Xjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2490 posts, RR: 48 Posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3555 times:
Good morning all...
There are various non-committial threads about September 11. Mods do what you want with this thread, but I believe that this day should stay on the front page of this civil aviation portion of this website.
What I would like to do is hear comments, thoughts, what you were doing that morning/afternoon/evening, just to remember those fallen. For those who want to bash this thread or the US in general, please do it in non-aviation. I kinda want to make this a memorial thread for this year, being the 5 year anniversary.
I'd like to start off by remembering the pilots. I am a general aviation pilot, nowhere near the stature of the gentlemen and ladies piloting the big metal. However, its kind of a brother/sister-hood that we all share.
Again, for those on the ground in NYC. Thank you for risking your life, running into those burning buildings, trying to save the lives of those people. Thank you.
I was only a kid, still in high school. I remember watching the second plane fly into the building, sitting in my US government class. I was changed forever, and those who saved lives and those who died in the process....here is to you.
United767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 356 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3535 times:
Well said Xjramper, It is hard to beleive it has been 5 years already. At the time i was working for UA on the ramp at ORD (im at DCA now). I remember the night before. All of us in the break room having fun, laughing, watching t.v., listening to music. All was right with the world. The night before 9/11, well 5 years ago tonight, I went out to our hangar with a a freind from the ramp and his mechanic freind and messed around on the R.O.N.s. Little did I (or anyone for that matter) know what was about to take place less than 8 hours later. Went home that night, woke up the next morning to learn two of our airlines planes had gone missing, along with 2 of AAs. That night at work in the same break room where we all had shared fun and laughter just 24 hours before, was dead silent, no movement on the ground, you could pretty much hear a pin drop across the airport. I went for a walk to clear my head in the C concourse to find it totaly empty as if it were 3 a.m. when it was only 7 p.m.
Well, things are back to normal, well mostly back to normal at UA. I like anyone will never forget what happened 5 years ago. I look up to and honor those that put their life on the line to protect us everyday, and was actiualy inspired to become a volunteer fire fighter with a local town out here in VA. I start training soon, and hope i can make at least some effort to honor those that were lost not just on 9/11 but those out their everyday doing what they do best.
Never forget 9/11/01
I wish UA flew mainline to MYR, that way you wouldn't be stuck in a smelly Saturn for 12 hours.
CruzinAltitude From United States of America, joined May 2004, 415 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3519 times:
I was actually in the process of posting this as a myspace bulletin when I saw this thread...
Tomorrow is 9/11 and it has been 5 years since that fateful day. To this day the thought of the events of 9/11 gives me chills. I will never forget how that day unfolded. The sights, the sounds, the conversations, the tears and the hugs. My life has been forever changed, and yet I feel selfish for even saying that. My life changed in spirit, in beliefs, basically in intangibles... Yet so many peoples lives changed in cold hard realities, the loss of a father, a daughter, a coworker, a friend. I lost innocence. I lost some hope and faith in humanity. I am lucky to have lost so little when so many lost so much. To those whom perished, to those whom loved some one that died that day, to those whom fought to save lives in the days, months, and years after... you will forever be in my heart.
UALPHLCS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3373 times:
5 Years ago I was, like my handle says working CS in PHL. Septerber 11th 2001 was in my calender as a day I was going to ORD to take my Service Director test. I saw this as a way to advance and become a supervisor.
I made it to ORD, just as they shut down the airspace. I was clueless as to what was going on, since they had shut off CNN Airport network we knew something was up since they shut that off if there is a crash of some kind. A co-worker and I were sitting at C-17 waiting for our escort and supervisors and employee were coming up from below with they news. I was all very disjointed and confused at first.
The clearest information came from our escort as she explained what little she knew having come from her office that had a TV in the waiting room.
The scariest moment was as the employee bus pulled out we where stopped by a speeding tug and a woman jumped off and onto the bus explaining she was ont he emergency management team and needed to get to CHIRR Chicago Res, right away. She sat across from me and I asked her point blank what was going on. She told me for the first time the clearest most accurate information. "Two planes hit the WTC, American for sure, one could be our...AND more are missing!" I will never forget her "more are missing." To this day it sends chills up my spine.
Needless to say, I took no test that day. We sat and watched TV, I saw the towers collapse. I tried calling my cousin who works as an SD in ORD and hoped I could stay with her since I already knew I wasn't flying home that night. I couldn't get a hold of her, so me and the woman I was with rented a car and drove back to Philadelphia. One scary moment occured on the road as we listened to the radio that night. we Were in Northern Ohio and listening to Detroit radio, they reported gas prices rocketing up to $4 a gallon. I began to think that people back East may begin to panic, and feared for what we might be driving into. My imagination ran wild.
24 hours after leaving my wife and apartment, I got home, crawled still dressed into bed next to my wife, held her, and for the first time that day I cried.
Nkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2784 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3346 times:
5 years ago I had just graduated the CSA class for CO in Secaucus, NJ (by the way, guess where I was Sept 7, 2001. Yup, a bunch of us from class went to the WTC and went to the top and watched the airplanes go by. Same kind of day to, crystal clear blue sky). I was going to be a CSA w/ CO in ACY. Two days after that, I lost my job... Yes, I worked with CO a total of 4 days.
That was the first time I ever thought about getting out of the industry, but as some of you know, this industry sucks you in, no matter how frustrating it can be. Plus, you got to love the travel benefits.
I hope we never see anything like that again, but I think it could be a possibility, maybe not with airplanes, but I don't think we are safe as the politicians tell us we are!!
Have a good day all, and take a moment of silence today and remember those who were silenced forever!!
Jhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6206 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3324 times:
I was in the computer lab at Texas A&M University during my senior year working on a homework assignment. I suddenly got an AOL Instant Message from one of my buddies in the Corps of Cadets. She said that the Pentagon was on fire. I tried to access any news website, i.e. cnn.com, msnbc.com, etc, and I couldn't access anything (the internet was obviously overloaded). Finally I got on one of the sites and saw a hole in the World Trade Center. I replied back to her, "that's not the Pentagon, that's the World Trade Center". and I wrote something like "this is bad, REALLY bad." I went back to my dorm room and flipped on FOX News just in time to see the second tower collapse live. All I knew was that a couple of Boeing 767s had crashed into the towers. At the time, my dad was a 767 captain for Delta who was on a trip to Buenos Aires. I worried that it might have been him because I thought he was on his way back to Atlanta and thought that maybe his flight could have made New York by 8:46 that morning. I used my phone card to get ahold of him in his hotel (turns out he wasn't supposed to leave Buenos Aires yet); the best $25 one minute phone call I ever made. Anyway, I felt like complete crap for at least two weeks.
To remember.....right now I'm watching CNN's Pipeline coverage of the real- time 9/11 coverage as it happened. It just started about five minutes ago at 8:30 EDT. They're talking about the "Eye of the Storm" and what it would be like to have massive hurricane evacuations with Max Mayfield. They're also advertising a CNN Presents special "Hurricane: When the Big One Hits". I never saw that one, because obviously there were other things to talk about that weekend. At 8:37, I'm watching the last 9 minutes of America's innocence before the world changed forever. I'm not sure what else I'll do today; I'm sure I'm not going to watch this all day. I'll probably make a contribution to a charitable organization.
[Edited 2006-09-11 15:11:13]
Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
IAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3263 times:
Five years ago I was sitting in an office in the facility when someone ran in saying "an airplane just hit 1 of the World Trade Center Towers"! We all thought wow, how could that happen and wandered off to a TV to see what was going on, just in time to witness the second airplane hit them. From that point on it was a total blur for me for about 24 hours.
Some of my closest friends are CO employees, I was instantly put into the "was this one of their planes" I mean it was NY and EWR is right across the river....so I got onto the phone and started dialing, thankfully I could account for all of them. Then the calls from friends not in the industry wanting to know what was going on.
After the airspace over the US was cleared of traffic it became a question of co-workers "what do we do now". Watching the military flights into and out of the area, news coverage of the events unfolding and then heading home later that afternoon totally numb.
The next day upon arriving at the airport, we had security guards, we had searches of person, vehicle and more.....it was a new media circus around the terminal buildings but what stuck with me was the complete lack of noise at an airport. I have been around airplanes/airports since I was old enough to remember and had never heard it so silent......it was very very somber silence, a quiet I never want to hear again around airports.
Quoting Xjramper (Thread starter): What I would like to do is hear comments, thoughts, what you were doing that morning/afternoon/evening, just to remember those fallen. For those who want to bash this thread or the US in general, please do it in non-aviation. I kinda want to make this a memorial thread for this year, being the 5 year anniversary.
Thank you for your post.......I have taken a moment to remember those who lost their lives, the families of those, the rescue workers that have had their lives impacted beyond what any of us will know unless you've been closely involved in the horrible events of that day 5 years ago.....Amen
Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
Swissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1749 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3222 times:
Quoting Xjramper (Thread starter): There are various non-committial threads about September 11. Mods do what you want with this thread, but I believe that this day should stay on the front page of this civil aviation portion of this website.
Agree with you 100% as it changed our lives 100% it should stay here......
I was stuck between 2 Canadian airports running between the tv in the terminals and back to my assigned AA flights on of them was from FRA and it was 80% full with German tourist which some of them did not even speak English.. so I was busy to translate and make sure ac was ok as non of the pax could de board the plains for quite a while.
The crews were awesome and yes there were F/A's which had tears in their eyes once they were told that 2 AA AC's crashed.......... who blames them as they lost friends an colleges and it brought us closer together in a way.....
It changed my life forever and it took me a long time to recover from that day.
Coal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2192 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3213 times:
I was walking from my AP Calc to my Chemistry class and heard that either a helicopter or a Cessna had crashed into the Pentagon. Then I heard that two Cessnas had crashed into the Twin Towers. I just couldn't believe it. I thought that one could've been an accident, but it was statistically impossible for two planes to hit. Finally when I got to my Economics class around 10:30am the news was on and I learned the truth. We got sent home after that. I used to drive home on I-95 on the northern side of FLL. There were cars reversing on I-95 because the road close to the airport and to Port Everglades had been closed. Very confusing, and quite a sad day indeed.
It still gives me chills to think about this date.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8156 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2991 times:
In fact, I first learned about the 9/11 attacks when I logged on this very forum at 5:55 am PDT that fateful morning. I immediately knew something big was going on, and turned on the TV to the Fox News Channel just in time to watch the first replay of the second WTC tower impact. Needless to say, I was glued to the TV set until nearly midnight....
Jcf5002 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2978 times:
I'll throw in my two-cents. I, like the thread starter, was in High School when the event took place. I was in 10th grade Algebra 2, and we were getting ready to switch classes when the principal came over the PA and told us what happened. At the time, I didn't know what to think. On the one hand I was shocked and couldn't believe my fellow classmates could still joke around and not care about what was unfolding. On the other hand, I thought it was a test for crisis management and that it was too great of a senario to be real. That theory vanished when I got to my next class and my firends started to tell me what they saw. I left and went to the library where they had it on and I started reading about it on the internet.
The next day, I remember sitting at home, after school, in the backyard, and looking up. I live very close to Washington DC, and we typically have a lot of air traffic at all flight-levels going over our house. There was nothing: No billowing white contrails; no gentle rumble of a 737 at altitude; no buzz of a Cessna 172. The silence was deafening. And due to our proximity to DC, the silence would be shattered by the scream of a fighter: F/A-18s, F-15s, F-16s. On the Friday after, I was home sick, when the house started to rumble. I was watching the heaps of the remains of the towers still smolder on TV, but jumped up and went to the window. I first saw the 3 VH-3s of HMX-1, the Presidential helicopters, followed by two CH-47s and 2 AH-1Ws. And then a different noise approached. 2 F-16s, in combat spread formation roared over my house at about 700-1000' AGL: They were fully armed. That was the first time I was truly scared to see a "friendly" warplane over my head. It was the realization that this was real, and the fear of the unknown that gripped me.
I've always wanted to be a fighter pilot, I still do, hence why I am in college now, but the events of 9/11 threw me into reality that I will go to war, and that I will be asked to kill people, because people are trying to kill me.
Since that day, five years ago, I've tried to live my life as I did before the tragedy, I've grown up, but I will not let those individuals win by scaring me from living my life.
Right now, as Americans, and as people, we stand together, and we will never forget.
Its always a sunny day above the clouds || CSEL, CMEL, CFI, CFII, MEI
DAYflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2935 times:
A horrible day here in the US.
My boss lost a relative in the South tower. I was at work when the attack struck. Needless to say, we were all glued to the TV for the remainder of the day and went home without getting much work done.
Hell of a thing to happen on the day after my 40th birthday.
Vegasflyboy From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2861 times:
I was stationed at Nellis AFB in Las Vegas at the time. I had just dropped my girlfriend at the time off at home, and was heading back on base. The traffic out the side gate was backed up pretty far. I figured maybe it was an exercise, as the security forces people liked to do those from time to time. So I went around to the front gate, and it was backed up, too. So I sat there, and sat there, and sat there some more. After about 30 minutes of not moving I was about to get out of my vehicle and ask what was going on when I heard radio news from a passing jeep. I turned on the radio and sat there in stunned silence as the news came through that a plane had hit the WTC, then a few minutes later they reported that a second plane had hit as well. When I made it on base, after almost 2 hours parked in traffic, I rushed home to turn on the The second was the numerous 'thank you's' I was getting from random people, in the store, at the gas pump, everywhere. I had never seen so many people go out of their way to thank me for my service to my country. I am no hero, I wouldnews. I got a call a little while later saying be prepared to work some long hours as we're going to be on alert. I was scared and sad, but ready to get deployed to kick some ass, as we all were right after that. The thing that stood out most to me in the days following the attacks was the quiet. In Vegas the skies are always busy with Nellis, McCarran and North Las Vegas Airport being only a few miles apart. But the skies were quiet, with only the occasional military plane coming or going. I will never forget that quiet.
Mikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 53
Reply 20, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2754 times:
When/just before the first tower was hit I was on the A-train (subway) just entering Manhattan (Bway-Nassau stop). When I got off a few stops later and proceeded top side it was a mess. Towers on flame, people crying in the streets and rescue vehicles speeding every which way. Seeing the towers fall in person is something I'll never forget. After several hours, had to leave the city by walking over the Manhattan Bridge. I was also booked on an American JFK-LAX flight the very next morning for quick spotting trip out west, which of course never happened.
Cancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2655 times:
i was in school in AZ on that morning, as usual asleep due to the time difference. my mother called me early, was probably aroun 0530 or 0600 when the phone rang. she had some problems with the computer and i managed to help her through that. as soon as i hung up the phone rang again, my mother again saying some plane had struck one of the towers. knowing nothing of the wx here i assumed it was some little airplane that got lost in fog and flew into the tower. i went back to sleep.
one of the guys living with me in the dorm was in ARMY ROTC and has PT that morning. they cancelled that and he came running into the dorms to wake us all up. he literally dragged me out of the bed and into the lounge turning on the tv in the process. i sat down on the table and couldn't believe what i was watching. i also thought it was a movie. as i was sitting there my cell was ringing off th ehook, it was FDNY. they were calling all medics, techs and firefighters who weren't on shift to be there asap. i realized i forgot to tell dispatchers i was going away to school and when they called again i told them i was in AZ with no way of getting there soon. my gf then called, saying she got the same message and was scared out of her mind. she didn't know what was going on till i told her to turn on the tv.
that day was probably the worst in my life. i couldn't get through to the freinds i had that were going to polytechnic near there. i couldn't get through to my brother or sister, or my parents. i talked to my gf once that morning and didn't talk to her until two days later when she asked me to marry her. i couldn't get in touch with any of my freinds at FDNY... that was the worst part, not knowing where they were or if they had survived the collapse. my dean had come by, and just like everyone else in the damn school just wanted to "talk." i ended up slamming the door in his face and just sitting in the lounge watching tv. classes were optional that day, and a few hours later i, like all the other flight students, got a visit from the FBI.
i never really appreciated the size of what happenned until i got home. i couldn't get a flight until january of 2002 when i came home for winter leave. i flew through DEN on F9, and since the crew was from my school they had invited me up to jumpseat home with them. it was only a 733, but we did the river visual approach into LGA. seeing the pit from the air didn't prepare me for th enext day when i went down there and stood in the middle. that was the first time since it happenned that i was so overwhelmed with emotion that i just had to sit down right there and cried. one volunteer came by and asked me of i was ok. she saw my work shirt and asked me where i was stationed. i pointed to the south side of the plaza to there the single engine company was (i forgot thier number) and realized finally that if i hadn't been in school that i wouldn't be here today. i spent the rest of my leave down ther ein the pit every day just digging, and to this day i have yet to wash one of the shirts i wore there.
now that i sit and watch tv and listen to everyone bitching and moaning over what is going to happen to the site it just angers me more. there is only one way to honor those that died that day, and in my mind that is to rebuild the towers the way they were. we don't need a "freedom tower" in this country, who the fuck came up with that name anyway? and so today, on the 5th aniversary of that day i proudly wear my own work shirt and say that I WILL NEVER FORGET!!
"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
DefAeroSales From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2490 times:
My wife is an ATC at Boston TRACON (now Boston Combined Tracon) and remembers AA 11 departing Boston that morning. Although she wasn't working departure at the time, she remembers the American flight was stopped at 3000 (instead of the normal 5000 after departure) as there was a VFR flight above.
I remember that when I had called her about 8:45 that morning, she told me that an American flight had been reported by the center as a hijack, and that she and the other controllers had just heard that an airplane might had hit the WTC. They were all wondering whether it was the same plane.
When I talked to her I was in front of a computer at my workplace and immediately looked at several web news pages, but at that time none were showing any news of the attack. I told some other engineers on my project and we all went downstairs to a conference room with a large screen television. We were all there watching CNN coverage when the second aircraft hit and remained transfixed until the towers fell.
I remember thinking that ten's of thousands must have been injured or killed and was very surprised at the final casualty count.
AirEMS From United States of America, joined May 2004, 684 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (8 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2475 times:
To tell the truth I had no Idea what was going on untill about 3pm Denver time... I was working the night shift at a Denver area ambulance company. I woke up to my brother calling me telling me what had happened. I turned on the tv and the channel that came up had the
"We have suspended our programming due to todays events"
I quickly turned to a news channel just as they were replaying the second plane hitting the towers... I don't remember how long I sat there with my jaw on the floor but it was quite a while. I walked out side and looked to the sky and with were I live I am usually under a departure route or a arrival pattern for DIA only today there was nothing it was silent.
I had to work that night and it is the only time I have ever been scared to go to work....
May we never see a day like that.. My prayers are with all who lost loved ones friends or family