Slovacek747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1908 times:
I was thinkin about taking a trip up to Singapore for 5 days or so and I was wondering if anyone can tell me if it is worth it and what there is to do. I'm in Perth, Australia right now and figure I won't be on this side of the world again anytime soon since I'm from the USA. Is the airport close to downtown? Hard getting around? Attractions, etc... Thanks for the help.
Brenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1831 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1895 times:
Getting around Singapore is really easy -- there's an excellent public transport system and plenty of taxis. The airport is a fair distance out of the city -- but well connected to the city by public transport. Is it worth going there for five days? That only you can answer -- Singapore is a city-state, so there's not an awful lot of room to add loads of stuff to do. I was there for five days last year (or the year before) and frankly I ran out of things to do after three days.
Things to do in Singapore:
Singapore Zoo (one of the world's leading zoos, and probably the only sight I didn't get to see ...)
Night Safari (very much worth doing -- I'd do it in conjunction with a day at the zoo since they're next to each other)
Food -- great Asian food in Singapore! Roti Pratha is supposed to be a local delicacy
Changi airport is pretty amazing -- but I don't know of any spotting opportunities outside of the airport, someone else can probably provide more info
You can also fairly easily hop on a bus across the border to Malaysia if you're interested ... Johor Baru and other places are close. I haven't done that personally, so I have no idea what's across the border.
Slovacek747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1844 times:
How far away is Malaysia on the bus and is it safe? I've heard the Zoo in Singapore is great along with the Safari and Sentosa Island. Thanks for the info so far and any additional places to take up a couple days would be greatly appreciated.
I don't know how far away it is -- I would say less than an hour.
Malaysia is one of the safer places in the world to visit -- I've been there three times over the past few years, most recently to Borneo a year ago, and have always enjoyed my time there. I've never felt in any danger. Usual precautions apply of course, but I've honestly never had any qualms about visiting Malaysia. (FWIW, I'm caucasian -- frequently assumed to be "American".)
Brenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1831 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1770 times:
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 6): What do you recommend doing in Malaysia? Is Kuala Lampur to far to take on the bus?
If you're only going for five days, I wouldn't take the bus -- the return trip would take the better part of a day. I don't remember how far it is from SIN to KUL, but it's a good few hours. There are half-hourly shuttle flights between the two cities that would make a day-trip feasible. Of course the traffic in KUL might not make it feasible ...
The first time I was in KUL, I ended up hiring a taxi for a day -- it was a reasonable deal, and the driver was very friendly and showed me and a British businessman the city (we each had 10+ hour waits between flights). Unfortunately with the new airport, that's a thing of the past since the only taxis allowed to pick up passengers at the new airport are specially designated airport taxis and I don't think they're available for hire by the hour ... BTW, the new airport is about an hour's drive from the city center.
Petronas Towers are pretty amazing, so is the view from the Telekom Tower in KUL, and I think both are worth visiting.
As for what is available in the JB area near SIN -- I can't answer that, as I said earlier I didn't go into Malaysia when I was in SIN.
There's an awful lot of stuff to do in Malaysia -- Borneo and Penang are two places I can think of off-hand that I think are definitely worth visiting -- the biggest problem would be getting there as Malaysia is a very spread-out country. If you're going to travel by road it will take ages to get anywhere, if you fly it'll be much more convenient, but probably a lot more expensive and you may find you have to overnight somewhere. It all depends on how much money you're willing to spend and how much time you have ...
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1720 times:
Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 8): Sounds like Singapore isn't the place to go and I am on a limited budget since I am a student.
Not some place I would consider on a limited budget. I was there for less than 24 hours this week and almost went through $100SGD in that time.
Singapore is a great place to visit but you could do everything in about 4 to 5 days if you stretched it. I would extend the stay some if possible and see Malaysia as well. As has been said Kuala Lumpur is fine by going by bus will take too long.
Filton From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1687 times:
Just got back from a three week stay in Malaysia & Singapore, travelling on a student budget. Mind you, I was staying with friends which made it a bit cheaper!
I did all the the usual things in Singapore: Sentosa Island, Raffles' Long Bar (watch out for peanut shells), the zoo, safari, food, shopping etc, and highly rate all of it. I really enjoyed the night safari, even though I've always been more into planes than animals!
You might want to pick up a suit while you are in Singapore. In the Chinatown district there are many tailors fighting for your tourist dollars. I got a tailor made, silk lined, cashmere wool suit for about SIN$300. Watches are pretty cheap there too (even the real ones!).
Make sure you flush any public toilets you use, don't eat on any trains and don't spit gum or your liable for a hefty fine or a whipping for more serious offences.
And, just so this qualifies as a post on a civil aviation forum - The airports there also make those in the west (certainly those in the UK) look very second rate.
A few pics:
Local Singaporeans frolic amongst one of the world's largest shipping ports
StarGoldLHR From Heard and McDonald Islands, joined Feb 2004, 1529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1617 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 9): Not some place I would consider on a limited budget. I was there for less than 24 hours this week and almost went through $100SGD in that time.
How tight fisted is this... £30 for a day out.. I wish I could do that in new york ? I dont know of any place in the US I could survive on $50 USD a day.
Singapore is very cheap... Malaysia is even cheaper.
I just got back from SIN yesterday. Ive been there 8 times now on business / personal travel. For Asia SIN is the perfect base.
As for going to KL... if you want to try something different.. take the train, overnight train in super deluxe luxury class with beds, tv and shower is about £25 each way, or in steerage... about £7 each way. Train takes about 5 hours though.
Driving to KL from SIN takes about 3 hours + crossing the causeway at the customs point.
SIN is probably the easiest most vanila friendliest place in Asia. If youve never been to Asia before.. this is the most "western" friendly starting point.
English is the first language here to.
So far in 2008 45 flights and Gold already. JFK, IAD, LGA, SIN, HKG, NRT, AKL, PPT, LAX still to book ! Home Airport LCY
9MMAR From Malaysia, joined Jul 2006, 2110 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1584 times:
I would suggest, dump the idea and go to Malaysia instead. Malaysia is A LOT cheaper, offers more fun, more adventures and has everything (well... almost) that can be found in Singapore. Malaysian girls (or boys depending on your taste) are better looking too. Malaysian foods are definitely tastier than Singaporean, you can get authentic Malay, Chinese, Indian and Western cuisines at very incredibly low prices. (They copy the Roti Phrata from Malaysia's signature Roti Canai).
If you want to look at some animals, go to Zoo Negara haha...
If you want something Sentosa, go to Sunway Lagoon. Plus you can coupled it with Genting Highlands. So there's man made beach and mountain top theme park. All have same features, cable car, roller coasters, surfing at the beach etc. Plus there is a casino in Genting. Singapore has yet to build theirs.
Moving around the cities? Kuala Lumpur has the LRT, our answer to Singapore's MRT.
Shopping? There's Suria KLCC (beneath the shimmering Petronas Towers), Bintang Walk's Malls (Starhill Gallery, Lot 10) and Midvalley Megamall, to name a few, which are grandeur and enormous in size, which make any Ochard Road shopping malls pale in comparison.
And more importantly, all are situated in and within the outskirt of Kuala Lumpur and cost less than MYR 10 (USD 3) for a single one way journey by bus/rail transit. About hotels with the rooftop pool and such, duh... we got lots of it and it's CHEAPER.
If you are looking for a third party reliable source about both places, go to Yahoo Travel and seach for both cities. Click on User's Reviews and you'll be surprised to know how many bad comments received by Singapore (I was surprised too).
A bit aviation related statements so that the post eligible to be posted in the Civil Aviation forum, MH is superior than SQ and everyone is so jealous about KUL that they try to degrade such a masterpiece beautiful airport by all means whatsoever.
Just in case you still want to go to Singapore (despite everything that have been revealed), the bus journey from Singapore to Kuala Lumpur will take approximately 5 hours and cost about MYR 70 (USD 20) for a one way journey. It is on a very comfortable 'C Class' luxury coaches. The buses even have their own FAs (stewardesses/hostesses, to be precise). Flying will take less than an hour but pricier. Only MH and SQ (both are Skytrax's 5 Star Carriers) operate the KUL-SIN route. Very exclusive.
Last but not least, I do love Singapore and it will always have a special place in my heart.
MAS777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 1999, 2939 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1565 times:
English is also widely spoken in Malaysia.
I would take the bus/train up to KL and spend a couple of days there and return perhaps on the other (bus or train) for a couple of days in Singapore. The day train (in either direction) although slow gives a brilliant insight into the Malaysian countryside which the motorway now unfortunately bypasses. If you like you could stop off in Melaka or Malacca which is 2/3 north towards KL.
Malacca used to be the historical hub of Southeast Asia ever since the Portugese arrived in 1511 and set up its (now defunct) port. This was where European, Arab and Chinese traders did their business between the 16th and 18th Centuries, until the British arrived and developed Singapore and Penang as alternative ports.
This was you get to see the 'future' (Singapore), the 'past' (Malacca) and the 'developing competition' of KL which is so evident in many Asian cities today.
As a student I guess shopping is not what you'll be after - although its worth remembering that whilst Singapore has a better selection of goods, KL still has the better prices.
Airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 9279 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1470 times:
Singapore is worth the trip, if nothing else, just to experience it. Singapore in itself is something you have to see it to believe it. Nothing else in the World compares to it. There is enough to keep you busy for 5 days, just don't try to do everything at once. Take it slow. If you do have an extra day or so, rather than go all the way to KL, take a day trip by bus to Malacca (or overnight there), if you're even remotely interested in History. SIN is also worth a looksie. Get a day pass to use the pool and spend a few hours at the airport.
Of course, for me personally, Bangkok is my all time favorite city in Asia. I'd never choose Singapore over Bangkok, but you asked about Singapore
Slovacek747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1145 times:
Thanks for the advice everyone.. keep it coming.. I could probably spend on average a $100 US dollars a day and more if something was worth it. I've gotten some great opinions so far and really appreciate it. I'd like to experience as much as I can since I probably won't be over here again for a while. Tell me if this sounds reasonable...
Start out in Singapore for 2-3 days (Airfare to SIN from PER is cheaper than to other southeast asian countries) and then bus over to Kuala Lampur for another 2-3 days before headin back to SIN to catch my flight. That will allow me to experience some of both worlds... What is the name of the bus that goes from Singapore to Kuala Lampur and back and where to you catch it from? Thanks everyone and keep the comments coming.