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The Non-av. Clientel....  
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

Lately, no actually every month since I joined, a handful of threads pop up directed at a single or two people. The way I see it, it seems like a small closed clientel. Even you're in or you're out. I've also noticed that its always the same small clientel of people. Am I really the only one that finds this annoying? And no, its not because I am jealous, but people should try to see this from other people's perspectives.

I'd like to contribute to these threads, but in my opinion, it seems like you're not a part of the group if you don't know the people personally or if you haven't met them in real life, because the threads can be about something so personal that other users outside the small community that don't know the user the thread is directed at don't know what the thread is all about.

Disclaimer: I am not trying to attack any specific persons. This is a general problem the way I see it

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User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

Just post on a topic you like and leave the one's you don't, that's all I do.  Smile

User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 1):
Just post on a topic you like and leave the one's you don't, that's all I do.

Well...

Quoting AirPacific747 (Thread starter):
I'd like to contribute to these threads, but in my opinion, it seems like you're not a part of the group if you don't know the people personally or if you haven't met them in real life...


User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2002, 5047 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4047 times:

I know what you mean - but once you start contributing more, and becoming a 'known' name, you slowly become a part of it - at least I think I have!

Meets always help, as well, as people can put names to faces.



No trees were harmed by this message. However, several million electrons were terribly inconvenienced
User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3301 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4047 times:

What are you talking about? There are no private forum groups here...

If you feel you've got something worthwhile to post, then post it! No one's going to stop you...



"About the only way to look at it, just a pity you are not POTUS KFLLCFII, seems as if we would all be better off."
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4040 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Thread starter):
at a single or two people

I wonder who that could be?   

Quoting AirPacific747 (Thread starter):
Even you're in or you're out.

LMAO

Quoting AirPacific747 (Thread starter):
I'd like to contribute to these threads

Why? They are usually the same ol stuff and really not worth it. Check the rest of non-av there are many other threads posted by other people than the non-av hiearchy.

Quoting AirPacific747 (Thread starter):
because the threads can be about something so personal that other users outside the small community that don't know the user the thread is directed at don't know what the thread is all about.

You have to realize that for some of the non-av hiearchy this is there only social outlet, sad as it may seem. Just avoid those threads, there are plenty others.

[Edited 2006-08-19 23:30:48]

User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4040 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 3):
I know what you mean - but once you start contributing more, and becoming a 'known' name, you slowly become a part of it - at least I think I have!

Meets always help, as well, as people can put names to faces.

So true, but you can't go to every meet. I just wish that people would keep the personal jokes for MSN Messenger or Yahoo Messenger or whatever, and let everyone be able to contribute in the threads on a.net.

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):
What are you talking about? There are no private forum groups here...

Okay that's how you see it. I'm not going to point out any specific users. That wouldn't be right.

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 4):

If you feel you've got something worthwhile to post, then post it! No one's going to stop you...

Exactly what I just did with this thread.


User currently offline9VSPO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

AirPacific747,

You've been a member on here since April last year, have 4208 posts and your RR is 25. Now all of a sudden you are too shy to post??  Yeah sure  confused 


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

Quoting NIKV69 (Reply 5):
Why? They are usually the same ol stuff and really not worth it. check the rest of non-av there are many other threads posted by other people than the non-av hiearchy.

I'm not defending that anywhere either.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4030 times:

Quoting 9VSPO (Reply 7):
You've been a member on here since April last year, have 4208 posts and your RR is 25. Now all of a sudden you are too shy to post??

Huh?? What do you mean? Why do you think I posted this thread? Certainly not because I'm too shy to post.


User currently offlineClogman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3981 times:

I gotta say that I agree with AirPacific here.
Its actually pretty dificult to take part in many threads in here. Especially if you are a newbie or not one of the guys with a high RR.

When I was using my former username OYRJA it was actually much easier to participate because people knew who you were.

But on the other hand I dont really care about the threads thats only posted to diss eachother. So I stay far away from them and just post in the threads that I find interesting.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3981 times:

There is no secret handshake.

Just participate!  Smile


User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1161 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3966 times:

I sort see what you're saying AirPacific747, but just relax! It's just an online forum. Don't take it so seriously. If you feel like you aren't getting noticed, how about posting random, stupid threads that get you banned like Gkirk and TheCoz (or whatever he's become) do.

Like stated above, if you have something interesting to post, post it! If you feel "left out" of a particular thread, then don't post in it. No biggie.

It doesn't matter if you're not the most popular member on an internet forum. I can tell you because my RR is only 3. Think of how I feel.

Regards,
Btriple7  wave 



Just...fly.
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3956 times:

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 12):
I sort see what you're saying AirPacific747, but just relax! It's just an online forum. Don't take it so seriously. If you feel like you aren't getting noticed, how about posting random, stupid threads that get you banned like Gkirk and TheCoz (or whatever he's become) do.

Well I don't want to get banned And I don't want to be like Gkirk or TheCoz. No offence to them, but that's not my type. I'm not saying that people can't post these kinds of threads, but don't get too personal, so that only people that have met you in real life know what you're talking about.

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 12):

Like stated above, if you have something interesting to post, post it! If you feel "left out" of a particular thread, then don't post in it. No biggie.

While I see your point, I disagree. If everyone did that, the forum would be full of clientels a little like now. That's why I'm posting this thread. To try to change this, and make the forum more open to everyone. Even the newbies that just joined.

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 12):

It doesn't matter if you're not the most popular member on an internet forum. I can tell you because my RR is only 3. Think of how I feel.

Well this is not about RR. Frankly I dont give a damn about RR. I wish they would remove that childish rating system.

p.s. Thanks for bringing up the RR issue. I see the RR system as part of this problem, but I'll save that for site related Your opinion can be just as good or better than someone with an RR rating of 93

[Edited 2006-08-20 00:13:30]

User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1161 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Just for clarification: Are we talking about just NonAv or all the A.net forums???


Just...fly.
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3938 times:

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 14):
Just for clarification: Are we talking about just NonAv or all the A.net forums???

non-av.  Smile


User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3929 times:

It's the internet, and it's Saturday night which means NONE of us should be posting here, we should all be downtown having a few mid-summer cold ones!!

I'm on this forum to be informed (to get the heads up on events sometimes before the media does) and to make the occasional contribution or comment which people a) read with interest or b) don't give a sh*t. You might meet people at the get togethers, or you may never. Ultimately, you're typing into a computer - it isn't personal, so if someone offends you, switch off and pour yourself a beer. You don't need to be "respected".



Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
User currently offlineLewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3623 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3929 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Thread starter):

Who cares really. I rarely participate in this forum in general and never in the 'clientel' types that you're describing. I can never get into such types of discussion in a forum, too impersonal for me. If the thread is indirectly not open for general discussion, just ignore it.

Anyway, most mombers that participate in the threads you mention either know each other very well (from meetings, chat and stuff) or are too busy surfing to have a real social life. If you do not fall under the first category, would you like to be under the second?


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3912 times:

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 16):
It's the internet, and it's Saturday night which means NONE of us should be posting here, we should all be downtown having a few mid-summer cold ones!!

Not if we have been working for 9 hours today and are going working for 9 hours again tomorrow

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 16):
I'm on this forum to be informed (to get the heads up on events sometimes before the media does) and to make the occasional contribution or comment which people a) read with interest or b) don't give a sh*t. You might meet people at the get togethers, or you may never. Ultimately, you're typing into a computer - it isn't personal, so if someone offends you, switch off and pour yourself a beer. You don't need to be "respected".

I totally agree with you here, but this forum is like a hobby for me. I probably take it a little more seriously than you probably do then. Not saying that is the right thing to do, but I don't think I'm the only one.

Quoting Lewis (Reply 17):
Who cares really. I rarely participate in this forum in general and never in the 'clientel' types that you're describing. I can never get into such types of discussion in a forum, too impersonal for me. If the thread is indirectly not open for general discussion, just ignore it.

Well that is just like what Btriple7 suggested, but again, wouldn't that just worsen the situation with non-av. being seperated into small groups?

Quoting Lewis (Reply 17):

Anyway, most mombers that participate in the threads you mention either know each other very well (from meetings, chat and stuff) or are too busy surfing to have a real social life. If you do not fall under the first category, would you like to be under the second?

Great point! You're probably right, and no, I wouldn't want to be in the second category.

[Edited 2006-08-20 00:11:10]

User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3887 times:

In my eyes we're all one big family and we can contribute in any thread one feels the need to. An important point was raised, and that is contribute!!  Smile

It's only you feeling as if you can't post in certain threads!!

Regards,
Justin  Smile


User currently offlineLewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3623 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3876 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 18):
Well that is just like what Btriple7 suggested, but again, wouldn't that just worsen the situation with non-av. being seperated into small groups?

It is already quite separated. You open a thread by X and the whole discussion is always with Y and Z. Its always been like that. And its not only in forums. In school, university or workplace, groups form. Sometimes its because the people share the same opinions and just 'fit'. Here you also see specific people taking the piss with other specific members. I've been around these forums for like seven years, few members from back then are still here, some are gone and others come and go. Members change but it's always the same.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3865 times:

Quoting Lewis (Reply 20):

It is already quite separated. You open a thread by X and the whole discussion is always with Y and Z. Its always been like that. And its not only in forums. In school, university or workplace, groups form. Sometimes its because the people share the same opinions and just 'fit'. Here you also see specific people taking the piss with other specific members. I've been around these forums for like seven years, few members from back then are still here, some are gone and others come and go. Members change but it's always the same.

Well at schools, work, universities, etc. people who share the same interests usually hang out together in their spare time. Why can't people do that here in form of an Instant Messenger? There are no groups at my school. I guess I'm just prettly lucky then, eh? And at my work, there are no small groups of people. Everyone gets along with everyone.

And you know what they say: Two wrongs doesn't make a right, and I see this issue as a 'wrong'

[Edited 2006-08-20 00:26:22]

User currently offlineBtriple7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1161 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3851 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 18):
but again, wouldn't that just worsen the situation with non-av. being separated into small groups?

You can't stop NonAv from being in small groups. What do you expect to do--tell those people in groups to stop talking to each other and include the other members in the topic? That ridiculous! How would expect the mods to enforce this?!

I understand where you are coming from, AirPacific. I really do, but what you're asking for just cannot be accomplished. The admin can't just make some rule; it would take the will all A.netters to accomplish what you're asking, which isn't going to happen. People will always feel more comfortable talking to someone they've actually seen face-to-face, but that's only natural. I know it might seem unfair, but you and the rest of us are just going to have to put up with it. That's all I can say.

Regards,
Btriple7



Just...fly.
User currently offlineLewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3623 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3847 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 21):
There are no groups at my school. I guess I'm just prettly lucky then, eh?

Then you are VERY lucky.


User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2385 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3847 times:

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 22):
You can't stop NonAv from being in small groups. What do you expect to do--tell those people in groups to stop talking to each other and include the other members in the topic? That ridiculous! How would expect the mods to enforce this?!

No that's not it. Just don't post threads that are so cryptic that you need to know the users personally to understand the thread, and therefore are excluded by the thread.

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 22):
I really do, but what you're asking for just cannot be accomplished.

Maybe not, but I think you misunderstood my point.

Quoting Btriple7 (Reply 22):
People will always feel more comfortable talking to someone they've actually seen face-to-face, but that's only natural. I know it might seem unfair, but you and the rest of us are just going to have to put up with it. That's all I can say.

Of course, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is: save the internal jokes for IM.


25 IFEMaster : Sure, "clique' threads exist. They do any every forum everywhere. Learn to accept it, then deal with it. FWIW, I found it pretty easy to 'join in' whe
26 AirPacific747 : Yes. And there's more than 600 people in my school. btw I'm off to bed.. can't wait to see where this discussion has lead to when I wake up tomorrow.
27 AsstChiefMark : This place is like "Cheers." People come and go all day. You don't pay attention to those sitting in the booths next to the walls. The ones you DO not
28 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Ok last post tonight, I promise Yeah that is all true, but the thing is, that somehow the rest of non-av manage to post threads that everyone are able
29 Post contains images AeroWesty : So let me get this right. Over 4000 posts in under 18 months, an RR of 25, and you don't feel "welcome" some places around here? Where have you been
30 AsstChiefMark : Sounds like a social skills issue. Mark
31 AeroWesty : I've never once noticed that.
32 Post contains images Btriple7 : Now you're being a bit unfair. You said yourself that this forum was a hobby, a place where you and others could just "hang out." Surely that constit
33 Post contains links and images Srbmod : Quick, somebody call the http://waaahbulance.ytmnd.com/ You honestly set yourself up for all sorts of grief with this thread. So there's some "groups
34 Post contains images Piercey : amen and Honestly, just post and read. That's it!
35 Post contains images AirPacific747 : I don't think I'm being unfair at all. In fact, I think I'm very fair. People can hang out in here as much as they want to and start silly threads, b
36 Wukka : Now that I've gotten all the sand out of my crack after reading this thread, I have to agree with: Absolutely. For the most part, I sit in a booth bec
37 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Well that is a fictional number. I don't know the real percentage or amount of threads, but I found 8, yes 8 in less than 5 minutes using the search
38 M180up : Well I'm a newbie and I have only around 200 posts and have a RR of 11. But I'm not worried about that number. Exactly what I do, when I feel I have
39 AirPacific747 : It has nothing to do with no one noticing my post. Of course. Again besides my point, because sometimes you're not really able to participate at all.
40 M180up : I didn't tried to imply that, sorry if you felt my comment in that way. I know some threads seems to be focused on attracting just a few A.net member
41 Saxdiva : So let me get this straight... after searching them out, you found eight threads that contained leg-pulling or other inside jokes that you didn't get
42 Bill142 : I agree, somewhat. Some of these "in" jokes are probably due to members being activley social with one another away from A.net. Some of us aren't in a
43 Post contains images Halcyon : Well, you could be like me: come in expecting everyone to hate you, post controversial posts from a minority's viewpoint, make enemies real fast, and
44 Wukka : 8 threads in 14 days that you don't feel welcome in? ...and you spent 5 minutes looking for things that you didn't want to participate in? Exactly wh
45 Saxdiva : Your real trouble is your posts are so weird you fit right in here.
46 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Hahaha interesting concept Who said that I don't want to participate in them? Read the thread starter, and you'll find out that I actually do want to
47 Post contains images Halcyon : Hmm, yes, that is a truly troubling thought. I'll invite my shrink across the moat I suppose. Hope the gators don't eat him. I know, it proves that a
48 AeroWesty : Okay, let's run some numbers. About 150 threads show up on the forum list at any time. When I count up the number of threads I actually posted in on
49 Post contains images 9VSPO :
50 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Yeah you're right. The number is already way too high. Would be great with some more posts that you feel like posting in, right? Please bear in mind
51 Post contains images AeroWesty :
52 Wukka : So you want to participate in something that you don't feel welcome in? That seems diametrically opposed. Please do, and bring your references with y
53 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Well I dont know if I don't feel welcome, but I just find it hard to join some of the conversations as the threads can be very personal just like I w
54 AeroWesty : Okay, if you went to each of those 8 threads and posted what you wanted to say, what do you think would happen to you? Would you be ignored or feel l
55 Post contains images Halcyon : Wow, you're even doing better than the members of my family! Yeah, that always sucks. What's worse is when you're sleeping "on the job" because you t
56 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Maybe not, but I don't know what to say as I don't know the people well enough in some of the threads. Haha, just like me at work yesterday.. Made a
57 Post contains images AeroWesty : Give us an example of one of the threads, and we'll think up a post for you.
58 Post contains images AirPacific747 : I have sent Wukka a pm with links to about 6 active threads and 10 archived. Took me about 10-15 minutes to dig up.. not that hard really [Edited 200
59 Post contains images AeroWesty : Yes it is, if we don't know what the bloody hell you're talking about!
60 Post contains images AirPacific747 : lol Well I'm glad that about 10 other users that I have talked to do.
61 AeroWesty : LOL, are you getting cliquey on us now?
62 Post contains images AirPacific747 : What's that supposed to mean? Do you want me to start threads about it only aimed at small groups on a.net instead? The truth is I just happened to t
63 Post contains images M180up : You can start your own clique, and then fight against "rival cliques", nothing like gang related fights ! happens in life, happens in A.net
64 AeroWesty : Well then would you do me the courtesy of PM'ing just one link to me, so we don't have to play this game for another 35 replies?
65 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Oh yeah let's start a gang war sure
66 AeroWesty : Okay, I looked at about 3/4's of those links. One was a quality thread you could have easily posted in. The others were nonsense fluff. As I said befo
67 Btriple7 : Can you PM me too, because I'm rather interested to see what you're talking about. Regards, Btriple7
68 AirPacific747 : It bothers me that its always the same users in their small clique. You don't see other users starting such threads. Maybe I wouldn't post in them an
69 AeroWesty : Okay, I'm going to do my best to be constructive here. First, there were no rules broken by those posts. Secondly, the posts weren't "in jokes" as mu
70 AirPacific747 : I know that no rules are broken by those posts. If they were, I probably wouldn't have started this thread as their posts would have gotten deleted.
71 AeroWesty : Simple solution. Don't open the disgusting ones, and POST in the ones you don't feel you're welcome. Surprising things may happen!
72 AirPacific747 : Not so simple solution: If the threads are aimed at a small amount of people (which usually is very obvious), I don't feel like posting, even though
73 Post contains images Wukka : Go away! You're not welcome here. (a bit of fun needs to be thrown in here)
74 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Hey at least you get my point
75 Post contains links and images AeroWesty : ::whap!:: The point is, no one would ever say that to you in a real thread. If they did, suggest it for deletion. Secondly, discover: http://www.airw
76 AirPacific747 : Hahaha I would! I've tried joining a few times now, but it tells me that I didn't fill in some password or confirmation code (that I haven't even rec
77 AeroWesty : No idea. I don't run that site, so I can't help you with it.
78 NIKV69 : Who cares, the people that are posting their most intimate facts about themselves here are doing it because they have no friends to begin with. Their
79 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Haha! so true!
80 Post contains images ANCFlyer : OK, I read this thread three times. I'm not a genius, nor am I stupid - but what I gather is: a) AirPacific feels left out b) AirPacific thinks he's n
81 Post contains images JGPH1A : Must...bite...tongue... Agreed, though - there are no real cliques as such, just sets of people that tend to joke around with each other, and this do
82 Post contains images Klaus : You're collecting imaginary enemies... interesting; Most people appear to opt for imaginary friends...! You still have much to learn, grasshopper! Yo
83 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I don't think I want to be in your clique any more . . .
84 Post contains images M180up : You should be careful, is common street knowledge is hard to step out from certain cliques in the gangs   [Edited 2006-08-20 13:35:47]
85 Post contains images AirPacific747 : There's something you just don't get then. It may not be worded directly, and it is not like that I specifically feel left out, but people in general
86 AirPacific747 : I'm not demanding that at all. But if a thread is only for a few people, and about some personal issues about a person, I really dont see why the for
87 Post contains images AirPacific747 : That's it... i'm leaving Have to be at work in 15 minutes.. I'll reply sometime tonight probably. Talk to you all soon!
88 Post contains images Klaus : Yeah, you must! Well, JGP, I guess Alaska is off your travel itinerary for elementary safety reasons now...!
89 JGPH1A : Consider yourself cast into outer darkness where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth. I trust this will be a lesson to you :-P Between ANC and his
90 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I get it just fine. A while back there was a thread for Spanish Speakers. Guess it wasn't aimed at me cause I don't habla espanol. But I didn't get o
91 Post contains images Klaus : No. That's a completely different community (which I, for instance, never choose to join). And apart from your own apparent phobia, I don't see any r
92 Post contains images TedTAce :
93 AeroWesty : A simple follow-up question now that I'm awake again. Why is one of the 30-odd people on your RU list, also the subject of some of the threads you PM
94 Post contains images ANCFlyer :
95 NIKV69 : Actually there is a hierachy and certain cliques here. It's not the RU system, it's more so the fact that the non-av clan exists because most if not
96 ANCFlyer : Which means absolutely nothing NIK. Once again, no one is excluded from attending an A-Net meet. It's no different than participation in a thread. Sh
97 Btriple7 : Now that's a bit harsh; don't you think? Can you really say what A.netter does when he/she is away from the computer?
98 TedTAce : Yes, you are right, and of course we know you are the master of the brown nose the crew clique.
99 NIKV69 : Well it does Pep, if you read what the thread starter wrote it does seem sometimes that these type of threads seem to increase. Which I could care le
100 TedTAce : Yeah, pictures of you dressing in drag and doing the hula really wouldn't go well here.
101 AeroWesty : So now having a fun weekend is attention whoring? I missed the memo. I've been attending online bashes (of up to 150 at a time) since the early 90's,
102 JGPH1A : Cornish would be jealous for a start. He can't get away with wearing grass, not with his hips...
103 Klaus : I don' think you can draw such conclusions from yourself about others - but I can certainly see why that could be your situation...! Or posts like yo
104 Post contains images 9VSPO : Personally, I just think he needs to get laid.
105 AsstChiefMark : If you choose to go on a date with another a.netter, then fine. Feel free to snap a few photos and post them. But don't judge others who choose to sh
106 Saxdiva : I'm not into shooting. Thus, I feel left out. Please pander to me. Wow. And your 4500 or so posts were contributed while you were under house arrest,
107 Post contains links and images Carmenlu15 : I think I see the thread starter's point. For example, since I haven't had the chance to meet any a.netter personally, I can't relate to this thread a
108 Post contains images 9VSPO : Try joining an aviation related website where you can meet people with similar interests. Perhaps you could get to know them and arrange a trip somew
109 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Wow so many posts since I went to work. Seems like this is a subject that has been waiting to be discussed for a long time Hmm I don't know where to s
110 AeroWesty : Said person has started a new thread today. Will you post? Do you need an invitation?
111 Post contains images 9VSPO : Then either name names or STFU and go get laid.
112 AirPacific747 : I don't know. Do I need an invitation now? That post doesn't deserve an answer. Suggesting deletion of it[Edited 2006-08-20 22:48:13]
113 AeroWesty : I don't know. Perhaps IM them and ask if you may post in their thread. Hell, *I* always do. ::chuckle::
114 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Okay See... seems like you have a problem with the cliques as well
115 AeroWesty : No, I have NOTHING to contribute to that thread. I opened it, saw the porpoise, and don't plan on clicking on it again. Honestly, you have the same g
116 Post contains images TedTAce : I suggest that we kidnap him, take him to a meet, then an overnight camping trip for snipe hunting
117 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Sad how you need to use such a low language to prove your point by the way Shows what you're really like. And now let's see if ANC gets ANY of these
118 AirPacific747 : Where am I stating that? Where did I actually say that the forum is plastered with these threads?
119 AeroWesty : It was an analogy to the logic.
120 NIKV69 : Good idea. I am going to continue to watch Tiger, he looks pretty good at this point and Mike Weir can't take advantage of anything and the rest of t
121 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Nice try
122 AeroWesty : Huh? A complaint is a complaint. No matter how you want to overqualify it.
123 AirPacific747 : A complaint is a complaint yes. But what has that to do with anything you posted? lol. I didn't say anywhere that the forum is plastered with the kin
124 AeroWesty : Oh christ. There's no pleasing you at all, is there? I used an analogy. I could, if I gave a rat's ass any longer, go through all your complaints and
125 AirPacific747 : Well apparently you gave enough of a rat's ass to reply to my comment. Bad analogy btw.
126 Saxdiva : I did. It was whiny and annoying. Tell you what... maybe Johan will turn this into a completely moderated system and set up an approval queue just fo
127 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Well I'm glad I'm that important to you And there's your answer. Now get over it. With more people like you, I am actually beginning to like such an
128 AeroWesty : You may take this to the bank: I tried to be constructive earlier, and it's obvious it's your way or the highway, which if you continue to pursue, yo
129 Post contains images AirPacific747 : I rest my case
130 Post contains images EWS :
131 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Already did that 3 times in this thread.. now let's see if anything happens I'm afraid not.
132 Post contains links and images BaylorAirBear : Do I smell a double standard? LHMark & Nancy In Berlin (by Nancy Aug 20 2006 in Non Aviation) BAB
133 Redngold : AKA the A.net mafia. The good ol' boys network. It's always happened. You'll get used to it, just like those of us who are prominent regulars and sti
134 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Why is that double standard? Am I referring to anything personal about Nancy or Mark that can't be commented by people that don't know these two? Sho
135 Post contains images Srbmod :
137 Post contains images Wingscrubber : I for one enjoy being an unknown 'lurker', I'll be most offended the day my respect rating starts to escalate
138 Post contains images Srbmod :
140 Post contains images Klaus : If you want one, start one! And you have already in the past, if my memory doesn't fail me. Nothing wrong with it, so what's the big deal? Look, AirP
141 Post contains images Carmenlu15 : Some of you guys are hosting an a.net shoot-out, right? Actually, I started that thread... Guess now I will be accused of being part of an exclusive
142 Post contains images ANCFlyer : You have the same option - as does anyone else - that doesn't want to see said threads. Don't go there. And I can't imagine scrolling by them takes a
143 Post contains images Jap : Exactly how I feel. And trust me, if you DO make a personal thread (if it's too personal that is), you get the cargo bay. I disagree here- I don't th
144 Post contains images Wukka : And this, my online friends, is why I've not met you in person.
145 ME AVN FAN : - I do NOT quite see such "a group" in action. And I only know a few A.netters personally. But never felt like an attention-whore who needs to be "kn
146 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Klaus, you're all misunderstanding the point with this thread. This has nothing to do with not feeling appreciated. I just wish that people would sav
147 Post contains images ANCFlyer : I target the audience . . . in this case: You. Beginning with the thread starter. Nope, not kidding . . . . and I'm more stubborn than you can ever i
148 Post contains images AirPacific747 : So..? Is that your best excuse for talking like a child? Incorrect. Beginning with your posts. I wonder why Using your unlogical logic, yes, but we a
149 Post contains images Saxdiva :
151 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Noooooo . . . .
152 Post contains images AirPacific747 : I thought so too And see how I dont give a damn. Thanks for keeping me entertained here for a few days Apparently I hit a very big nerve or two with
153 Post contains images KevinL1011 : Well.....what about ME? I want to be part of the "watering hole" group. How come AirPacific gets to go? I guess I'm not part of clique.
154 AirPacific747 : Again, shows that you're posting without reading what I had to say throughly. I'll gladly repeat it again for those who just can't seem to get it: Th
155 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : What kind of school is this? Commie or Nazi? AirPacific since I live in the USA and my god damn Wal-Greens is open 24/7 ive bought you a packs of:
156 Post contains images 9VSPO : No. I'm afraid I don't see any 'hierachy' and I doubt anyone else does either. I think it's all in your head.
157 Post contains images Halcyon : Dear Anc., I'm sure you don't know who I am (or care), however, I'd like to be a help. First off, you're both on my list of respected users (you, bec
158 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Oh that's so generous of you And no, it isn't a Nazi school. Nazis are in groups, right? What are you afraid of? lol Well good for you. As I've said
159 LOT767-300ER : I dont feel cliques or heirarchy at all... Dude you have social problems in real life. Its so freaking obvious that you are either jealous or feel le
160 KevinL1011 : NO. First you say "part of a group". Then "small closed clientel" (which is not applicable) Now it's a "hierarchy" ? I don't think you understand you
161 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Good for you. Some of us do, some of us don't. Um okay since when? You guys started blowing this thread out of proportions. I was simply complaining
162 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Nazis didnt allow opposing groups or parties..which was my point. Again, whats wrong in real life mate, apparently there are issues on your side that
163 AirPacific747 : I'll see if I can make even you get it then: There do exist groups, yes. However, the groups are not my biggest problem but the individual people the
164 AirPacific747 : They were party themselves which is my point. Today, they are hanging out in small groups which is my second point. And tell me what is wrong with yo
165 LOT767-300ER : Im not acting like a smartass. There is no way a normal person feels left out on an internet forum because of inside jokes. That is not normal social
166 Post contains images AirPacific747 : And you guys STILL dont get it I DONT feel left out. I am just a member of this forum like everyone else. I just dont like the hierarchy that exist h
167 Post contains images Halcyon : Great, just great, the ONE time I decide to post a thoughtful comment in seriousness, everyone decides to reply after me within 34 seconds, and now it
168 LOT767-300ER : Jesus, you know what I meant. Its not normal for a school not to have a group...probably impossible. There is no way kids in your school dont have gr
169 LOT767-300ER : Ok. So you dont like a "hierarchy" which no one sees, ANCflyer, Superfly, MattD, GKirk, Sabena332, myself, KROC etc etc who have a mass amount of pos
170 AirPacific747 : 90% of those "kids" are older than you. There are groups, yes, but no hierarchy. Then stop posting without any background knowledge. I DONT feel left
171 KevinL1011 : NOW I get it! Are you going to ANCs watering hole or not?
172 AirPacific747 : Who said that no one sees it like I do? PLEASE PLEASE read my goddamn posts instead of just writing without reading first. I really dont want to expl
173 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Good. At least all the time I spent explaining this to you hasnt been totally wasted. I'll have to think about that one
174 LOT767-300ER : You just said in the beginning of this thread that there are no groups... Im simply inferring from what you are posting here. Why does it bother you?
175 AeroWesty : I wasn't going to post anything further in this thread, but this is so off the mark, I had to. One of the threads you IM'd to me was the one ANC did
176 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Or his hair Sorry had to throw that in.
177 AirPacific747 : Sorry, bad wording. Well I could ask you as well why this thread bothers you so much that you feel a need to keep posting. No we're not. Besides I ha
178 AirPacific747 : Great discussion. I won't be able to reply for the next many hours though. Possibly not before sometime tonight. So don't expect an answer from me for
179 AeroWesty : You've not publically released the list, so I won't comment on them. I've carefully read every post. I'm asking a question you've never answered. If
180 LOT767-300ER : Ok no beef. Because I stand for what I believe, and when I see a thread which is factually wrong about hierarchy and groups I like to jump in and DIS
181 Saxdiva : Does anyone remember that Twilight Zone episode (perhaps I'm dating myself) where that malevolent little boy had all these weird powers and could read
182 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Sure I do. Poor Hat! Sorry . . . call 'em like I see 'em. I have admitted, a multitude of times, on this site and elsewhere, that I'm an arrogant SOB
183 Post contains images Halcyon : Well, I was going to quote little bits, but it's waaaaaaaaaaaay past time to go to bed. I have to do laundry in the morning....my mind is wandering...
184 Post contains images JGPH1A : Kirkie is. Isn't this thread dead yet ?
185 Post contains images BaylorAirBear : Let's keep it open through tomorrow, please. I think it's gonna get really more gooder. BAB JGPH1A
186 JGPH1A : I think that qualifies as harassment ! I would be careful, in case AirPacific feels excluded from your boy-love - he'll need even more years of thera
187 Post contains images KevinL1011 : Billy Mummy. He also played "Will Robinson" in Lost in Space. Warning Will Robinson !    It's called "Experienced". Not necessarily stoned , but...
188 Post contains images Cornish : Wow. seems like I missed a lot of fun over the weekend. Yes there certainly are some threads that are shared jokes/experiences between some people, bu
189 Cornish : I didn't realise Amos was a guide dog BAB...
190 Post contains links and images KevinL1011 : Awwww Dude! Don't say clique ! Now you're gonna get lectured by AP for not "getting it". And I thought I had this thread totally derailed.
191 Post contains images Cornish : Exactly. It was high time a voice of reason and intelligence stepped into this thread. And as I'm one of the very few A.netters who fit that bill....
192 Post contains images JGPH1A : Hah ! Voice of dementia and hobnob overload more like.
193 Post contains images KevinL1011 : What about BAB? Yeah....I guess you're right. Did you ever get invited to ANCs' "watering hole"? I didn't.
194 Cornish : Nope - was far too rude about his hat. He's got it written into state law that you can be imprisoned for taking the piss out of his hat. I'm down for
195 Post contains images ANCFlyer :
196 Post contains images JGPH1A : This is ANC's watering hole
197 AirPacific747 : I didn't publically release the thread you mentioned. You dont seem to mind commenting on that one? There's something here I don't get... hmmm I wasn
198 Post contains images Btriple7 : 100 replies later and we're still flinging mud at each other. Hurrah for the A.net Democracy!!! Although these two threads below are contradicting eac
199 Post contains images Cornish : Ahem. I think I've already made it clear I'm the voice of reason and intelligence in this thread. And if you don't agree with me then i'm not going t
200 JGPH1A : You're not fooling anybody !
201 Post contains images Cornish : What ? Not even you ?
202 Post contains images Cornish : What ? Not even you ?
203 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : What fascinating modesty !
204 Post contains images Skidmarks : Far too many sherries there Cornish, your repeating yourself. I'm just grateful people on here actually take the time to communicate with me, never m
205 Post contains images Cornish : Nope - just doing a double take Pah ! Public school? Coming from Cornwall, I don't think so. Grotty old comprehensive for me. Didn't mix with the lik
206 Post contains images JGPH1A : Cornish, in the good old school days, reasoning with a member of the faculty...
207 Post contains images Myt332 : If that's the name of your gang then you can forget it! So you are getting at a few people really aren't you? Bacon boy, you need to go find some HP
208 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Great post, Cornish! Well its not just the threads as I've said before. But I am starting to realise that it can't be changed, as some people really
209 Post contains images Cornish : Fool ! Its called the Groovy Gang and you're not invited
210 AeroWesty : Because it was so singularly out of context to the rest of the threads, it was worthy of mention. It was also previously released by the author of th
211 767Lover : I clicked on the subject because I wasn't sure what it was about. I thought the original post was odd...and then I read the responses, which are truly
212 Post contains images Skidmarks : More like The Gravy Gang - gravy on all your pies and puddings! Andy
213 Post contains images AirPacific747 : No. That's simply because I haven't read it before now. I'd gladly explain it to you. It seems like some users on a.net have more powers than others.
214 Post contains images Cornish : You see, I said this thread needed a dose of my wisdom and intellect to sift through and make sense of it all mmmm, pies chips and gravy
215 Post contains links Myt332 : Oh I'm sorry but that a.net gang name was taken up two years ago and I was in it too! also these few selected people in the A.net Groovy gang: Avianc
216 AeroWesty : So what you're charging is "favoritism" on behalf of the mod staff, not "hierarchy". Thanks for the explanation. Those are two completely different t
217 ANCFlyer : And I told you to tell me on what grounds they should be deleted. Why perhaps have they not been? Well, perhaps they aren't whatever you happen to th
218 AirPacific747 : Okay thank you for correcting me. Well I did post complaints and I did write emails to the crew. Nothing happened. And actually I don't want to join
219 AirPacific747 : And I posted the reason which I can post once again if you didnt see it the two first times "Disrespecting other users" I can but I dont plan on sink
220 Post contains images AeroWesty :
221 AirPacific747 : Sorry, only some of the forums on airwhiners. The forums that are only about bitching are stupid I think. The rest of them are quite entertaining.[Ed
222 JGPH1A : This thread needs a dose of powerful emetic. Mind you, you intellect has the same effect. I disagree. Gravy on chips is a Fatwahable offense. Ketchup
223 AeroWesty : Dude, you've officially jumped the shark at this point. There's nothing further you need to say. Your gripe consists of nothing other than a series o
224 AirPacific747 : Huh?? What are you talking about? Would you care to tell me why you're saying this? Didn't I post around 15 threads in the PM I sent to you? How many
225 AeroWesty : Google "jump the shark" if you need further explanation.
226 AirPacific747 : Just googled it. Still doesn't make sense.
227 Myt332 : Poor Fonzy.
228 ANCFlyer : Nope. This heirarchy theory of yours has a few holes in it too . . . May I introduce you to Mr. Sean Mendis (B747-437B). ThHe long time holder of the
229 AeroWesty : You didn't even spend two minutes reading. Continue looking at the links. Especially where it gives definitions similar to: "Many have noted the shar
230 Post contains images AirPacific747 : AeroWesty already wrote this further up. ANC, if you're interested in an answer to your little "hole in my theory" check further up. Sure I believe y
231 JGPH1A : Right, enough. Moveon.org. This thread is deader than Cornish's sex life. Please can we put it out of our communal misery ?
232 AirPacific747 : No. I found a definition on wikipedia and read quickly through it. I still don't get the connection between that expression and the post I wrote. I h
233 AeroWesty : I agree. The OP is now going through and editing posts when called out. This thread is done.
234 Post contains images Cornish : Ahem. Jealousy, jealousy JGP - just because trade down the docks has dried up of late. Some of us are getting plenty - especially since one proposed
235 Myt332 : Don't use those two words together in a sentence, you'll give away his secret!
236 AirPacific747 : This thread has disappointingly gotten way off-track. I can blame myself and other members for this. I also want to say that I hope that whenever some
237 JGPH1A : There is a difference between "making a proposal" and "making a proposition" - you should learn to tell the difference, you tart !
238 Post contains images Skidmarks : Right! Your for the slammer you heathen tart and Cornish is banned from the docks for a week! Someone close this damn thread PDQ please. Andy
239 Post contains images Cornish : Oi. what have i done now ? Its my good name being dragged through the mud by others thank you very much....
240 Post contains images JGPH1A : Your "good" name in this case being "Valerie"
241 AC320 : Short answer to the initial problem: A.net has something for everyone, but not everything is for everyone. There should not be an expectation otherwis
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