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Muslim Cabs To Signify Alcohol-Free Cars  
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

As far as I'm concerned, this is BS. I want to fly to MSP with a bottle of Vodka just to take a cab!


MINNEAPOLIS, Sept. 30 (AP) — Hundreds of Muslim cabdrivers at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport may soon be required to put different colored lights atop their vehicles after refusing to take customers they know are carrying alcohol.

The proposal, which would allow airport workers to direct travelers to cabs more efficiently, needs approval from the airport’s taxicab advisory committee, and airport officials hope to have the lights ready by year’s end.

If the proposal is adopted, cabdrivers without the light who refuse a fare will be sent to the back of the line, which often means a three-hour wait.

Some said they would rather wait for another fare than carry a passenger with alcohol. “It is forbidden in Islam to carry alcohol,” said Muhamed Mursal, a cabdriver.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/us/01taxi.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

If you want to refuse things in your own cab, so be it, but then don't complain when this type of thing happens, and you're sent to the back of the line. It's their loss.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

What bull.

What next? Are cab drivers going to have "Pork Sausage-free" cars as well?

Are they going to start asking passengers if they consumed a pork product in the last 24 hours before they board their cab?

Muhammed, the cabbie: "You look like an eater of swine. When did you last consume the unholiest of all animals?"

Passenger: "I had some BBQ 2 days ago."

Muhammed, the cabbie: "Have you had good bowel movements since then?"

Passenger: "Uh, yeah. That spicy stuff goes right through me like draino."

Muhammed, the cabbie: "OK. You pass. But your wife doesn't look like she's taken a dump in a year. She walks."


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

I'll get into a cab with them, drunk. I wont have a bottle with me. The bottle will be in my tummy. I will vomit all over the back seat. I'm of legal age, I have the right to carry (not drink it) in the cab.

From South Park:

"I thought this was America. I didn't know I live in a Communist country."



Go big or go home
User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 3):
I will vomit all over the back seat

Pretty much a normal night then eh?

 Wink

Kieron747


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

Perhaps they should find a job more accommodating to their beliefs.

User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

Quoting Kieron747 (Reply 4):
Pretty much a normal night then eh?

Well I never take cabs home. If I puke its usually behind a dumpster.

Though in all honesty I haven't puked from drinking since January.



Go big or go home
User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

I don't see where under the laws of public accomidation and our separation of religion and state in the USA, that they can have such a car by car rule. I could understand them not accepting riders whom appear to be intoxicated and could make a mess of their cab, and so on. What about street work? I bet 80% of their business after 9 pm involves people whom have been drinking and possibly intoxicated.

User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

In all seriousness this reminds me of those Christian guys who refused to fill birth control prescriptions... You must separate religion and work, otherwise find another job.


Go big or go home
User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3356 times:

That's a load of horse manure.

What ever agency oversees the licensing and regulation of cab companies needs to create a standard for carriage. All cabs need to meet and abide by those standards. Denying carriage based on concerns for operator safety is one thing, denying carriage based on the possession of a legal item is another.


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3356 times:

Do they make random-checks of the luggage ? Or interrogations of the passengers ? Very very strange.

User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 47
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

I guess they could do it if they were private owner-operators, but that's the only way I could see this lasting long.


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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12241 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3340 times:
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Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 10):
Do they make random-checks of the luggage ? Or interrogations of the passengers ? Very very strange.

The Strib had a story on this too. They only refuse if they see taxfree bags, or by admission of the passenger. Personally, I think the light idea is stupid, I say if they refuse a ride, send them to the back of the line, light or no light. What's next? The wheelchair pushers refusing to help a person with a bottle of wine in their hand luggage?



911, where is your emergency?
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3336 times:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 11):
I guess they could do it if they were private owner-operators,

I don't know the laws, as I'm not a lawyer, but I am 100% sure that taxis are licenced by either the state or the local municipality, so they are private companies serving the public under the laws of the land.

If you want to offer "halal" cabs that's one thing, but refusing pax at the airport is just another example of religious fundamentalism gone astray


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12241 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3317 times:
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Looks like an attorney could have some fun with this:

368.01 Powers of certain metropolitan area towns.
Subd. 12. Taxis, haulers, car renters. The town
board may by ordinance license and regulate baggage wagons, dray
drivers, taxicabs, and automobile rental agencies and liveries.
At a minimum, an ordinance to license or regulate taxicabs or
small vehicle passenger service must provide for driver
qualifications, insurance, vehicle safety, and periodic vehicle
inspections.

363A.11 Public accommodations.

Subdivision 1. Full and equal enjoyment of public
accommodations. (a) It is an unfair discriminatory practice:

(1) to deny any person the full and equal enjoyment of the
goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and
accommodations of a place of public accommodation because of
race, color, creed, religion, disability, national origin,
marital status, sexual orientation, or sex, or for a taxicab
company to discriminate in the access to, full utilization of,
or benefit from service because of a person's disability; or [irrelevant information regarding disabilities]
_____________________________________________________________

Now, in my religion, I like to consume alcohol. It would therefore be discriminatory to refuse me service on the basis of this  

Edit: Typo

[Edited 2006-10-02 16:54:38]


911, where is your emergency?
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3309 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 12):
the light idea is stupid, I say if they refuse a ride, send them to the back of the line,

send them out of the airport. I mean if a taxi-driver prohibits smoking or eating or drinking by passengers while enroute, OK, but such notions are simply unacceptable

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 13):
refusing pax at the airport is

if you out of religious creed do NOT want to carry alcohol, you no longer are to drive a taxi or a bus or a tram or a train. The airport should NOT co-operate with this. It simply is wrong.


User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3297 times:

I don't understand this... because I've seen plenty of drunk Muslims in Iraq. (Now before some of you flip out - I am not saying ALL Muslims  Yeah sure)

But yeah, that's right... just because this is a Muslim nation, doesn't mean some good ole' boys aren't kicking back with some ALKY-HALL! Yup, that's something they don't mention in the Fromers Iraq Travel Guide... Iraqi shops sell some devil wine!

And do you know what some of them do after they partake in their drinking activities? They drive their stereotypical 1993 white Toyota pickup home. HA! That's right! They drive DRUNK!!!!! "No UH60, you're wrong, there is no drunk driving in Iraq. It's a Muslim nation." Yeah... and I suppose those Iraqis are swerving all over the road and crashing into things because of poor eye sight.

In fact, I remember this one time about a month ago, we were providing air support for a raid on a compound outside of Bayji. While we were orbiting the area, these two jokers come screaming out of the compound in... you guessed it... a '93 White Toyota Pickup. So they're fleeing the area, thus compelling us to give chase. See, when my passenger tells me, "Oh no my friend!!! We are driving a 93 Toyota sh*tbox, and there is a Black Hawk right behind us! We should stop immediately!" I think I would listen to him. But nah... these guys want to see if they can outrun me. So here they are, blasting across the desert, smoke POURING out from the engine and they're obviously running this truck for all it's worth. And do I give a sh*t? Of course not, because he's got nothing but desert between him and the Syrian boarder. Go ahead my Iraqi buddy, try and out run me.

So now his friend must be saying, "Oh no, my friend!! We running from the Americans, our truck is on fire, there is a Black Hawk outside our door, and we've got nothing but desert in front of us. I think we are... how do you say? ... f*cked?" But they STILL don't give up. Now they start acting erratic and swerving. Because... you know... by swerving in the middle of god damn nowhere, you are some how cause me to lose sight of you!!!

And as we watch this comedy from 50 above, the show comes to an end, as he runs straight into a sand dune and flips the piece of sh*t over! Smoke, dust and pieces go everywhere!

Point of the story... these two fine gentlemen were DRUNK. If only I had caught it all on camera, I could have had the first episode of COPS - IRAQ!

Bad guys: 0
UH60FtRucker: 1

-UH60


User currently offlineN229NW From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 1945 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 2):
"But your wife doesn't look like she's taken a dump in a year. She walks."

 rotfl   rotfl 



It's people like you what cause unrest!
User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12241 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3263 times:
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Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 15):
send them out of the airport. I mean if a taxi-driver prohibits smoking or eating or drinking by passengers while enroute, OK, but such notions are simply unacceptable

Exactly. The no-eating and drinking rule is simply to avoid a mess in the car. If I have a bottle of wine in a bag, that is none of their business. Good thing at MSP is that they DO have to leave the airport, as the staging area is outside the airport  Smile And there are a LOT of taxis there.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 19, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3239 times:
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When I was a student at Central Missouri State University (now University of Central Missouri) there was a cab company (one guy actually) called Rainbow cab. This guy was a quite the southern Baptist and refused to pick anyone up at a bar or to drop anyone at a bar or anywhere that served alcohol. In 1997 a new guy came to town and bought a couple of late model Dodge Dynastys and opened his own weekends only cab company. Within a few months he hired four drivers, six cabs, and 24-7 operation. The other guy went out of business in about six months. With the name rainbow in the title I wonder if that guy ever attracted any gays to his business, because of the rainbow name and If he hated alcohol so much I couldn't imagine what he thought of them.

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 8):
In all seriousness this reminds me of those Christian guys who refused to fill birth control prescriptions... You must separate religion and work, otherwise find another job.

Well put.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
I want to fly to MSP with a bottle of Vodka just to take a cab!

Last October I flew into MSP (NW 757 DTW-MSP) to go to a brewery memorabilia show, called Guzzle & Twirl. Those guys must have hated us!

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 13):
If you want to offer "halal" cabs that's one thing, but refusing pax at the airport is just another example of religious fundamentalism gone astray

It looks like the 18th amendment crowd is still around, but just under a different guise. Looks like its the wets vs the drys.



My mug slaketh over on Falstaff N503
User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3220 times:

I agree with the general consensus on this topic-the whole idea is bullshit!! Now I believe that America should welcome immigrants from all over, and that this nation should be a gathering place of all cultures and beliefs, blah blah kumbayah...but that tolerance has to run both ways. If you are Muslim and you cannot accept that alcohol is legal in this country than may I be so bold as to suggest that this may not be the right country for you.

Seriously, if you can't deal with people who do not share the same beliefs as you then stay home, you'll be happier in the long run.



"You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline." Frank Zappa
User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6837 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3211 times:

Well, there are 2 ways of seeing this... either way it's silly...

1. Sure, they have the right to refuse pax who's got alcohol... and they declared it by having the different coloured lights. BUT, that also means, the pax has the right to refuse entering a cab with that different light due to him carrying alcohol or claiming to do so if the pax would feel uncomfortable being driven by Mr. Ahmed. So it works BOTH ways! Discriminate and be discriminated!

2. SEND THEM TO THE BACK OF THE LINE!

Mandala499



When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
User currently offlineEK156 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2005, 765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3211 times:

I am a Muslim and I think the Cabbies are over doing it!!! I mean they should have no right to ask or even try to figure out what a passenger is carrying. If the passenger tries to drink on board the cab then that's another issue which is within no drinking, smoking or eating rules or whatever....

Someone must have spread a rumour or scared them about something!!! I hate this.... I mean a lot of Muslims work as waiters and they have to serve Alcohol most of the time... and they still do it cause it is part of their job and it is not their.... this is too extreme!!!

If you are worried about being wrong then change jobs... simple... what a passenger is carrying in their bags is none of anyone's business. Your job is to carry the passenger from point A to B... period!!!

Too Extreme!!! Too much


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3199 times:

Quoting Mandala499 (Reply 21):
1. Sure, they have the right to refuse pax who's got alcohol... and they declared it by having the different coloured lights. BUT, that also means, the pax has the right to refuse entering a cab with that different light due to him carrying alcohol or claiming to do so if the pax would feel uncomfortable being driven by Mr. Ahmed. So it works BOTH ways! Discriminate and be discriminated!

2. SEND THEM TO THE BACK OF THE LINE!

So the question comes about, what happens if all of the "wet" cabs are taken and all that are left are the "dry" ones?

Quoting EK156 (Reply 22):
Someone must have spread a rumour or scared them about something!!!

Gee, I wonder "who" could have spread such rumours, and from what pulpit?

Quoting EK156 (Reply 22):
I mean a lot of Muslims work as waiters and they have to serve Alcohol most of the time... and they still do it cause it is part of their job and it is not their.... this is too extreme!!!

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User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6837 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3183 times:

DTWclipper,
Errr... no, better wait for another three hours for the wet ones to return to the airport! I'm sure it'll be more agony for the dry guys and perhaps shake sense into their brains!

EK156,
Perhaps we should start a cab company where on the door it states: "If you are a religious fundamentalist, take the next cab!"...

I wonder how many of our cabs will be blown up or burnt within the first week?

I personally am tired of having cab rides in Europe/Australia where the cabbie is a Muslim and asks "You from Indonesia? You Muslim?" and then starts rabbiting on about religious discrimination, US imperialism, etc, etc etc and then starts pushing me to agree with him... I offended one by saying "if that's your view maybe you should go back to (insert possible list of country of origin of the cabbie)" LOL... though I wouldn't do it on a midnight cab ride!

Mandala499



When losing situational awareness, pray Cumulus Granitus isn't nearby !
25 JCS17 : The Somali (and that's who the vast majority of these Muslim drivers are) cabbies in Minneapolis absolutely suck. I've taken five or six cab rides aro
26 TRVYYZ : I guess they will be running out of colours for lights, for no Jews, no Christians, no Shias, no Sunnis ......where does it end? A cab driver is a cab
27 N1120A : What for? Big deal. They don't want to carry alcohol. They don't get the business. How hard is that to deal with? They are allowed to do that and sti
28 Dtwclipper : Um, apples and oranges here. If anyone wants to take the Sabbath off, that's not a problem. Trust me, there are not a lot of Jewish cab drivers who w
29 N1120A : Say there were. What then? You are right, this is America. Private business runs this place and taxis are a private business. If a restaurant can tel
30 AerospaceFan : How about, "No Colored People"? The truth is, I think, that certain rules apply to public establishments and common carriers that would not apply to
31 KaiGywer : Taxis are licensed by the city in which they operate, and hence cannot discriminate. See my statute quote above.
32 FlyingTexan : A good definition of discriminaton factors is what can or cannot control - for example; their gender, race, and age. One can control entering a taxi
33 ME AVN FAN : It is difficult. I mean, somebody innocently carrying a duty-free shop bag with one bottle of spirits will NOT be accepted, while the one who bought
34 QR332 : While I disagree with this and think it is over the top, I think the cabbies have a right to choose whether they will take a customer or not. At the e
35 ME AVN FAN : not so easy. In many places (in Switzerland and France for instance) you have to take the first in line. HE may refuse, for instance if you do NOT go
36 Aa757first : This would be a tough issue for me. I plan on getting my BBA and BSN when I go off to college. I know I would never participate in an elective abortio
37 AirxLiban : What bullshit to allow them to reject the business to begin with. Either play by the same rules as every other civilised person out there or go and cr
38 ME AVN FAN : Even if, no problem is having a taxi base somewhere around town, but it is NOT their airport, it is NOT their city and it is NOT the business of a ta
39 Aa757first : I agree with the airport being able to refuse them to solict business from the taxi pick-up line. AAndrew
40 Post contains images AA61Hvy : I have a suggestion: The Muslims that have a problem with alcohol can go work in pharmacies, and the Christians that have a problem with birth contro
41 Lewis : Customers can put the booze in hand luggages or other pieces of luggage. What is the cab driver gonna do? Ask the customer to open the bags and check?
42 JCS17 : There are a lot of passengers who come back from the Caribbean or wine country with a case (four or six bottles) of alcohol. Not to mention that peop
43 Jaysit : LOL ! That is too funny!
44 ME AVN FAN : Exactly ! it very often simply is not possible
45 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : I wonder what colors they'll use. Every taxi already has amber and white lights. And Minnesota is fairly restrictive when it comes to vehicle lightin
46 Post contains images AA61Hvy : I bet he wouldn't care about alcohol...(Anyone remember this guy, 1990's MTV)
47 N1120A : It appears the law in Minnesota that KaiGywer applies to Taxi companies, but not the specific medallion holder (unless that person is their own compa
48 Dtwclipper : So why are you debating it then? They are in biz to sell food and drinks, not to provide you with a place to consume your own items, your analogy doe
49 N1120A : Not having a shirt on is a health issue? So, capitalism trumps religion? What if an orthodox Jew goes into a vegetarian restaurant and wants to drink
50 Post contains images KaiGywer : Haha, we have lots of those drivers! No need to correct. You are right Never seen or heard of green in Minnesota, nor can I find any reference to it
51 Post contains links and images Dtwclipper : Sure, some of those guys would make me retch if they came in without a shirt. Is it a Kosher Vegetarian Restaurant? Right, and the ACLU took on the c
52 KaiGywer : Then he can go to a restaurant that specializes in selling Kosher products. The restaurant is not discriminating against him by forcing him to drink
53 N1120A : It is a vegan restaurant. And Mossam Begg? Sure you have a choice. You can use someone else's cab. You can use the Hiawatha Line. You can call a shut
54 Dtwclipper : There is a very large selection of Kosher Vegan wines.. To be honest, I'm not familiar with the case.. Not really, why should I have to wait?
55 KaiGywer : They direct you to the first one in line. I say go ahead with the lights, but if you refuse a passenger off to Post Rd by SuperAmerica you go. Bye by
56 Greaser : All this begs the question as to when someone will sue a cab driver/ restaurant for discrimination....
57 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : You can see one above the light bar on this HCMC ambulance. Wisconsin also uses green lights to identify command post vehicles. Mark
58 Adh214 : The funny thing is that these guys are probably driving cars running on 10% ETHANOL. That is right, they have hooch in their gas tank all day long. No
59 QR332 : As a Muslim, I understand where they are coming from - more strict Muslims don't believe in alcohol even being in their car/home, and while I persona
60 Post contains images KaiGywer : Hmm, interesting. Never seen that before. Thanks for the pic. Good point!
61 Newark777 : Aren't they employees of their respective taxi companies? Harry
62 Post contains images KaiGywer : Make that a definite, rather than probable 239.791 Oxygenated gasoline. Subdivision 1. Minimum ethanol content required. (a) Except as provided in su
63 KaiGywer : As long as this is what happens, so they don't get to sit in front of the line all day long and refuse. Or make two lanes. Alcohol not permitted, wit
64 Post contains images Newark777 : Looks like these Muslims will have to start "driving" rickshaws in order to keep with their beliefs. Harry
65 FSPilot747 : I didn't know muslims can't "carry" alcohol. I thought they just couldn't consume it. As far as I know, they can touch, salivate over, and have sex wi
66 Dtwclipper : So, with that logic, I can discriminate against Hassidic Jews because I believe they look funny? I think however, we ALL agree that this is pretty st
67 QR332 : The 10% ethanol thing doesn't really mean anything as it is only the consumption of alcohol that is forbidden, and having it in your car, house, etc.
68 Newark777 : Then they shouldn't have a problem with their passengers having it. If they have a problem with their passengers having it, they should also have a p
69 Photopilot : So then if I'm a Christian cab driver, I can refuse to carry Abdul because as a Muslim I know he's carrying a copy of the Koran with him. And for me t
70 Dtwclipper : But guys, these are not their cars! They are company cars, so QR is absolutely right, the company needs to set a policy that is in line with US, Stat
71 AA61Hvy : Is that true, pardon my ignorance on this. Muslims must carry the Koran at all times?
72 JCS17 : The funny thing about these cabbies is that they might not allow alcohol in their cab, but they love their khat.
73 Emirates773er : Nope, there is no such hard and fast rule in the Islamic faith.
74 ME AVN FAN : they, just as persons, of course can take such a stance. But then should NOT base their cars at an airport. Maybe in front of a mosque. Most unlikely
75 Post contains images Bohica : I skipped most of the posts so I can offer my . Please forgive me if it has already been mentioned. If they refuse passengers who are carrying alcohol
76 ME AVN FAN : I earlier on already mentioned that they should be banned from the airport area, but that may not be possible for legal reasons. What will be possibl
77 Post contains images Bohica : That's why I had the disclaimer at the beginning of my post.
78 Post contains images MSPGUY : damn people just call me, I won't even charge you a fare!!!! Just the booze. I can be there in 5 minutes!!!!!! If this goes through, I'll declare I al
79 Aa757first : Ruled unconstitutional. As (I think?) I said, a nurse who refused to dispense EBC was fired. She sued as was awarded damages, as that infringed on he
80 ME AVN FAN : Looks as if DutyFreeShop bags are THE defacto criteria. Strange.
81 L410Turbolet : I'm sorry but this is just insane. You go to pharmacy to purchase goods and whatever feelings the staff has about the goods you are about to purchase
82 USFlyer MSP : I work for the MAC as a taxi starter here at MSP. I know it is easy to say that these people should not be taxi drivers at the airport if they don't t
83 ME AVN FAN : first a personal question: what is a "taxi starter" doing ? - and the other question. Is this matter being a real embarassment for the public in Minn
84 PanHAM : simply take the next in line if you don't like the cabbies nose. And if you have to use that cab because there are no other passengers around, don't
85 USFlyer MSP : The taxi starters are the airport employees that oversee taxi loading at the airport. Our responsibilities include answering customer questions re: f
86 ME AVN FAN : thanks for the info ! Sounds like becoming a real problem.
87 KaiGywer : And that is the problem right there. What if the only taxis available at the time a passenger comes, are those who choose to infringe on YOUR right t
88 QR332 : There is a difference between me saying "get out, your Chrisitian" and "get out, you have vodka." Don't twist the situation. No. I agree, like I said
89 Dtwclipper : Again, I doubt very much that the drivers own the cabs. They most likely belong to the livery company. USFlyer MSP can confirm this. I disagree with
90 PanHAM : Even if they own the cab and without knowing Minnesota law, I cannot imagine that they act legally when refusing a passenger carrying alcoholic bever
91 ME AVN FAN : you see, I see an airport as a traffic-centre with a package of services. If an airport due to actions of taxi-drivers, baggage-handlers, check-in-em
92 N1120A : Ripped away from his family having done nothing wrong and still sitting in Guantanemo Why should they have to carry you? No on-demand shuttles? Then
93 USFlyer MSP : Around 35% of the drivers own their own cabs and contract with a service company for dispatch and insurance purposes, the other 65% do lease their ve
94 Dtwclipper : Because sweetie, that's their job! That's not what I read when I googled the name you wrote, but then again, you provided no links.
95 Aa757first : That is strange. But is it a sin for a Jehovah's Witness to provide a blood transfusion? I know they aren't allowed to recieve, but can they give it
96 Post contains images Lehpron : Religious justification without hurting anyone...IMO, they should stick to the foreward as opposed to the latter. However, we they are to stick to th
97 Post contains images Asturias : I'd always declare that I'm carrying alcohol if I were asked by a muslim cab driver. I certainly wouldn't want to give my money to a bigot and a relig
98 L410Turbolet : I'm not sure, but since they are willing to kill their own kids rather than give them transfusion I doubt they would actively participate on such act
99 N1120A : They are private business people, they can do business with whom they choose I have a movie for you to see.
100 KaiGywer : A private business licensed by the state and having to comply with state law.
101 ME AVN FAN : Again, the actual problem of this thread is that the capability of that airport to provide FULL service to its customers is reduced by such a thing.
102 Post contains images Dtwclipper : So why do you keep defending them, just to annoy us Kafir?
103 PanHAM : No, taxi cabs are public transport and can only be operated under licence, the licence clearly says what they have to do and which passengers they ca
104 ME AVN FAN : The airport in the end will have no alternative than to ban these taxi-drivers from the airport-area. They will still be allowed to DROP passengers b
105 F9Animal : I say, and eye for an eye on this. If they want to put lights up and refuse to accomodate someone because of their religion, then I say it is a viola
106 ME AVN FAN : Wrong. Only those refusniks, not Muslims in general.
107 TNNH : perhaps they should find a country more accomodating to their beliefs.
108 Post contains images Newark777 : Are you serious? Harry
109 N1120A : A non-believer I am Yet state law cannot prevent their free exercise of religion, something they are actively doing.
110 PanHAM : That is an interesting point. Free exercise of religion is certainly a contitutional right. It is interesting insofar, as the same group of people de
111 ME AVN FAN : But, as their "free actively done exercise of religion" is in clear contradiction to the interests of the airport, the airport in the longer run has
112 PanHAM : giving you another reason why you are wrong - take Jehova's Witness and their refusal of blood donations. If they deny a life depending blood donatio
113 Pyrex : Thus it would be right to discriminate based on religion - it is a matter you CAN control.
114 Post contains links KaiGywer : And the saga of MSP cab drivers continue MSP Cab Drivers At It Again (by KaiGywer Oct 9 2006 in Non Aviation)
115 Post contains links T1210s : http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_head...888060&siteid=94762-name_page.html
116 JAGflyer : How does me carrying alcohol in Mohammed Abdul Jariri's cab affect Mohammmed Abdul Jariri's relgion. I'm not telling him to ingest it. If they want to
117 AerospaceFan : There is no "most fundamental constitutional right" in that sense. No constitutional right justifies overriding any other. Thus, if it is constitutio
118 USFlyer MSP : Just so you all know, the MAC decided to drop the propsed pilot program w/ the lights due to overwhelmingly negative public reaction. USFlyer MSP
119 KaiGywer : Awesome! I hope they still get sent to the back of the line though. That'll teach them (we can hope, right?)
120 ME AVN FAN : I still expect that the airport company has to get rid of all who act in that way as such simply is against the interests of the airport and unaccept
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