Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 32 Posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2267 times:
....Is this bad?
According to his feedback profile, he is a non payer who lives in nigeria. But the winners address is listed as Sanford, FL. How can I protect my self he doesn't pay? I stated that I accept pay pal and Certified check only. If he pays by means of Check, should I wait for it to arrive before I ship? Also, if he does not pay period, what is my next step?
Yea, so this guy is a scammer, this is in my mailbox this morning:
I'm mailing in regards to your item that i bought from ebay and i
will also like to inform you that i will be sending to my pastor who
is on an envangelical mission to africa nigeria and i will pay you
via western union auction payment which is an online payment that
deliver in cash. Also i will like it ship via Global Express EMS.
Please get back to me with total cost of shipping plus item so as to
make payment asap as i want the item to get there fast.
Also include your full name and address that you want me to use for
here is the shipping address:
NeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2214 times:
Nigeria is known for it's ebay scams. Do Not Ship!!! Basically what the ebay'ers from Nigeria do is promise to send a money order and ask you to ship upon confirmation of the money order being sent by the bank. Only problem is, there really isn't any money order in the mail, or being sent by any bank, no matter what the e-mail says. It's a complete scam. I once sold an XBOX to a guy from Nigeria who said that he needed it because he actually lived in the States, but his daughter was going to a technical school in Nigeria and needed to dissect one. I just laughed and moved on, and for the record, no, the money never appeared, big suprise.
CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4761 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2201 times:
EBay or PayPal couldn't care less if you've been scammed, you need to fend for yourself. I was out about $4500USD once and PayPal was kind enough to refund about $120 (geez, thanks). Luckily my credit card company came through and refunded the difference.
I'm sorry but the sad truth is that every single bid and offer I have had on my items outside of Canada, USA, Western Europe and Australia has been an attempted scam. Just state in your auction explicitly that you will only deal with bidders in these regions.
NeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2183 times:
Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8): I'm sorry but the sad truth is that every single bid and offer I have had on my items outside of Canada, USA, Western Europe and Australia has been an attempted scam. Just state in your auction explicitly that you will only deal with bidders in these regions.
Good advice, in all my auctions I am very clear that I will only ship the the UK, Canada, the US and Australia. I won't even ship to the continental Europe, not worth the hassles.
THePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2178 times:
BE very careful.
"Nigerians" are notorious for their scamming ways on eBay. If he sends a cheque, ensure that it hasn't cleared (because most likely it wont) and never send the item.
Of course, for some miracle if he does actually pay, do send the item
David L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9294 posts, RR: 42 Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
Quoting THePRGuy (Reply 12): If he sends a cheque, ensure that it hasn't cleared
I assume you mean ensure that it has cleared. Even if it does and the money appears in your account, it can still be rescinded a few weeks later when the banks do a proper check and find out it's bogus. Don't accept any personal cheques and get your bank to verify that a certified cheque is valid.
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 32 Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2040 times:
I just read this on the ebay support page:
"The buyer insists that I ship COD, accept a third party post-dated check or box each item separately.
eBay cannot force a buyer to honor the transaction. But you can alert the rest of the eBay Community to your experience by leaving the buyer appropriate feedback. You may also either offer the item to the next bidder or you may relist it and request a credit for the Final Value Fee."
Am I screwed now and have to ship this?
Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
GoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2013 times:
Quoting Portcolumbus (Reply 5): I believe you can set feedback limits on bidders when you list if you don't want buyers with negative or zero feedback. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm not sure about zero feedback, but you can block negative feedback. You an also block individuals with recent unpaid item strikes (what eBay doles out to nonpaying bidders). Unfortunately, you can't weed everyone out. I just had someone with zero feedback buy a textbook (with buy it now) from me, never communicated for the first week, despite my email a day, until finally on day 7, she sends me an email - in Spanish. Eventually though ebay's dispute message service explained "no pay now, have wait for scholarship" or something like that in her broken English. Never did pay, gave her an unpaid item strike yesterday.
"Why you fly is your business, how you fly is ours"
Not just advice for Ebay but almost any private party transaction would find me very leary of accepting certified or cashier's checks let alone a personal check. There is just too much chance for fraud. Short of going to the buyer's bank to see the cash withdrawn I don't take checks for stuff.
We donated my wife's car because I just didn't want to deal with the hassles of selling it let alone having folks call or come by the house to see it while I am traveling.
"If you can't delight in the misery of others then you don't deserve to be a college football fan."
The buyer didn't follow your terms for the auction. The only concern I would have is them sticking a negative feedback on you. Fill out the form for the refund on the fees, you can relist the item now, in your My Ebay.
Falstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 5877 posts, RR: 28 Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1962 times:
I never send anything until the payment arrives. I don't expect anyone to ship anything to me until they get my payment. Sounds like a scam to me. seven years ago a guy claimed I bounced a check to him and he wanted me to wire him the money or he would leave me negative feedback. I checked with my bank and the check had not been deposited yet and there was plenty to cover it. I called him on it and I got my stuff. I think he was trying to double dip. Wait for me to wire money and then cash the check before I could stop payment.
Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8): was out about $4500USD once and PayPal was kind enough to refund about $120 (geez, thanks). Luckily my credit card company came through and refunded the difference.
That happened to a friend a few months ago. The same dollar amount too. He never even bid our bought anything of that dollar amount. Someone "hacked" his paypal info and bout something in China. His credit card statement showed that the wrongdoers tried to get more, but kept getting declined until it went through for $4500. Nice for his credit card company to watch out for him. Two weeks earlier he bought $200 worth of stuff from Home Depot three miles from his house and the credit card company called him and asked if everything was ok. Nothing was heard about $4500 through paypal from China.
The credit card company took care of it, but still what a pain in the butt!
Cadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 32 Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1818 times:
Well the guy went NARU last night so I relisted, within an hour a new nigerian user by the name of cindy_gump1970 also used buy it now and wants shipping to nigeria, but she said she wants to use pay pal but wants my full name, address and "secure" email. Smells like a new crock of shit. What do you think? I again said that I WILL NOT ship to Lagos Nigeria and that if she does not comply, "she" will be reported.
On that note, does anyone know how I can block these fuckers from trying to screw me over?
Doors open, right hand side, next stop is Springfield.
I would bet that anyone buying from eBay that want's it shipped to Nigeria is a scam. Just state that you only ship to Canada and America. I'll ship to Australia and the UK, but not mainland Europe or anywhere else, I don't care what the person offers. I had an offer for an item that I was selling from a guy in Paris, I just told him to screw off and read the auction, I will not ship there. Just re-list the item for the third time and make it clear, US only, or Canada too, perhaps the UK.