BA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 16 Posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5162 times:
So... seeing as there is this program on TV tonight here about it, and with it been a topic that's had a lot of fuss made over it, I thought we could discuss it.
So are you against it or for it?
Personally, I was smacked as a child, and it's never done me any harm. It's a way of issuing discipline, and as long as it isn't bordering on abuse, I don't see a problem with it.
NeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5155 times:
I'm all for it. No question, when I was a kid I got spanked a few times to show that what I had done was wrong. I remembered that pain and humuliation, and never did it again. One or two quick whacks on the arse never killed anyone. Make it hurt and make it quick, it's something that needs to be done right after said action takes place, and there should be an explanation that follows.
Linco22 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1380 posts, RR: 17 Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5155 times:
I think Discipline goes way deeper than smacking kids if they've done something wrong. But I would say its up to the parents wether they smack or not. I was smacked on the very odd occassion. But it hasn't effected me I dont think
LHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 51 Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5151 times:
I think it's necessary and a useful disciplinary tool. But every time I get up to do it, the kid's parents give me one of those looks. Jesus. All I'm trying to do is enjoy my meal.
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SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71 Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5131 times:
Not a good thing but sometimes a completely necessary thing.
Quoting LHMARK (Reply 3): the kid's parents give me one of those looks.
Now why is it that it is the other peoples' kids that so often need a thump?
It used to be interesting (before it got boring) to watch groups in opposition slug it out verbally on television. The most heat, the most venom and anger was not between the NAACP and the KKK or between the ADL/JDL and the Nazis, it was between either animal rights or anti-spanking chowderheads and the rest of humanity. These people get WAY TOO worked up.
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We're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5705 posts, RR: 21 Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5123 times:
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8394 posts, RR: 47 Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5123 times:
It's a bad thing, but sometimes excusable.
If you smack your tired three-year-old because he won't stop screaming while you drag him down Main Street, you make a mistake. The kid is at his limit, and he's got no other means of trying to make you stop driving him.
If you smack your five-year-old because she keeps roller skating indoors after you've told her several times that you need some silence, I can understand - but still, I probably wouldn't do the same.
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Checkraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5117 times:
Good or bad? It's a necessity. You can always spot the children that aren't whipped. They're the ones whose parents wind up calling that nanny TV show.
BA757 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2832 posts, RR: 16 Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 5095 times:
Quoting Nkops (Reply 11): Of course, here if you smack a kid, DYFS might show up at your door!!
That's where things are wrong.
It's the parents choice, if they want to fine, if they don't, well that's their choice - but if they decide to, they shouldn't be prosecuted for it.
Pawsleykat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 1978 posts, RR: 14 Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 5092 times:
Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 6): I think it feels great to smack a kid.
Quoting 9V (Reply 8): Then you really need to see a doctor.
Exactly!
I don't think smacking is an acceptible punishment. I was only smacked once when I was a child and that was for something really bad. There are other ways to iscipline a child, but then again, that is my
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A332 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 5081 times:
It shouldn't be the ONLY method of discipline employed by a parent... if someone has to resort to smacking their kids all of the time, they are not qualified to be a parent, period.
It should only ever be used in extreme circumstances...
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 54 Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 5077 times:
I wasn't spanked as a kid..my parents spanked my older brother once when he was a baby and forever felt really bad about it, and decided that wasn't the route of discipline for them with us...seeing as I didn't really turn out as a troublemaker, my parents did a good job raising me sans spankings...when I become a father, I plan to avoid spanking my kids as well...
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Halcyon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 5068 times:
Spanking can work. It worked on me, but I was only spanked a couple of times. A lot depends on the child, too. Some are disciplined better through a stern talking to (me) while others are "thick-headed" and get the point only with a smack on the bottom. (My brother.) I have a half-brother who was never disciplined as a child, besides being told "no," and he was one of the ones where only the physical would work. His mom would never do that, because she thought that he'd eventually "listen to reason," and that it was not proper to give him a spank once in a while...and now he's in prison.
So:
Ok sometimes, when the kid has violated a rule, and will understand the reason, but it's not necessarily the best idea for some/all kids.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 5049 times:
It worked for me. But it has to be rare. A kid who gets smacked around every week will soon grow callouses, and little will control him then. I got my ass whopped maybe a half-dozen times, maximum, and the message sank in every time.
Halcyon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 5049 times:
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 17): It worked for me. But it has to be rare. A kid who gets smacked around every week will soon grow callouses, and little will control him then. I got my ass whopped maybe a half-dozen times, maximum, and the message sank in every time.
Exactly. It should actually impress the point instead of just becoming another part of everyday life.
Daleaholic From UK - England, joined Oct 2005, 3188 posts, RR: 14 Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 5040 times:
Quoting BA757 (Thread starter): Personally, I was smacked as a child, and it's never done me any harm. It's a way of issuing discipline, and as long as it isn't bordering on abuse, I don't see a problem with it.
Totally agree with you! I was also occasionally smacked and to be honest it worked, I never did stuff that would get me a smack again.
Discipline nowadays isn't what it was, kids get away with murder! Also the laxidaisical attitude of some of our previous generation has led to an increase in 'Chav culture', or as it may be known elsewhere 'Little Fu**ing Sh*ts'
Bring back the cane in school I say
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DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5010 times:
A good swat on the ass can work wonders for keeping a kid in line.
My parents smacked and spanked me as a kid and while sometimes they went a bit too far I think I turned out ok. I was a pretty rotten kid and always sassing them for no apparent reason so I got what I deserved.
We were at the OB yesterday for my wife's ultrasound and some guy in there kept telling his kid "no thank you" when he tried to open the door to the office and go outside. His other kid started screaming at the top of his lungs when he wouldn't let him get off the couch. That went on for a good 15 minutes before we went in the back to meet the doctor.
Had that been me as a kid I would have been told once after going for the door and then either of my parents would have snatched my ass up in a bear trap.
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Thom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 50 Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5000 times:
Quoting BA757 (Thread starter): Personally, I was smacked as a child, and it's never done me any harm. It's a way of issuing discipline, and as long as it isn't bordering on abuse, I don't see a problem with it.
Same here.
Quoting 9V (Reply 8): Quoting We're Nuts (Reply 6):
I think it feels great to smack a kid
Then you really need to see a doctor.
He's nuts, what do you expect...?
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Raffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1651 posts, RR: 4 Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4996 times:
Well, I guess it is different for different people.. but I don't think the use of violence is a necessary form of teaching your child good manners.
Violence is the last thing you want to demonstrate as being an effective tool for getting what you want! Instead, why don't you improve your communication with your child instead of raising your hand to them.
Very worrying. I was smacked rarely by my mother but I was caned at school and it is a particularly bad memory for me and I cannot say it was helped me one bit. If anything, it's made me anti violence.
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25 Kmh1956: I see no problem with an occasional swat on the behind. My sister and I were both occasionally swatted on the tush, and we turned out pretty well. My
26 Raffik: Most kids will turn out great anyway- even without being hit!
27 Bill142: Yes I was smacked as a child, but I was in no way ever abused or mistreated. I learnt the rammafications of misbehaving at a very young age.
28 Cedars747: If i dont smack them now they will smack me later Alex!!!
29 A346Dude: I think it's a bad thing. By doing it, you are essentially teaching a child that violence is an acceptable way to solve a problem. The child learns no
30 Sabena332: Definitely a bad thing, my parents never smacked me but they had a special weapon which was called house-arrest, it was the worst of all for me. It h
31 TedTAce: It's like anything else, moderation is important, and when it comes to kids consistency in message is important too. My Kids know what a "Pow pow" is
32 JAGflyer: No I do not feel it is acceptable. Too many parents will try to physically injure their kids if it is allowed. Allowing spanking is basically allowing
33 Halcyon: Explain to me how you're going to back this up? How does an abusive parent become parallel with a parent who wants to discipline their child without
34 JAGflyer: What I mean is parents will say "oh spanking is legal, I'll spank my kid and because I want it to stick I'll do it hard enough to leave a mark/bruise"
35 Halcyon: I suppose I don't live in Canada, but do you have sick minded people. If parents want to abuse their kids, it won't matter if it's legal or not. The
36 767Lover: I think the thread is about "disaplinary" (sic) spanking, not abuse.
37 Cadet985: When I was about 6, I was with my mother in a restaurant. I was really being bad, and she was getting fed up. She had threatened to hit me. Now, I sa
38 ANCFlyer: Without reading the thread first, and responding only to the question in the thread starter: On the buttocks, and very, very rarely . . . A good paren
39 Greasespot: Totally against....I was not spanked ever growing up and i turned out ok..But at the same time a spanking is not abuse... GS
40 Roger136913: Giving a kid a slap is not a problem unless it goes overboard. Parents have to remember when to draw a line and not slap their child also. Kids today
41 BA757: Thanks for all the responses so far, it is interesting to see what other peoples opinions are. Adam
44 We're Nuts: Chambering a round usually does get the message across quite clear.
45 Skidmarks: Whatever your views on whether to smack or not, it is a fact that the level of discipline in schools and in homes has severly declined in the last 20
46 ORFflyer: Check, check, and double check. Best response in the thread. I had previously selected several comments from the thread, and quoted them all preparin
47 AirPacific747: Depends on the child as well. I was also smacked from time to time when I was a kid, but I don't know whether it has had a good or a bad influence on
48 Daleaholic: You are a tool of the highest order. What a stupid statement! Violence only breeds violence if the parent physically beats the child. A small smack s
49 HAWK21M: Within limits.Only if things get overboard.The Talking should def be Priority. regds MEL
50 Legoguy: It is a good idea, although, like everyone else says, as long as it stays within limits. My mom used to whip out the old wooden spoon and threaten to
51 Ajd1992: No. Being a kid may sway it though. I think it makes the kid think violence is right when solving disputes, which it isn't. Usually, i don't get a sma
52 QR332: Smacking a kid teaches discipline, if the parents are too weak with the kids, i.e. let them get away with anything, it usually ends up with the kid d
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