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User currently offlineTPAflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 92 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4402 times:

I searched for previous threads and I only found two but they were over 5 years old and I just wanted an updated opinion. Im a senior in HS and really want to fly for an airline for a living. Ive been looking over Embry-Riddle and Ive heard great things and not so great things. I just want to ask all of you what you would think the best path for me would be to get into the cockpit of an airliner someday, and if Embry-Riddle would be the best route. I know Purdue and Western Michigan have good flight programs but I would like to stay in Florida as much as possible for scholarship reasons. So any feedback would be great!

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User currently offlineIlikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4375 times:

First of all, Welcome to A.net!

Secondly, this topic is more of a non-aviation topic. Don't be surprised if it gets moved there. Did you try searching non-aviation?

Since your e-mail is with held, e-mail me and I'll let you know what I think of the school. I graduated there last year.



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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4351 times:

I go to the PRC campus and I'm loving it. PRC has the better flight program. I'm a junior. You'll hear all sorts of crap about the school from people here that have no clue about what they're saying. You got to talk to guys like me or graduates if you want the real picture. All you're going to get out of the drop-outs is BS. So ya feel free to contact me through my profile.

[Edited 2006-09-01 04:45:22]

User currently onlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4329 times:

I had friends that went there and they said they liked it. One is going there to become an airline pilot. Its a good school and its in Florida.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8341 posts, RR: 23
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4322 times:

If you're flying do part 61, don't do it in college. College is WAY overpriced and it's all politics. If you do a flight major do aviation managment or similar and take flight lessons on your own at a private school. I can't stress enough how big of a waste taking flying lessons at a university is, especially ERAU. The name on a degree doesn't matter if you're trying to fly for the airlines. If it's what you want to do, fine, but there are better ways of getting your license.


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User currently onlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4315 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 4):
If it's what you want to do, fine, but there are better ways of getting your license.

Amen to that, i'm getting mine locally.

MCOflyer



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineCleco From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 569 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4298 times:

Riddle is a great school. Just be prepared to be dedicated to flying. I've seen a lot of kids leave saying "they ruined flying for me". People say this because they're not willing to work, and think its all about hanging out and making a landing and takeoff. Also, get your private and as many licenses as possible before you get here. As a freshman they may try to tell you that you have to wait to fly, thats BS, just push them on it, they'll give in.


EMBRY-RIDDLE BABY
User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

Oh crap! duck 

This will probably be a fun one.

You either love or hate the place and with flight departments, the same holds true.

Embry Riddle has a lot going for it and probably isn't that bad of a school. However...(and this is my personal opinion, so don't ya'll get your panties all wadded up if you don't like it)

I feel Riddle is very expensive for what you get, Daytona has a lot left to be desired, you will probably get a more well rounded education (and women) at another school, not that many options beyond transferring if you don't like aviation anymore, and yeah, no women. biggrin 

I grew up in Florida and was in the same situation. I looked at both Jacksonville University (Delta Connection), that's for another thread, and ERAU. I wasn't too impressed with either.

I knew I would get a good education at Riddle, but had a feeling that living and breathing aviation 24/7 would get old quick and as much as I love pilots, hanging out with them gets old after a while (Yes, I know you can land your 172 on a point +/- 10 feet, can we PLEASE talk about something else....).

There are a ton of good schools elsewhere in the country that:
A.) Are cheaper,
B.) Allow you to study something else other than Aviation Science (its really a pretty worthless degree outside aviation), and
C.) let you have a more rounded college experience.


My advice, whether or not you decide to go to Riddle:

Start here and look at all of the schools.

http://uaa.auburn.edu

Don't discount any because the name doesn't sound impressive! I did that and almost missed out on where I went, and that would have sucked!

Some things to find out from the schools you like:

1. What are the flight fees? How many hours does it take for the normal student to finish each course?

-Ask a couple of people this, not just the admissions folks, they tend to have the "marketing" info in front of them. Avoid taking the canned, minimum times numbers. Very few actually gets their certificate at minimum times, you will probably go over.

2. What internships are available AND (this is REALLY important) where have students from this university actually gone?

-Many internships will take apps from any student, Southwest is a great example. However, just because an internship is available doesn't mean that students from that particular university have ever even been seriously considered for it. In my opinion, internships are the best things you can do in college. Aviation is about knowing people and its about the best way to do that and get your foot in the door.

3. Who does the flight training? Is it Part 141 or Part 61?

-Personally, if you are paying college bucks for flying, it better be Part 141 and in house, there is more structured and better quality control.

4. What certificates will I graduate with? Can you get your CFI through the school and what does that entail?

-You really need the CFI to be marketable after school unless you have some connections or set yourself up to do some banner towing, which isn't a bad gig either.

5. Are you accredited?

-Another great website to look at: http://www.caaaccreditation.org/programs.html

6. Maintenance? Who does it? How often are the planes inspected?

-The minimum is every 100 hours, however most good programs do an inspection every 50 hours. As a former instructor, in house maintenance is definitely an advantage, downtime is usually minimal and its nice to have an A&P to look at something if its iffy.

That's just a short list of questions to ask. Remember, the admissions folks probably don't have a clue about flying. So get a hold of someone at the flightline and talk to them.

Good luck and feel free to PM me if you have any other questions. I used to work in admissions and am a former university flight instructor, so I might know what I'm talking about.

GreatChecko

PS. I highly suggest looking at Parks College of Saint Louis University  Wink . I know some people there if you want me to point you in the right direction. It isn't the only good school out there though.

http://www.slu.edu/

I enjoyed myself in college, not just because of the flying, but because I made a group of friends with diverse interests and had the advantages of a big city on my side as well.



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4262 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 4):
The name on a degree doesn't matter if you're trying to fly for the airlines. If it's what you want to do, fine, but there are better ways of getting your license.

Your right, why get a four year degree when its required. Also it does make a difference, ask Horizon, and Pinnacle to name a couple about how they prefer UND grads and go beyond their "low" hours of hiring....



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User currently offlineTheGreatChecko From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

Quoting Ilikeyyc (Reply 1):
Secondly, this topic is more of a non-aviation topic. Don't be surprised if it gets moved there. Did you try searching non-aviation?

It probably has has more to do with aviation than some of the threads on here right now.

Quoting N766UA (Reply 4):
If you're flying do part 61, don't do it in college. College is WAY overpriced and it's all politics. If you do a flight major do aviation managment or similar and take flight lessons on your own at a private school. I can't stress enough how big of a waste taking flying lessons at a university is, especially ERAU. The name on a degree doesn't matter if you're trying to fly for the airlines. If it's what you want to do, fine, but there are better ways of getting your license.

For the most part, you are right, the name has little to do with where you get hired, but it might have a lot to do with getting your foot in the door.

Career Fairs, speakers, internships, just some of a few things that a college will allow you to do that a Part 61 flight school won't.

You don't like politics, huh. biggrin 

If you haven't figured it out by reading this board pilots have opinions about everything, they are always right, and can be pretty good drama queens at times (myself included probably).

This industry is full of politics and it doesn't get any prettier wherever you go.

GreatChecko

[Edited 2006-09-01 05:46:09]


"A pilot's plane she is. She will love you if you deserve it, and try to kill you if you don't...She is the Mighty Q400"
User currently offlineATCme From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4252 times:

I visited the University of North Dakota campus over the summer and they have a very good flying program. I was impressed with their instructors and all the opportunities a pilot has there to get hours in different planes. They even have a new CRJ simulator.
But I haven't been to or seen the ERAU campus, so I can't comment on that. But as for scholarships, if you think that you are going to lose more than $4,000 a year by going out of state then stay at ERAU, but UND seems a lot cheaper...

ATCme  spin 

This is my opinion and I CLEARLY stated that I haven't been to ERAU, so don't flame me.



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User currently offlineFlightShadow From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4180 times:

I had my heart set on ERAU until I actually talked to various students in aviation programs across the nation. ERAU is VERY expensive ( I didn't need other people to tell me that ) and, along with other opinions in this thread, I'm starting to think that it is somewhat overpriced for what you get.

Granted, I'm aiming for ATC and not flying, but right now I'm planning on UND (University of North Dakota). Everyone I've talked to says it's a great school (for both ATC and Flying), and although it's definitely not in Florida, I think it's worth a look.

It is also much cheaper to get licenses from a company rather than a college. Right now I beileve the Commercial License costs ~30,000USD from a private company versus that + tuition + other classes at a college.



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User currently offlineERAUgrad02 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4118 times:

I of course went to ERAU but i also applied to THE FLORIDA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY as well in melborne, fl. also someone commented aboutb alot being desired in daytona. they are right. i lived in orlando and drove 30 miles to school. its so much better living there if u can.


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User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1568 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4107 times:

Quoting N766UA (Reply 4):
If you're flying do part 61, don't do it in college. College is WAY overpriced and it's all politics. If you do a flight major do aviation managment or similar and take flight lessons on your own at a private school. I can't stress enough how big of a waste taking flying lessons at a university is, especially ERAU. The name on a degree doesn't matter if you're trying to fly for the airlines. If it's what you want to do, fine, but there are better ways of getting your license.

Thats why American Eagle, Horizon, Mesa, Great Lakes and a number of other carriers have lower then there lowest minimums for college pilots?  confused 

Don't listen to garbage like this. I go to ERAU and it was the best decision of my life. I am not going to push ERAU on you, but you really should get a degree in aviation at a well know college. If you want to be a pilot, fly at a college. The college will prepare you immensely for the airline world. Flying can be very tough and vigorous, but that's exactly what the airline world is like. When your at college, make as many contacts as you can and I promise you they will open up doors through out the aviation world. Because of the contacts I have made here at ERAU, I have gotten jet time, an internship with the FAA, internship offers at various big name airlines, as well a possible job all lined up when I graduate. Go to mom and pops part 61 FBO on the weekends to have fun and dink around in. But if your looking to fly the heavy metal, fly at a university. I suggest visit as many as you can, and see which one best fits your lifestyle and pocket book. I will tell you one good thing about ERAU!! Ask any pilot, foreign or domestic and they will tell you they have heard of ERAU. Believe you me, I have tried it!!!



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User currently offlineOrdryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4093 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 3):
Its a good school and its in Florida.

It is a good school, he's right. but please note : it's in florida, thats reason enough not to go there...



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User currently offlineFL370 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4082 times:

ya i have a friend that goes to embry riddle in prescot, he says its not a big school but at the same time pretty good. i've heard only good news from him



fl370


User currently offlineXjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2471 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4037 times:

Riddle is a great school. We have quality profs for the in class stuff and decent instructors and very well maintained aircraft. IIRC we just acquired 8 new 172s from Independence this week, so the potential is there.

But whether or not you go part 61 or come here to Riddle's part 142, you are still going to be able to fly the metal. If you go part 61, make sure to acquire a college degree, or if you go part 141 at a school at Flight Safety or All ATPs or something like those, still get a college degree.

As a product of two part 61 certs, I see Riddle students and the AS program as a factory spitting really low time pilots out with or without a CFI/II to which they have to still build hours. I have 231 hours and I have more time than any of our new commercial multi students.

Quoting CBPhoto (Reply 14):

Thats why American Eagle, Horizon, Mesa, Great Lakes and a number of other carriers have lower then there lowest minimums for college pilots?

Actually all non-college hardcore Part 141 schools to the likes of All ATPS, Flight Safety, RAA, etc have the lowest. In fact, I have yet to see the difference in times from a collegiate flight school to a part 61 school.

Quoting Ordryan28 (Reply 15):
it's in florida, thats reason enough not to go there...



Quoting TPAflyer (Thread starter):
but I would like to stay in Florida as much as possible for scholarship reasons

 banghead 

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 8):
Your right, why get a four year degree when its required.

Four year degrees are "recommended" not required. They would prefer a college degree and along with that your ATP, which you cannot get until at least 1500 hours. And keep in mind that is the ATP cert not just the written.
source: http://www.pilotjobs.com/

Bottom line is, visit all the schools as you can (as previously mentioned). Chose the best one that fits you, not what you can fit into.

Best of luck!

XJR



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User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1568 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4009 times:

Quoting Xjramper (Reply 16):
Actually all non-college hardcore Part 141 schools to the likes of All ATPS, Flight Safety, RAA, etc have the lowest. In fact, I have yet to see the difference in times from a collegiate flight school to a part 61 school.

Believe you me I am not trying to get into a fight with you or anything! I do however know, that American Eagle has a agreement with ERAU, that if you have a 3.0 GPA, as well as a letter of recomendation from the dean of AS, the minimum required hours to apply is 500 total time and 100 multi time. These required hours are good all year round, no matter what the company minimums are at the time of application. I know a few other colleges and flight accademys have this.

Quoting Xjramper (Reply 16):
Four year degrees are "recommended" not required

This is true, however, as a pilot you will loose your competitive edge over fellow pilots if you do not have a degree of some sorts. You can not get anywhere in todays world with out at least a degree, even if it is in basket weaving!!!

My advice before I retire for the night: Kids, stay in school!!!



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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

I went to ERAU in daytona, im 25 years old, I now fly for Turkish Airlines on the 737-400/800 as a F/O, compared to people who just got their ratings at flight schools versus a flight degree at college...we're miles and miles ahead

so it does matter if you go to college or not, it doesn't matter really which uni it is as long as it's known for it's aviation..



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User currently offlineDw9115 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 449 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3987 times:

I went to ERAU and I fly for Delta and I flew for SkyWest in my regional days and I can tell you a degree matters a very very lot and yes the type of degree does matter but if you choose ERAU, UND, or Purdue (all of which are great but expensive schools) they will help you find which best fits your career goals wants and needs. I know a lot of people are going to tell you a lot of things like you just go to the local FBO and get your license and build hours and maybe get a liberal arts degree some place and no problem you’ll get hired at 1200 hours. Well they are setting you up for failure and are probably not flying for a living but instead wishing they could and will put anyway down you wish to take to achieve your goals. You can still become a pilot that way but it is becoming harder everyday and you will find yourself at a disadvantage when you are hired because of the very people you are competing against for promotion's etc. have been to one of the only 23 CAA (Council on Aviation Accreditation) approved schools (EXTREMELY IMPORTANT see link http://flighttraining.aopa.org/ft_ma...fm?id=5649&issue_title=June%202006 ). If you choose ERAU or another school you will always have typical school BS that just goes with the territory and if this is what you really want to do this it will not matter as long you get to fly. There are cheaper schools out there that are CAA approved like University of Nebraska at Omaha that can offer the same education at a fraction of the price as ERAU, UND or Purdue. The best advice anyone can tell you is look at each school you are considering very closely and see if they will fit your educational needs and also your financial needs because there is no point in going to a school and paying all that money if you are unable to finish which happens to a lot of students at ERAU that do not plan ahead as to what they will need to complete there training. Also go to your local airport and talk to some actual pilots that fly for a living because they are what you want to be and they can help you (usually more then willing and it will help you make contacts for later) and explain things to you better then the 99.99% of people that post on A.NET that have never touched the controls of an actual aircraft. Best of luck and if flying is what you really want it will be the most rewarding career you could ever choose.

CAA APPROVED SCHOOLS

Arizona State University, Mesa, Arizona
Auburn University, Auburn, Alabama
Central Missouri State University, Warrensburg, Missouri
Daniel Webster College, Nashua, New Hampshire
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona Beach, Florida, and Prescott, Arizona
Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne, Florida
Hampton University, Hampton, Virginia
Kansas State University, Salina, Kansas
Kent State University, Kent, Ohio
Louisiana Tech University, Ruston, Louisiana
Mercer County Community College, Trenton, New Jersey
Middle Tennessee State University, Murfreesboro, Tennessee
North Shore Community College, Danvers, Massachusetts
Parks College of Engineering, Aviation, and Technology of
St. Louis University, St. Louis, Missouri
Purdue University, West Lafayette, Indiana
St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minnesota
University of Dubuque, Dubuque, Iowa
University of Nebraska at Omaha, Omaha, Nebraska
University of North Dakota, Grand Forks, North Dakota
University of Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma
Utah State University, Logan, Utah
Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, Michigan

[Edited 2006-09-01 09:01:05]

User currently offlineReins485 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3961 times:

Quoting TheGreatChecko (Reply 7):
I highly suggest looking at Parks College of Saint Louis University

I agree that you should check SLU out, I am a physics and math major and I am in Parks College at SLU. SLU used to have a good deal, with the min. hours being free and they would charge you for your over time. However, last year's class was the last one to get the deal because it was bankrupting the parks college to the point that they have moved physics to college of arts and sciences (but i am grandfathered in, which i am happy about). Also, i know several pilots here who have a second major, including one in physics. So if you want to study another subject along with flying it is not hard to do at SLU. And don't let the cost of SLU set you off because 93% of the students receive finical aid. I got a decent scholarship just because of my high school G.P.A., which wasn't that amazing. I am really happy at SLU.

I don't know as much about ERAU, but my cousin graduated from there and now works for the air force. He can't fly because of medical reasons for them. I know he was very happy there. I was thinking about flying and I looked at ERAU. The only major drawback about ERAU is the small amount of majors that they offer making it difficult to change fields, which as of now your heart is on flying, and you never know if you want to change fields of study.

But I would recomend either of these schools as well as several others, such as Auburn, I know a few pilots there and Middle Tennessee State University, which also has a good flying program. (I am from Nashville) I also checked out the flying program at Southern Illinois University Carbondale and it has a good program as well. I was thinking about becoming a pilot before I fell in love with physics.

My advice is check out as many schools as possible. I applied to around 15 (my parents were nuts about me applying to a ton of schools) and not only does it give you more options, you also gain a lot of knowledge and can come up with more questions to ask the schools before picking one.

Alex
P.S. if you have questions about SLU feel free to contact me and I can answer them or have one of my pilot friends answer your questions.

P.S.S. FYI SLU has a very large girl to guy ratio, I think its at least 60:40 girls to guys, which is always nice bigthumbsup .


User currently offlineFutureUALpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3892 times:

It is your college, so do something you like, but, every airline pilot I have talked to has highly reccomended I major in something other than flight, because you cannot be certain that you will be able to fly forever and should have something to fall back on. You may want to fly, but checkrides, medicals, and life sometimes unfortunately have other ideas. I want to be an airline pilot as well, but I am flying outside of school and progressing just fine.


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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6912 posts, RR: 34
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3862 times:

Quoting TheGreatChecko (Reply 7):
I feel Riddle is very expensive for what you get, Daytona has a lot left to be desired, you will probably get a more well rounded education (and women) at another school, not that many options beyond transferring if you don't like aviation anymore, and yeah, no women.

I would concur with this. ERAU is very expensive and probably not the best value. Whether critics love or hate ERAU, you are paying for the name and reputation. Much of that is legitimate, some of it not as much.

I've heard people gush over their grads and others that are indifferent and yet others that are outright hostile claiming ERAU is a total ripoff, completely over-rated, etc.

The correct answer is that it is what YOU make it. As a student, as an alumnus, and as a professional, whether it's as a pilot and aviator, or engineer, or business person.


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3844 times:

Quoting ATCme (Reply 10):
I visited the University of North Dakota campus over the summer and they have a very good flying program. I was impressed with their instructors and all the opportunities a pilot has there to get hours in different planes. They even have a new CRJ simulator.

WMU has a new CRJ sim, too, and a brand new fleet of Cirrus SR20's and 22's.

Also, we are about a 1/3rd less than UND and HALF the price of Riddle.

Over the past 12 months, roughly 15-20% of flight students at WMU have transferred in from Riddle claiming it was TOO EXPENSIVE.



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User currently offlineTransWorldSTL From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3807 times:

Quoting Flyingbronco05 (Reply 23):
Over the past 12 months, roughly 15-20% of flight students at WMU have transferred in from Riddle claiming it was TOO EXPENSIVE.

Well, I guess you've gotta pay for all the gawdy buildings on the Daytona Campus somehow! After visiting ERAU for about 10 minutes, I quickly realized the administration is trying to attract students simply by the looks of the campus. I'm sure alot of the academics are great too, but whats the point if you're going to be in debt for the rest of your life so you can go to a pretty school?

Also, IMO, having your heart set on staying in Florida simply for some scholarships isn't the best of ideas.. You could be missing out on some great opportunities by staying in state.. I live in St.Louis, but I've decided the best thing for me is to start out at Miami-Dade College, and transfer to Univ of Alaska @ Anchorage to finish up with a Bachelor's Degree, all for ATC, and Dispatching...


25 JFKspotter : ERAU has had a CRJ sim for a few years now, and we have an entire course just for that. Also over the summer we received 16 glass-cockpit (Garmin 100
26 Doug_Or : I went to a university flight school after starting my flying part 61. I interned at a major with students from other univerities. After gaduating I i
27 Post contains images N243NW : Hi there, I am also a student at SLU (freshman), majoring in aerospace engineering and aviation science (the flight program). Though aerospace is tech
28 Post contains images TPAflyer : Ive been moving all around the world my whole life, I just wanna stay close to "home" for once, plus I cant stand the cold!
29 DeltaGator : Are they a state school or private? If private it won't matter if you are a resident or not. If they are a state school then you'll get the good brea
30 Post contains images Learpilot : My diploma says Embry-Riddle. I paid way too much for my diploma. A commercial / instrument / multi-engine license can be had for much cheaper pretty
31 Lehpron : Watch it bud, if you cannot be critical about something you like then be quiet. Even I know I'm just paying for the name.
32 N766UA : It's a damn good thing they have lower minimums for college pilots, otherwise they'd never make the cut! Good luck fighting for that airplane with th
33 Post contains images FlyingTexan : Spot on, UAL. I earned my PPL when I was 18. I wanted to fly for a living. I was going to have Uncle Sam and the fine folks of the United States Mili
34 TPAflyer : Ya thanks all for the input! Its all been helpful
35 Post contains images XFSUgimpLB41X : I would not suggest ERAU. Way overpriced. I did it all part 61 on the side while I got my regular 4 year degree from FSU. How did it work out? Look at
36 Post contains images FLY2HMO : Oh believe me, I am very critical of Riddle. I just concentrate on looking at it from the good side rather than from the bad side. Honestly though, t
37 Lehpron : Very true. While I cannot blame this school as a whole because of one facalty member, there is a mindset of "do what works" here. I didn't enter the
38 Fumanchewd : Embry Riddle is a great school that charges too much for what they give. Any state university with an aviation program will be cheaper and just as goo
39 LOT767-300ER : Or you can be like me and get an Aviation Business degree and not fly at ERAU and not get raped. Cheaper for me here than to go to Loyola or Northwest
40 Post contains images KFLLCFII : Is that part of your company's background check procedure for new recruits? A myspace search?
41 Flyingbronco05 : And what do you pay per hour for the cessnas and sim, plus instructor? I doubt it's less than $120/hr for your BRAND new Garmins...
42 Post contains images JCS17 : If you want your whole college life to be centered around flying and planes, and don't mind paying up the butt for it, ERAU would probably be your bes
43 Futurecaptain : Minimum to APPLY is lowered. If you think you will get that job going up against people with their CFI/CFII/MEI who have 1000+ TT and hundreds of mul
44 Post contains links Fumanchewd : You would be very suprised how many companies do just that. If someone has a big fat cannibas leaf on their page, they will not get hired. http://www
45 Post contains images Tom in NO : .....or drive five miles east to the beach Tom at MSY
46 JFKspotter : You're right- it's around $140/hr, dual. Just the price of technology, I guess...
47 Mir : I don't know about Florida, but it's certainly not easy to get actual instrument time in North Dakota. Not that there aren't plenty of clouds, but th
48 PanAm330 : I'm curious to know about the program at Arizona State University. Is it widely acclaimed, and will I get to fly often? Any insight to this would be n
49 LOT767-300ER : As much as I knock on Florida, 100x better to be stuck here than ND. Yes, Ive been to ND many times (Hell even got photos of Fargo/Bismarck on a.net!
50 Halcyon : I go there now, and what they "give" is not too special. They have a few good teachers, but I'm very disappointed. My physics teacher does not know w
51 LOT767-300ER : Why would you fly at ERAU? Like I said I go here also (Infact im sitting right now at the CircuitCity on ISB at work) and wondering why you want to g
52 Halcyon : Because my scholarships cover it for a full year, and that is the ONLY reason. Decided to try it, I can ride this year out. Where should I go? Rocky
53 Futurecaptain : WOW! Here at Spartan I think it's expensive, but not that expensive. Simulator (as needed) - $120/hr C-152. (Pvt and Comm) - $140/hr C-172 (Inst / as
54 Post contains images Halcyon : Frick it. I'm being raped. I could be with a Baron 58 at a nice private school too, and I'm down here. ERAU really puts the screws to you. I am fairl
55 LOT767-300ER : Allright 2 points. 1. ERAU does not have old planes, Son Ive seen FBOs that use Antonov An-2s 2. Daytona Beach is not a nice city, it sucks....unless
56 Futurecaptain : Thats funny. Everyone here thinks we are getting screwed cause a local FBO will rent us planes for about $70-$100 less than the school charges. (incl
57 Post contains images Halcyon : Well, compared to that...however, everyone here, even the instructors, accept that the red-headed step-child that is ERAU-PRC has the bangers. But ye
58 Halcyon : We don't have grass here.
59 JFKspotter : The $142 for the C172s is a dual rate, so that includes your instructor. The plane is $92/hr., add $50 for the instructor and there's your $142. Today
60 Post contains images Halcyon : Yes, that is why I need advice on the other college silly, please do help. Sorry to bash the school, but it is probably a taaaaaaaaaaaddddddd overpri
61 LOT767-300ER : I dont know, I went to Loyola U. in Chicago...my hometown city, great campus, great looking chicks etc etc...basically everything that ERAU does not
62 Ilikeyyc : That, ladies and gentlemen, is the reason I will always recommend ERAU, even though I have mixed feelings about the school. There are very few partie
64 Newark777 : So basically you give up the whole college experience for some contacts? I guess if you want it that bad.... Harry
65 LOT767-300ER : What the hell is a "college experience" mean anyways. Its something different for everyone. The idea of my friends from high school and their college
66 Post contains images Ilikeyyc : The "whole college experience" should be a damn good education and four years of hard work to earn that bachelors degree. You don't have to go to col
67 Post contains images Halcyon : I do not think that is a problem for me. Basically it offers two good things: ground school contacts If the good outweighs the bad, then go there. If
68 Slider : I agree. I have buddies that just bash it, even as alumni, and it gets old. Anytime school doesn't meet your expectations, it's fodder for whining. W
69 Newark777 : Who said it's either or? I get the parties every weekend, the drinking, and the girls, and I still get a mechanical engineering degree and a business
70 Lowrider : CRJ sims and new airplanes with nice avionics are fun, but do nothing to enhance your basic piloting skills, which is the bulk of what you should be l
71 Post contains images JCS17 : Wow! I can meet a kid whose dad owns Cielos del Peru Cargo at ERAU? Sweet! I want to transfer! I sure wish UND had these kinds of networking opportun
72 JFKspotter : Understood. But when it's 2006 and everything out there has more screens than needles, I want to learn on the one that has screens as well. When an a
73 JFKspotter : Going to Mesa was the first mistake. When you just graduated and you need a job, it absolutely is.
74 LOT767-300ER : Who says you cant go Orlando and UCF on the weekend...more opprotunity to party than in UND Calm down there, Face it the greatest concentration of th
75 Futurecaptain : NDB's arn't going anywhere IMO. They are a simple facility and allow smaller airports to have instrument approaches. The ADF is one of the simplest i
76 Post contains images Halcyon : Always explore different options. Personally, I think that transfering in to ERAU after a time might be good, just for the look of it. However, it is
77 Lowrider : So you instruct, and work side jobs, while learning to live as cheaply as possible. How do you think so many others made it before these "bridge" pro
78 TPAflyer : So I heard somewhere that if one works hard enough to become an instructor at Riddle, that tuition is completely paid for?? How accurate is that?
79 Joness0154 : No, NDB's are being phased out as they break. GPS allows smaller airports to have instrument approaches. Expect to see your local NDB approach replac
80 JFKspotter : I'm sure it took tons of work, and I am in no way putting them down. However, if opportunities like these are presented to me at ERAU and make the en
81 LOT767-300ER : What the hell is your point about donating a 727? SIU and Lewis Univ. in IL both have donated UAL 732s...whooptie f'in do. You can go work on a donat
82 JFKspotter : Close- 29. Well, that's great, but most of us pilots want to stick with aviation related companies. Either way though, we have career fairs also, and
83 Post contains images FutureUALpilot : We have one of those at Purdue too.  Connections are not that hard to develop if you put yourself out there. In my relatively (so far) short aviatio
84 PlainSmart : That's correct. 9 undergrad or 6 grad credits free per semester.
85 Lowrider : Could not disagree more. An airline does not really care how you acquired the skills and knowledge, so long as you have it. They will send you to gro
86 Futurecaptain : It makes no sense to rely on a system controlled by the DOD. They could turn it off to civilians at any time and essentially cripple all flights. Tha
87 Mir : Truth be told, if you're thinking about being a pilot and haven't heard at least several rumblings that Mesa might not be a good place to work, you n
88 Dw9115 : I don't know what most of you are talking about. I went ERAU I was a member of a fraternity went to alot parties and there was plenty of women if you
89 Post contains images Joness0154 : We have a 732 also Worked at DPA 2 summers ago, and unless they got a new one that 727 is gone. I remember when the huge windstorm tipped it up on it
90 Post contains images Halcyon : Haha, when pigs fly.
91 LOT767-300ER : Yea, I got a pic of it here on A.net if you run a search on DPA. There was another AEagle S340 and another 727 being worked on in the summer months.
92 Joness0154 : Is that the one over by Muckenschnabel?
93 Shawn Patrick : Actually, I used to be incredibly anti-Riddle everything and I said I would never do my flight training there. But now I've changed my mind. Here is w
94 Post contains images Halcyon : God, that's the best advice I've heard so far. Wish I could start over. *sigh*
95 Dw9115 : Be very careful saying things like that I have seen a lot of kids doing just that then they get ERAU and there classes from a local school will not t
96 Halcyon : However, I do think that getting one's first license before coming is a great idea, and if you can badger them into taking credits, more power to you
97 Luisca : Florida Institute of Technology in Melbourne is a very good alternative to ERAU if you want to stay in Florida. What finally made me decide for FIT wa
98 Shawn Patrick : If you are smart about it and make sure the courses you take are acceptable, there shouldn't be much of a problem at all. With me, they were very gen
99 Dw9115 : I had a friend that went to Georgia Tech for two years and they would only take 21 credits and I know alot of kids that would take classes at DBCC in
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