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It's Official Then: No More Planet Pluto  
User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom (England), joined Sep 2003, 8207 posts, RR: 77
Posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 859 times:
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Leading astronomers have declared that Pluto is no longer a planet, approving new guidelines that downsize the solar system from nine planets to eight. The International Astronomical Union stripped Pluto of the planetary status it has held since its discovery in 1930.



I feel depressed! Sad

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/24/pluto.ap/index.html

I was aware of these but still, we just lost a planet. Post your condolences here.  Wink

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/1337830

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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 854 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/5282440.stm

Dammit.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 854 times:

As I said in a Military Aviation and Space thread: Poor Pluto!

It'll take some doing for me to catch myself when I try to remember how many planets we have in our Solar System.

"Eight, not nine!"

Seems so strange, somehow....

User currently offlineNighthawk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Sep 2001, 3828 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 837 times:

Define: planet

1) any of the nine large celestial bodies in the solar system that revolve around the sun and shine by reflected light; Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto in order of their proximity to the sun; viewed from the constellation Hercules, all the planets rotate around the sun in a counterclockwise direction

2) an object in orbit around a star that is not a star in its own right

Now, pluto is not a star, and it orbits round the sun, so that makes it a planet! Cmon astronomers, google says so, so it must be true!

ITS A PLANET!!!! REINSTATE IT NOW!!!!!


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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6082 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 818 times:

Hmmm, does that mean that Pluto gets deleted from Gustav Holst's masterpiece "The planets", too??? Poor Engerlaenders, only a few remarkable pieces in classical music and now THAT  silly 


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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States, joined Sep 2004, 2991 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 818 times:

Wasn't there a somewhat-recent release saying they had actually discovered a tenth planet? Now they're downsizing the solar system to eight??


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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 16398 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 807 times:

Quoting Andreas (Reply 4):
Hmmm, does that mean that Pluto gets deleted from Gustav Holst's masterpiece "The planets", too???

It isn't mentioned anyway!  mischievous 

User currently offlineSkidmarks From United Kingdom (England), joined Dec 2004, 6923 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 798 times:
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Now where are you going to go on holiday Alex? Big grin

Andy  old 


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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom (England), joined Sep 2003, 8207 posts, RR: 77
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 798 times:
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Quoting Skidmarks (Reply 7):
Now where are you going to go on holiday Alex?

The nearest thing to Pluto I could find, something desolate and empty.

The Isle of Man! Big grin


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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 798 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 5):
Wasn't there a somewhat-recent release saying they had actually discovered a tenth planet? Now they're downsizing the solar system to eight??

Sedna, Quaoar, Xena and a couple of others, as I recall, are considered Kuiper Belt Objects now. As is poor Pluto! Or are they Trans-Neptunian Objects? It's all quite confusing.

If Pluto is considered a Kuiper Belt Object, then so is Charon, its largest moon, and its two other, much-smaller moons.

Ceres remains a large asteroid, located much closer to Earth.

[Edited 2006-08-24 16:17:20]

User currently offline2H4 From United States, joined Oct 2004, 7249 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 798 times:
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Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 5):
Now they're downsizing the solar system to eight??

Hey, times are tough and oil prices are high. If the solar system hadn't been downsized to improve efficiency, chapter 11 would have been the only option.

I blame management.  Wink




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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 780 times:

Quoting Myt332 (Thread starter):
I was aware of these but still, we just lost a planet.

"I feel a great disturbance in the Force...."

 

[Edited 2006-08-24 16:13:03]

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States, joined Feb 2000, 6702 posts, RR: 18
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 767 times:

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 5):
Now they're downsizing the solar system to eight??

I think what will eventually happen, especially as more large objects are discovered beyond Neptune, is that some additional classification scheme will be needed for objects like Pluto, Sedna, and 2003 UB313. Size aside, b/c their orbits are often at odd inclinations and are highly eccentric (Sedna for example has an orbital period of 12050(!) years, gets as close as 76 AUs and as far as 975 AUs), they are clearly very different objects in how they came to be and what their role in the solar system is.


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User currently offlineSkidmarks From United Kingdom (England), joined Dec 2004, 6923 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 767 times:
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Quoting Myt332 (Reply 8):
The nearest thing to Pluto I could find, something desolate and empty.

The Isle of Man!

Touche, you bastard!! You'll get yours!!  devil 

Andy  old 


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User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States, joined Oct 2003, 4576 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 758 times:
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Quoting Andreas (Reply 4):
Hmmm, does that mean that Pluto gets deleted from Gustav Holst's masterpiece "The planets", too???

Pluto was never a movement in "The Planets" as Holst wrote it. The movement "Pluto, the Renewer" was written as an add-on by Colin Matthews in 2000.

From my perspective why not consider it a planet? It may not have "orbital dominance," but Pluto does have three satellites of its own (Charon, Nix, and Hydra) - why not just grandfather it as a planet and be done with it?


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User currently offlineSlamClick From United States, joined Nov 2003, 9934 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 742 times:

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 10):
Hey, times are tough and oil prices are high. If the solar system hadn't been downsized to improve efficiency, chapter 11 would have been the only option.

I blame management.

You may still expect the retirement plan to be scrapped!

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"Never go to Pluto, It's a Mickey Mouse Planet"
Robin Williams as Mork


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User currently offlineMhodgson From United Kingdom (England), joined Dec 2002, 4950 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 742 times:

What about my mnemonic?

My
Very
Easy
Method
Just
Speeds
Up
Naming
Planets

What am I supposed to do now?  cry 


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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 737 times:

By the way, NASA's New Horizons space probe may become the first and only spacecraft ever to have been launched toward a planet that ended up at a Kuiper Belt Object -- Pluto.

Regardless of that, I look forward to seeing New Horizon reach Pluto in years hence, if for nothing else than nostalgia's sake.

Come to think of it, it may be a greater honor for a spacecraft to visit a Kuiper Belt Object for the very first time -- that, and Charon, another such object, too! After all, visiting planets is so 2006.

 

[Edited 2006-08-24 16:38:10]

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 728 times:

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 16):
My
Very
Easy
Method
Just
Speeds
Up
Naming
Planets

I've never had to use any mnemonic, because I'm just that geeky. Nevertheless....

"My Very Easy Method Just Speeds Up Nothing"?

...Well, it was at least a try!

  

[Edited 2006-08-24 16:31:59]

User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 728 times:

Quoting Garnetpalmetto (Reply 14):
From my perspective why not consider it a planet? It may not have "orbital dominance," but Pluto does have three satellites of its own (Charon, Nix, and Hydra) - why not just grandfather it as a planet and be done with it?

Because science is based on models constructed from theory and observation, not sentimentality. Pluto does not fit the model parameters for being a planet. It's not like Pluto is offended.  Wink

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 728 times:

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 19):
It's not like Pluto is offended.  Wink

That's what they all said about Mars, too -- right before we had the War of the Worlds....

 Wink

User currently offlineSlamClick From United States, joined Nov 2003, 9934 posts, RR: 72
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 705 times:

Now what do we do with so many cases of this stuff?





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