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User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

I was having a conversation the other day and for some reason, the topic turned to sports.

Okay, I'll admit, it was about Tiger Woods. I was saying how I thought that he'd really hit a bad streak recently and had just rebounded.

The question then became, who was or is the greatest sportsman or sportswoman (??) in history?

In addition to Tiger Woods, here are some candidates, in no particular order:

Pele, the soccer phenom;
Babe Ruth, the American baseball legend;
Willy Mays, ditto;
Muhammad Ali, world boxing champion;
Joe Montana, NFL superstar;
Steve Young, ditto;
David Beckham, the contemporary soccer (world football) star;
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, basketball superstar; and,
Bobby Hull, hockey legend.

The above is not a representative sampling and are basically just a number of people that have occurred to me.

I'm not a sports nut, so forgive me if I've forgotten someone obvious.

Thanks in advance for your cool answers.

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User currently offlineBushpilot From South Africa, joined Jul 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

Its a tough job to pick one of so many great athletes and the variances of thier talents due to the different demands on thier sports. Ill add a few comments just for debate purposes.

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
Bobby Hull, hockey legend.

For hockey, I would put Gordy Howe there instead of Hull, as much as I like Hull, Howe is Mr. Hockey, Gretzky put up bigger numbers, but Howe was better as an all around player. Gordy hatrick is a goal, assist and a fight.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

Great response. And, I can't believe I forgot to put Gretzky up there.

[Edited 2006-09-13 02:25:44]

User currently offlineGreasespot From Canada, joined Apr 2004, 3076 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2460 times:

Dick Hoyt.

http://www.teamhoyt.com/

GS



Sometimes all you can do is look them in the eye and ask " how much did your mom drink when she was pregnant with you?"
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2449 times:

This is a subject of great debate. It all depends on how you view it. Are they great because they achieved so much, be it in sometimes controversial fashion or is it because they were really fair people on the pitch so to speak?

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 2448 times:

One definition might be "larger than life". Muhammad Ali certainly was that, and more.

He grew to be a celebrity far exceeding even his prowess in the sport, actually.


User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3049 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2436 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
Muhammad Ali, world boxing champion;

Joe Montana, NFL superstar;



Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
Pele, the soccer phenom;

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Nascar-
Richard Petty-got us interested
Dale Earnhardt-exploited it

NBA
Magic Johnson VS Larry Bird(got us started)
Michael Jordan(exploited it)

NHRA
Kenny Bernstein along with others.BTW-Bernstein is coming back to funny car.
John Force is exploited it.



Tuesday's Off! Do not disturb.
User currently offlineSpacemanspiff From Maldives, joined Jun 2006, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

FOOTBALL
* Diego Maradona

TENNIS
* Roger Federer
* Steffi Graf

Formula 1
* Kimi Raikonnen (he will make it!)

GOLF
* Tiger Woods

NBA
* Michael Jordan



i am a weirdo from outer space
User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3049 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

Quoting Spacemanspiff (Reply 7):
Formula 1
* Kimi Raikonnen (he will make

Mario Andretti gets my vote in FI.
Andretti has to be credited in giving Formula 1
exposure in the US.


http://www.formula1.com/archive/halloffame/driver/242.html



Tuesday's Off! Do not disturb.
User currently offlineBravo45 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2165 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2413 times:

If to name one:

Jahangir Khan (Squash)
Among other achievements like the 10 British Open titles, the guy was unbeaten for five and a half straight years accumulating 555 victories without being defeated.


User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5520 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

Sir Donald Bradman the greatest cricketer of his time.

User currently offlineCedars747 From Norway, joined Dec 2005, 2719 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

-Juan Manuel Fangio:Formula one
-Carlos Monzon : Box
-Diego Maradona :Football
Alex!!!



Tengo una pasion para la aviacion !لدي شغف للطيران !I have a passion for aviation !
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

That's two for Maradona, by my count. What makes him better than Pele, I wonder?  Smile

User currently offline9VSRH From Australia, joined Apr 2005, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 10):
Sir Donald Bradman the greatest cricketer of his time.

well he has the best batting average of all time! 99.94 im im not mistake  Smile


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2378 times:

Quoting 9VSRH (Reply 13):
Quoting VHVXB (Reply 10):
Sir Donald Bradman the greatest cricketer of his time.

well he has the best batting average of all time! 99.94 im im not mistake

And more to the point, the next highest average is about 60. Comparing people across different sports is impossible, but when you have someone who is statistically half as good again as the next best person, over the period of 140 years of playing the game internationally, it's a truly phenomenal record.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5520 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 14):
And more to the point, the next highest average is about 60. Comparing people across different sports is impossible,

The next person who is after him I think is South African Barry Richards or Graeme Pollock not sure which one.

Quoting Banco (Reply 14):
over the period of 140 years of playing the game internationally, it's a truly phenomenal record

Which i don't think can be ever achieved again.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Bradman

Another good cricket player which should get a mention is Garfield Sobers. One of the best All rounders ever to player cricket
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Sobers


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 41
Reply 16, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

Best sportsman living on earth


Biggest football player ever



A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5520 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 16):
Best sportsman living on earth

Not yet but well on his way


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 41
Reply 18, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 17):
Not yet but well on his way

who would that be according to you?



A man without the knowledge of his past history,culture and origins is like a tree without roots
User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5520 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 18):
who would that be according to you?

I'm not saying that he is crap but he will be the best tennis player. You have Michael Schumacher who has achieved a lot as well as Tiger Woods. Federer is well on his way in becoming the best tennis player ever.


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

Cricket is an interesting sport, in that it attracts such a devoted following.

I must say that it must be to the British what baseball is to Americans; the parallels are obvious.


User currently offlineIamcanadian From Canada, joined May 2001, 734 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

Any votes for Lance Armstrong here?


Shut up and calculate.
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

Quoting Iamcanadian (Reply 21):
Any votes for Lance Armstrong here?

Ironically, I was just reading an article about how there is new suspicion about alleged involvement in doping pointing at Armstrong; I have no clue whether this suspicion is really justified. I'll try to find a link to the article and edit this message accordingly.

[EDIT:]

Here is a link to a BBC Sport article stating that Armstrong has vigorously denied the new alleged insinuation:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/cycling/5341182.stm

[Edited 2006-09-13 15:48:37]

User currently offlinePeterpuck From Canada, joined Jun 2004, 318 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

This is off track I know, but does anyone else wonder how many people there are out there like Moe Norman. With amazing God given talents but other weaknesses that hold them back. You haven't heard of him so here is a link.

http://golf.about.com/b/a/110352.htm


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (7 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 20):
Cricket is an interesting sport, in that it attracts such a devoted following.

I must say that it must be to the British what baseball is to Americans; the parallels are obvious.

Not exactly. Cricket is a much more international sport than baseball, in that 10 "nations" (The West Indies play as one unified team) play it at the very highest level, with many, many more at that level below that is comparable with baseball outside the US and Canada. As popular as cricket might be in England, it is nowhere near the feverish near-religion that it is in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, where virtually the entire populations are utter devotees. Barfbag once called cricket an Indian game accidentally invented by the English, and that's pretty near the mark.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
25 AerospaceFan : Well, still and all, baseball is very popular in Japan and Cuba. Now, those are two countries where the histories and traditions are otherwise quite
26 Banco : Didn't say it wasn't. But it doesn't even begin to compare to the fanaticism for cricket in the Asian countries mentioned above (not forgetting all t
27 Post contains images AerospaceFan : India, more interested in the sport than Britain? (Jaw drops) Why, that's just not cricket, is it, man?
28 Banco : Infinitely more. Same is true of Pakistan, Bangladesh (even though they're not very good at the moment) and Sri Lanka. It's probably also true of Aus
29 Post contains images AerospaceFan : Yeah, well... just wait 'til they discover basketball.
30 Lutenist : A Gordy Howe hatrick is actually 1) score a goal, 2) beat someone up, and 3) get thrown out of the game.
31 AGM100 : I rode my bike 8 miles last night soooo... Lance Armstrong gets my vote all the way. The way I look at it is even if he was juiced out of his brain (H
32 Iamcanadian : Was that supposed to be sarcastic? Because just so you know Bushpilot had it right...
33 Post contains images IFEMaster : Franz Beckenbauer
34 Lutenist : My source was Don Wittman who described it as such during a Jets game. The person who scored the hat trick was Tie Domi. But a quick search of the We
35 Jean Leloup : No; I seriously doubt he's clean. But that does bring up another: Cycling: Eddy Mercx
36 Post contains images BristolFlyer : No way - he was good but not that good. Best sporstsman/PR machine maybe. Sir Steve Redgrave gets my vote. 5 golds at 5 consecutive Olympics.
37 VHVXB : hmmm there is a better chance of getting Indians involved in Basketball then baseball
38 AGM100 : Any US cyclist from now on that wins the TDF will be dirty. He won 5 times.... Are you saying that he had the perfect cocktail of steroids that made
39 RootsAir : oh ok like that I mean he is the best ACTUAL sportsman but in history, there is still Pete Sampras who was an amazing player as well as Bjorn Borg
40 VHVXB : If you say it like then I agree
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