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Mugabe To Black Farmers: Produce Or Return Land  
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17341 posts, RR: 46
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

This would be funny, and another opportunity to say I-told-you-so, if it wasn't such a disaster.

http://www.jeuneafrique.com/jeune_af...e.asp?art_cle=AFP44026roberserret0

Mugabe warned "those who cannot produce: we will take back the land" during the official ceremony of the commeration of the "Day of Heros". Mugabe said "the moment is come to make a distinction between the competent and motivated farmers and regular land owners who should probably look for other opportunities".

Long considered the granary of southern Africa, the country now depends on international food aid.


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User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

I believe a lot of white farmers moved to Nigeria where they were welcomed by the Government. The prosperous furture of Zimbabwe can only begin the day Mugabe and his henchmen are gone. Whatever land issues the white and black populations had, driving the entire nation into poverty and starvation was Mugabe's answer. He should be in the Hague awaiting trail for crimes against his own people.


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User currently offlineRAPCON From Puerto Rico, joined Jul 2006, 671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

"nous leur retirerons les terres"

"we will take back the land."

So what is Big Man Mugable proposing? I can't follow.

Is his saying that produce, or we will take back the land and give it back to the white owners?

Or produce or we will take back the land....and leave it fallow? This last one would not hurt or aid the country in any way since Rhodesia (I'm old school) has become an economic basket case.



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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1718 times:
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That country needs to ask it's former landowners to come back and work out a deal with them that has constitutional protections whereby they get their land back, and they start producing food again. The political idiocy of the last several years has taken this nation several steps backwards for no reason other than politics.


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21516 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1708 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 3):
That country needs to ask it's former landowners to come back and work out a deal with them that has constitutional protections whereby they get their land back, and they start producing food again.

That country needs a new leader above all else. Mugabe is arguably the worst dictator still in power today.

-Mir



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User currently offlineSearpqx From Netherlands, joined Jun 2000, 4343 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1680 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 3):
work out a deal with them that has constitutional protections whereby they get their land back

Trouble is, constitutional or other legal protections mean squat in a country that is basically run by a single man and his party. Even less so when his 'allies' on the continent won't hold him accountable for his actions, and China is willing to provide him just enough technology and money to keep his regime from crumbling.

Nothing will change until the people rise up, which is unlikely in the short term, or he dies, which while more likely, will probably just replace one despot with another.



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1647 times:

Someone should give this guy a lesson in Agriculture and Horticulture  Yeah sure

User currently offlineBA747YYZ From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 1):
I believe a lot of white farmers moved to Nigeria where they were welcomed by the Government

True and in Zambia and Kenya.

Quoting RAPCON (Reply 2):
Is his saying that produce, or we will take back the land and give it back to the white ow

That is the only thing that will save Zimbabwe

Quoting DL021 (Reply 3):
That country needs to ask it's former landowners to come back and work out a deal with them that has constitutional protections whereby they get their land back, and they start producing food again. The political idiocy of the last several years has taken this nation several steps backwards for no reason other than politics.

Actually under the Lancaster House Agreement which gave Zimbabwe its independance whites actually are given high rights, Mugabe has just ignored that. Zimbabwe in the 60's under right wing white rule had a per capita GDP among middle income countries, and the whites were one of the richest economic groups in the world.

The only thing that can help Zimbabwe is to get the whites back to get agriculture to prosper and regain international trust, which will benefit tourism, and help the economy more and more, Zimbabwe should be one of the top 3 richest nations in Africa, and even under Mugabe it is in the wealthier 25-30% in Africa.


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1629 times:

Having been to Zimbabwe recently (July actually) I can tell you that the place is in shambles. While driving to Victoria Falls, we came across miles and miles of barren land...what once used to be farmland where white farmers grew tons and tons of stuff...now theres nothing.

Mugabe has driven that country to the ground. People are discontented and unhappy. But it still amazes me that no one wants to do anything to that guy.

There is virtually no tourism now...the guide who took us to Victoria falls was saying that before all this..there used to be thousands of tourists around the place...when we went there, we saw maybe 20 - 30 people.

Also, there is a 5 star hotel called 'The Kingdom'...and we went in to have a look, the place was deserted. The casinos were empty and when we asked the lady at the desk, she said out of the 75 rooms, only 2 were occupied! Amazing...really sad state of affairs.



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