to cuddle up and purr, same thing. They might be in pain, but if they still take some pleasure in life and are still mobile enought to go to the toilet where he should, don't put him down.

Last year, I had to put our Golden Retriever Baghera to sleep. We had known for a couple of years that she was developing tumors in her abdomen, and at one point even suffered a stroke (which caused a total paralysis of her jaw). But she was still happy to be with us. Finally she got to the point where she seemed always in pain, and could no longer walk. That's when she was put to sleep. I held her in my arms from the time the vet gave her the injections to the time she stopped breathing (about 25 minutes). I think that's important. Very difficult, but important that she knows that you are there.


User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

Thanks for the kind words, folks.

We are getting a second opinion. It seems strange, because X-Rays two months ago showed no cancer and now the kidneys are apparently double in size or something like that. He was fine yesterday and it was only today he was in pain and unable to really move around too much.

We're going to try some flaxseed and fish oil as my research has shown that it does hold some promise for cancer in animals (I'll try anything). Hopefully, we'll learn more from a second opinion.

Thanks again for the support.


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 15):
I think that's important. Very difficult, but important that she knows that you are there.

As hard as it is i too believe that is the most important. They gave so much to us that we have to be there for them no matter what (well within reason). Holding my cats while i was crying is my last memory of them and while it was sad at the same time i know i gave everything I could to them. THe last thing i gave them was my comfort of being in my arms.

GS
crap now i am cying again thinking about it.



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3268 times:

My deepest condolences......I am hoping for the best!!! A pet becomes like another family member. Its too bad they can't live longer. You know, once I got an email that went something like this:

After (kid's name) lost his pet dog and cat he asked his mother "Mommy why didn't our pets grow old? They are too young to die." His mother responded "Pets are born into this world with love for everyone. Their hearts are so filled with love that they don't need to live a long life to learn to love. Humans live longer because they have to learn to love one another."

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 10):

Beautiful dog, all the best!

Quoting Greasespot (Reply 12):
The Rainbow Bridge

Thats really nice. Pretty sad to think about, but very nice.

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 15):
I held her in my arms from the time the vet gave her the injections to the time she stopped breathing (about 25 minutes). I think that's important. Very difficult, but important that she knows that you are there.

 Sad I don't think I could do that, it would be too sad. Really amazing that you did that though.

cheers to all of our pets living happy healthy long lives!

Dave



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

Quoting DeltaDC9 (Reply 10):
Yes it is, and he is responding to the meds very very well. He is 10 1/2 now and we have reduced his weight by 20 pounds to 115 or so to help him out. He is more of a character than you could possibly imagine and is still having fun every day.

Thanks for remembering him!

He is a great dog! The pic of him and your baby is my avatar on nycaviaton and my desktop wallpaper! He bumped Art Brett's pic right off there! I hope he lives a long time. I love Husky's and Malamutes they are such great dogs. I wish I could pet him!  biggrin 

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 15):
My rule is this. If it's a dog, if he still wags his tail and seems happy a good amount of the time, don't put him to sleep. If your cat still wants to cuddle up and purr, same thing. They might be in pain, but if they still take some pleasure in life and are still mobile enought to go to the toilet where he should, don't put him down.

It's a tough call on quality of life but if they can get to their food and water and are not in pain then I would never put any animal down.


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3308 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3238 times:
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Quoting FSPilot747 (Thread starter):
I never realized how tough it is to lose a pet, as he's been my only one. But wow. It's pretty hard. If he's in too much pain, though, we might just put him to sleep.

I had to put my cat to sleep a few months ago, while I was away t university. He developed diabetes and completely atrophy of his rear leg muscles. He would drag his back legs everywhere on the rare occasions when he walked, and spend all day sitting. But he never meowed or seemed to complain, so maybe he wasn't in pain. I did not want to put him to sleep unless he seemed in pain and was complaining about it, but my mom refused to pay for insulin shots for a cat, when there were people in the world that needed it instead. So, I had no say, and my cat got put to sleep. Now, my mom regrets it, as the cat we have left (my sister's) is so lonely. He spends all day sulking, meowing at everybody as if he's asking where his brother is, even after 6 months. He is longing for affection, and nobody gives it to him when I'm not home from school. My mom always says how, "We put the wrong cat to sleep" because we all (except my sister) liked the other one better anyway. I don't know. It was hard, and when I remember him I get very nostalgic, but you'll move on. One thing I know for sure is that I'm not getting another cat for a Long, Long time. Even now, I call our cat we still have by my old cat's name, just because I'm so used to it. It was rough, but you'll get through. What will make it easier for you is that you recognize that it would be in your cat's best interest to put him to sleep. In my case, I had no desire to put mine down, and I was angry with my parents for a long, long time. Sorry for the long, long rant.

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 2):
Eleven is rather young for a kitty cat to get cancer.

$hit happens, man. My cat was 8 when he got diabetes.

P.S. Hope the second opinion is a positive one. If not, hang in there.

TIS
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User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3214 times:
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I have a lot of experience with cancer in cats. I had brother and sister cats, the male developed intestinal cancer at the age of 13. Fortunately in the New York City area there is one of the best animal hospitals, the Animal Medical Center or AMC and they have a special oncology section. Our male was put on chemotherapy treatments and lived for 3 more years. He finally passed away not from the cancer, but from a lung infection that because of the chemo treatments, which lowered his immune system the antibiotics to treat the infection did not work.

His sister was diagnosed by a tissue biopsy with lung cancer that had already spread. She was 18 years old and the oncologist said the only cure was surgery to remove the tumor and chemo. She felt at her age it would be a slow painful recovery and because the cancer had already spread, her chances for survival were slim, so she recommended we put her to sleep, which we did.

My advice is to find a veterinarian who is a board certified oncologist in your area. If your vet does not know of any, he is probably lying to you to keep you as a customer, oncologists usually work out of offices that have other specialists like internal medicine and eye doctors. You have to understand that most vets are just the equivalent of GP medical doctors, they are not specialists. Large cities usually have an advanced animal hospital that usually works with other research centers and have the latest treatments, Another place to look for if there is a college or university that has a veterinarian school, they also will have a animal hospital,

The only real way to determine if it is cancer is a tissue biopsy. Cats respond very well to chemo, they use almost the same drugs as is used in humans, but in lower doses. Because cats do not understand what is happening when they get chemo and become very sick like a human will get after a chemo treatment, the doctors do not go for a cure, but mainly for quality of life by extending the cats life for a few months to a few years. We were able to borrow our male cat for 3 more years and it was well worth the money to have him around.

I also lost another cat to kidney disease at the young age of 11, because of proper medical treatment and diet I was able to keep her alive for over 15 more months with barely functioning kidneys, so if the kidney problem is not cancer there is treatments available for kidney disease, but this time look for a kidney specialist, they would be a board certified internal medicine specialist specializing in kidneys.

One thing to remember is that cats do not show pain like a dog will, they mask it, cats purr for 2 reasons, when they are contented and stressed out. When a cat is in severe pain they will usually go to some quiet part of the house and just sit there purring away, they will stop eating and drinking and just wait for death, basically they try to end their lives. I went through this with all my sick cats. When they get treatment for their pain, then they return to their normal selves.

I would not leave any decisions to your local vet, no matter how good you think he or she is, but search out for the proper specialist. In human medicine we go to a specialist at the drop of a hat and you should do the same for your cat if you have the time and money.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3190 times:

I'm so sad to hear about your cat...... Sad  Sad  Sad


I could only imagine what you are going through...our cat had a cancer scare just until 3-4 days ago......fortunately all the reports came back negative..... Smile

We've been so fortunate to have our cat for the past 17 years.....we don't consider her as "part" of the family....she IS family......


I wish the best for your cat..... Smile

Cheers..



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User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3185 times:

I'm sorry to hear about this. Best wishes for your cat. I hope mine lives a long and full life...I can't imagine (and fear trying to) what you must be going through.

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User currently offlineDa man From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 887 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

I'm sad about your cat.

I lost a cat about 7 years ago now. I've gotten to the point that I really don't remember her on a daily basis, but when something memorable (like the day she died: January 13, or something like this) a sudden rush of emotions come to me.

One day she was fine, the next in intensive care and died within a few hours. Boy how different things can be in just 25 hours. The vet said it was something to do with her heart and kidneys (I think he mentioned failure). She was only about 5 years old.

My family now has another cat, and low and behold, he has feline lukemia. Although he's fine, we really don't know how much time we have left before he passes. Because of the past experience, I cherish every moment he spends with me.

We also had a dog for almost 19 years. My parents got her as a pup. She eventually became blind and just followed my mom's scent around the house. She was content during this and never complained. One day she just stayed in her bed, alive but not wanting to move. She started crying about halfway through the day. By that evening we got her to the vet, and my mom decided to put her to sleep. She died in my mom's arms before the drugs were even administered, content to the end in mom's arms. The vet said she had a stroke.

Losing an animal is one of the toughest things you can ever go through. They don't become a part of your family, they are family.

The Rainbow Bridge post made me cry.

I hope the second opinion is not as bad as the first.

[Edited 2006-08-15 06:53:21]


War Eagle!
25 Dc10s4ever : Loosing a pet is tough, especially if you have had them for a long time. They are one of the family. I was pretty depressed when my "Magnum" passed aw
26 NorthstarBoy : im sorry to hear about your cat, i hope she recovers, but if recovery is not possible, the most humane thing to do is have her put to sleep. i lost my
27 DeltaDC9 : Please let us know how things work out. I have always found that animals have a way of making better people out of those of us that make a connection
28 FSPilot747 : Thanks for the kind words. Tiger was the king of our neighborhood. All the neighbors know him, and will probably wonder where he is. My poor guy, I ju
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