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User currently offline9V From China, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

An Austrian strongman has set a new world record after a 1.8 tonne helicopter landed on his back.



Franz Muellner supported the machine for almost a minute after it landed on his shoulders to secure his place in the Guiness Book of World Records.

The record attempt was part of the Vienna Worlds Records Day held in the Austrian capital's Prater park.

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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

It looks like the chopper is on and running. I'm not impressed.  Smile

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offline9V From China, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2331 times:

Here it is!


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Quoting Newark777 (Reply 1):
I'm not impressed

 Yeah sure


User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2306 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 1):
I'm not impressed

Feel free to try it yourself.  Yeah sure



Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Quoting 9V (Reply 2):
Yeah sure



Quoting AC773 (Reply 3):
Feel free to try it yourself. Yeah sure

You guys have never lifted a chopper in your spare time.  eyebrow 

Anyway, if you follow the laws of physics, he didn't do any work holding that up.  Wink

And those ridiculous glasses should negate any record he got.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineBaylorAirBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2913 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

He's effectively lifting the chopper with a lever, so it's not nearly as difficult as it seems. I, too, am unimpressed.

BAB



I'm just skipping stones...
User currently offlineTripleDelta From Croatia, joined Jul 2004, 1123 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2291 times:
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Quoting AC773 (Reply 3):
Feel free to try it yourself.

I think Newark was referring to the fact that even at idle, a spinning rotor still produces lift that, literally, takes some weight off the man's shoulders...



No plane, no gain.
User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 6):
I think Newark was referring to the fact that even at idle, a spinning rotor still produces lift that, literally, takes some weight off the man's shoulders...

I'm well aware of that, but the fact remains that he was still lifting a significant amount of weight.



Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
User currently offline808TWA From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 701 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

I have a hard enough time trying to lift my own "chopper"  Big grin


Love is in the air, so practice safe flying
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

I'm not impressed.

signed
Paul Anderson



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Quoting 808TWA (Reply 8):
I have a hard enough time trying to lift my own "chopper"

 rotfl 

'Tis nice to have some sweet young thang do it for you, isn't it?


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

Quoting AC773 (Reply 7):
I'm well aware of that, but the fact remains that he was still lifting a significant amount of weight.

First of all, as TripleDelta said, the rotors were still spinning. How fast? I don't know.

Secondly, the chopper landed on him, so he didn't actually have to raise it up himself, which would have taken up a lot of energy.

Thirdly, as BAB pointed out, it's a lever device, which greatly reduces the weight of the chopper on his back.

It's still a lot of weight, but probably not much more than what we see on the World Strongest Man competitions. They add the chopper to draw a crowd and it makes for a nice photo in the newspaper.

And finally, those glasses are still ridiculous.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offline9V From China, joined Aug 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 11):
finally, those glasses are still ridiculous

I'll send you some in the post. Big grin


User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

Quoting 9V (Reply 12):
I'll send you some in the post.

I'll start a new fashion craze on campus. And I might just pick up a helicopter or two while I'm at it.  Wink

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Why was the Main Rotor running.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 4):
And those ridiculous glasses should negate any record he got.



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 11):
And finally, those glasses are still ridiculous.



Quoting Newark777 (Reply 13):
I'll start a new fashion craze on campus. And I might just pick up a helicopter or two while I'm at it. Wink

Harry, thanks for the good humor this morning! Maybe you can get a few A.netters as investors, and make a bundle on the glasses..


User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2115 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 14):
Why was the Main Rotor running.

I'm assuming that it was in case he lifted it clear of the support structure and then dropped it. They could snatch the collective up under their armpit and fly away instead of rolling a very expensive helicopter onto the ground.

And it is no doubt true that with the rotor running in the green arc and even with the pitch bottomed, it would lift a little bit of the weight. You might not notice that amount if one ever lands on your toe.

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 4):
Anyway, if you follow the laws of physics, he didn't do any work holding that up.

I first heard this idea from a high school science teacher. Even at the time I thought that he may be technically correct but as a practical matter the statement is utter crap. If the definition of work must include motion then we seriousy need to redefine work when it comes to humans and animals. Preventing motion requires effort just as causing motion does, else your car's brakes would never need replacing.

It is true that metal struts under that helicopter are not doing "work" but they are carrying a load and energy, at least "potential" energy is stored in them during the period the load is applied. For a person holding that load, unless you lock your knees over center you are going to have to exert muscle energy to keeping your knees from buckling. If you do lock your knees over center you run the risk of hyperextending them and (this is too ugly to think about!) bending them the wrong way unless you lock your muscles. Unless you really love chiropractors or pain-killing drugs you are also going to carry the load with the muscles of your torso and not the cartilege between your vertebra.

Holding up the weight of a helicopter (a BARBell?) may not be a good aerobic workout but expect to use a muscle or two.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2112 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 16):
Even at the time I thought that he may be technically correct but as a practical matter the statement is utter crap

I agree, I was just trying to bust 9V.  Wink

He isn't doing any work in the exact physics sense, but he is working in the real world sense of the word.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (7 years 12 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2039 times:

Quoting SlamClick (Reply 16):
I'm assuming that it was in case he lifted it clear of the support structure and then dropped it. They could snatch the collective up under their armpit and fly away instead of rolling a very expensive helicopter onto the ground

Would they have Enough time to react.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
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