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Teen Aces Both Sat And Act, Teen Or Alien?  
User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

Or perhaps he is the Stepford student......

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/new...htm?source=rss&channel=kansas_news

In any case congratulations on a job well done. Forget Notre Dame and Princton. Havard, Yale, Stanford would all love to have someone with those scores and probably pay your way to boot.

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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

Just saw the article too. Doesn’t mean shit – and here is what shaded my view of those who score perfect -

A few years ago, I had a kid working for me right after he scored perfect on his SAT. Dumb as a bucket of rocks (common sense wise). I’m sure he had tons of book smarts, though.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21525 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2021 times:

Quoting Gilligan (Thread starter):
Forget Notre Dame and Princton. Havard, Yale, Stanford would all love to have someone with those scores and probably pay your way to boot.

Princeton just got rated better than Harvard, Yale and Stanford (in fact, it was rated the best school in the country). I don't buy into those things as gospel, but Princeton is a damn good school.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2021 times:



Too bad the most ass he will see is Playboy...And his little sister in the shower....



Go big or go home
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6301 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2015 times:

You know, good for him, but...i'm sure he has very little life. I know a few people like this, and they're smart as hell in class (as mentioned earlier, usually dumber than a ton of bricks on anything that actually matters in life like finances), but they have NO LIFE. College is great, but I learned more about myself and more about common sense and what I wanted out of my life in college than I did history or philosophy or that stuff. College is about more than just books and class, it's about having fun, it's about living life...he may score a 1600 on the SAT and a 36 on the ACT, but does he know much outside of books? Looking at him, unlikely  Wink

User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2015 times:

Quoting SW733 (Reply 4):
he may score a 1600


Don't quote me on this, but I thought the SAT scores changed? (the scale)



Go big or go home
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6301 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Yeah it might have, I'm not sure, I only took the ACT, and that was 5 years ago (well, and the GRE about 10 months ago)

User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Back in my high school days, some of the people who made the most idiotic comments in class and lacked the most basic common sense were the same ones who scored well on standardized tests. The SAT/ACT is nothing more than an exercise of repetition, you just need to practice a couple of months from those practice books to do well. Now if this kid never practiced, good for him, congratulations but he's missing out on life...

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21525 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
Don't quote me on this, but I thought the SAT scores changed? (the scale)

Yeah, they did.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

Nice to see people bashing this guy saying he has no life, etc....I can't tell you how many times I've seen this levelled against people from my high school.

There are plenty of people that I know who can easily score a 1600 on their SATs and have quite active social lives...

Methinks some posters here are a tad bit jealous of this kid (Replies 1,3, 4, and 8).


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 10, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 10):
Methinks some posters here are a tad bit jealous of this kid (Replies 1,3, 4, and 8).

Jealous of what? I went to a damn fine university and have a degree in psychology. Why in hell would I be jealous?

My point was that often times those who do exceptionally well are forced by their parents to study day in and day out, to the point where the person does not develop socially. Social skills/being personable in life will take you much farther in life than having book smarts.

Edit: for some reason the spell check added 'rn' in between some words

[Edited 2006-08-19 18:35:33]


Go big or go home
User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1961 times:

Quoting Gilligan (Thread starter):
Teen Or Alien?

Either way he is a virgin.  Wink He's also probably missing his latest Dungeons & Dragons or Magic: The Gathering party because of the publicity.

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 1):
A few years ago, I had a kid working for me right after he scored perfect on his SAT. Dumb as a bucket of rocks (common sense wise). I’m sure he had tons of book smarts, though.

I'm with you on this one. It is one thing to be book smart but if you can't think outside the box (oh crap, I just used a B School term...please shoot me!) or understand things can be non-academic then I have no use for you in my business. I'll hire someone from a podunk school with a proven track records over the last few years versus some kid straight out of the Ivy Leagues.

I have no idea about this kid though. He could be great and he obviously isn't dumb if he could ace both of the tests.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

I had a brain of a friend in high school. He was a math genius, but couldn't apply it to real life. Couldn't shoot pool at all. Christ on a Crotch Rocket! It's basic geometry!

Mark


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 10):
Nice to see people bashing this guy saying he has no life, etc....I can't tell you how many times I've seen this levelled against people from my high school.

 thumbsup 

I bet you and Mir have heard this so many times... It's just not true. At those heights, you do tend to be good at most things. I came from a fun high school, but went to the toughest college on the planet, and would have to say that the GMAT and GRE 800s were as fun and sociable as any one else, if not more so. Perversely, if you are that bright, you spend less time studying, and thus have more time for fun and games.


User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1927 times:

Guys come on. We a.nutter suck at times. The guy scored perfect, that is cool.. i mean he deserves nothing but congratulations. Whats with the he is a virgin with no life, look at playboy and his little sister for ass comments?

The guy scored perfect scores. That is the point.

Quoting Senorcarnival (Reply 8):
Back in my high school days, some of the people who made the most idiotic comments in class and lacked the most basic common sense were the same ones who scored well on standardized tests. The SAT/ACT is nothing more than an exercise of repetition, you just need to practice a couple of months from those practice books to do well. Now if this kid never practiced, good for him, congratulations but he's missing out on life...

Oh ok, did you score these easy to attain perfect scores?



There is something special about planes....
User currently offlineZone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1035 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1924 times:

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 12):
Either way he is a virgin.

This kid is pretty much the same. Any person that takes the ACT again after getting a 34 just has no life.



/// U N I T E D
User currently offlineFokker Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1914 times:

Quoted from the article- He also participates in debate, Scholars Bowl and Science Olympiad.
Jake said much of his motivation comes from his family -- particularly two older sisters, Millie and Katie, who were valedictorians at Bishop Carroll and at Benedictine College in Atchison. Jake's father, Bob, is superintendent of Catholic schools in Wichita; his mother, Pam, is a school nurse at Bishop Carroll.

That pretty much says it all. I hope that kid gets a job making tons of money. Because he will never ever know the warmth of a woman. His mother made sure of that.


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6301 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1908 times:

Hmm...so I just saw that instead of editing my first post, a.net just put it up as a second post...weirddddd.

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 16):
Any person that takes the ACT again after getting a 34 just has no life

 checkmark 


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4896 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Looks like the Green-Eyed Monster roams again...

The poor kid comes from a normal, decent family, and is competing intellectually instead of on the football field. With his intellect, he will be in the position of serving his country in a big way.

He may not appeal to your average teenie, but a lot of attractive women find a high IQ very sexy, and won't date anyone else. They guy is already a star, and unless he ends up at Cal Tech or Carnegie-Mellon, he will have a great social life - if that's what interests him.

As for hoping he'll make tons of making money, I'm afraid that is a foregone conclusion. At a bare minimum, he'll get a job on Wall Street as a quant starting at $200K, rapidly moving up to $1M plus. On the upside, he will end up highly sought in the Valley, and hopefully make a billion before he turns thirty. That would make him a very attractive catch, and he will not want for the warmth of a smart woman.

I would be more concerned about his finding a challenging arena to work in, and turning away from highly paid jobs to finding a passion where mankind benefits.

We should nurture these gifted children rather than indulge in anti-intellectual geek-bashing. Mother Nature is trying really hard to improve our gene pool, so let's not stand in her way lest we become extinct.

Where would we be without geeks like Bill Gates, Newton, Edison and Einstein? Green Acres, perhaps; but no airliners, for sure.


User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

Quoting Gilligan (Thread starter):
Forget Notre Dame and Princton. Havard, Yale, Stanford would all love to have someone with those scores and probably pay your way to boot.

As one who just went through the college admissions process last year at a variety of extremely competitive colleges, I can tell you that a perfect score, while impressive, doesn't mean a heck of a lot to these schools, and it definitely wouldn't give you any sort of scholarship. In fact, when I went to an info session at Yale, they were almost glad to boast that they rejected over half of the students with perfect SAT/ACT scores that applied to the school. Guaranteed admission for this kid? I think not. Pay his way? Most definitely not.

I can speak from personal experience here - I didn't get a perfect score on my SAT's, but I came close to it. However, I know that's not what got me into Dartmouth. It's all of the other things that I was involved in that make the difference - captain of the swim team, member of student council, etc. They want to see that you're well-rounded, not that you were simply able to score well on a standardized test. At less selective schools, your SAT's alone might weigh heavily in your favor for admission, but at these high-end, ridiculously selective schools (Dartmouth had something like a 17% admit rate for the Class of 2010), you've got to have a heck of a lot more.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 19):
Guaranteed admission for this kid? I think not. Pay his way? Most definitely not.

Harvard makes a big deal out of the number of perfect scores they reject. Like you said they want the well rounded student and not the bookworm.

Quoting Zone1 (Reply 15):
Any person that takes the ACT again after getting a 34 just has no life.

I was plenty happy with my 34 on the ACT and 1400 on the SAT.



"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21525 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

Quoting Comorin (Reply 18):
Where would we be without geeks like Bill Gates

In a much better place.

signed,

Klaus



-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineHalcyon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

Hmm, I have a friend (in college now) who aced all his APs, taught AP Physics, rean in cross country, did select choir, and was the most popular kid in high school. He now does ROTC at Gonzaga while double majoring in some weird crap (physics and math pof some sort), and is still well liked.

My point is that you don't have lack street smarts to be book smart, and being book smart does NOT mean that you have no social life.

That being said, this child does seem to be quite...hmmm, a nerd.  Big grin


Lucas  Smile

PS-

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 19):
definitely wouldn't give you any sort of scholarship.

Yeah, that's where getting the counselor to say you walk on water comes in.  Wink


User currently offlineGilligan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1799 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 12):
Christ on a Crotch Rocket!



Yes my child, how may I help you?  wink 

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 19):
I know that's not what got me into Dartmouth. It's all of the other things that I was involved in that make the difference - captain of the swim team, member of student council, etc.

.......

Joel Goodson: College women can smell ignorance... like dog shit.
 duck 

But with this kid it could easily be....

My name is Joel Goodson. I deal in human fulfillment. I grossed over eight thousand dollars in one night. Time of your life, huh kid?

and thirty years from now maybe he'll have more money than




User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (7 years 11 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1785 times:

Quoting Halcyon (Reply 22):
Yeah, that's where getting the counselor to say you walk on water comes in.

Not even in that case. All of the Ivy League schools offer need-based financial aid only; that is, you receive only the aid that you need to cover for the amount that your family can't pay for. It has nothing to do with your academic achievement; at these schools, everyone was a stellar student. They look at your parents' income, determine what they can afford, and then cover the difference between the school's tuition and what your parents can pay for.


25 Comorin : 1. Have you guys read the infamous "How Opal Mehta..." by Kaavya Vishwanathan? Great book on the whole Ivy admissions process. 2. Looking at Stuyvesan
26 DeltaGator : Too bad she got busted for plagiarizing...oh wait, we can't call it that anymore. Now they call it "Internalizing" someone else's work. They kicked h
27 Post contains images Mir : You really have to ask that question? Absolutely not - scoring 1600 (or 2400 now) on the SAT is not a monumental proposition if one puts their mind t
28 Post contains images Comorin : Stuy posts this on the web for parents and students as part of the college counseling process. I don't have a link, but I'm surprised you aren't awar
29 Gilligan : $11,100 plus tax and title at your local suzuki dealer and you are a proud owner.
30 Theredbaron : Never underestimate the power of the nerds (Bill Gates a perfect example). He will enter college and fail miserabily... (well if he is truly genius)
31 Halls120 : That isn't always the case. I know a guy who was a year behind me in college who maxed the SAT's. He is not only brilliant, but he has a wife, two ki
32 RJpieces : I stand by exactly what I said about certain members appearing to be jealous (several more members have posted similar thoughts since my last post). F
33 Mdsh00 : I agree. Someone who is studious doesn't necessarily not have a life. I've seen both them and people with "no life" who do horribly in school. Speaki
34 Halls120 : Agree. Lots of jealously lurking on this thread. In my Academy class, #'s 1 and 2 were well ahead of everyone else on the GPA scale. What was fascina
35 Mir : I was aware that they published them (in fact, I found out what my final average was from someone who had read them). I wasn't aware that they were a
36 Comorin : I'm family and was helping my niece with her college admissions process. You are right, that site is private. However, the data does not divulge stud
37 RJpieces : Your post was a bit misleading with "Where do you get these stats?" That seemed to imply that you had never heard of it...... They are not. In fact,
38 DesertJets : In my graduating class in high school we had one get a 1600 on the SAT and quite a few get pretty damn near close. While impressive, it isn't an impo
39 DeltaDC9 : You know, some peole are just good test takers. I never really have seen a real correlation between high test scores and the ability to make the right
40 Post contains images Mir : That's good enough. Not my intent. True, but when one is the only one to go to a certain college in a certain year, then it's pretty obvious who is w
41 RJpieces : Haha, true I suppose....
42 AirWillie6475 : Don't worry when he's 30 and he has a house made of 100 dollar bills, he's going to have both of your wifes at the same time.
43 AA61Hvy : Okay....Great point
44 MD-90 : The SAT has been reformulated to become more politically correct and hide the falling test scores. The maximum is now 2400, as there is a writing port
45 Gilligan : My oldest is a senior this year. We've visited several colleges so far and not one of them has included the essay portion of the new and improved SAT
46 Texdravid : The level of petty jealously on these boards is pathetic. Just be happy for the kid and leave it at that. These inane comments about "geek", "virgin",
47 Catholic2006 : The good thing is that he may be weird now, but he'll be very successful and famous in the future because of his hard work. It takes a lot to give up
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