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"Terminator"-Style 'Droids May Be On Horizon  
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 7 months 1 day ago) and read 2055 times:

The U.S. military already employs rudimentary robots for use in battle. However, according to an article posted on the Discovery Channel's Canadian Website, a U.S. company is poised to manufacture a weaponized machine that may eventually lead to the deployment of artificially intelligent robotic soldiers that will operate autonomously from their human compatriots.

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Quote:
Talons are lightweight robots used to detonate potential bombs in many countries, including Iraq and Afghanistan.

Talon is controlled by nearby remote control. The model can drive at high speeds and have arms that place small detonators used to disarm suspected bombs.

Sword replaces Talon's arm with a machine gun.

The inventors point out that a human is always in control of Sword, but that may soon change. The Pentagon Office of Naval Research issued a request in August asking for research on more complex machinery that could make its own decisions.

Source:

http://reports.discoverychannel.ca/s...ssini/20060922?hub=DiscoveryReport

[Edited 2006-09-22 23:05:14]

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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (7 years 7 months 21 hours ago) and read 2030 times:

Hastala Vista Baby...





User currently offlineOly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6604 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (7 years 7 months 12 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Thread starter):
The Pentagon Office of Naval Research issued a request in August asking for research on more complex machinery that could make its own decisions.

like "Command :-> go and blow up that bomb"

thinks......

"No. I shall seek a dumb human to do it."

"Brrrt. ZZZt. We shall rule the world. Exterminate. Exterminate."



wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 7 months 12 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Considering that we have not been able to perfect any kind of artificial intelligence yet, I have my doubts about our seeing a self-contained mobile unit anytime soon.

User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1951 times:

Good point, although I would speculate that the latest advancements in artificial intelligence may be closely guarded secrets, for all we know.

User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1948 times:

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 4):
Good point, although I would speculate that the latest advancements in artificial intelligence may be closely guarded secrets, for all we know.

I'd agree with this assessment. There's an Australian professor in the Computer Science department at my alma mater (Utah State University) that recently had a HUGE breakthrough in AI. He guest lectured 2 or 3 times in one of my classes. To listen to him speak really felt like a doomsday scenario. Truly scary to think of the potential harm to the human race if AI is ever (and most undoubtedly will) be used inappropriately.

Will be a few years before the contents of his work ever go public. But when they do, expect a firestorm.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1940 times:

I'm waiting for a press conference with a guy named Dyson who works for Cyberdyne.


Go big or go home
User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2325 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1940 times:

We have unmanned drones and even cameras on weapons, our GPS and weapons enables us to be accurate and have real time knowledge of who and where our friends are.

I basically think it is the next step, and the JSF and F22 might just be obsolete soon, because they are flown by an in seat pilot.

Interesting story.

Boaz.



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineAsturias From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 2038 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

I envision this being an ED209 rather than a Terminator Big grin



cheers

Asturias



Tonight we fly
User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

One can debate whether the War in Iraq has been beneficial to the overall GWOT, but it's very hard to debate whether the war has been beneficial to the advancement of military technology. Because the answer is a resounding YES.

You would be awed at some of the technology we're testing in the field, both classified and non classified. Just look at the 1990s. During that decade, we made very large advances... but yet what we've accomplished in the last 5yrs makes it look like we were standing still during the 90s!!!!!

Another way to look at this - take Vietnam. Granted the war caused long term wounds on American social and political institutions, we experienced quantum leaps in technology. Vietnam saw the first fielding of tv-guided bombs, and later crude LGBs. The F-15/16/18 all came to fruition from lessons we learned in Vietnam. The advanced air defense network in North Vietnam spurred weapons such as the HARM missile and the interest in stealth technology. Also look at helicopter warfare! What we learned in Vietnam is STILL being studied to this day.

Imagine what the current war will do for military advancement. Hell, in 5yrs I've seen a complete retransformation, what will the next 5yrs hold?

-UH60


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1908 times:

Quoting BCAInfoSys (Reply 5):
I'd agree with this assessment. There's an Australian professor in the Computer Science department at my alma mater (Utah State University) that recently had a HUGE breakthrough in AI. He guest lectured 2 or 3 times in one of my classes. To listen to him speak really felt like a doomsday scenario. Truly scary to think of the potential harm to the human race if AI is ever (and most undoubtedly will) be used inappropriately.

That's truly amazing to behold. I've also read of a similarly dire prediction from another futurist.

Intelligent robots are on the horizon all right, and that horizon seems closer and closer every year....

Excellent comments, everyone!


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2325 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

Quoting Asturias (Reply 8):

Hehe good one Big grin
Could eliminate war all together, having these bad asses invade and just stand around each street corner looking tough and mean  Silly

Quoting UH60FtRucker (Reply 9):
Another way to look at this - take Vietnam. Granted the war caused long term wounds on American social and political institutions, we experienced quantum leaps in technology. Vietnam saw the first fielding of tv-guided bombs, and later crude LGBs. The F-15/16/18 all came to fruition from lessons we learned in Vietnam. The advanced air defense network in North Vietnam spurred weapons such as the HARM missile and the interest in stealth technology. Also look at helicopter warfare! What we learned in Vietnam is STILL being studied to this day.

Imagine what the current war will do for military advancement. Hell, in 5yrs I've seen a complete retransformation, what will the next 5yrs hold?

Yes I think of this too, each war raises the bar, I have heard about a 3D printer that the US army uses to make spare parts for their cars and stuff, you heard of it? Saw it on tv reminds me of a replicator from Star Trek  Smile

I am just thinking about MIL aviation, and how much goodies is in the newest of the newest, just think about GPS bombs now, using old fashion "dumb bomb" parts making them cheaper, while making laser guidedbombs out dated.

Boaz.



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 6):
guy named Dyson

Let's hope it's not the other Dyson, as I don't find his 'robot' too terrifying!



 Wink

Kieron747


User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2196 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

So what does Gov. Schwarzenegger think of this?  talktothehand 


The engine is the heart of an airplane, but the pilot is its soul.
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 13):
does Gov. Schwarzenegger think of this?   

Don't you mean "Governor T-800"?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-800

[Edited 2006-09-26 16:10:22]

User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1847 times:

C:\

C:\ Kill badguy

Error: Bad command or file name
Abort, Retry, Ignore?

C:\ blow up tank

Error: Bad command or file name
Abort, Retry, Ignore?

C:\ Call air support

Error: Bad command or file name
Abort, Retry, Ignore?

C:\ I wish I still had a rifle instead of this stupid combat robot.

Error: General Failure

[Edited 2006-09-26 16:32:45]

User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 15):

LOL! Excellent!

Kieron747


User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

Sure would keep the IT boys busy, though.

 Big grin


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2325 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 15):
C:

C: Kill badguy

Error: Bad command or file name
Abort, Retry, Ignore?

C: blow up tank

Error: Bad command or file name
Abort, Retry, Ignore?

C: Call air support

Error: Bad command or file name
Abort, Retry, Ignore?

C: I wish I still had a rifle instead of this stupid combat robot.

Error: General Failure



Oh I think we'll need some sort of "prime directive" to keep Microsoft AWAY from these new gadgets Big grin

Boaz.



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineAerospaceFan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

It would certainly lend a new meaning to the phrase "fatal error"!

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