Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7703 posts, RR: 55 Posted (6 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4273 times:
Air Events (who brought us the joyrides in Germany on the Iran Air 747SP, the Syrianair 727 and the Iranair 747-100 and others), are operating a series of enthusiasts' tours to Iran, where, for four or five days, you fly around on some pretty exotic birds (and some pretty far out straight-tourist stuff like Persepolis, Tehran, Kish Island, Necropolis, Shiraz etc etc). Next week's sold out trip includes two 707s of Saha, as well as two Iran Asseman 727s, a Tu204 of Mahan and a Tu154 of Iran Air Tours. There is a second tour going in November. Would you go to Iran for a lineup like this (it's quite cheap btw, I think 600 Euros incl hotels), or indeed, is anyone from here going?
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7703 posts, RR: 55 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3981 times:
Funnily enough I just got an email from Airevents advertising the November trip, with the itinerary now confirmed. The program will look as follows:
Saturday 25.11.2006: Flight to Tehran from Dubai (on Iran Aseman B727) or Western Europe
Sunday 26.11.2006: Flight on SAHA Air Boeing 707 to Mashad, city tour of Mashad
Monday 27.11.2006: Flight to Shiraz on Tupolev 154 by IRAN AIR TOURS
Tuesday 28.11.2006: Visit of Persepolis and flight on Iran Air A300 to Tehran
Wednesday 29.11.2006: Return flights to Western Europe or Mahan Air Tupolev 204 flight to Dubai
The price will be approximately €550 for double room accomodation from Tehran (with individual travel to Tehran) or €780 from Dubai (with flights on Iran Aseman Boeing 727 and Mahan Tupolev 204 to / from Tehran).
Prices include all domestic flights, sightseeing program, hotel accomodation in 3/4 star places, full board.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7703 posts, RR: 55 Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3914 times:
Quoting N1120A (Reply 4): Actually, Americans are welcome in Iran much in the same way they go to Cuba
I think this is true. It's the US government that puts these travel bans in place for American citizens, not the destination countries. In the 80s and 90s, Lebanon had no problem with American travellers (although, in the 80s at least, the citizenry weren't so thrilled by the idea), but if you went there, the US government fined you $25,000. I don't know if you get fined or imprisoned for visiting Iran nowadays, but Iran has no problem with it and by all accounts (hard to believe, but I've heard a lot of anecdotal wisdom to this effect), the Iranian people are delighted to welcome Americans to their country.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
Gr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 2987 posts, RR: 4 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3887 times:
In one of the pics above, of the 707 cabin, it says that the particular aircraft was converted from military use to pax use and thus does not have overhead bins, only racks.....however, from what I remember of 707's (and I flew on quite a few), they only had these type of overhead racks, not the bins that we see in modern aircraft.....
YULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2107 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3865 times:
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3827 times:
Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 8): Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Actually, Americans are welcome in Iran much in the same way they go to Cuba
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3803 times:
Go3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3266 posts, RR: 22 Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3788 times:
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5671 posts, RR: 29 Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3710 times:
Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 5): the Iranian people are delighted to welcome Americans to their country.
I would bet they would be nice. Most people are actually interested in meeting people from other places. Governments have disagreements, but most people are cool one on one. Sure you would get that odd one out, but most would be nice.
I would bet that the average Iranian is really just interested in having a nice life, a good family, a nice place to live, and good job. These are the things that most people in the world really want. When it comes down to it most people just want to live their lives and be left alone by the government.
Most people I know are not big fans of middle eastern Islamic people, but we would be friendly to him if he wasn't causing any trouble. I would go out of my way to show him that were are not all the infidels that Hollywood and the rap music make us out to be. A working class American and a working class Iranian probably have a lot in common. I have never been to Iran, but sometimes it feels like it here in the Detroit area.
"it feels like an Iraqi city" a quote from an Iraqi on visiting Dearborn. This was in the Detroit Free Press a few years ago.
Luv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 11957 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3684 times:
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 10): .regardless of faith, creed...etc...I would hope all are welcome...
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5671 posts, RR: 29 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3660 times:
I have a friend who he and is wife went to the USSR in 1974. They were met by more curiosity than anything else. Most people had not ever seen an American before. They have never said a bad word about anyone they met there. Nobody gave them a hard time and that was when the USSR was supposed to be the big time bad guys.
When in Rome...
Act non Jewish? Tell em' your last name is Jones and you are from Pinkneyville, Illinois.
Don't act gay ! Where a pin that says. I like big boobs or something. Put a Hustler in you suitcase (good trade material)
Lie an say your Canadian if anyone non-offical asks eh! Everyone likes Canada.
I have worked with a guy who was on US merchant ships for 28 years and he said that in ports they could always get top dollar/or good trades, for prono videos and other smut from ship crews from Islamic countries. That just goes to show that some people just don't give a damn about religion. The two biggest drug dealers at my school (where I work) were both "muslims".
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3585 times:
NorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1713 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3396 times:
hmm, i'm 25 percent Norwegian, i wonder if i could get an EU passport, and save all the hassles i'd have trying to get back into the United States with an Iranian Visa in my passport.......
I could have elite status if I wanted it, but flying the same airline all the time is boring.
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3372 times:
Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 16): hmm, i'm 25 percent Norwegian, i wonder if i could get an EU passport, and save all the hassles i'd have trying to get back into the United States with an Iranian Visa in my passport.......
I am going a bit OT here but ...
Norway isn't in the EU , but if you can get a Norwegian passport it is probably worth a try , I am on tenterhooks at the moment as I am meant to be going to Iran on 1 September , but I was silly enough to apply on my British passport and I got turned down , I am trying again on my New Zealand passport and should find out this afternoon whether I get it - so my advise is that if you have eligibility for any other passport you should try it ...
anyway , back on track , assuming that I do get my visa I am sure that passing through THR airport I will see a lot of vintage a/c ( at least I would if my flights weren't at such anti-social and anti-spotting hours - my FRA-THR arrives in around 00:30 and my flight home departs around 02:00 )
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
Kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 14 Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3243 times:
Woohoo! Just been down to the Iranian Embassy and I have got my visa ... sadly I dont think my other half is going to be too keen on spending much time spotting at THR
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3091 times:
Quoting Go3Team (Reply 11): What about Gay Jewish Crossdressing Transsexual Americans sporting a copy of Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie.
Welcome to my respected user list.
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3091 times:
Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 19): Woohoo! Just been down to the Iranian Embassy and I have got my visa ... sadly I dont think my other half is going to be too keen on spending much time spotting at THR
I have no political bear on any country. I would love to do this trip and am only feeling threatened by one thing...
If I went my girlfriend will strangle me.
Apart from that.. I would love to be there... last chance to fly a 707..
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7703 posts, RR: 55 Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3065 times:
PS not to seem disrespectful to your girlfriend, everyone I've spoken to has said it's a crazy idea, except those who have been there, who say it's a beautiful and friendly and almost completely normal country.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
25 Richierich: You'd get some funny looks in Times Square or Piccadilly Circus. Maybe it would be OK in Vegas... Killing people is not part of the Muslim faith eith
26 EXAAUADL: yes, but where can you buy it in Iran? Iran is actually less extreme than Saudi Arabia. Difference is the Saudis are quiet about their support for te
27 AMSSpotter: Why avoid the Tu154...if they were to crash more than average, it's probably because of bad maintenance and/or hard conditions they have to fly in. T
28 Dc10s4ever: I would love to go on this trip. As an American citizen, I am not allowed to go to Iran.
29 Jacobin777: I know many Americans with US passports who go to Iran...
30 N1120A: Pork can be bought in stores in Armenian neighborhoods while alcohol can be distilled in one's home. The new guy is nothing but a mouth. People need
31 NorthstarBoy: is Iran willing to stamp the visa on a separate piece of paper that you can throw away once you leave Iran? otherwise, you really can't keep it a sec
33 Helvknight: As far as I know they will do this, for instance Saudi citizens get this treatment (Iranians are Shia muslims, Saudis are Wahabbi Sunnis, who conside
34 EXAAUADL: I strongly disagree. Not since Mein Kampf has a leader been so succinct with his plans for the future.
35 Airdolomiti: I have fond memories of the Air Events IR 747SP flight - fantastic stuff. I would really love to take part in this trip, but sadly it interferes with
36 MCIGuy: Where does IRI get spare parts for these birds? Isn't Boeing forbidden from sending anything there? BTW, I won't be doing this any time soon. I'm old
37 Steeler83: As much as I would love to fly on a 707, you're not getting me anywhere near Iran!
38 AndrewUber: If you have ever visited Israel, and have an Israeli stamp in your passport, you needn't bother going. You will be turned back at the airport. Drew
39 MCIGuy: Well, how about the fact that I refuse to support an Islamofacist regime with a mad man for a leader who may soon bring massive destruction to his cou
40 N1120A: Iran Focus is probably the worst source this side of JPost to use. While things are definitely less than perfect in Iran, they are nowhere near the pr
41 BNE: Sounds like a great trip, some old aircraft and a holiday to a different place in the world. I wonder if Australians can book with them. Might have to
42 JJJ: Exactly the same the other way around. I had to get a clean passport in order to enter Israel, as the old one had visas from Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, a
43 Gr8Circle: Are you sure of that..? In that part of the world, the religion itself, as well as the Shariat law, dictates that women be treated differently in mos
44 EXAAUADL: He is the President and by far the most visible face of Iran's govt. He probaly is saying in public what all of Iran's mullahs think. Since the end o
46 AirxLiban: I'd like to go on this trip since I now live closeby, but: 1. Can't get the time off work 2. Would like my visit to Iran to be a prolonged stay and re
47 Alessandro: I think anyone can go as long as they dont have anything to do with Israel.
48 JoeCattoli: I would definitely go in Iran if i had time and money.. I saw the beautiful countryside of Iran on an Emirates flight and absolutely loved these sight
49 MEA-707: re 2- you can stay longer in Iran on your own or arrive earlier, one package is just the bit in Iran. 3- They use the 747s to western Europe, you mig
50 AirxLiban: Thanks for the reply MEA-707. Lol...sorry, I meant seats on the Airevents excursion, not the Saha Air 707!
51 N1120A: Um, try Israel, the USSR, the US, China and North Korea. Guess what else? These places actually have nuclear technology, Iran doesn't and has made se
52 YULWinterSkies: I know, I was just surprised about the enthusiasm about flying a Tu154 from a tour airline from a country where domestic air transportation safety ca
53 EXAAUADL: This quote goes to the heart of why there is no future for western civ in Europe. The last sentence is a gem OTOH is there still a 707 flying in Arge
54 MCIGuy: It is completely amazing to me how naive much of the world is today. You don't really think IRI needs/wants nuclear energy for electricity? In a coun
55 BHXFAOTIPYYC: Just how long are you planning to stay ??!! This would be an excellent trip. I would have no problems at all visiting Iran, and I've had several Iran
56 TUGMASTER: Charlie, looks like your thread has been hijacked by the IRAN v's Anti IRAN Brigade.... As for the trip, as we all know, those guys at Airevents are t
57 QANTAS077: I'm quite interested in the tour...does anyone know what the ramp shooting possibilities are at Tehran?
58 JoeCattoli: I'm not THAT stupid, but u can't say they did threat America as no one did. That's why I wrote that many thinks a lot of countries are getting Nuclea
59 Yegbey01: anyone that goes to iran is supporting a terrorist regime...
60 Jacobin777: actually President Musharraf has said that Pakistan "should recognise Israel"...that's counter to your comment... I say anyone going to Israel is sup
61 Moek2000: Not only in Iran, but majority of the foreign muslim countries actually welcome Americans. As a matter of fact, sometimes they give you special treat
62 Yirina77: I have been to Iran by myself 3 times, I flew with Saha B707 from Tehran to Kish (ticket costs 56 USD) and with Tupolev154 Kish Air and others airplan