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So Who Is Running In '08?  
User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2574 times:

There's been talk of many people running for the US prez spot in 2008, is there any word of who will be on the primaries?!?

I haven't seen, and am beginng to wonder..

Chris


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User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Thread starter):
is there any word of who will be on the primaries?!?

Tragically, we'll have to wait until 2036 to see Jonathan Karl on the ballot. Then you'll get to see how great Jonathan Ka....oh, I just wet myself. Be back in 5.

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NIKV69



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User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2567 times:

Since O'bama was elected in IL, I've been thinking Hilliary/O'bama in '08. She has the political connections and the women's vote, he has the perceived political detatchment from Washington - less baggage being a relative newbie in the Senate, the picture of the strong family and the minority vote. If they can maneuver correctly, they would probably pound the Republican candidates in the vote.

As to who the Republican candidate - I keep hearing Giuliani's and McCain's names thrown around. Well, it's necessary sometimes to grab the unknown guy who can give the camera some good face time, too. One of the Republicans pretty boys is John Thune from SD. Unknown, another senator w/o political baggage and good for the cameras, he or someone like him could be the VP candidate. The field is open for the Republicans.

Personally, I'd like to see a 3rd-party candidate with good character come along who could appeal to the minority voters and grab a good chunk of the women's vote. I'd love to see the Republicans shamed into losing the conservative vote while watching the Democrats robbed of the vote of their own constituents.

-R


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2563 times:
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Quoting Airlinelover (Thread starter):
There's been talk of many people running for the US prez spot in 2008, is there any word of who will be on the primaries?!?

My predictions:
Front-runners for the GOP, Former House speaker Newt Gingrich, Mass Gov.Mitt Romney, and Sen. George Allen with Gingrich getting the nod for the nomination
Front-runners for the Dems, Sen. Evan Bayh, Sen. John F Kerry, Sen. John Edwards getting the nomination. Hillary gets toasted in primaries.

Running mates? I think John McCain or Newt for the GOP, and the Dems, Dick Durbin, or Bayh



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User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

Wiki has been keeping a pretty thorough list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Election


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 2):
I've been thinking Hilliary/O'bama in '08.

O'bama should be the front runner. I'd vote for him (sadly, I'll be a year off in 2008, dammit!)



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2553 times:
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Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 2):
Since O'bama was elected in IL, I've been thinking Hilliary/O'bama in '08. She has the political connections and the women's vote, he has the perceived political detatchment from Washington - less baggage being a relative newbie in the Senate, the picture of the strong family and the minority vote. If they can maneuver correctly, they would probably pound the Republican candidates in the vote.

Nope, Hillary won't get the nomination. She'll be raked over the coals during the primaries. Obama has little experience. In the future, maybe, but not in 08

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 2):
As to who the Republican candidate - I keep hearing Giuliani's and McCain's names thrown around. Well, it's necessary sometimes to grab the unknown guy who can give the camera some good face time, too. One of the Republicans pretty boys is John Thune from SD. Unknown, another senator w/o political baggage and good for the cameras, he or someone like him could be the VP candidate. The field is open for the Republicans

McCain is too liberal, he's a polarizing figure and won't win any favours from his antics the last few years. Guiliani would be a choice, but he's pro-choice and that will rule him out. His politics might win in New York, but not on the national stage. Same for Sen Clinton.



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2550 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 3):
Front-runners for the GOP, Former House speaker Newt Gingrich, Mass Gov.Mitt Romney, and Sen. George Allen with Gingrich getting the nod for the nomination
Front-runners for the Dems, Sen. Evan Bayh, Sen. John F Kerry, Sen. John Edwards getting the nomination. Hillary gets toasted in primaries.

What some interesting picks. I doubt Romney can get the nomination because of the Mormon factor which doesn't play well with the far right base; Allen has to win in November and really doesn't have a national base, Gingrich would be a disaster for the Republicans, wouldn't be able to get the middle of the road voters. Personally, I think McCain is too old and with him pandering to the far right he will lose the moderate voters.
On the other side, I agree Hillary is out along with Kerry (he just doesn't get it). Edwards could be a pick that fires up the base, but look for Warner of Virgina.
Just some ideas for discussion.

[Edited 2006-09-17 04:40:29]

User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 3):
Front-runners for the GOP, Former House speaker Newt Gingrich, Mass Gov.Mitt Romney, and Sen. George Allen with Gingrich getting the nod for the nomination

Three republican losers all in a row . . . . want to send the GOP down in FLAMES, here's three possibilities on how to do it.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 3):
Sen. John F Kerry, Sen. John Edwards

Been there, done that, went home . . . they won't do it again. . . . at least Edwards won't . . . he got smacked down pretty good in NC too . . . couldn't even carry his own state . . . not happening.

NOW . . . what I would LIKE to see . . . McCain/Bayh. That won't happen of course - but thats a winning ticket - beyond all the partisan bullshit of course.

Quoting Piercey (Reply 5):

O'bama should be the front runner. I'd vote for him (sadly, I'll be a year off in 2008, dammit!)

I tend to like Obama . . . but he's still wet behind the ears, no military experience, he's still feeling his way around Capitol Hill . . . he needs to wait.

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 6):
McCain is too liberal

Spoken like a true Neo-Con . . .

That, Jetjeck is EXACTLY what the Oval Office needs, whether it be a Republican that is too liberal or a Democrat that is too conservative, the Oval Office NEEDS someone that can sit in the middle rather than the current or past Uber-left or Uber-right that is ripping the country to shreds . . .


User currently offlineDuff44 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1723 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

If either party grows some balls and selects an actual 'moderate' they'll win in a walk.

I think the American people are sick and tired of The Commies (far left Dems) and Fascists (far right Repubs) running the joint.

I'm voting for whoever's the most in the middle.



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User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

Quoting Duff44 (Reply 9):
I'm voting for whoever's the most in the middle.

That's what a lot of people thought they were doing in 2000. Remember "uniter not a divider"? "Compassionate conservative"? Boy did he trick everyone.



Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 4):

Now after seeing that list...

Who I'd vote for

Democrats:
Evan Bayh
Wesley Clark
Russ Feingold
Barack O'bama

Republicans:
Rudy Giuliani
Mick Huckabee
Tom Tancredo
Bill Owens
Mark Sanford

btw, please keep Clinton and Rounds away from the ballot.



Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 8):

NOW . . . what I would LIKE to see . . . McCain/Bayh. That won't happen of course - but thats a winning ticket - beyond all the partisan bullshit of course.

Again, flip it  Wink



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User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2495 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 8):
Spoken like a true Neo-Con . .

Hey, hey, hold up there. I'm only stating the reasons the RNC won't nominate him. Not my opinion of him



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 13):
Hey, hey, hold up there. I'm only stating the reasons the RNC won't nominate him. Not my opinion of him

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Understood . . . .

You're right. The RNC won't get near him . . .

And that's a problem. I think McCain COULD win the big chair, but with the ridiculous partisanship on both sides of the aisles these days he'll have a hell of a time getting the nod.

Neo-Con label retracted  biggrin 


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7405 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2484 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
And that's a problem. I think McCain COULD win the big chair, but with the ridiculous partisanship on both sides of the aisles these days he'll have a hell of a time getting the nod.

Could win, if the all the moons would align. McCain would ultimate weapon, with Guiliani as a running mate. That would be an unstoppable ticket. But it will never happen. A moderate Republican(McCain), with a pro-choice former NY mayor, never in a million decades. The RNC can't get beyond the Moral Majority.



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User currently offlineEI747SYDNEY From Ireland, joined Oct 2005, 701 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2474 times:

Will Obama Run In 2008??

Rob



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User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

Quoting EI747SYDNEY (Reply 16):
Will Obama Run In 2008??

At this point he has not formed an exploratory committee or expressed any desire to run. In fact he has said several times that he will not run in 2008. However I think he may be a candidate for VP yet, despite his relative inexperience.



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7760 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

I still think Gov. Mark Warner is the one to watch. He was an immensely popular and productive Democrat governor in a generally conservative state. And managed to get a lot of stuff done, including tax reform, with an assembly that was odds with each house (younger more conservative house and older more moderate senate). There is no doubt that he will be in the running. If the DNC leadership is smart (that is debateable) they'll be supporting him early on and put the kibash on those senators vying for the White House.


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User currently offlineTexan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4272 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 18):
I still think Gov. Mark Warner is the one to watch.

Yup, him and a couple others are Democrats to watch (Richardson of NM especially). Look for Kathleen Sebeelius, Kansas' Governor, to be at the top of the list of Vice Presidential candidates. Will come up with a better list a little later.

Texan



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User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 2):
a 3rd-party candidate with good character come along who could appeal to the minority voters

Ralph Nader
-
and for the Democratic ticket
Hillary Clinton
Wesley Clark


User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

There is a billboard in the slums of Baltimore touting Hillary in 08'.

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 18):
Gov. Mark Warner

Put him on the national stage and watch his platform change. In order to be electable he will have to make himself more liberal. He raised taxes in VA when he was governer, so it's possible he'll do it again, if he gets in the White House.



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User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

Quoting Airlinelover (Thread starter):
So Who Is Running In '08?

Me - to Canada if the Republicans win again..

 duck 

 wave 


User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 6):
McCain is too liberal, he's a polarizing figure and won't win any favours from his antics the last few years.

McCain has been cozying up to the fundies lately, in a pretty transparent attempt to shore up a weakness with the rest of the Republican party. Although he is on the other side of the aisle, I used to respect McCain as somebody who would never pander and kiss ass to get votes...now, he's just like the rest.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 7):
I doubt Romney can get the nomination because of the Mormon factor which doesn't play well with the far right base;

Not to mention he is a fairly liberal Republican from a very liberal state. His attempts to switch positions on hot button issues like stem cells and abortion are not going to fool anybody. (can you say flip flop boys and girls?) He will get killed in the south.

Same for Gulliani. Primaries are all about playing to the base, and the Republican base does not love Gulliani. He can trot out 9/11 all he wants, but when values voters get a wiff of his positions on social issues, he'll go down in flames.

For the Democrats; I agree with ANCFlyer (it hurt a little bit to type that wink  Wink It is too soon for Obama. If he runs he could end up like Edwards, someone with a bright future well behind him. He's young, he has time, he should wait. I'm interested in Bayh, Richardson, and Warner; and like Texan I have an eye on Sebeelius, as well as Janet Napalotano (Governor of AZ) Of course my hart is with fellow cheesehead Russ Feingold. I would proudly follow that man into hell wearing my "Russ Feingold for President" T-shirt I picked up in Madison a few weeks ago. But I don't think he could get any traction nationally unfortuantely.

Gore and Kerry had their chance and they blew it. If they had the balls that they have now back when they were running, history might be a little different. But they didn't and now they should stick to other projects.

I have no love for Hillary, but with all the money she has raised she may be unstoppable. However she is just another Democrat with no convictions, and we've seen how well those candidates do.



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User currently offlineHalcyon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting Piercey (Reply 11):
Tom Tancredo

This man would get my vote in a second. He actually seems to have a soul left. Quite surprising for a politician.

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 23):
McCain has been cozying up to the fundies lately, in a pretty transparent attempt to shore up a weakness with the rest of the Republican party. Although he is on the other side of the aisle, I used to respect McCain as somebody who would never pander and kiss ass to get votes...now, he's just like the rest

Most true, but he's also getting very uppity as of late, or so it seems to me.  Smile Nah, that's just because I'm in his state now. Oddly enough, I can see him pulling a lot of swing votes from the Dems, and getting a "lot" of votes from younger people, who admire his service.

I would not vote for him due to his more and more frequent swinging values. Too much urge to win instead of standing up for what he believes in.

We need someone with a spine.

~Lucas


25 Post contains images DavestanKSAN : Stop bashing Bush btw Dave
26 Piercey : didn't he announce he isn't running in 2008? ehh, disagree with you on this one. Napolitano (correct spelling) just seems like someone who would put
27 Mir : It's Obama. No apostrophe. He's not Irish. I like him, though I think he took the wrong course to being president. It is a sad state of affairs that
28 Post contains links and images Texan : That legislation was passed by the heavily Republican Virginia House and Senate, not Warner himself. Sorry to burst your bubble. He is also a pro-gun
29 Go3Team : He almost pulled a George Ryan while he was in office. I imagine he didn't have the support considering VA is 2nd or 3rd behind Texas in executions.
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