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Ebay User With -1 Feedback Just Won My Auction...  
User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Posted (8 years 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

....Is this bad?

According to his feedback profile, he is a non payer who lives in nigeria. But the winners address is listed as Sanford, FL. How can I protect my self he doesn't pay? I stated that I accept pay pal and Certified check only. If he pays by means of Check, should I wait for it to arrive before I ship? Also, if he does not pay period, what is my next step?

Yea, so this guy is a scammer, this is in my mailbox this morning:

I'm mailing in regards to your item that i bought from ebay and i
will also like to inform you that i will be sending to my pastor who
is on an envangelical mission to africa nigeria and i will pay you
via western union auction payment which is an online payment that
deliver in cash. Also i will like it ship via Global Express EMS.
Please get back to me with total cost of shipping plus item so as to
make payment asap as i want the item to get there fast.
Also include your full name and address that you want me to use for
the payment.
here is the shipping address:

Name:XXXXXXX
Address:73 Ibadan road
City:Ile-ife
State:Osun states
Country:Nigeria
Poster Code :234036
Regards

[Edited 2006-09-03 17:11:26]


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34 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineNirmalmakadia From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

Ship only after you receive the payment. If you dont receive the payment within your specified time in the auction, leave a negative feedback and report it to Ebay.

User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9384 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Thread starter):
he is a non payer who lives in nigeria

hey, while you're in touch with him, ask him if he happens to work at a bank and can give you some financial advice.

Quoting Cadet57 (Thread starter):
But the winners address is listed as Sanford, FL

Ted???????!!!!!!



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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2554 times:

Yeah, dont ship.

Just tell the guy that its to his verified Paypal address or bank address only.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 3):
Yeah, dont ship.

Just tell the guy that its to his verified Paypal address or bank address only.

I told him that I am accepting pay pal to a US address ONLY in my response.

Also, anyone know where I go to report the low life?



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User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/programs-investigations.html


I believe you can set feedback limits on bidders when you list if you don't want buyers with negative or zero feedback. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 4):
Also, anyone know where I go to report the low life?

If he doesn't pay up, leave negative feedback. Also report him to eBay's Fraud Dept. They'll NARU him if he gets too many negative feedbacks or complaints.

Mark


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Nigeria is known for it's ebay scams. Do Not Ship!!! Basically what the ebay'ers from Nigeria do is promise to send a money order and ask you to ship upon confirmation of the money order being sent by the bank. Only problem is, there really isn't any money order in the mail, or being sent by any bank, no matter what the e-mail says. It's a complete scam. I once sold an XBOX to a guy from Nigeria who said that he needed it because he actually lived in the States, but his daughter was going to a technical school in Nigeria and needed to dissect one. I just laughed and moved on, and for the record, no, the money never appeared, big suprise.

User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

EBay or PayPal couldn't care less if you've been scammed, you need to fend for yourself. I was out about $4500USD once and PayPal was kind enough to refund about $120 (geez, thanks). Luckily my credit card company came through and refunded the difference.

I'm sorry but the sad truth is that every single bid and offer I have had on my items outside of Canada, USA, Western Europe and Australia has been an attempted scam. Just state in your auction explicitly that you will only deal with bidders in these regions.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20671 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2496 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 6):
Also report him to eBay's Fraud Dept. They'll NARU him if he gets too many negative feedbacks or complaints.

I think you can have the Fraud squad nail him now. I've had a couple of members nuked because they didn't have a valid e-mail or phone when I tried to contact them.



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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8):
I'm sorry but the sad truth is that every single bid and offer I have had on my items outside of Canada, USA, Western Europe and Australia has been an attempted scam. Just state in your auction explicitly that you will only deal with bidders in these regions.

Good advice, in all my auctions I am very clear that I will only ship the the UK, Canada, the US and Australia. I won't even ship to the continental Europe, not worth the hassles.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2485 times:

Quoting Portcolumbus (Reply 5):

Thanks, I did that, and it said I cannot report the bastard til SEPT 10TH! WTF is up with that? So I emailed ebay and said I want my item relisted, TONIGHT and im not paying a dime.

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8):

Wow, are you serious? Pay pal covered my dad's friend when he bought a car via paypal and it never arrived. And he got over 5k back..



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User currently offlineTHePRGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2480 times:

BE very careful.
"Nigerians" are notorious for their scamming ways on eBay. If he sends a cheque, ensure that it hasn't cleared (because most likely it wont) and never send the item.
Of course, for some miracle if he does actually pay, do send the item  Smile
Thanks
PR


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

Quoting THePRGuy (Reply 12):
If he sends a cheque, ensure that it hasn't cleared

I assume you mean ensure that it has cleared. Even if it does and the money appears in your account, it can still be rescinded a few weeks later when the banks do a proper check and find out it's bogus. Don't accept any personal cheques and get your bank to verify that a certified cheque is valid.


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

I just read this on the ebay support page:

"The buyer insists that I ship COD, accept a third party post-dated check or box each item separately.

eBay cannot force a buyer to honor the transaction. But you can alert the rest of the eBay Community to your experience by leaving the buyer appropriate feedback. You may also either offer the item to the next bidder or you may relist it and request a credit for the Final Value Fee."

Am I screwed now and have to ship this?



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User currently offlineGoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2315 times:

Quoting Portcolumbus (Reply 5):
I believe you can set feedback limits on bidders when you list if you don't want buyers with negative or zero feedback. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 checkmark  I'm not sure about zero feedback, but you can block negative feedback. You an also block individuals with recent unpaid item strikes (what eBay doles out to nonpaying bidders). Unfortunately, you can't weed everyone out. I just had someone with zero feedback buy a textbook (with buy it now) from me, never communicated for the first week, despite my email a day, until finally on day 7, she sends me an email - in Spanish. Eventually though ebay's dispute message service explained "no pay now, have wait for scholarship" or something like that in her broken English. Never did pay, gave her an unpaid item strike yesterday.



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2289 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Thread starter):
I stated that I accept pay pal and Certified check only.

Not just advice for Ebay but almost any private party transaction would find me very leary of accepting certified or cashier's checks let alone a personal check. There is just too much chance for fraud. Short of going to the buyer's bank to see the cash withdrawn I don't take checks for stuff.

We donated my wife's car because I just didn't want to deal with the hassles of selling it let alone having folks call or come by the house to see it while I am traveling.



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User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 14):
Am I screwed now and have to ship this?

The buyer didn't follow your terms for the auction. The only concern I would have is them sticking a negative feedback on you. Fill out the form for the refund on the fees, you can relist the item now, in your My Ebay.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6105 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2264 times:
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I never send anything until the payment arrives. I don't expect anyone to ship anything to me until they get my payment. Sounds like a scam to me. seven years ago a guy claimed I bounced a check to him and he wanted me to wire him the money or he would leave me negative feedback. I checked with my bank and the check had not been deposited yet and there was plenty to cover it. I called him on it and I got my stuff. I think he was trying to double dip. Wait for me to wire money and then cash the check before I could stop payment.

Quoting CPDC10-30 (Reply 8):
was out about $4500USD once and PayPal was kind enough to refund about $120 (geez, thanks). Luckily my credit card company came through and refunded the difference.

That happened to a friend a few months ago. The same dollar amount too. He never even bid our bought anything of that dollar amount. Someone "hacked" his paypal info and bout something in China. His credit card statement showed that the wrongdoers tried to get more, but kept getting declined until it went through for $4500. Nice for his credit card company to watch out for him. Two weeks earlier he bought $200 worth of stuff from Home Depot three miles from his house and the credit card company called him and asked if everything was ok. Nothing was heard about $4500 through paypal from China.

The credit card company took care of it, but still what a pain in the butt!



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User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3084 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2211 times:

First you said paypal..he wants to use western union. nuff said.

IN this case I would not send anything. It sucks for legitimate people in Nigeria but to many scams are there. I would not send anyhting there. That is unless I had the cash in my hand.

GS



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

Well the guy went NARU last night so I relisted, within an hour a new nigerian user by the name of cindy_gump1970 also used buy it now and wants shipping to nigeria, but she said she wants to use pay pal but wants my full name, address and "secure" email. Smells like a new crock of shit. What do you think? I again said that I WILL NOT ship to Lagos Nigeria and that if she does not comply, "she" will be reported.

On that note, does anyone know how I can block these fuckers from trying to screw me over?



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User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

What exactly are you selling dude?

Kieron747


User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 21):
What exactly are you selling dude?

A three year old Averatec laptop.



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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 22):

A three year old Averatec laptop.

I would bet that anyone buying from eBay that want's it shipped to Nigeria is a scam. Just state that you only ship to Canada and America. I'll ship to Australia and the UK, but not mainland Europe or anywhere else, I don't care what the person offers. I had an offer for an item that I was selling from a guy in Paris, I just told him to screw off and read the auction, I will not ship there. Just re-list the item for the third time and make it clear, US only, or Canada too, perhaps the UK.


User currently offlineSenorcarnival From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 22):

A three year old Averatec laptop.

I'll give you a buck for it.  Wink


25 Legoguy : This is probally too late but.... Don't even bother trying to sell the item with a Buy it Now format as Nigerians will ALWAYS buy it before anyone dec
26 Cadet57 : In both autctions in large font and in caps it said "US SHIPPING ONLY" I dont get why these tards even bother if they know we wont ship it.... Furthe
27 Carmenlu15 : Funny... A couple of years ago I bid for an item that was listed as US or Europe shipping only (after checking with the seller whether it was OK) and
28 Legoguy : Again I have had that problem... only to realise that I forgot that i had ticked 'ship worldwide' button whilst entering the postage and packaging de
29 Cadet57 : Nope, I made sure of that the first time
30 Mham001 : NO! Just because the bank says its a good certified check is absolutely NO GUARANTEE that it is good. They will backcharge you later when they find o
31 United757 : in your seller preferences there is an option that you can select that makes it so no one with a feedback rating of either -1 or 0 and -1 can bid on y
32 Dazed767 : I got screwed out of $1000 about 3 years ago on that western union scam crap. All the emails were fake, all seemed real (wasn't to nigeria, was in the
33 ZOTAN : Doesn't the guy in Nigeria have to pay some sort of shipping or import tax? Just tell the post office that your sending about 10,000 dollars in goods.
34 Boston92 : This has happened to me before. Claims he would pay 500 bucks for a playstaion. He sent a phony western union and called up western union and they con
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