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AFA Blasts CBS Airing Of 9/11 Movie For Profanity  
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2439 times:

The American Family Association wants you to take action to bar CBS from airing a movie on the events of September 11, 2001.

CBS is scheduled to broadcast 9/11 unedited on September 10, 2006. The AFA has condemned the picture as "profanity-laden", and, complaining that CBS was disregarding rules regulating the use of unacceptable language, urged that readers e-mail the FCC, CBS, and CBS affiliates to stop the movie from airing.

Ordinarily, I would not be opposed to the position that certain kinds of profanity should be barred from television. However, because of the importance of the events of September 11, I think that an exception should be made in this case. I believe that CBS will air the appropriate warnings to advise viewers concerning explicit language they will hear.

Please see:

http://www.afa.net/Petitions/IssueDetail.asp?id=209

[Edited 2006-09-04 22:24:29]

35 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2432 times:

What time of the day is the airing supposed to be happening at?

If its after 9pm, I think the AFA can go jump, if its planned for smack bang in the middle of kids programmes, then they may have a point.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21867 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

I would have thought it would be the large explosions and masses of innocent deaths that would be unsuitable for family viewing. Evidently profanity is more of a problem.  Yeah sure

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

AFA are bigotted, narrow-minded God-fascists - ignore them completely and utterly at all times.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2419 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 1):
What time of the day is the airing supposed to be happening at?

8 p.m.

I just found the official CBS Webpage concerning this movie:

http://www.cbs.com/specials/911/


User currently offlineTransWorldSTL From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 568 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 1):
What time of the day is the airing supposed to be happening at?

It's happening during Prime Time, so around 7/8pm I would guess..


They're making it seem like CBS is forcing everyone in America to watch this without choice... If you don't want to hear these HORRIBLE and VULGAR words, heres an idea.. Change the channel..  Yeah sure


User currently offlineDuff44 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 3):
AFA are bigotted, narrow-minded God-fascists - ignore them completely and utterly at all times.

AFA stands for Absolutist Fascist A**holes...

You don't represent me. Let my family make decisions for itself.



I'll rassle ya for a bowl of bacon!
User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
AFA Blasts CBS Airing Of 9/11 Movie For Profanity

The last time I checked, the events of Sept. 11 weren't exactly family-friendly to begin with.  irked 



Crye me a river
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2393 times:

Quoting TransWorldSTL (Reply 5):
They're making it seem like CBS is forcing everyone in America to watch this without choice... If you don't want to hear these HORRIBLE and VULGAR words, heres an idea.. Change the channel..   sarcastic  

The subject matter of death and destruction, as someone else noted, is so "offensive" in itself that swear words pale in comparison, so I think that the AFA's initiative is misplaced. If anything, I would like America to be exposed to the vulgarities it will hear as a means of pointing out and remembering the vulgarity and horrors of death and injury that occurred on September 11, 2001.

No amount of swear words compare to the depravity to which Americans were subject on that horrendous day.

The events of September 11, 2001 tested Americans to the extreme. In this case, would it really be so horrific or inappropriate for viewers to be exposed to the reality of how men and women were forced to react to those events?

I think we should be reasonable in this respect.

[Edited 2006-09-04 22:32:45]

User currently offlineJ_Hallgren From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

I just looked at the short video clip on that site:
http://www.cbs.com/specials/911/video.php
Gave me a quick chill/goosebumps by the end  Sad



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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

I will also note that the movie 9/11 has aired once before, although I don't know if, during that airing, the "bad words" were bleeped out.

[Edited 2006-09-04 22:35:45]

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21867 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 8):
would it really be so horrific or inappropriate for viewers to be exposed to the reality of how men and women were forced to react to those events?

Of course not. Do you really think that people thought better about saying "holy sh*t" when they saw a plane fly into the WTC? Or that the people on UA93 decided not to say "let's get those f*ckers" because it would be "family-unfriendly"?

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 6):
AFA stands for Absolutist Fascist A**holes...

You don't represent me. Let my family make decisions for itself.

 checkmark 

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3086 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

The AFA does not represent me. Nor do they represent a majority of American views. They are a bunch of pansy ass whimps who missed out on having a real life. They are the guys who were virgins at 25. They are the girls who were President in student council. They are the whimps who were force fed Barney and friends at 13 years old by their parents. These people need to have their asses kicked around and get in touch with the real world. A little "bad" word here and there never killed anyone, let alone turn them bad. Brainwashing idiots!

Grow up AFA


Chris



Marine Corps Aviation, The Last To Let You Down!
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 11):
Of course not. Do you really think that people thought better about saying "holy sh*t" when they saw a plane fly into the WTC? Or that the people on UA93 decided not to say "let's get those f*ckers" because it would be "family-unfriendly"?

Agreed. We should not censor reality when reality is so compelling and so relevant to why we, as a nation, do what we do.

In this respect, I believe that the following paraphrase of what someone else has famously said is important to remember: If the airwaves are made suitable for children, then in some sense, it is fit only for children.

None of us here are children.

And when it comes to matters of great historical import, it would be unwise to limit our depiction of reality only to that appropriate for the ages of those who may still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, and the "fact" that when some people say things, a funny electronic tone comes out of their mouths instead of the emotional utterances of a horrifed psyche.

[Edited 2006-09-04 23:02:32]

User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4130 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

I bet you those AFA members' kids hear more than enough profanity at school. Bunch of hypocrites.


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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2316 times:

This has "how to collect more donations" written all over it.


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User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 7):
The last time I checked, the events of Sept. 11 weren't exactly family-friendly to begin with.

Exactly. If they think they can turn the events of 9/11 into a family show on par with "The Wizard of Oz", they are sadly mistaken. Personally, if I were looking out of a window of an airplane, seeing buildings and realizing that I'm about to die, "Oh, gosh-darn it" is not exactly the vocabulary I would use.


User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3086 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

Quoting Mdsh00 (Reply 14):
I bet you those AFA members' kids hear more than enough profanity at school. Bunch of hypocrites.

 no  these nutbars are probably homeschooled to keep them away from being corrupted by the evils of society... wink 

GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineTedTAce From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
The American Family Association

Attention whores

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 12):
They are a bunch of pansy ass whimps who missed out on having a real life. They are the guys who were virgins at 25.

Most of them still are if you think about it.. even if they reproduced it was a 'sterile' mating session for reproduction pourposes only.
Technically that might count, but it would be like counting Kirkie and his first er em... yeah...

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
take action to bar CBS from airing

Can I sit on my hands fast enough?

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
I think that an exception should be made in this case.

There is hope for you  Wink

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 1):

If its after 9pm, I think the AFA can go jump

There should be a broadcast channel in every single market in the US brooadcasting this film 24/7/365 TOTALLY un-edited.

Quoting Usnseallt82 (Reply 7):

The last time I checked, the events of Sept. 11 weren't exactly family-friendly to begin with. irked



Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 8):
If anything, I would like America to be exposed to the vulgarities it will hear as a means of pointing out and remembering the vulgarity and horrors of death and injury that occurred on September 11, 2001.

While we might all go round and round about all the political BS before and after, the only people who saw that day as good; were scumbags.

Quoting J_Hallgren (Reply 9):
http://www.cbs.com/specials/911/video.php

This video has aired before un-edited. It should NEVER be aired un-edited. Anyone who thinks this video should be edited can join my American flag in the fire pot.


User currently offlineIlikeyyc From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1373 posts, RR: 20
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
The AFA has condemned the picture as "profanity-laden", and, complaining that CBS was disregarding rules regulating the use of unacceptable language, urged that readers e-mail the FCC, CBS, and CBS affiliates to stop the movie from airing.

There are more important things in this world to worry about than a few f*%$ing swear words.

Although, in some markets, the AFA may get their wish. There are quite a few CBS affiliates who won't run this movie or are apprehensive about airing this movie because of possible fines from the FCC for the use of profanities. The article I read also said that CBS refuses to bleep out those words.



Fighting Absurdity with Absurdity!
User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2242 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 2):
I would have thought it would be the large explosions and masses of innocent deaths that would be unsuitable for family viewing. Evidently profanity is more of a problem.

OMG, didn't you know, profanity is more evil then Osama!

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 6):
AFA stands for Absolutist Fascist A**holes

I was thinking Absolute F***ing A**holes, but whatever

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 12):
They are a bunch of pansy ass whimps who missed out on having a real life.

 checkmark 



Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineCF188A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

This is my personal opinion. The program should be broad casted during anytime of the day for a simple belief. We all should indeed, for the living and the dead, bear witness to that horrible day. We should see it the best as possible from the eyes of those who were there. Our lives were forever changed due to those tragic attacks, and many commonwealth countries had their share of the casualties. I of course, did not loose anyone on that tragic day, so perhaps it is easier said than done. If this is a matter of children watching it... well then that is simply their problem.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

If the AFA keeps up with its over-persnickety approach to television, I think that more and more people are going to ignore it.

It's the same thing with the "food cops". One day we learn that this food is good for you, but then the next day, some other public health promotion outfit says that it isn't. So which is it?

The AFA may soon be perceived as crying "wolf" once too often.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21867 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2215 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 22):
If the AFA keeps up with its over-persnickety approach to television, I think that more and more people are going to ignore it.

It's the same thing with the "food cops". One day we learn that this food is good for you, but then the next day, some other public health promotion outfit says that it isn't. So which is it?

The AFA may soon be perceived as crying "wolf" once too often.

Soon? Heck, most sane people already know them for what they really are - parents who want the government to do the job that they themselves should be doing - watching over their kids.

Oh, did I say "heck"? I meant "hell".  devil 

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

Maybe the fact that it is being shown the night before the 5th anniversary is the problem?



Lee



Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own
25 Mir : It's not. The title of the petition is "CBS To Air Profanity-Laden Program", which makes it pretty clear that the profanity is the problem. I'd have
26 Texan : It is an attempt for more censorship, which I am against. That's why we have a remote control and brains: if we don't like it we can change the statio
27 MDorBust : This is the special muppets musical version.
28 Post contains images JakeOrion : A bit off-topic, but wasn't Schindler's List aired uncensored? From what I gathered, it recieved a positive response regardless. Does it really matter
29 LTBEWR : It's too bad President Bush doesn't tell these AFA typed to get lost about this trivial action. To include the profanity is part of the real story tha
30 Kmh1956 : You took the words right out of my mouth. If you're trying to create the reality of what happened that day, then CBS and the AFA must realize that sa
31 AeroWesty : The seemingly unending sound of bodies coming to a rest after a fall was much more disturbing than any use of profanity when I first watched the film
32 CF188A : SO guys... i sit being shown or not ... and on what channel... because I want to see it .....
33 Falcon84 : Let me ask AFA something: how many times that day do they think George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, members of Congress, those rescuing or those trapped, cur
34 Planecrazy2 : The film was already aired on CBS March 10, 2002. What a bunch of idiots. Great film, it is out on DVD also.
35 DLKAPA : Dear AFA: Shut the hell up. Respectfully yours, -The Real World
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