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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

After the great Hungarian GP now it is time for Turkish GP this weekend.

Let's hope a great challenge and excited grand prix.

Of course I vote for Schumi and Ferrari......

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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Well that's Renault's mass dampers banned once and for all now. Will be interesting to see how they go this weekend having had a while now to work on the car with the assumption that they might have been banned.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5270830.stm


Much will depend on the weather this weekend and tyre performance of course. I'm thinking a Schumacher win. However should Alonso beat Schuey, that will send out an emphatic message from Renault as the season end gets closer.



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User currently offlineTango29 From Ireland, joined May 2006, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Don`t rule out mclaren or raikkonen this weekend, after a fairly good grand
prix in hungary where they had good reliability and nearly a one two finish
and this weekend being mclaren/mercedes 200th grand prix together i think
the team and raikkonen will have a point to prove so i don`t think schumi
and alonso will have it all there own way this weekend.

Joe

 wink 



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User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Raikkonen will take pole on saturday. Button will be somewhere in the first 6 cars .

Alonso will probably loose another point or two to Schumi. I expect Barrichello to be seen this weekend as well!

As for race winner. I'd put money on Raikonnen!



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User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 3):
Raikkonen will take pole on saturday

If he will be sober  drunk  (link)

 Wink


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

The insulator on the spark plug for cylinder No. 7 on the Toyota V-8 may slightly glaze up and turn brown.

[Edited 2006-08-23 18:49:42]


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User currently offlineThereAndBack From Turkey, joined Aug 2005, 699 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2100 times:

Istanbul always has such great things going on and I always miss them by a day or 2!
 banghead 


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 1):
Well that's Renault's mass dampers banned once and for all now.

Renault have basically lost the championship now! Dam! JEnson may be up there near the front but as to will KImi and hopefully Pedro De La Rosa. THis last podium will be a huge boost to him. Will make some great entertainment this weekend



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User currently onlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26449 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Quoting Emrecan (Thread starter):
Of course I vote for Schumi

That is sad



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User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
That is sad

Hehehe true. Especially after all the things Schumi has done in the past  Wink



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User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 7):
THis last podium will be a huge boost to him. Will make some great entertainment this weekend

Also, because he won the race without too much of a struggle (+ 30 second lead). They will have saved valuable revs on those temperamental Honda Engines...

Alonso is far from out of the championship and schumi is still just within arms reach of a fantastic come back...



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User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 10):
Also, because he won the race without too much of a struggle (+ 30 second lead). They will have saved valuable revs on those temperamental Honda Engines...

Alonso is far from out of the championship and schumi is still just within arms reach of a fantastic come back...

Yes no doubt Button is on a high and if Barrichello can master the starts sometime within the next 5 years then he'll be boosted aswell by Buttons win. I must admit, whilst not really liking Ferrari much, I predict they will win the championship, however I will be spuring Renault on. I hope it doesn't come down to the last race. Who knows what stunt Schumacher would pull to win!



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User currently offlineKaddyuk From Wallis and Futuna, joined Nov 2001, 4126 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2070 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 11):
I hope it doesn't come down to the last race. Who knows what stunt Schumacher would pull to win!

I hope it DOES come down to the last race. Can you imagine the tension of an all out battle for first place! Its the stuff dreams are made of!

I was hoping to get to the Shanghai Grand Prix, but i'm now on a course for the whole of october and i cant get back to work in time after the race. However i've promised myself i'll be there next year!!



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User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 12):
I hope it DOES come down to the last race. Can you imagine the tension of an all out battle for first place! Its the stuff dreams are made of!

OK maybe it would be nice if it did come down to the last race, but as long as Schumi doesn't try anything smart assed like running into Alonso! But just imagine, only one retirement by either drive can have a huge effect on the outcome. If Schumi has a retirement then he's back to 20 points behind. IF Alonso retires, its all even. Luckily, Schumi's retirement in Hungary canceled out the effect of ALonso's retirement.

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 12):
I was hoping to get to the Shanghai Grand Prix, but i'm now on a course for the whole of october and i cant get back to work in time after the race. However i've promised myself i'll be there next year!!

That would be a great Grandprix to go to!



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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8447 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2050 times:

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 3):
Raikkonen will take pole on saturday. Button will be somewhere in the first 6 cars .

Alonso will probably loose another point or two to Schumi. I expect Barrichello to be seen this weekend as well!

As for race winner. I'd put money on Raikonnen!

Lets hope so.

Quoting Kaddyuk (Reply 12):
I was hoping to get to the Shanghai Grand Prix, but i'm now on a course for the whole of october and i cant get back to work in time after the race. However i've promised myself i'll be there next year!!

I was thinking about it as well or Japan. Both look like logistical nightmares to get to once in the country.


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Kimi Raikkonen set the pace in the first free practice session for the Turkish Grand Prix in Istanbul, after a last gasp flyer set him 0.4s apart from the rest of the field.

It used to be unusual to see a McLaren driver at the top of the times so early in a GP weekend, but Kimi set the standard early in Hungary as well before going on to take pole position so...

The Finn's recent pace is certainly indicative of the team's desire to secure a race victory before the season runs out.

World championship protagonist Michael Schumacher was second fastest for Ferrari, but just 0.008s behind him was Hungarian GP winner Jenson Button.

Fastest of the Friday testers was Alex Wurz, the Austrian Williams driver deprived of his usual sparring partner Anthony Davidson when the Englishman's Honda engine packed up with 12 minutes of the session remaining.

Before he stopped on track though, the newly-wedded Davidson - running a special livery in deference to Turkish oil sponsor Ofisi - did manage to set the fifth fastest time.

McLaren's Pedro de la Rosa was sixth fastest ahead of BMW;s Nick Heidfeld and his impressive new testing team-mate Sebastian Vettel.

Robert Doornbos, fresh from breaking speed limits on Dutch dams was ninth fastest for Red Bull, while his STR stable-mate Neel Jani completed the top ten.

Rubens Barrichello was 11th ahead of this week's Midland man Giorgio Mondini.

Scott Speed was 13th followed by the Midland race duo of Christijan Albers and Tiago Monteiro, while Franck Montagny's first taste of the Super Aguri SA06 was pleasant as he outpaced Ferrari star Felipe Massa.

Sakon Yamamoto and Vitantonio Liuzzi completed the runners.


Turkish GP free pratice session 1 times


1. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m28.315s

2. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m28.777s

3. BUTTON Honda 1m28.785s

4. WURZ Williams 1m28.959s

5. DAVIDSON Honda 1m29.193s

6. DE LA ROSA McLaren 1m29.376s

7. HEIDFELD BMW 1m29.780s

8. VETTEL BMW 1m29.964s

9. DOORNBOS Red Bull 1m30.391s

10. JANI Toro Rosso 1m30.576s

11. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m30.838s

12. MONDINI Midland 1m30.846s

13. SPEED Toro Rosso 1m31.416s

14. ALBERS Midland 1m31.475s

15. MONTEIRO Midland 1m31.566s

16. MONTAGNY Super Aguri 1m31.814s

17. MASSA Ferrari 1m31.904s

18. YAMAMOTO Super Aguri 1m32.212s

19. LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m32.407s

20. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota no time

21. TRULLI Toyota no time

22. FISICHELLA Renault no time

23. ALONSO Renault no time

24. SATO Super Aguri no time

25. KUBICA BMW no time

26. KLIEN Red Bull no time

27. COULTHARD Red Bull no time

28. WEBBER Williams no time

29. ROSBERG Williams no time



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User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

Second test session (all information taken from http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Latest.aspx)

BMW can boast of discovering another super-rookie after Sebastian Vettel made a dream debut at the Turkish Grand Prix - blitzing the field in free practice at Istanbul on Friday.

The 19-year-old German, called up to replace Robert Kubica in the BMW test team after the Pole was promoted into a race seat, stunned the paddock by setting the fastest time of the day – a 1m28.091s.

Vettel, showing no ill-affects from his recent finger injury, didn’t put a wheel wrong and looked every bit capable of filling Kubica’s role in the team after BMW’s Mario Theissen suggested yesterday that he would wait and see before giving him the role full-time.

The closest man to Vettel was Ferrari’s Felipe Massa, who made the most of the second session having completed only a few laps in the first.

His pace, just over a 0.1s shy of the BMW test car suggests that Bridgestone is in the hunt once again in Turkey.

Although Michelin may contest that claim after Jenson Button went third fastest for Honda, backed up by test driver Anthony Davidson.

The Schumacher brothers Ralf and Michael were fifth and sixth for Toyota and Ferrari respectively.

Robert Doornbos went seventh quickest in the Red Bull test car, faster than both McLarens of Kimi Raikkonen and Pedro de la Rosa, while Rubens Barrichello was next up, making it three Hondas in the top ten.

Where was Fernando Alonso we here you cry? Well the world champion was a lowly 12th fastest, behind Midland’s Giorgio Mondini, having only run an install lap in the morning.

Not only that, but for the second race in succession the Renault star was embroiled in an on-track dispute with Doornbos.

This time the Dutchman appeared to give the world champion too little room as the Renault and Red Bull clashed wheels through a turn.

Some remonstrating followed on the straight, although it remains unclear whether the stewards will take any action this time around.

Neel Jani and Scott Speed were 13th and 14th in Toro Rossos, ahead of lowly Jarno Trulli and a magnificent effort from Franck Montagny to go 16th in a Super Aguri – surely its highest place this year on merit.

Several top names found themselves scratching around near the bottom of the times as the track proved tricky and lacking in grip all day.

These included Giancarlo Fisichella (17th), Mark Webber (21st), Nico Rosberg (23rd), Nick Heidfeld (27th) and David Coulthard (28th).



Turkish GP free practice session 2 times

1. VETTEL BMW 1m28.091s

2. MASSA Ferrari 1m28.164s

3. BUTTON Honda 1m28.506s

4. DAVIDSON Honda 1m28.598s

5. R.SCHUMACHER Toyota 1m28.614

6. M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari 1m28.819s

7. DOORNBOS Red Bull 1m28.848s

8. RAIKKONEN McLaren 1m29.042s

9. DE LA ROSA McLaren 1m29.112s

10. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m29.214s

11. MONDINI Midland 1m29.719s

12. ALONSO Renault 1m29.741s

13. JANI Toro Rosso 1m29.858s

14. SPEED Toro Rosso 1m29.890s

15. TRULLI Toyota 1m30.006s

16. MONTAGNY Super Aguri 1m30.491s

17. KUBICA BMW 1m30.502s

18. FISICHELLA Renault 1m30.504s

19. WURZ Williams 1m30.509s

20. LIUZZI Toro Rosso 1m30.551s

21. WEBBER Williams 1m30.775s

22. KLIEN Red Bull 1m31.889s

23. ROSBERG Williams 1m31.015s

24. SATO Super Aguri 1m31.091s

25. YAMAMOTO Super Aguri 1m31.316s

26. MONTEIRO Midland 1m31.519s

27. HEIDFELD BMW 1m31.526s

28. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m31.540s

29. ALBERS Midland 1m32.102s



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2018 times:

On a more significant note, Expect to hear Kimi Raikkonen finally confirmed as a Ferrar driver at the Italian Grand Prix.


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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

Cornish:

Great news.....

Kimi, Schumi and Ferrari.. Great team !


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8447 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

Quoting Cornish (Reply 17):
On a more significant note, Expect to hear Kimi Raikkonen finally confirmed as a Ferrar driver at the Italian Grand Prix.

Don't you mean shock announcement  Yeah sure


User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1989 times:

Quoting Legoguy (Reply 16):
VETTEL BMW 1m28.091s

That was impressive! Man, driving F1 at 19  drool 

Button was fast as well. Maybe some more messages from the Queen? Something for David Hobbs to talk about  laughing 

I'll have to say Speed was pretty fast all things considered. Come on, give him some credit!!!  silly  Wink

I'm suprised Alonso wasn't faster. He has something to prove with the mass dampers banned.

I'm hoping for a safe, enjoyable race!  bigthumbsup 

Cheers,
Dave



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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

The 3rd car of the lesser teams always seem to be among the faster, my guess is that the teams test new things that they dont dare to test on
the participants cars in case they break?


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8447 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1978 times:

Quoting Alessandro (Reply 21):
The 3rd car of the lesser teams always seem to be among the faster, my guess is that the teams test new things that they dont dare to test on
the participants cars in case they break?

Bingo. The engine rules do no apply to the third car. Therefore they can carryout tyre comparisons, set up work etc, while saving valuable mileage on the race cars.


User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Great qualification results for both Ferrari and Renault. Tomorrow the start of the race will be great I am sure. I still vote for Schumi.

Qualification:
1- Massa
2- Schumacher
3- (B)alonso
4- Fisichella

By the way I want to add, Kimi was very bad. Another disappointment from McLaren-Mercedes


User currently offlineLegoguy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 3313 posts, RR: 39
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1970 times:

Quoting Emrecan (Reply 23):
Qualification:
1- Massa
2- Schumacher
3- (B)alonso
4- Fisichella

Yes, with Massa taking pole position, Schumacher is in the targets of Alonso's fast starting Renault. Looks like tomorrow will bet yet another great grandprix. THe last lap of qualifying today was breath taking. I didn't have a clue who would end up on pole. Button looked set to, then Alonso, then Massa, then Fisi, then Kimi. LOL. Unusual to see Schumi make the same mistake twice in a row in qualifying!



Can you say 'Beer Can' without sounding like a Jamaican saying 'Bacon'?
25 Bill142 : Raikkonen is probably running heavy. Whenever he's been at the pointy end of the grid, without doubt he's been running light. I'm also wondering how m
26 Post contains links and images Duff44 : Some F1 news: Midland/MF1 going Dutch with Spyker name?? http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/31705/ Now all they need is Heineken sponsors
27 Bill142 : There has been speculation that MF1 has been up for sale ever since Schnaider bought the team from Eddie Jordan. There has also been speculation that
28 Aleksandar : On an even more signicant role, there is 90% chance that this is Schumacher's farewell season. Sourse is very good. A local journalist from Belgrade
29 Nosedive : WTF happened to kimi? I´m on a long ass tour ATM, so I can´t see the race.
30 Post contains images Jamesbuk : Someone touched him at the beggining, he got a puncture and it damaged his rear wng, went into the pit came out and on turn 8 he flew onto the gravel
31 Nosedive : Sweet, I´ll have to look into that player when I have more time, but back to teh tour!!!!123
32 Waterpolodan : That was easily the best F1 race I have seen in a long, long time. Hungary was good, but it was a day for newcomers in the wet which always creates si
33 Legoguy : Schumi lost the race yesterday in Qualifying and also in the pits today when Schumi was stacked behind Massi. GReat drives from everyone and not forg
34 Waterpolodan : Schumacher was well within his bounds in his move at the first corner, he squeezed over to one side and then outbraked alonso on the inside, find a d
35 Post contains images Legoguy : Damn right. I just don't agree with any of what Ferrari does. I remember afew years ago, Barrichello had to pull over right before the line and let S
36 Jamesbuk : Yeh did you not know that 3 or 4 teams use these, just ferrari are the only one with balls to develop them further! Actually fisi tried to get down t
37 Post contains images Legoguy : LOL I should have checked my spelling there. Its terrible! LOL I must admit Im getting confused thinking about the start. I guess I can't really comm
38 Jamesbuk : To be honest i doubt it, if alot of teams are implementing them (and there not just the rich teams) then i think the FIA might just let this one go,
39 Post contains images AirbusA346 : What a damn shame the race ended there Tom.
40 Post contains images Notar520AC : I still can't believe Vettel's only 19! Justin
41 Bill142 : That all depends if they are deemed to be aero devices or not. Aero devices must be part of the body work. Ie wheel covers = illegal.
42 Sudden : Well, Best race of the season, although Kimi did not get very far. But it was close racing all the way to the end and Massa really deserved the victor
43 BA757 : I have only just seen all the race, I have had to watch it in parts as I simply haven't had the opportunity to watch it all. Nice win for Massa. Ron D
44 Bill142 : Alonso was about 19 when he raced for Minardi in 2001. What Renault did with Alonso is what McLaren need to do with Hamilton.
45 Post contains links BA757 : Arrivederci San Marino and Auf Wiedersehen European GP http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/5294664.stm I am glad I got to go to Imo
46 Nosedive : Eh, Canada, France, and the Uk have all been "axed" so I'll believe all this when I see it.
47 BA757 : Its no surprise that Italy and Germany have lost GPs though, seeing as they both have two. Ecclestone has said before that one of the races from thes
48 AirbusA346 : Why have they axed the San Marino GP and the European GP? Tom.
49 BA757 : To make way for new races I expect - thats what Ecclestone has been saying for a few years. Adam
50 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Simple: Globalisation aka more money for Ecclestone . According to him the F-1 was too Europe focused (well, d'uh, that's where most of the viewers c
51 Legoguy : Actually I read an article on Eccelstone. Apartently he ashes his own dishes and does all the house work etc etc, meaning he aint got no slaves... so
52 Bill142 : German GP will end up alternating between Hockenheim and Nurburgring. Hockenheim can't win on it's own. Axing Imola and European GP removes the de-fac
53 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Probably just keeping it on his bank account and watch it grow. Which is too bad, I'd know quite a few things I could do with all his money .
54 Post contains links BA757 : FIA investigate Turkish GP podium The FIA has launched an investigation into the podium ceremony at the Turkish Grand Prix following an official compl
55 Post contains images Pilotaydin : the same reason why the UK couldn't be friends with half the world back in the colony days
56 Alessandro : Well, Turkeys GP is on the calendar next year so I dont think it as a political row like the one that costed Argentine their GP.
57 Sudden : Ask his daughter, or even better, date her, as you would rather soon see where her fathers money goes. She is also part owner of the Ecclestone empir
58 Legoguy : Now that you mention it, if I remember correctly, his daughters also had to do the house work.LOL
59 Post contains images Virgin744 : Well, I guess that puts an early end to Turkey's F1 aspirations! I have to say, after watching them host a F1 for 2 seasons now, things were really s
60 Bill142 : His daughter is actually fairly cute from memory.
61 Pilotaydin : I understand that you're ticked off, but you really gotta look at what the intentions were. TRUST ME if Turkey wanted to make a political statement,
62 Sudden : She is indeed a good looking woman and she can be seen on the grid now and then as well. Aim for the sky! Sudden
63 Cornish : But nonetheless a pretty stupid move if it does indeed mean that Turkey loses the GP and possibly the World Championship Rally (which looks like it i
64 BA757 : The looks must come from the mother then! I was just going to mention that - surely if they lost F1 they would loose WRC, which would be a shame, as
65 Post contains links Legoguy : Just an update on the Ferrari rear wheel 'Frisbee's'. They have been deemed legal! (Taken from http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=37177) Fe
66 Post contains images Cornish : surprise surprise Honestly I didn't expect anything less - especially after the disgrace of the mass-dampers affair. They never should have been bann
67 Jamesbuk : Its not just ferrari that have them though, Toyota have them i believe so do one of the bmw teams and i think mclaren have them. Rgds --James--
68 Cornish : Ferrari, Toyota and Toro Rosso - so no teams that could be a threat to Ferrari.
69 Jamesbuk : Those are the ones. yeh but this is going to benefit everyone as alot more teams will now add this feature.(so the article said) Rgds --James--
70 BA757 : Absolutely right. FIA are wearing those rose tinted glasses again, one rule for Ferrari, one for everyone else. Adam
71 Legoguy : The FIA have made aload of weird decisions this year. The Alonso and Schumacher penalties come to mind. And all the nonsense over the mass dampers! N
72 Pilotaydin : so you're telling me that Turkey is going to be off the list because someone who most of the world, mainly greece and souther cyprus put together made
73 Legoguy : Formula One is mostly political these days and its a pile of crap! Formula One should be about the racing but somehow, politics find its way in to ru
74 Bill142 : But that's only internal politics. It's not often that politics relating to government outside the sport gets involved and is mainly related to issue
75 Cornish : Er no - its not about Greece or Cyprus complaining its about the FIA taking a strictly neutral stance in international politics and being duped into
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