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11-year-old Girl Sexually Assaulted By 20 Boys  
User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

I wonder how much people can be sick.

From ABC News:
On Monday, an 11-year-old girl was allegedly sexually assaulted by as many as 20 boys while she was reportedly coached by a 16-year-old girl she was romantically interested in.

If that sounds confusing, it is. And there's more. The 16-year-old girl's 40-year-old uncle admitted he also had sex with the 11-year-old. He has told police that his niece was coaching the girl, though she has denied it.


I'm against death penalty, but in these cases I admit that I would like to beat these useless people to death  Angry

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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

Sentence them, put them in prison, be done with it for the coming years.

My heartfelt condolences to the victim.

[Edited 2006-09-09 13:11:43]


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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3661 times:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=494052

Poor girl, apparently she had been molested before. And it seems that she was HIV infected. Would be poetic justice if they all caught it.


User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3661 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 1):
Sentence them, put them in prison, be done with it for the coming years.

Nah, I think a public stoning would be just punishment.


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

Quoting Itsjustme (Reply 3):
Nah, I think a public stoning would be just punishment.

That's just as barbaric as the crime.



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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 4):

That's just as barbaric as the crime.

Stoning a pedophile is in no way as barbaric as molesting an 11 year old girl togeather with 20 other people (at least when it comes to the 40 year old guy). Do you really think that?

[Edited 2006-09-09 13:21:16]

User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3609 times:

Better idea, make all of the adults into unichs or capons, then put into jail for the rest of their sorry lives. Let the other prisioners give them their rough justice they tend to do to sex offenders of children.
Of course, this poor girl is a very damaged person, apparently treated worse than an animal all of her life. That she has HIV is even a greater tragedy. What makes me angry with such stories as this is that one has to wonder how many young men are learning to lead lives totally without any morality including as to sex as here to have sex with a child (shudder).


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

Quoting Agill (Reply 5):
Do you really think that?

Yes, I think public stoning of anyone, regardless of the crime, is barbaric. The way I see it, justice exists not to enable revenge, but to deter and to keep the population safe from criminals.

My regard for any and all human life is too high for me to advocate the death penalty, let alone public stonings. I'd expand on this, but I'm not in the mood for yet another flame war.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 6):
unichs

I believe the word you're looking for is "eunuchs". Nice extremist Sharia reference, by the way.

[Edited 2006-09-09 13:41:33]


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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3597 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 7):

Yes, I think public stoning of anyone, regardless of the crime, is barbaric.

I was questioning your use of "AS barbaric". To me it's a big difference in barbaricness, even though stoning isn't nice.


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3584 times:

Quoting Agill (Reply 8):
I was questioning your use of "AS barbaric".

Well, I reconfirm what I said - including the "as ... as" construction. Both the crime committed and public stonings are in an area where I no longer weigh the "barbaricnesses" of things against each other, since both are no things that any human being matching my idea of being civilised would do.

So yes, both are far enough out there to disgust me equally. Every time I read about an atrocious crime such as the one we're talking about here, I remember that a foaming-at-the-mouth approach as in "Stone them to death!" gets no one anywhere. The girl needs to be taken care of, the criminals must be punished and society - other young girls in particular - must be protected from them.



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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3559 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 7):
The way I see it, justice exists not to enable revenge, but to deter and to keep the population safe from criminals.

Yeah, that's why my friend was arrested and in jail for 2 days for an expired out of state license plate...to protect our society.

(The jail time was for failure to pay the fine and show up in court.)


User currently offlineTNNH From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3559 times:

Sounds like a poor black neighborhood. Interesting because the African American community has a far smaller population of child molestors and sexual predators than the caucasian or hispanic ones.

User currently offlinePawsleykat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

Quoting Rammstein (Thread starter):
11-year-old Girl Sexually Assaulted By 20 Boys

That is Just plain, fucking sick. People like that need the death penalty.

JG



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 10):
to protect our society.

In that case I guess it was

Quoting Aloges (Reply 7):
to deter

via punishment. I shouldn't think your friend is going to fail to show up in court again.



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3458 times:

Quoting TNNH (Reply 11):
Sounds like a poor black neighborhood. Interesting because the African American community has a far smaller population of child molestors and sexual predators than the caucasian or hispanic ones.

We have enough problems as it is already, we don't child molesters too. But no, very interesting thought indeed.

I was reading that article yesterday, how awful. That girl is really scared for life, added to the fact she got HIV from her mother. I mean what a life. Really awful.



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User currently offlineLijnden From Philippines, joined Apr 2003, 564 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3416 times:
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Child molesters should be hanged in the public. I don't care if it politically incorrect to do this or not. Harming any child this way is so very wrong and there is no excuse for it. For all the saloon-socialists out there 'protecting' and trying to 'change' the lifestyle of the child molesters I have one thing to say; you are part of the problem.


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User currently offlineYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

That's just fucked. You wonder how desperate these peopole are who are willing to risk it all.




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User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3380 times:

Throw them in jail and lock away the key. Throw them in the electric chair for all I care!!

User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3010 posts, RR: 27
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

I wish we had cruel punishment in this country. Chopping all their dicks off would be quite appropriate for something like this! Then you can throw them in jail...
Poor girl.

Aeroflot777


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 18):
I wish we had cruel punishment in this country.

You would've loved it in Afghanistan, early 2001 - where cruel punishment was the norm.



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User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

Quote:
The 11-year-old told police she then went down to the basement where there were about 15 other boys and she "began to choose who she wanted to perform oral sex on," the records reveal.

That alone right there says something. The fact that that girl was ROMANTICLY interested in a 16 year old and knows how to preform oral sex, let alone what it is, is really making me wonder...



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User currently offlineFlyUSCG From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 656 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3287 times:

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 20):
That alone right there says something. The fact that that girl was ROMANTICLY interested in a 16 year old and knows how to preform oral sex, let alone what it is, is really making me wonder...


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Quote:
"We're in the middle of the investigation, and there's a lot more to the story."

You guys need to read the whole article before commenting. Those two quotes from the article alone would suggest she wasnt assualted. Raped, in basic definition, yes, but not necessarily assaulted. And NO WHERE In the article does it say that it she was assaulted/raped etc. "Alleged" is used 4 times and all when talking about the "alleged" crime.



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User currently offlineAgill From Sweden, joined Feb 2004, 1011 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3280 times:

FlyUSCG: I really don't feel the need to read anything more to make up my mind. She was 11 years old for crying out loud. When an 11 year old gets into a situation where shes having sex with 20 guys to me it's pretty clearcut. Nomatter if she was interested and probably wanted to impress that 16 year old. Shes a child.

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

Got to love a 40 year old that joins in a under 17 gang bang. What a scene that had to be. He won't last too long in jail.

User currently offlineItsjustme From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2768 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 7):
The way I see it, justice exists not to enable revenge, but to deter and to keep the population safe from criminals.

And you don't think a public stoning of these sick fucks would likely deter like incidents?


25 RichardPrice : Has the death sentence detered murder?
26 Itsjustme : Absolutely. The individual being put to death will never commit another murder, will he?
27 RichardPrice : So why not just lock him up for ever, if thats the required end result?
28 Aloges : No, not at all. If you "gang-bang" an 11yo, you've got a problem. A huge mental problem, and the last thing you're going to be thinking of while you'
29 Itsjustme : Sure, so they can continue to live on someone else's dime? No thanks. 'Course the rebuttal, and, unfortunately an accurate one at this point in time,
30 Aloges : Good thing you aren't. Your disregard for human life is appalling. What about evidence that's found later than 30 days after the trial? What about th
31 Aeroflot777 : Don't get me wrong. Only if it was used in situations like this. Then I think it's very much needed. Aeroflot777
32 Aloges : It is never needed. The victim won't be profiting from it, society won't be profiting from "chopping off" someone's genitals, and it will make at lea
33 Aeroflot777 : Your right, the victim will NOT be profiting from it, and that's the point. He should be punished for committing a crime like that. And society won't
34 Post contains links Aloges : definitely It doesn't have that much to do with the case at hand, but here's an old thread on "cruel punishment" that will send shivers down your spi
35 Itsjustme : I don't think the thread starter intended this to be a debate over the death penalty. So, all I will say is for someone to be convicted of a crime, t
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