Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Small Ugly Cars Revisited  
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8269 times:

I spotted these recently right here in city of Orange.

What the hell ARE they?

And both are for sale, although I can't imagine them being street legal.

http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/TinyCar1.JPG
http://x-2000r.angelcities.com/images/TinyCar2.JPG

85 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39884 posts, RR: 74
Reply 1, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8261 times:

Hate to say it Matt but those cars look better than most new cars today.


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26493 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8261 times:

Hey, Steve Urkel had a BMW Isetta. Those were actually rather revolutionary cars for their day.


Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineAC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8256 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 1):
Hate to say it Matt but those cars look better than most new cars today.

 checkmark   checkmark   checkmark 

They're so unique and stylish. You just don't see that much anymore, especially for a measly 6600 bucks.



Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8250 times:

stick a roll cage in them and rally them.

User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8250 times:

Hate to say it Matt but those cars look better than most new cars today.

Afaraid I agree with you. The only current cars I would give any consideration to would be the new Mustangs, the Honda S2000, and maybe the Acura RSX.


BTW, it looks like the local Orange PD is converting to the new Chargers for their cruisers. Didn't look bad.

Meanwhile, I'm rolling out the Cobra on saturday and giving her a thorough wash/wax/detail.


User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8216 times:

The Yellow car is a FIAT 500, one I would think could be great to have! The price tag relfects its age and condition...



User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8203 times:

Quoting Matt D (Reply 5):
. The only current cars I would give any consideration to would be the new Mustangs, the Honda S2000, and maybe the Acura RSX.

You can shorten that list. Acura has put the kibosh on the RSX.



"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12159 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8178 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Quoting Matt D (Thread starter):

I remember the second car from a TV show called 'Heartbeat'

Quoting Matt D (Reply 5):
Afaraid I agree with you. The only current cars I would give any consideration to would be the new Mustangs, the Honda S2000, and maybe the Acura RSX.

I quite like some of the 2006/2007 Chevrolet models.

There is a very ugly Honda vehicle that I saw for sale at a Honda yard in Jackson, MI and I also saw driving around Adrian, MI that made me feel sick.....how could anyone drive such a damn ugly vehicle. Its basically a box


User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8173 times:

Quoting Matt D (Thread starter):
What the hell ARE they?

Like already said before these are a Fiat 500 and a BMW Isetta both are very popular cars in Europe in the 50s.
I believe the last Fiat 500 was build in the 70s or 80s. A real popular as you can see.



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineJJJ From Spain, joined May 2006, 1833 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8166 times:

Quoting Matt D (Thread starter):
And both are for sale, although I can't imagine them being street legal.

Why not? They were both sold in US dealers in the 50/60s.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 12 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 8163 times:

I've driven a Fiat 500 and the thing is pretty damned awful. No synchros on the gears, so you have to double-clutch every shift. Climbing a hill with any traffic behind you will get you run over. Brakes so stiff (no assist) that you really have to stand on them to slow down. The irony of this car is that you have to think like a big-rig truck driver to drive it, in that you have to plan every turn, every braking, and every gear change well in advance. Anyone who thinks that such a car would be quick and nimble (like a Mini) has not driven one.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26493 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8099 times:

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 11):
No synchros on the gears, so you have to double-clutch every shift.

Every down shift

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 11):
I've driven a Fiat 500 and the thing is pretty damned awful.

The Cinquecento wasn't ever meant to be a sports car. It is basically the first generation Smart car and was never meant to be much more than a city driver. The fact that it has a 500cc engine should tip you off to that.



Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineJamie757 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8083 times:

Big version: Width: 480 Height: 278 File size: 29kb


This is ugly!

 vomit 

Rgds.


User currently offlineCURLYHEADBOY From Italy, joined Feb 2005, 940 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8067 times:

Fiat will be selling a revisited 500 starting next year.






If God had wanted men to fly he would have given them more money...
User currently onlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8064 times:

A whole bunch of those cars can be seen at the Lane Motor Museum in Nashville; I had a chance to visit it the last time I was in the area:

http://www.lanemotormuseum.com/

The building that the museum's located used to be a factory for Sunbeam Bread factory.



"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8050 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 12):
Every down shift

A non-synchro trans is double clutched (or floated) on every shift.


User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8022 times:

The one and only....



I give you the AMC Gremlin.



If you don't stand for SOMETHING, you'll fall for ANYTHING.
User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 8000 times:

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 17):
I give you the AMC Gremlin.

I see your Gremlin and I raise you an AMC Pacer.




Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineTriStarEnvy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2265 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7993 times:

Oh!

Then I offer this FoMoCo gem from the 80's....


The (in)elegant Ford EXP



If you don't stand for SOMETHING, you'll fall for ANYTHING.
User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7063 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7989 times:

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 18):
I see your Gremlin and I raise you an AMC Pacer.

In its ugliness it looks good somehow and sice Wayne´s World I just love that car. Party Time, Excellent....



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 7981 times:

Quoting TriStarEnvy (Reply 19):
The (in)elegant Ford EXP

Haven't seen one of those in ages.


User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7920 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 8):
There is a very ugly Honda vehicle that I saw for sale at a Honda yard in Jackson, MI and I also saw driving around Adrian, MI that made me feel sick.....how could anyone drive such a damn ugly vehicle. Its basically a box

The Honda Element:




"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7916 times:

By far, the ugliest small car I've ever seen is Citroen Ami 6:



 vomit 

It makes the Citroen 2CV look flat-out cute in comparison.


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8017 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (7 years 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 7913 times:

CURLYHEADBOY,

I actually like the design of the new Fiat 500--it least it doesn't look strangely upright like the Smart ForTwo. Will they revive the Topolino name?

[Edited 2006-09-23 02:52:51]

25 Go3Team : My preference. Eliminates the need for that pesky clutch unless starting/stopping.
26 Post contains links and images DesertJets : Ok, I see your Escort EXP and your Citroen Ami 6, and raise you the car that more or less single handedly killed the British automobile industry. The
27 L-188 : "OTTO!!! There's a Germlin on the side of the bus!!!"-Bart Simpson. How Dare you speak ill of Wayne and Garth's "Merth-mobile"
28 777ER : I like the idea of a glass roof MY EYES, MY EYES, get it out of my sight *runs out of the room screaming*
29 Post contains images Superfly : SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!
30 Post contains images Cfalk : 'Fly, as a committed leftie (or as a leftie who should be committed, either works ) the Fiat 500 should be the kind of car you drive around in. Ditch
31 Mika : I'd love to have one of those old Fiats, always great with some nostalgy. Isn't there a sportier version of the 500 aswell, that is called Abarth? I r
32 Post contains images Superfly : Cfalk: I know a Frenchman two blocks away that showers once a week that has that same car along with a Citroen DS5(?), Renult Le Car, Peugeot 505 wago
33 Post contains images Columba : May I recommend you the classic socialst car: The East German Trabant 601 or the even uglier Wartburg The 2CV and the Fiat 500 are only for lefties t
34 Post contains images Cfalk : Which explains why they gave up on socialism. They saw that their system could not make a descent car, or pretty much anything else. PJ O'Roarke once
35 Post contains images Superfly : Oh man have you set yourself up! Ford & GM are operating under the best corperate friendly government policies since the roaring 1920s and the best t
36 RayChuang : Interestingly enough, the 2CV is not that ugly a car. It was simply built, very reliable for its day, and beloved all over Europe (Citroen only phased
37 Cfalk : Ford and GM are currently paying between 10 and 15 times the social costs vs their foreign competitors, due to their Unions' refusal to move into the
38 David L : Long before my time but the difference was that the accelerator needed to be "blipped" in neutral when changing down. What a carry on.
39 L-188 : Did they make a Lincoln diesel. Of course they used the same engines as the Ford trucks generally. But a 7.3 diesel would habe been a tight fit. Even
40 Post contains images JGPH1A : Beloved for their poultry-housing qualities, rather than for any automotive excellence, I assure you
41 Post contains images David L : "I'm not bald, I'm just too tall for my hair".
42 EmiratesA345 : What you have there is Poland's finest. Its called the "Maluch", which roughly translates to "small one, tiny one"... something to that effect. Mark
43 Superfly : Sadly it was borrowed from the BMW 5-series. Cfalk: Germany has national health-care so there companies are relieved of that obligation.
44 L-188 : Still it does bring up the question, that if the big Lincolns such as the town car used the same plants that Ford trucks use, would installing a 6.5,
45 Post contains images Superfly : It certainly wouldn't be an issue with my genereation Town Car. I can fit a small town under the hood of my car. The 7.3 diesel should fit wothout no
46 DesertJets : Probably not. FWIW the Powerstroke (the Cummins ISB and Duramax too) are basically medium duty truck engines. Too big, too heavy to be suitable in a
47 Aeroflot777 : I'm really confused why you guys say that all those classic cars are ugly. THEY ARE BEAUTIES! Wonderful cars of the past. Nothing close to anything we
48 Columba : Haven´t seen that before but have you noticed the Smart Roadsters in the back of the original post. Did not know that they were imported to the State
49 L-188 : Hell, you could get the old 460 in the Crown Vic for a while.
51 Rolfen : Y'all are making fun of small cars but I'm think some of them are real fun to drive.
52 Post contains images DLKAPA : Aww Yea!
53 MainMAN : I remember Fiat 500s well right into the late 80s. I thought the 'bubble car' was a Messerschmitt, not a BMW. You learn something new every day! You
54 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : This little piece of shit effectively killed off Renault in the USA for generations to come
55 N1120A : You are right. Both Germany and Japan are much more pro-business than the US. The reason? The government takes care of health care and pensions and l
56 Post contains links and images Sv2008 : The amazing thing about that image isn't the Ami but what appears to be an XM convertible in the background! On the first post of the thread, did any
57 N1120A : Ah yes, the Renault 5. Actually, the big thing that hurt Renault in the US was their tie-up with then dying AMC, along with bringing some absolutely
58 DesertJets : Non of the Panther-platform vehicles saw anything bigger than the 351. Not that I am saying you couldn't put one of the Navistar diesels into a Panth
59 Post contains images Columba : Actually that car was pretty popular in Europe and South America. It was the successor of the famous R4 The Messerschmidt looked more like this. I ha
60 Post contains images Airdolomiti : Funny - I remember this car being shown in a previous "ugly cars" thread, and later that day I actually saw one not far from my house. Definitely not
61 Post contains links and images Cfalk : Here's one View Large View MediumPhoto © Charles Falk The Renault 5 was extremely popular in the 70s. It was the standard car in much of europe
62 LOT767-300ER : I hope youre talking about the first Cinquecento not the recent one with a 704cc engine..a POS both of them are.
63 Columba : That is right it was build mainly for the European market and was a very successful car in Africa, South America and Asia it is definitely no POS as
64 Matt D : That pic was taken in the USA? I can assure you that it was, as I took it myself. Addres is 525 Katella Ave, Orange CA. It is located between Glassell
65 N1120A : I mean the original.
66 L-188 : Hey the A-team made one into a tank, so it couldn't be all bad. There would probably have to be some reworking of the engine mounts, but the 351 is a
67 Raffik : My Mum had a Fiat 125 in olive green and a fold back roof. The seats were brown vinyl and you started it by lifting a little lever where the hand bra
68 MainMAN : Not ugly at all, such cute little cars. It's a bloody shame that Fiats were total rust buckets. The engines were fine long after you'd fallen through
69 Cornish : For all those people that knock the original Fiat 500 (recently voted the sexiest car ever by Top Gear magazine), the list of some of the more notable
70 BA787 : I love that little 500, can I get it imported. Its so indy its unbearable!!!!
71 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : The FIAT 500 in the 50ies and into the 60ies was quite dominant in Italy and also well sold in other countries. The car for which there always was a
72 PHLBOS : Actually, there was a rumor circulating back in the late 1980s that the Masachusetts State Police (Turnpike Division) took 5 of their Crown Vic. Poli
73 Post contains images Tom in NO : Yeah, I know the Karmann Ghia was a popular small car, but the friggin' thing was so small, and I had to share the back seat, which was shaped like an
74 Sv2008 : The later versions, the Mk3 was a toally different car, so to cpmpare it to the older ones is a bit unfair. We had several as rentals when I used to
75 Post contains images Superfly : Oooooh that sounds really bad! Please re-phrase that!
76 ME AVN FAN : the Fiat Uno and the Renault 5 were great cars, while the Renault 4 was a bit "d�mod�" . But quite useful. I had a Renault 4 on hire once i
77 Post contains images Tom in NO : ummm.....a level flat padded bench seat, with the back being an identical padded flat bench, mounted at a 90-degree angle. The ultimate in back seat
78 Post contains images Columba : Nevertheless it is a great looking car -maybe the best VW ever -but only good for two people to drive in
79 Doug_Or : To be fair, they made just about everything into a tank/apc/dieselpowered non-lethal battering ram. And you swore at it...
80 ME AVN FAN : great looking of course, and the 2 seats on the back were rather "emergency seats" -- no way to compare with the comfortable seats you could offer pa
81 BA787 : I will buy that as soon aas I can drive lol, what engines are to feature. It would be great if they were small, then I could get low insurance
82 ME AVN FAN : Fiat cars have relatively "small" but powerful engines, so that they HAVE low insurance rates. I hope that you are not too tall, as Fiat produces car
83 BA787 : Im still growing lol I just like these 500;s but I love Fiats style
84 Post contains images Tom in NO : After he got rid of the Karmann Ghia, my dad bought a Fiat 131. Much better for my brother and I to ride in, but a maintenance nightmare. He bought fr
85 ME AVN FAN : well, I was growing until about 18/19 years old, and finally got 172cms, now back to 170 ..................
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
A.net Ugly Cars Contest posted Fri Apr 8 2005 18:54:55 by LHMark
New NFL Referees Cold Weather Uni's...UGLY posted Mon Dec 4 2006 03:02:09 by S12PPL
Jeremy Clarkson - The Good The Bad The Ugly posted Fri Dec 1 2006 19:52:57 by 9V
Small Objects That Represents A Country posted Sat Nov 18 2006 03:42:33 by Cedars747
Cars That Look Like Fighter Jets posted Sun Nov 5 2006 10:36:01 by Shinkai
Arizona Mid Terms Getting Ugly And Your Vote posted Tue Oct 31 2006 01:25:53 by Airbus3801
Why We Don't See These Cars In America? posted Sun Oct 22 2006 23:47:18 by SFOMEX
Cars/Tyres/Offroading posted Wed Oct 11 2006 13:50:26 by AirxLiban
The Ugly Side Of Photography posted Mon Oct 9 2006 21:22:59 by 9V
Train Graffitti Revisited posted Mon Oct 9 2006 01:07:44 by Matt D