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User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

I was going to www.apple.com to look at the trailers for some movies I was interested in seeing this fall. Then this trailer caught my attention: "The Queen". There was no mistake who this woman was playing. So I watched it. This is going into some behinds the scenes plot of the events after Diana's death and how the Queen handled the situation. If its okay with the moderators here, here is the link to the trailer in quick time
http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/thequeen/

Do the makers of this have some sort of basis for this movie? I was very saddened by Diana's death, that was my freshman year of High School year as well.

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User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

Oh - my - god.

Aside from the fact that this is NOT the Queen that I am familiar with, this film looks a total farce!

QFF


User currently offlineScamp From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1774 times:

Quoting Tsaord (Thread starter):
"The Queen".

It'll be interesting to see if this one has an audience. Especially in the US.



If it pisses off the right, I'm all for it.
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13737 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1766 times:

It actually looks like quite a good film. I'll be looking forward to that.

I'll probaly be watching it alone though!



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1756 times:

I love Helen Mirren, and will go to see the film.

User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

I'm still quite shocked by all this. It's quite unprecedented. No semi-ficticious/semi-historic dramatic feature film has EVER been made about my country's head of state. This could well have an impact upon the way the monarchy is viewed (we all know the power of movies). It could have ramifications...

Blimey. I'm a bit thrown by this one.

QFF


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13737 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

Yes, I was about to ask if there was any factual basis for any of this or if it's all based on conjecture and hyperbole.

I don't think the movie has a proper website yet.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineCanuckpaxguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1630 times:

I just downloaded the trailer. It looks good actually. If it turns out to be crap, the scenery and video footage would still make it a worthwhile 90 minutes.

Helen Mirren is a great actress. I would imagine the Queen is a very difficult role to play, particularly since this film seems to attempt to portray a sensitive and human side of Her Majesty we don't usually see. It's almost as if Ms. Mirren would need to 'invent' that part of her character on her own.

G


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1622 times:

Good God! Zefram Cochrane is shagging the Queen?

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/caps/cochrane-fc4.jpg


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1620 times:

Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 5):
No semi-ficticious/semi-historic dramatic feature film has EVER been made about my country's head of state.


What about "Wag the Dog" and "Primary Colors"?

Mark

[Edited 2006-08-29 04:01:48]

User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1588 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 9):
What about "Wag the Dog" and "Primary Colors"?

It may be news to you, but the President of the United States isn't Australia's head of state.

QFF


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1582 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 10):
It may be news to you, but the President of the United States isn't Australia's head of state.

Why the American flag?

Mark


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 11):
Why the American flag?

I can't stand my country's flag, and I like the USA.

QFF


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24899 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 12):
I can't stand my country's flag

It's not your country if you aren't Australian  Wink  stirthepot 



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8440 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1528 times:
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Quoting QANTASFOREVER (Reply 5):
my country's head of state



Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 12):
I can't stand my country's flag

We are all aware of your feelings on the monarchy but make up your mind, if you accept (and by implication the above quote says you do) the Queen as your head of state then you should accept the Union Jack's place on the Australian flag.



After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 13):
It's not your country if you aren't Australian

At least Australia is a country.

Quoting Andz (Reply 14):
if you accept (and by implication the above quote says you do) the Queen as your head of state then you should accept the Union Jack's place on the Australian flag.

No, I don't have to do that. Why on earth should I? I live in a democracy and can oppose anything I want. Let me tell you Andz, I'm not alone in my beliefs. Your lot got rid of the Union Flag, why aren't we allowed to?

QFF


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13737 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1510 times:

Oh for . sake, now look what it's turned in to.

Ride your high horses elsewhere!



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

Quoting Singapore_Air (Reply 16):
Oh for . sake, now look what it's turned in to.

Nah, don't worry about it. We were only talking about a movie. I'm very interested in hearing Andz's reasoning.

QFF


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 15):
Your lot got rid of the Union Flag, why aren't we allowed to?

You can whenever you want. It's Australians that persist in incorporating our flag, and having our head of state.


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 18):
You can whenever you want.

777236ER, you're not stupid. You know it's not as simple as that. A compelling case has to be put, we have to agree, not just as a majority but as an overwhealming majority. If you wish to further your argument within my country I welcome it.

Quoting 777236ER (Reply 18):
and having our head of state.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: it's the price you pay for having had an empire. We have a shared monarchy, and I like it about as much as you do.

QFF


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1475 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 19):
Quoting 777236ER (Reply 18):
You can whenever you want.

777236ER, you're not stupid. You know it's not as simple as that. A compelling case has to be put, we have to agree, not just as a majority but as an overwhealming majority. If you wish to further your argument within my country I welcome it.

No, it isn't as simple as that. But it is still down entirely to Australia and Australians, and no-one else.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1468 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 20):
But it is still down entirely to Australia and Australians, and no-one else.

Of course, that was never disputed. Why point out something so obvious?

Banco - it's like old times!

QFF


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1460 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 21):
Of course, that was never disputed. Why point out something so obvious?

Because that's what 777236ER meant, down to you (Australians) not you personally...God help us all.  Wink

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 21):
Banco - it's like old times!

Indeed. Have I called you a convict recently? Big grin



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 22):
God help us all.

You may place your faith in the church of england, but I'm naturally reluctant.

I find it interesting that despite our combative relationship, 777236ER and I are actually advocating the same thing - making Elizabeth the second the Queen of Great Britain to the exclusion of all other nations, and making the union flag the flag of the UK exclusively. We should be best friends in theory!

Quoting Banco (Reply 22):
Indeed. Have I called you a convict recently?

Wouldn't matter if you did, they were all poms anyway.  Smile


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 19):
777236ER, you're not stupid. You know it's not as simple as that. A compelling case has to be put, we have to agree, not just as a majority but as an overwhealming majority. If you wish to further your argument within my country I welcome it.

It is that simple, really. All you have to do is convince Australians that it's the right thing to do, so I don't really understand why you instead try to convince a bunch of foreigners on an aircraft website.

Quoting QANTASforever (Reply 23):

I find it interesting that despite our combative relationship, 777236ER and I are actually advocating the same thing - making Elizabeth the second the Queen of Great Britain to the exclusion of all other nations, and making the union flag the flag of the UK exclusively. We should be best friends in theory!

I am seriously not advocating anything, I really really aren't. I don't have an agenda at all! I don't care either way if Australia has the Queen as the head of state, has her as the state's number one enemy or if it broadcasts Elizabeth II Porn 24 hours a day on all TV channels.

It's not us you have to convince, its your fellow countrymen.


25 Post contains images Gman94 : Now we really didn't need that image put into our heads.
26 Post contains images Andz : Reasoning? From me?? Surely you jest! Discussing politics is boring to me, if I do it too long I fall aslzzzzzzzzzz
27 QANTASforever : Do you think I don't realise who needs to be convinced? The idea may be simple, but you surely must appreciate the execution is an extremely complex
28 777236ER : My God. OK, fine, from this point on my official position on the matter is 'the Queen stays the head of state for Australia'. If you keep going, I'll
29 QANTASforever : Clearly pontificating holds your attention, pontify away... 'Qantasforever' will suffice. QFF
30 Andz : That would be "pontification holds your attention, pontificate away..." "you lot"?? what was that about being condescending?
31 QANTASforever : Your ability to detect subtle humour isn't what it used to be. Quiet in the peanut gallery. QFF
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