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The Offical Alaska Primary Election Thread  
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1681 times:

Hey guys,

Today was the primary election for the people of the great state of Alaska. And let me tell you this election has been the most interesting one since John Lindauer. So far only one Murkowski campaign worker has been shot, apparently collateral damage during a gunfight between two moving vehicles

So far the most interesting races is the governers race where the incumbant Frank Murkowski is trying to gain a second term. At stake is a multi-billion dollar natural gas contract to build a pipeline from Alaska to Chicago.

Most polls have Frank loosing badly. A lot of people don't like him, the contract, the jet he bought, the canceling of a very important seniors payout, his exploding budget, and some of the sleeze that has occured, the most agregous resulting the resignation of the Attorney General of the state and the head of the republican party, who was conducting party buisness on the state nickel. And not to mention Nepotisim.

Frankly I thought Frank lost it when he ran the , "I might need a brain transplant" spots.

So far today there is speculation that the frontrunner Sarah Palin may be in trouble due to the extensive flooding in the Mat-Su valley may hurt her. She was the one that busted the head of the republican party and generally has been shunned by the party mainstream. A lot of people find that attractive. A lot of people hold her support of the LNG project over the Chicago pipeline project.

John Binkley, well I think he was the partys favorites sun before Frank at the last minute decided to run for re-election. I have a feeling he may not do that well out of his home districts up in Fairbanks.

Polls closed a half hour ago.....we should start seeing returns soon.


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1675 times:

Quoting L-188 (Thread starter):
So far only one Murkowski campaign worker has been shot, apparently collateral damage during a gunfight between two moving vehicles

Gang violence that is . . . . two morons moving west on Northern Lights Blvd shooting at each other.

Be fair L-188 - tell the whole tale - most everyone else thinks we're a bunch of Gun Totin' Whale Blubber eatin' Cowboys up here anyway . . . don't want to perpetuate the  redflag .

Quoting L-188 (Thread starter):
So far the most interesting races is the governers race where the incumbant Frank Murkowski is trying to gain a second term.

Frank will be the first incumbent seeking re-election to lose a Primary in 20 years.

I can't get live TV at the moment, I'll have to rely on this thread and KTUU.COM and other sources for the info.

But - if I had to make the call - right now - the Governors race will be a Knowles(D)/Palin(R)/Halcro(I) race.

I like some of Halcro's ideas but sadly, I don't see him as having a snowballs chance in Seward right now.

It will come down to Palin and Knowles. And, IMO, that's anyone's call. I'm voting for Knowles. He did a damn fine job his last two terms. It's not that I dislike Palin, I just dislike what she did in the valley . . . which is to say - she didn't do shit. You're right about one thing - she's a very attractive woman. But that won't win her an election.

I am impressed how she lopped off the head of the Republican party here in Alaska as well . . .exposed all the corruption in the Juneau GOP and in Anchorage as well.

Tony gets positive marks for being able to work both sides of the aisle and keep things moving in Juneau.

Sadly, I think Ethan Berkowitz will be the pick for Lt. Governor . . .and he's a shady, shafty, wheeling, dealing, sneaky SOB. I'd rather see Don Olson of Nome run with Knowles . . . that would cement the rural vote for the Democrats. At least Olson has character and isn't in someone's pockets.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1666 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
Be fair L-188 - tell the whole tale - most everyone else thinks we're a bunch of Gun Totin' Whale Blubber eatin' Cowboys up here anyway . . . don't want to perpetuate the

Agreed some if us eat moose.

10,000 wolves can't be wrong.

First results are in, with 213 of the 460 odd precints reporting, the republican split is Palin 50.4%, Binkley 31% and Frank the Bank 19%.

Your right, I think he will be the first governer since Steve Cooper not to win re-election.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
like some of Halcro's ideas but sadly, I don't see him as having a snowballs chance in Seward right now.

Agreed, he will be a protest vote (Palin could be considered one too) but at least it looks like he got the names on his petition to make it to the general.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 2):
First results are in, with 213 of the 460 odd precints reporting, the republican split is Palin 50.4%, Binkley 31% and Frank the Bank 19%.

Looking at the Divisions of Elections site right now.

Frank better have his Moving Van standing by . . . he's a goner.

I'm rather surprised to see Lesil McGuire beating Norm Rokeberg for Bennie Boy Steven's state senate seat . . .

Quoting L-188 (Reply 2):
Your right, I think he will be the first governer since Steve Cooper not to win re-election.

No question. Cowper got hammered twenty years ago, and now it's Frankies turn.

Now - what to do about that bimbo daughter of his in DC? I think the Murkowski day in the Alaska sun will be done. As soon as Frankie is gone the name recognition - how Lisa got elected in the first place - will disappear.

 irked  Burkowitz is easily taking the Light Guv vote on the Democrat side. I can't stand that pinhead.

 irked  irked  And Don Young is back for another term in the US House . . .


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
Burkowitz is easily taking the Light Guv vote on the Democrat side. I can't stand that pinhead.

Agreed, I don't see that as a good thing for the democrats, they would have been much better with a Knowles/Olsen ticket.

It looks like Jerry Ward is loosing to Parnell for the republican Lt ticket....I think that is good news for that ticket....Jerry Ward has proven to be pretty controversial in the past.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):
And Don Young is back for another term in the US House . . .

It is hard to loose a primary when you are running unopposed. But at least this time I think the democrats have somebody that has a bit of name recognition...not good but at least has name recognition.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 3):


I'm rather surprised to see Lesil McGuire beating Norm Rokeberg for Bennie Boy Steven's state senate seat . . .

I'm not. About two weeks ago Norm started to run some negative adds, and I think they came around to bite him in the arse. This was also the same problem that I think Binkley and Murkowski caused themeselves when they started to do the same thing to Palin at about the same time.

Got a bunch of negative press for everybody that was running them.



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User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

Well, goodbye to Frank and good riddance. This state is in desperate need of a change at the top level.

I think Sarah ran the best campaign out of the three Republican candidates and deserved this chance. Binkley's biggest fault is that he assumed he would win the primary. It wasn't until the last two or three weeks when he realized he was getting his ass kicked in the polls that he stepped things up, and by then all he had was a 9-year-old editorial from the Frontiersman.

I, too, like Palin a lot but I think I will probably vote for Knowles in November. If it wasn't for the gas line negotiations I would give Palin my vote, but she simply doesn't have the experience that Knowles has. That and the fact that Tony already did an excellent job in his first two terms.

Should be an interesting race. I think Tony will win, but not by much.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

If this Election in November had been a Binkley-Knowles decision, then it's easy - Knowles gets my vote.

I'm still leaning to Knowles as his did a very credible job over two terms in this state. He knows the job and does it well. Palin however, did qhat I consider a marginal job in the Valley.

I need to do more research now to make my final decision in November.

As for answering TBars questions in his duplicate thread (suggested for deletion of course) as to why Frank the Bank got the Boot . . .

Here's some starters for you TBar:

Jet Airplane
Secret Pipeline Deals
Community Matching Funds
Longevity Bonus
Overspent Budget*
Disrespects Military**
Nepotism

* After cutting the hell outta everything when oil was $20 a bbl he blew nearly ALL of the surplus Alaska wound up with after oil skyrocketed in the last two years - yet he failed - miserably to reinstate Community Matching FUnds to help cities and towns pay their bills and still has not reinstated teh Longevity Bonus
** Has yet to attend a departure or return ceremony for Alaska National Guard troops coming/going from/to Iraq.

GO to www.adn.com TBar and search Frank Murkowski and you can see just what kind of BS this Governor has done. He's been worthless to Alaska.

As for bitching about Alaskas democrats - well, Alaska Democrats are much more centrist and even right-leaning in some circles than your standard monotonous East Coast Bleeding Heart Liberal Kennedy/Kerry Democrat. They aren't blinded by their party. In a lot of ways, Alaska democrats remind me of Republicans of years past . . .


User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1621 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6):

Jet Airplane
Secret Pipeline Deals
Community Matching Funds
Longevity Bonus
Overspent Budget*
Disrespects Military**
Nepotism

You left out the ferry cuts and a dead-end road that most people in Juneau, Haines, and Skagway don't want. And, moving the Juneau ferry terminal to the end of said dead-end road, making it inaccessible to people without ground transportation.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1617 times:

Quoting Chugach (Reply 7):
You left out the ferry cuts and a dead-end road that most people in Juneau, Haines, and Skagway don't want.

Damnit, I knew I'd miss something. Murkowski is do fracked up on so many levels it's hard to keep track of it all . . .

Yes, he annihilated teh Alaska Ferry System, with help from that idiot Rboin Taylor . . . Seward - for the first time in 30 years - has no ferry service.  irked 

And the roads (along with the bridges) to no where . . .

The Road to Skagway is so damn stupid - build the road another 20 miles and STILL have to get on a Ferry?! What a moron.

All that is about to change however. Knowles will axe the road bullshit. Knowles will put the ferry system back on track. Knowles will likely eliminate at least one bridge to no where.

Palin will research the ferry problem - I have this in writing from her. She will not build a road to Skagway (where she lived as a child  biggrin  in 1965-1966 - I did not know her as at that point she was a baby - but my Father knows her parents - they were school teachers).

I'm sure you and I have both left out more of Murkowskis blunders . . . . you could fill an encyclopedia with them.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1613 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6):
Jet Airplane
Secret Pipeline Deals
Community Matching Funds
Longevity Bonus
Overspent Budget*
Disrespects Military**
Nepotism

Firing Tom Irwin
Randy Redreich
Greg Renkes
Attempting to convert PFD to POV payment plan

I will be voting for Sarah, not a big Don Wright (AIP) fan, and I can't forgive Knowles for surrending our sovergity to the federal goverment like he did when he didn't carry out the appeal of subsistance rules.



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User currently offlineFlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1604 times:

I am so glad that Murkowski got spanked in the primary. My first real impression of him came 4 years ago, when he was running for governor and I was still fairly new to the state and first getting into state politics. The Secretary of Energy was visiting the state to see ANWR and he made a stop in Fairbanks and the UA Museum was the site of a fancy shmancy dinner party for the Secretary. The guests at this dinner were about 50 rich Alaskan Republicans. I was working at the museum at the time and was selected to be one of the (un)lucky people who had to stay for the dinner and watch over the store. A red-nosed Frank Murkowski gave a speech before dinner (but after several drinks) and it is amazing what some people will say when in an audience of their peers. The two things that stick in my mind are the constant use of the word A-rabs (with a long A) and this (paraphrased) quote: "It's because of the hippies and their fuel efficient vehicles that the pipeline is not running at full capacity." 4 years later, that thought still cracks me up and is the big thing that I remember about Murkowski.



Now to get closer to the topic. You people in Anchorage sure got alot of commercials and campaigning from what I can see. Mostly all we got in Fairbanks was months of Binkley commercials. In the last couple weeks Murkowski ran a radio ad that listed all the good things that has happened in the state during the last 4 years and then he took credit for it all (He had jack ship to do with the UA Museum expansion, hearing him say that he was responsible for the expansion sent me over the top and caused me to start yelling and cussing at the radio at work) I also saw one tv ad for Sarah Palin the day before the election and all she said was that Wasilla elected her mayor twice.

I know absolutely nothing about Sarah Palin other than the fact she was mayor of Wasilla. Can you guys in the Los Anchorage area tell me more about her?



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1604 times:

Just a followup what happen to the cruise passenger tax or that on the November ballot? Read the cruise lines donated $2m to fight the tax.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29690 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 11):
Just a followup what happen to the cruise passenger tax or that on the November ballot? Read the cruise lines donated $2m to fight the tax.

It passed.

So now it is just a bit before we see the lawsuit filed.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1602 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 11):
Just a followup what happen to the cruise passenger tax or that on the November ballot? Read the cruise lines donated $2m to fight the tax

I think - first of all - it's a bullshit tax. The cruise lines do more than their fair share of fighting pollution and paying taxes in this state . . . into the hundreds of millions of dollars.

That said, the vote was too close to call. Ballots on that issue are being recounted along with the absentee ballots.

I voted NO on that tax. On thing I hate is more and more taxes.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1601 times:

Thanks for the update guys. Appears to be a nationwide trend, get the tourists to pay for everything. Special Auto/Hotel surcharge was put in place here in Maricopa County (Phoenix) to build a new playhouse for the football Cardinals. What a waste of $400 million.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 13):
On thing I hate is more and more taxes.

 frown  Especially, when the real citizens don't benefit from the new revenue.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1597 times:

Proprosition 2: Cruise Ship Tax. $46.00 per passenger.

Final Vote results:
YES 68133 52.36%
NO 61983 47.64%

Dumb bastard voters up here are taxing their two PRIMARY sources of income to death . . . .oil and tourism. Stupid people.


User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1595 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
Dumb bastard voters

I guess that makes me a dumb bastard then!

Quoting FlyingNanook (Reply 10):

That's classic about Murky at the UAF museum. I actually remember that fundraiser, too. I was a student at UAF at the time.

My lingering image of John Binkley is this: When the new Fairbanks train depot opened in May 2005, my family was coincidentally on the first train to arrive at the new depot (they were coming for my graduation). My 90-year-old grandmother was attempting to make her way to the stairs to get off the train. John Binkley (who at the time was still with the Railroad) cut in front of me and motioned to another passenger to get off the train so that he could be the first passenger at the new Fairbanks depot, as opposed to my grandmother, who had to take it slow because, well, she was 90 at the time.



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User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

Thanks for the update ANC. I should have figured there would be another thread going on this topic, what with all the vocal Alaskans we have on this site...  Silly


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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

Quoting Chugach (Reply 16):
My lingering image of John Binkley is this: When the new Fairbanks train depot opened in May 2005, my family was coincidentally on the first train to arrive at the new depot (they were coming for my graduation). My 90-year-old grandmother was attempting to make her way to the stairs to get off the train. John Binkley (who at the time was still with the Railroad) cut in front of me and motioned to another passenger to get off the train so that he could be the first passenger at the new Fairbanks depot, as opposed to my grandmother, who had to take it slow because, well, she was 90 at the time.

And you didn't drill him in place for that?

Quoting Tbar220 (Reply 17):
Thanks for the update ANC. I should have figured there would be another thread going on this topic, what with all the vocal Alaskans we have on this site...

Mark this on the Calendar and send it to Guiness Book of Records: I've not been so happy to see a Republican LOSE an election in my life . . . .


User currently offlineChugach From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 1041 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1589 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):

And you didn't drill him in place for that?

My revenge was not voting for him Big grin

Actually, I probably would have done something about it if there hadn't been about 20 people waiting to say hi to me.

I also found it very funny that the AKRR took exception to him using the railroad in his campaign ads. Evidently he was standing too close to the tracks and the Railroad got mad at him for projecting an un-safe image of the train.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):

Mark this on the Calendar and send it to Guiness Book of Records: I've not been so happy to see a Republican LOSE an election in my life . . . .

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